Guest guest Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Dear Sir, My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 years & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) My details are as below DOB: 24/10/1975 Time:-05.55 AM Place of birth:- Mumbai Regards pavankumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 You are a practising astrologer and a astrologer from ICAS for last 7 years and yet you are asking the astrolgers here whether you can become famous or not ? Strange man ? This spoils the name of ur institution. The moderator should not have allowed this msg to be approved. Funny world. Balwant. , pavan surpur <surpurpavan wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 years & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > My details are as below > DOB: 24/10/1975 > Time:-05.55 AM > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > Regards > > > pavankumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Dear Balwantji, I can relate to your frustration, believe me :-) But consider this dear sir. This man opened his insecure and uncertain soul publicly to all of us thousands. I am very far away from where ICAS is or has an influence. I realize that it was started by the illustrious B.V. Raman ji, but there was a time when Vikram University was an ICON in India, as was Kashi Hindu Vishwavidhyalaya (AKA BHU) and other institutions and organizations. Please note that I do not say this lightly because I am a postgraduate from Maalviya ji's beautiful university from a time when it was at its best! And while it pains me and others what has become of our alma mater -- we cannot go just by the instituitions. I am sure there will come a time when Oxford or Harward, just like Nalanda and Takshasheela will be icons from past! I hope my message is not coming across as confrontational or controversial for your good self or other many good selves here. I do not even know what is required to become a member of the current ICAS or what its contributions (currently) are. Perhaps the members of this institutions can enlighten us. In the mean time the query from 32 year old Pavankumar from Bombay (Mumbai) remains unaddressed ... ! Rohiniranjan , " balwantsingh64 " <balwantsingh64 wrote: > > > You are a practising astrologer and a astrologer from ICAS > for last 7 years and yet you are asking the astrolgers here > whether you can become famous or not ? Strange man ? > This spoils the name of ur institution. The moderator > should not have allowed this msg to be approved. > Funny world. > Balwant. > > > , pavan surpur > <surpurpavan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 > years & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > My details are as below > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > Time:-05.55 AM > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > Regards > > > > > > pavankumar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Thanks Regards pavankumar --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 6:53 AM Dear Balwantji, I can relate to your frustration, believe me :-) But consider this dear sir. This man opened his insecure and uncertain soul publicly to all of us thousands. I am very far away from where ICAS is or has an influence. I realize that it was started by the illustrious B.V. Raman ji, but there was a time when Vikram University was an ICON in India, as was Kashi Hindu Vishwavidhyalaya (AKA BHU) and other institutions and organizations. Please note that I do not say this lightly because I am a postgraduate from Maalviya ji's beautiful university from a time when it was at its best! And while it pains me and others what has become of our alma mater -- we cannot go just by the instituitions. I am sure there will come a time when Oxford or Harward, just like Nalanda and Takshasheela will be icons from past! I hope my message is not coming across as confrontational or controversial for your good self or other many good selves here. I do not even know what is required to become a member of the current ICAS or what its contributions (currently) are. Perhaps the members of this institutions can enlighten us. In the mean time the query from 32 year old Pavankumar from Bombay (Mumbai) remains unaddressed ... ! Rohiniranjan , " balwantsingh64 " <balwantsingh64@ ...> wrote: > > > You are a practising astrologer and a astrologer from ICAS > for last 7 years and yet you are asking the astrolgers here > whether you can become famous or not ? Strange man ? > This spoils the name of ur institution. The moderator > should not have allowed this msg to be approved. > Funny world. > Balwant. > > > , pavan surpur > <surpurpavan@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 > years & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > My details are as below > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > Time:-05.55 AM > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > Regards > > > > > > pavankumar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear Pavan ji I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for predictions . Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd bhava ,Vaak bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in 12th house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take mantra frm some competent one . pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u understand it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas daily and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in coming days ,so try now confidently . even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . , pavan surpur <surpurpavan wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 years & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > My details are as below > DOB: 24/10/1975 > Time:-05.55 AM > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > Regards > > > pavankumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Dear Sir Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good predictions??? Kindly specify other requirements also?? Regards Ashok , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear Pavan ji > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for predictions . > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd bhava ,Vaak > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in 12th > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > mantra frm some competent one . > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u understand > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas daily > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > , pavan surpur <surpurpavan@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 years > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > My details are as below > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > Time:-05.55 AM > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > Regards > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Ashok, Namaskar Second bhava shows speech. Astrological skills are seen in Navamsa. Best of jyotishas must have one of Surya,Guru,Nodes in kona to Navamsa Lagna, Karakaamsa. Thats the verdict of Parasara and Jaimini. You can analyze the charts of Jyotishas to check this principle - it works. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal a_jaswani pisze: > > Dear Sir > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > predictions? ?? > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > Regards > Ashok > > > <%40>, " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > predictions . > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > bhava ,Vaak > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > 12th > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > understand > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas > daily > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, pavan surpur <surpurpavan@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 > years > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > My details are as below > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear ashok ji if u want to b famous as astrologer the vaak bhava is imp and if u want to b rich tru professions then dasa shud b connectd with dhana yogas . all other aspects with famous astrologers chart s we hav discussed in vedic astrlogy forum and u can refer it in archives ,lack of time i am not interested to reproduce or open a new debate . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani wrote: > > Dear Sir > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > predictions??? > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > Regards > Ashok > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > predictions . > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > bhava ,Vaak > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > 12th > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > understand > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas > daily > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur <surpurpavan@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 > years > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > My details are as below > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Dear Rafal and Sunil Ji Thanks a lot for sharing and spreading your knowledge..... Regards Ashok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear Jaswani ji Thanks and ur welcome with regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , A Jaswani <a_jaswani wrote: > > Dear Rafal and Sunil Ji > Thanks a lot for sharing and spreading your knowledge..... > Regards > Ashok > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Dear Bhaji please do not talk nonsense... kindly note from his mail " Thats the verdict of Parasara and Jaimini " if you have logic or teaching against this you should come up with that. Regards Ashok > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Ashok, If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here is what I would do: a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer are*. b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere and serious question to begin with!! Rohiniranjan * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes an 'astrologer'? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated treating it as a saadhanaa... Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED]. When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or whatever simply vanished! ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN WAIT!! Rohiniranjan , " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani wrote: > > Dear Sir > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > predictions??? > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > Regards > Ashok > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > predictions . > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > bhava ,Vaak > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > 12th > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > understand > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas > daily > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur <surpurpavan@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 > years > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > My details are as below > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Shri Rohinida, It is long time to see your advice and harmonise the essence of Astrology as service first and lattter any thing. The Study of Planets with reference to Individulas and the suggestions made should help the individual to understand the problems of life and means to resolve.Being an absolute faith science some times a tendency is noticed to question veracity of the predictions made and the Astrologers views It is beyond doubts that all planets support human endeavours and give clues to lead a balanced and meaningful life.It depends on what we really want to pursue by study of Astrology So it is beyond doubt that any body can become an Astrologer if intends seriously and understand various issues connected with this study. regards vrkrishnan regards vrkrishnan --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? Sunday, July 6, 2008, 10:03 PM Dear Ashok, If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here is what I would do: a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer are*. b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere and serious question to begin with!! Rohiniranjan * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes an 'astrologer' ? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated treating it as a saadhanaa... Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED] . When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or whatever simply vanished! ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN WAIT!! Rohiniranjan , " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Sir > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > predictions? ?? > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > Regards > Ashok > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > predictions . > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > bhava ,Vaak > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > 12th > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > understand > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas > daily > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur <surpurpavan@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 > years > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > My details are as below > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Krishnanji, Nice to hear your voice after such a long time! You are right and I consider myself the living example of that! I never *needed* to be drawn to astrology or become an astrologer! I wanted to and here I am! Not bragging or thumbing my nose! Just making a POINT, as always and will continue to as long as I live! RR , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Shri Rohinida, > It is long time to see your advice and harmonise the essence of Astrology as service first and lattter any thing. > The Study of Planets with reference to Individulas and the suggestions made should help the individual to understand the problems of life and means to resolve.Being an absolute faith science some times a tendency is noticed to question veracity of the predictions made and the Astrologers views > It is beyond doubts that all planets support human endeavours and give clues to lead a balanced and meaningful life.It depends on what we really want to pursue by study of Astrology > So it is beyond doubt that any body can become an Astrologer if intends seriously and understand various issues connected with this study. > > regards > vrkrishnan > regards > vrkrishnan > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? > > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 10:03 PM Dear Ashok, > > If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here > is what I would do: > > a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after > defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer > are*. > > b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next > examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as > the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. > > The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of > emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere > and serious question to begin with!! > > Rohiniranjan > > * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes > an 'astrologer' ? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it > someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and > has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about > astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated > treating it as a saadhanaa... > > Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the > Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not > necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize > it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their > spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual > through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, > indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all > the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! > That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! > > I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the > greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read > about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed > many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to > bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to > understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED] . > > When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all > this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or > whatever simply vanished! > > ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST > GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET > DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN > WAIT!! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani@ ..> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir > > > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > > predictions? ?? > > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > > > Regards > > Ashok > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > > predictions . > > > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > > bhava ,Vaak > > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > > 12th > > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > > understand > > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha > poojas > > daily > > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur > <surpurpavan@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from > 7 > > years > > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > > My details are as below > > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear RRji here are few charts which is given in Jhora and other sources 1)sri surya narayana rao ( grand father of BV raman ) Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao Natal Chart February 12, 1856 Time: 12:21:00 Time Zone: 5:36:00 (East of GMT) Place: 84 E 00' 00 " , 18 N 00' 00 " Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma) 2) sri BV raman Prof. B. V. Raman Natal Chart August 8, 1912 Time: 19:38:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 35' 00 " , 12 N 59' 00 " Altitude: 0.98 meters Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Mrigasira (Ma) (97.73% left) 3)sri P V S chalapathy rao Sri P.V.S. Chalapathi Rao (astrologer) Natal Chart July 15, 1933 Time: 4:14:39 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 80 E 56' 00 " , 16 N 07' 00 " Challapalle, India Altitude: 0.00 meters 4)sri K N rao Untitled Natal Chart October 12, 1931 Time: 7:46:58 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 81 E 08' 00 " , 16 N 10' 00 " Machilipatnam, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Now i expect others also help with the charts of many gr8 masters and sri RR ji will b helping us . also sri Bhaaji also can come out with his observations ,i am yet to see those charts now as we had a big discussion on this in last yr in another forums . some are very famous ( but not good predicters ) ,some never made money tru astrology ,some made money and fame and even status so here is it regrds sunil nair Om shreem mahalaxmai namah PS-others those who has charts of sri subbha rao ,PS iyyer ,KP krishna moorthi ji etc can post their data also my computer crashed recently and lost lot of datas of many famous astrologer s which i collected over a period of time . , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Ashok, > > If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here > is what I would do: > > a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after > defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer > are*. > > b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next > examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as > the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. > > The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of > emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere > and serious question to begin with!! > > Rohiniranjan > > * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes > an 'astrologer'? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it > someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and > has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about > astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated > treating it as a saadhanaa... > > Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the > Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not > necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize > it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their > spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual > through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, > indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all > the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! > That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! > > I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the > greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read > about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed > many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to > bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to > understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED]. > > When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all > this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or > whatever simply vanished! > > ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST > GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET > DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN > WAIT!! > > Rohiniranjan , " a_jaswani " a_jaswani@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir > > > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > > predictions??? > > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > > > Regards > > Ashok > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > > predictions . > > > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > > bhava ,Vaak > > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > > 12th > > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > > understand > > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha > poojas > > daily > > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur > <surpurpavan@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from > 7 > > years > > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > > My details are as below > > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Shri Rohini ji, This is true as you have put it in right terms.Even late B.V.Raman's wife Smt rajeswari Devi has also worked to such an extent that she enjoys a place of prominence in the field of Astrology.we have many case including several other people who showed grit and determination to serve in the field.For all such personalities God's benevolance and palnetary support eas readily available.Only thing we need to do apost mortem of the horoscopes for our academic interest and fit into our idealogy. regards vrkrishnan --- On Mon, 7/7/08, MKuP <jyotish wrote: MKuP <jyotish Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? Monday, July 7, 2008, 1:23 AM Dear Krishnanji, Nice to hear your voice after such a long time! You are right and I consider myself the living example of that! I never *needed* to be drawn to astrology or become an astrologer! I wanted to and here I am! Not bragging or thumbing my nose! Just making a POINT, as always and will continue to as long as I live! RR , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Shri Rohinida, > It is long time to see your advice and harmonise the essence of Astrology as service first and lattter any thing. > The Study of Planets with reference to Individulas and the suggestions made should help the individual to understand the problems of life and means to resolve.Being an absolute faith science some times a tendency is noticed to question veracity of the predictions made and the Astrologers views > It is beyond doubts that all planets support human endeavours and give clues to lead a balanced and meaningful life.It depends on what we really want to pursue by study of Astrology > So it is beyond doubt that any body can become an Astrologer if intends seriously and understand various issues connected with this study. > > regards > vrkrishnan > regards > vrkrishnan > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? > > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 10:03 PM Dear Ashok, > > If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here > is what I would do: > > a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after > defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer > are*. > > b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next > examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as > the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. > > The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of > emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere > and serious question to begin with!! > > Rohiniranjan > > * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes > an 'astrologer' ? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it > someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and > has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about > astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated > treating it as a saadhanaa... > > Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the > Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not > necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize > it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their > spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual > through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, > indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all > the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! > That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! > > I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the > greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read > about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed > many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to > bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to > understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED] . > > When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all > this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or > whatever simply vanished! > > ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST > GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET > DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN > WAIT!! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani@ ..> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir > > > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > > predictions? ?? > > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > > > Regards > > Ashok > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > > predictions . > > > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > > bhava ,Vaak > > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > > 12th > > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > > understand > > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha > poojas > > daily > > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur > <surpurpavan@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from > 7 > > years > > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > > My details are as below > > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Dear Mr. Nair, If memory serves me rightly, there are research articles on the www.astrodb.com site which have examined the combinations for astrologers and for vedic astrologers and so on. I hope those who are researching this very interesting topic get a chance to study what has already been explored and written. RR , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear RRji > > > > here are few charts which is given in Jhora and other sources > > 1)sri surya narayana rao ( grand father of BV raman ) > > Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao > > Natal Chart > > February 12, 1856 > Time: 12:21:00 > Time Zone: 5:36:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 84 E 00' 00 " , 18 N 00' 00 " > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma) > > > > 2) sri BV raman > > Prof. B. V. Raman > > Natal Chart > > August 8, 1912 > Time: 19:38:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 35' 00 " , 12 N 59' 00 " > Altitude: 0.98 meters > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > Nakshatra: Mrigasira (Ma) (97.73% left) > > 3)sri P V S chalapathy rao > > > Sri P.V.S. Chalapathi Rao (astrologer) > > Natal Chart > > July 15, 1933 > Time: 4:14:39 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 80 E 56' 00 " , 16 N 07' 00 " > Challapalle, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > 4)sri K N rao > > Untitled > > Natal Chart > > October 12, 1931 > Time: 7:46:58 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 81 E 08' 00 " , 16 N 10' 00 " > Machilipatnam, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > Now i expect others also help with the charts of many gr8 masters and > sri RR ji will b helping us . > > > > also sri Bhaaji also can come out with his observations ,i am yet to see > those charts now as we had a big discussion on this in last yr in > another forums . > > > > some are very famous ( but not good predicters ) ,some never made money > tru astrology ,some made money and fame and even status > > > > so here is it > > > > regrds sunil nair > > Om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > PS-others those who has charts of sri subbha rao ,PS iyyer ,KP krishna > moorthi ji etc can post their data also my computer crashed recently and > lost lot of datas of many famous astrologer s which i collected over a > period of time . , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ashok, > > > > If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here > > is what I would do: > > > > a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after > > defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer > > are*. > > > > b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next > > examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as > > the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. > > > > The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of > > emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere > > and serious question to begin with!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes > > an 'astrologer'? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it > > someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and > > has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about > > astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated > > treating it as a saadhanaa... > > > > Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the > > Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not > > necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize > > it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their > > spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual > > through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, > > indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all > > the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! > > That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! > > > > I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the > > greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read > > about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed > > many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to > > bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to > > understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED]. > > > > When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all > > this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or > > whatever simply vanished! > > > > ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST > > GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET > > DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN > > WAIT!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " a_jaswani " a_jaswani@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > > > predictions??? > > > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > > > > > Regards > > > Ashok > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > > > predictions . > > > > > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > > > bhava ,Vaak > > > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > > > 12th > > > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > > > understand > > > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha > > poojas > > > daily > > > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur > > <surpurpavan@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from > > 7 > > > years > > > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > > > My details are as below > > > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear RR ji Atleast i dont hav any doubts abt astrologers combinations which we already discussed in many grps .And i hav my own ways to see it and some are vedic methds and some r nadi based ,so i was not asking u to help me ..( i hav combinations also to not to whom we shud teach astro and any sacred subjucts ,but this days its irrelevent as no one consider it as no more sacred ) they just shout or command u to giv predictions or lessons and even if they come to ask u questions it will b more like a demanding tone than a respectful request ,and as astrologer ,we shud not hav self respect ,and not even a thank note or future feed backs . But in this grp this discussion pop up and its not dying out ,so u also come out with a proposal to see it tru the charts of famous astrologers ,so i was helping u to see it tru charts which u already written .also thought other members if interested may participate atleast by supplying more charts ,as i blv this is a discussion forum too . if u hav some articles post it for others to learn offcource with grp moderaters permission .or u can post links tho i dont blv most of those write up s.As most of those writing r like wat u say abt relocations astrology and other claims .( i agree with u ) even many so called modern writers twists datas to suit their claims and there is no consistant approach and replicable approach avilable . As i thought u may b able to guide those ppl as a senior most person ..other wise I dont blv in simply passing comments or juggling with bombastic words ,my approach is direct and simple or i will strght away say i will not disclose it . hope i am clear abt myself regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . Ps --if next mail is not subjuct based let us stop here and let the grp move on with it usual way . , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Mr. Nair, > > If memory serves me rightly, there are research articles on the > www.astrodb.com site which have examined the combinations for > astrologers and for vedic astrologers and so on. > > I hope those who are researching this very interesting topic get a > chance to study what has already been explored and written. > > RR > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear RRji > > > > > > > > here are few charts which is given in Jhora and other sources > > > > 1)sri surya narayana rao ( grand father of BV raman ) > > > > Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao > > > > Natal Chart > > > > February 12, 1856 > > Time: 12:21:00 > > Time Zone: 5:36:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 84 E 00' 00 " , 18 N 00' 00 " > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma) > > > > > > > > 2) sri BV raman > > > > Prof. B. V. Raman > > > > Natal Chart > > > > August 8, 1912 > > Time: 19:38:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 77 E 35' 00 " , 12 N 59' 00 " > > Altitude: 0.98 meters > > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > > Nakshatra: Mrigasira (Ma) (97.73% left) > > > > 3)sri P V S chalapathy rao > > > > > > Sri P.V.S. Chalapathi Rao (astrologer) > > > > Natal Chart > > > > July 15, 1933 > > Time: 4:14:39 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 80 E 56' 00 " , 16 N 07' 00 " > > Challapalle, India > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > 4)sri K N rao > > > > Untitled > > > > Natal Chart > > > > October 12, 1931 > > Time: 7:46:58 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 81 E 08' 00 " , 16 N 10' 00 " > > Machilipatnam, India > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > Now i expect others also help with the charts of many gr8 > masters and > > sri RR ji will b helping us . > > > > > > > > also sri Bhaaji also can come out with his observations ,i am yet > to see > > those charts now as we had a big discussion on this in last yr in > > another forums . > > > > > > > > some are very famous ( but not good predicters ) ,some never made > money > > tru astrology ,some made money and fame and even status > > > > > > > > so here is it > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > Om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > PS-others those who has charts of sri subbha rao ,PS iyyer ,KP > krishna > > moorthi ji etc can post their data also my computer crashed > recently and > > lost lot of datas of many famous astrologer s which i collected > over a > > period of time . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ashok, > > > > > > If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, > here > > > is what I would do: > > > > > > a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after > > > defining what the parameters for someone being called an > astrologer > > > are*. > > > > > > b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would > next > > > examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as > > > the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. > > > > > > The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot > of > > > emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere > > > and serious question to begin with!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes > > > an 'astrologer'? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it > > > someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades > and > > > has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about > > > astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated > > > treating it as a saadhanaa... > > > > > > Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of > the > > > Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not > > > necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize > > > it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize > their > > > spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual > > > through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, > > > indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all > > > the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! > > > That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! > > > > > > I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the > > > greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read > > > about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even > transformed > > > many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I > go to > > > bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to > > > understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED]. > > > > > > When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that > all > > > this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science > or > > > whatever simply vanished! > > > > > > ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR > PAST > > > GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET > > > DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN > > > WAIT!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " a_jaswani " a_jaswani@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > > > > predictions??? > > > > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Ashok > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > > > > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > > > > predictions . > > > > > > > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > > > > bhava ,Vaak > > > > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and > in > > > > 12th > > > > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and > take > > > > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > > > > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > > > > understand > > > > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha > > > poojas > > > > daily > > > > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > > > > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b > better in > > > > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > > > > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too > busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur > > > <surpurpavan@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since > from > > > 7 > > > > years > > > > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > > > > My details are as below > > > > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 sir, kindly inform the system for becoming ythe memberof Indian council of astrlgical science as Mr. pawan kumar has taken the membership. with regards, Dr. Harsh Vardhan Sharma astrologer --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? Monday, July 7, 2008, 2:03 AM Dear Ashok, If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here is what I would do: a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer are*. b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere and serious question to begin with!! Rohiniranjan * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes an 'astrologer' ? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated treating it as a saadhanaa... Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED] . When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or whatever simply vanished! ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN WAIT!! Rohiniranjan , " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Sir > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > predictions? ?? > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > Regards > Ashok > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > predictions . > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > bhava ,Vaak > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > 12th > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > understand > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas > daily > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur <surpurpavan@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 > years > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > My details are as below > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Dear harry here is the link to ICAS http://icas.org.in/ MAIL THEM FOR A NEAREST CHAPTER LOCATION, U CAN BECOME A LIFE MEMBER THERE this is founded by LATE B V RAMAN ji and others i was amonth the 1st 26 members of it. they do have weekly group research discussions, yearly seminars etc. apart from teaching the various nuances of the subject ina 2 yr diploma course with 3 semisters, each semister is well loaded to make one a good astrologer theoritically by application they will be way ahead of most of us. if they assimilate even 25% of taught material THANKS PRASHANT I use BV Raman's Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Harsh Sharma <isohvsservices wrote: Harsh Sharma <isohvsservices Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? Monday, October 6, 2008, 5:09 PM sir, kindly inform the system for becoming ythe memberof Indian council of astrlgical science as Mr. pawan kumar has taken the membership. with regards, Dr. Harsh Vardhan Sharma astrologer --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? Monday, July 7, 2008, 2:03 AM Dear Ashok, If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here is what I would do: a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer are*. b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*. The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere and serious question to begin with!! Rohiniranjan * This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes an 'astrologer' ? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated treating it as a saadhanaa... Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that, indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual! That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT! I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED] . When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or whatever simply vanished! ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN WAIT!! Rohiniranjan , " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Sir > > Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good > predictions? ?? > Kindly specify other requirements also?? > > Regards > Ashok > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear Pavan ji > > > > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for > predictions . > > > > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd > bhava ,Vaak > > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in > 12th > > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take > > mantra frm some competent one . > > > > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u > understand > > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha poojas > daily > > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important . > > > > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in > > coming days ,so try now confidently . > > > > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pavan surpur <surpurpavan@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from 7 > years > > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS) > > > My details are as below > > > DOB: 24/10/1975 > > > Time:-05.55 AM > > > Place of birth:- Mumbai > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > pavankumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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