How can one avoid debilitated planets in their kids horoscopes? Astro-16/6

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Roshni

 

well most of what classics say have to read in context of current times

 

a neecha guru for example can mean a person will do well in todays world [thab

in good old dharmic times] by unethical ways, earn by any method. Sunil Gavaskar

is one example Makara guru, lagna [in guru dasa gave up cricket but took up

other comercial roles, comentry, ICC job, apart liason for private sector with

Givt contracts.

 

sachin tendulkar too tula lagna has a neecha bhanga though with a exalted kuja

with it

 

but guru dasa must come to see it and its sub periods can show how he has done

in it.

 

Barack Obama will be another case Neecha Guru is close prospect for a US

presidency will at least be a runner up a big achievement for his age.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant kumar

 

 

 

 

raushnee333 <raushnee333

 

Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:08:46 AM

Re: How can one avoid debilitated planets in their kids

horoscopes? " Astro-

 

 

 

Thanks much for your response.

Could you enlighten more on the fact " Neecha guru can be very good "

with some example if possible please.

 

Also Neechabhanga yoga as I gather is quite debatable. I read a book

by James Braha. He follows Vedic Astrology only. Yet I guess scarcity

of experience or citations does not make people believe in Neechbhanga

yogas.

 

I would appreciate if anyone has any examples of both the above

mentioned things.

 

Regards

Raushnee

 

, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Raushnee , Namaskar

>

> Neecha guru can be very good. There is also Navamsa which is more

> important and neecha bhanga yogas so you can say that debilitated

planet

> is bad without seeing whole chart. Even Shastyamsa can change

everything.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal

>

>

>

>

>

> raushnee333 napisa?(a):

> >

> >

> > Although there is no control over destiny and a person is born to live

> > a life based on his/her karmas. One has to surrender to the laws of

> > nature. Yet, I have a curiosity, since human beings always try to

> > better their lives, improve their karmas, negate their ill-karmas. And

> > there is so much happening in science, technology,stem cells,in-vitro,

> > eugenics etc.... Hindu mythology also has examples of females

> > conceiving with choicest of Gods for best of gene pools in the future

> > generations.

> >

> > What does vedic astrology contributes here or can contribute?

> > [Please Pardon both my ignorance and curiosity.]

> >

> > I have observed that mostly Libra-Scorpios (late oct-early Nov) have

> > debilitated Sun. Likewise current time-period till June 22, 2008 is of

> > debilitated Mars. Of course, one can't keep watching all these

> > planets. And again Mahadashas of some planets get skipped altogether

> > in a person's life.

> >

> > Yet, can one avoid debilitated Jupiter and debilitated Saturn? These

> > are quite significant planets in anyone's life and do give their

> > benefic and malefic results in their antar,pratayantar or transits. So

> > can/should one avoid conception such that the delivery does not

> > happen when these planets will be 'neecha'? Like by this year end

> > Jupiter will enter Capricorn and will stay there for a year? So what's

> > the advise for the couples trying to conceive to avoid neecha guru in

> > their kid's chart? Any possibilities?

> >

> > Raushnee

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello all ,

 

Neecha planets are not always bad.. and neecha bhanga yoga is

something that just drives the evil tendencies of the graha away..

 

neecha bhanga yoga is formed when the following conditions are met..

 

Neecha planet is in conjunction with House lord or

Neecha planet is in conjuction with exalted planet

Neecha planet is fully aspected by another neecha planet orn

Neecha planet is aspected by house lord ...

 

in all of these cases , the neecha effects of the graha are removed

and it gives benefic results , sometimes even raja yoga..

 

besides , GOD has a plan for everyone and we should not try to change

it and instead go with the flow ...

 

cheers and best regards,

chandan s.

[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot Prashant for quoting examples.

 

Especially Gavaskar's because for Capricorn ascendant Jupiter is a

functional malefic and I guess he does not have a neechabhanga also

(some people say if Guru is in kendra it gets neechabhanga...otherwise

I have across other rules of neechabhanga). So seemingly his Guru

dasha was fairly good!

 

Interestingly I observed that he has his lagna lord Saturn in 8th

house (Date of Birth: 10/07/1949 Time of Birth; 20/42/00 Place:

Bombay) and Saturn in 8th does give delays and obstacles (as I am

experiencing in my life), but for him it anyways came after having a

successful career. And nevertheless Saturn is favorable for him,

unlike me (Virgo ascendant)

 

Yeah let's see for Obama too, how it goes. So far he appears to be

going to the white house.

 

But I wonder if these celebrities birth details are correct also or

not. Like for Aishwarya Rai also, Jupiter has been stated as

debilitated but her ascendants are said different by different people-

Virgo, Libra or even Capri. Don't know which one is right!!!

 

But I do get your point that neecha guru can be favorable. And while

we do try but can't completely defy nature. Who knows, struggling to

get better could be so hard while surrendering to nature ( falling

freely) could also be surprisingly good!

 

Raushnee

 

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Roshni

>

> well most of what classics say have to read in context of current times

>

> a neecha guru for example can mean a person will do well in todays

world [thab in good old dharmic times] by unethical ways, earn by any

method. Sunil Gavaskar is one example Makara guru, lagna [in guru dasa

gave up cricket but took up other comercial roles, comentry, ICC job,

apart liason for private sector with Givt contracts.

>

> sachin tendulkar too tula lagna has a neecha bhanga though with a

exalted kuja with it

>

> but guru dasa must come to see it and its sub periods can show how

he has done in it.

>

> Barack Obama will be another case Neecha Guru is close prospect for

a US presidency will at least be a runner up a big achievement for his

age.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant kumar

>

>

>

>

> raushnee333 <raushnee333

>

> Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:08:46 AM

> Re: How can one avoid debilitated planets in their

kids horoscopes? " Astro-

>

>

>

> Thanks much for your response.

> Could you enlighten more on the fact " Neecha guru can be very good "

> with some example if possible please.

>

> Also Neechabhanga yoga as I gather is quite debatable. I read a book

> by James Braha. He follows Vedic Astrology only. Yet I guess scarcity

> of experience or citations does not make people believe in Neechbhanga

> yogas.

>

> I would appreciate if anyone has any examples of both the above

> mentioned things.

>

> Regards

> Raushnee

>

> , Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > Dear Raushnee , Namaskar

> >

> > Neecha guru can be very good. There is also Navamsa which is more

> > important and neecha bhanga yogas so you can say that debilitated

> planet

> > is bad without seeing whole chart. Even Shastyamsa can change

> everything.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > raushnee333 napisa?(a):

> > >

> > >

> > > Although there is no control over destiny and a person is born

to live

> > > a life based on his/her karmas. One has to surrender to the laws of

> > > nature. Yet, I have a curiosity, since human beings always try to

> > > better their lives, improve their karmas, negate their

ill-karmas. And

> > > there is so much happening in science, technology,stem

cells,in-vitro,

> > > eugenics etc.... Hindu mythology also has examples of females

> > > conceiving with choicest of Gods for best of gene pools in the

future

> > > generations.

> > >

> > > What does vedic astrology contributes here or can contribute?

> > > [Please Pardon both my ignorance and curiosity.]

> > >

> > > I have observed that mostly Libra-Scorpios (late oct-early Nov) have

> > > debilitated Sun. Likewise current time-period till June 22, 2008

is of

> > > debilitated Mars. Of course, one can't keep watching all these

> > > planets. And again Mahadashas of some planets get skipped altogether

> > > in a person's life.

> > >

> > > Yet, can one avoid debilitated Jupiter and debilitated Saturn? These

> > > are quite significant planets in anyone's life and do give their

> > > benefic and malefic results in their antar,pratayantar or

transits. So

> > > can/should one avoid conception such that the delivery does not

> > > happen when these planets will be 'neecha'? Like by this year end

> > > Jupiter will enter Capricorn and will stay there for a year? So

what's

> > > the advise for the couples trying to conceive to avoid neecha

guru in

> > > their kid's chart? Any possibilities?

> > >

> > > Raushnee

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >