Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?- bhajji-fake

[Guest guest]

Dear rafel and Bhajji

 

rafel

 

I passed this message by oversight as this was a ongoing topic by a few even

sunil nair was replying to this often if such experienced peoples messages have

to be read line by line it will be unfair to them

 

but now will ensure that I approve any message only after reading it fully and

even hold it for a few days If I have no time than rush it. based on some ones

reputation

 

needlessly a senior astrologer Rafel ji was abused by a jealous gutter gang

member and is further trying to fan hatred thru divisive posts to some that I am

after one at a time and will throw others out these lies can be spread any no of

times and shows how desporate they r.

 

example a baseless lie that I had shunted out Pr arjun ji from this group is

unture as we chat daily, nt brother who lives in Hyd visit him and vice versa, I

have refered people asling on Mantra or shastra issues in groups openly on his

name can be searched anytime to say this is true not their falsehood.

 

pt arjun ji has stayed away from groups due to his fears on what happened to him

in VA if he came out opelny on this falsehoods, will be abused again like his

defence of pt r dakshinamurthy ji in fact all of others who did also got stuck

with insults from the gang wven me, i have the courage to say so openly than

others.once in a while u need to defend good ppl with a risk element of getting

huurt urself. belive and support the truth. come what may

 

and next week as the malefic influences on Kataka , simha r more can see a spate

of the gangs dirty games on

the right time for such elements

 

best wishes

 

prashant kumar

 

 

 

 

 

 

this group and VA, j gROUP HAVE BECOME BETTER WITHOUT THE GUTTER GANG

 

most queries are answered here by others and if no one has not responed after a

day or tow only I am reading them the messages today too show a member saying he

has posted 3 times for me to respond I have not

 

All i wated in this and other groups is a peacfeul environment for jyotish and

jytoishis to exchange their views and alllow new comers some free space to gruw

and member also pose topics, threads and charts for reading freely with no

personal agenda

 

the jealous gand has got what i had planned by destroying other groups has

claime d it won the race where no other runners were left, a no contest race

field.

 

which proves why they wanted to destroy other groups

 

and also openly threatned this group thur their fake ID hilla monster.

 

just jyotish will remain center, Bhakki if he posts further like this will never

be allowed

 

RAFEL ji I am sorry for my lapses in concentration to allow such a post, that

has lowered someone of ur experience, which I never expet to happen again don;t

worry what the gang member prashant pandey did to u in VA for weeks won't happen

here this will end here sure in other unmoderated forums these gang members will

go all out to tarnish me and this group

 

jobless people let htem have their best exposed out there.

as they have nothing else to show up

 

when bhajji critised rafel ji why did he not offer a alternate view as he has

NONE.

 

best wishes

 

Prashant kumar

Best wishes

 

 

 

 

 

Harbhajan Singh-Bhajji <harbhajan_bhajji

 

Friday, July 4, 2008 1:51:59 AM

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?

 

 

Rafal,

According to your concept 66.66% persons should be astrologers.

 

Who is teaching you and cascading wrong teaching.

 

What funny comments you make.

 

If we will show you proof of wrong teachings than you start crying and weeping

and say this is of my Guru and take clean-chit and put all your Gurus in

problem.

 

Regs,

Harbhan

Real Indian

 

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Ashok, Namaskar

 

Second bhava shows speech. Astrological skills are seen in Navamsa. Best

of jyotishas must have one of Surya,Guru,Nodes in kona to Navamsa Lagna,

Karakaamsa. Thats the verdict of Parasara and Jaimini. You can analyze

the charts of Jyotishas to check this principle - it works.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

a_jaswani pisze:

>

> Dear Sir

>

> Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good

> predictions? ??

> Kindly specify other requirements also??

>

> Regards

> Ashok

>

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear Pavan ji

> >

> > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for

> predictions .

> >

> > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd

> bhava ,Vaak

> > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in

> 12th

> > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take

> > mantra frm some competent one .

> >

> > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u

> understand

> > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas

> daily

> > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important .

> >

> > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in

> > coming days ,so try now confidently .

> >

> > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected .

> >

> >

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, pavan surpur <surpurpavan@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7

> years

> > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS)

> > > My details are as below

> > > DOB: 24/10/1975

> > > Time:-05.55 AM

> > > Place of birth:- Mumbai

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > pavankumar

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

dear friends

 

as can be seen, my contribution in all astro groups has become as

good as zero as i took a conscious decision to stay away from the

groups since the environment has become bad with lot of hate mails

with choicest vulgar slang words hurled freely.

 

however, since my name is taken again, for the benefit of those who

are not aware of me, let me say a few things.

 

few years ago, myself and other highly learnt astrologers like

rohiniranjanji, vattemkrishnanji and ashutoshji used to answer most

of the queries in this group but we never faced a single hate mail or

abusive slang language mail during those years. however, later on

several hate mails and abusive slang language mails were hurled by

persons for reasons known to themselves. when gbprashantkumarji was

removed from this group, i was most vocal in getting him reinstated.

similarly when bhaskarmaheswariji was banned later, i fought

vociferously with the owner and the then moderator of this group to

get him reinstated. afterwards in vedic astrology group, highly

learnt pandit dakshinamoorthiji was sharing his great knowledge which

shall be like a boon to all members. when he was attacked with slang

mails, i was again highly vocal in supporting pandit

dakshinamoorthiji for which act, i became a target of the abuses and

the attackers strived to paint me bad in various other groups.

 

it is after these unfortunate developments, that i took a conscious

decision to stay away from all groups but sometimes keep posting an

occassional mail and the frequency is like one mail in one one month.

 

it is the advice of my gurus that we shall not waste our vaak

(energy) on useless meaningless for and against hate mails which

serve no purpose and are useless to all.

 

in moderated groups, slang language mails shall never be allowed in

the first place. i am moderator of few spiritual groups and i read

each and every message completely and even check the links before

approving a message.

 

despite poor eyesight, gbprashantkumarji pains himself to read as

many mails as he can and i advise him to delete all slang or hate

mails and even if it get posted by mistake, not respond to them at

all which forcibly gets converted into a thread. when you allow and

respond such mails, it is like engaging the abusive person into an

argument which gets converted into a battle. then you both fight

till finish to win. this entire process wastes both your energies

uselessly for no purpose.

 

since the objective of all astrologers is to contribute only on

astrology with respect to all, hate mails shall never be allowed in

the first place and even if something comes by mistake, you can

always delete that mail and not respond to it. personally i am

against banning any member even if he writes bad mails. by not

approving such mails, the errant members realise and improve

themselves, for i preach and practice that same god exists in all

humans.

 

my request to all members is to think twice before sending any

message whether it is going to be useful to any person or not. if it

is just to prove a point and is not useful either for the subject or

for the querent, it is waste of energy. honestly speaking, this

message is also a waste of energy but is written to clarify on my

absence in groups these days.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear rafel and Bhajji

>

> rafel

>

> I passed this message by oversight as this was a ongoing topic by a

few even sunil nair was replying to this often if such experienced

peoples messages have to be read line by line it will be unfair to

them

>

> but now will ensure that I approve any message only after reading

it fully and even hold it for a few days If I have no time than rush

it. based on some ones reputation

>

> needlessly a senior astrologer Rafel ji was abused by a jealous

gutter gang member and is further trying to fan hatred thru divisive

posts to some that I am after one at a time and will throw others out

these lies can be spread any no of times and shows how desporate they

r.

>

> example a baseless lie that I had shunted out Pr arjun ji from

this group is unture as we chat daily, nt brother who lives in Hyd

visit him and vice versa, I have refered people asling on Mantra or

shastra issues in groups openly on his name can be searched anytime

to say this is true not their falsehood.

>

> pt arjun ji has stayed away from groups due to his fears on what

happened to him in VA if he came out opelny on this falsehoods, will

be abused again like his defence of pt r dakshinamurthy ji in fact

all of others who did also got stuck with insults from the gang wven

me, i have the courage to say so openly than others.once in a while u

need to defend good ppl with a risk element of getting huurt urself.

belive and support the truth. come what may

>

> and next week as the malefic influences on Kataka , simha r more

can see a spate of the gangs dirty games on

> the right time for such elements

>

> best wishes

>

> prashant kumar

this group and VA, j gROUP HAVE BECOME BETTER WITHOUT THE GUTTER

GANG

>

> most queries are answered here by others and if no one has not

responed after a day or tow only I am reading them the messages today

too show a member saying he has posted 3 times for me to respond I

have not

>

> All i wated in this and other groups is a peacfeul environment for

jyotish and jytoishis to exchange their views and alllow new comers

some free space to gruw and member also pose topics, threads and

charts for reading freely with no personal agenda

>

> the jealous gand has got what i had planned by destroying other

groups has claime d it won the race where no other runners were left,

a no contest race field.

>

> which proves why they wanted to destroy other groups

>

> and also openly threatned this group thur their fake ID hilla

monster.

>

> just jyotish will remain center, Bhakki if he posts further like

this will never be allowed

>

> RAFEL ji I am sorry for my lapses in concentration to allow such a

post, that has lowered someone of ur experience, which I never expet

to happen again don;t worry what the gang member prashant pandey did

to u in VA for weeks won't happen here this will end here sure in

other unmoderated forums these gang members will go all out to

tarnish me and this group

>

> jobless people let htem have their best exposed out there.

> as they have nothing else to show up

>

> when bhajji critised rafel ji why did he not offer a alternate view

as he has NONE.

>

> best wishes

>

> Prashant kumar

> Best wishes

>

>

>

>

>

> Harbhajan Singh-Bhajji <harbhajan_bhajji

>

> Friday, July 4, 2008 1:51:59 AM

> Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?

>

>

> Rafal,

> According to your concept 66.66% persons should be astrologers.

>

> Who is teaching you and cascading wrong teaching.

>

> What funny comments you make.

>

> If we will show you proof of wrong teachings than you start crying

and weeping and say this is of my Guru and take clean-chit and put

all your Gurus in problem.

>

> Regs,

> Harbhan

> Real Indian

>

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Ashok, Namaskar

>

> Second bhava shows speech. Astrological skills are seen in Navamsa.

Best

> of jyotishas must have one of Surya,Guru,Nodes in kona to Navamsa

Lagna,

> Karakaamsa. Thats the verdict of Parasara and Jaimini. You can

analyze

> the charts of Jyotishas to check this principle - it works.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

>

> a_jaswani pisze:

> >

> > Dear Sir

> >

> > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good

> > predictions? ??

> > Kindly specify other requirements also??

> >

> > Regards

> > Ashok

> >

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, " sunil nair "

> > <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna

> > >

> > > dear Pavan ji

> > >

> > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for

> > predictions .

> > >

> > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd

> > bhava ,Vaak

> > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in

> > 12th

> > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and

take

> > > mantra frm some competent one .

> > >

> > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u

> > understand

> > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha

poojas

> > daily

> > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important .

> > >

> > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better

in

> > > coming days ,so try now confidently .

> > >

> > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > >

> > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, pavan surpur

<surpurpavan@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir,

> > > >

> > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since

from 7

> > years

> > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS)

> > > > My details are as below

> > > > DOB: 24/10/1975

> > > > Time:-05.55 AM

> > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > pavankumar

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >