Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 *Om Kleem Kamalathmiakayai Namah* Shri Lalitji, Namaskar! My response was for the Querrist (Nivedita or ak_pen) attitude and sarcasm. I hope you understand that. I'm less qualified than you in all other jyothish matters. Best Regards, Raj Upadhrasta. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Mr. Raj, > > I didnt understand why astrology should not be tested in astrolgy > forums. Why astrologers should escape testing ? > > regards, > Lalit. > > , Raj Upadhrasta > <suryanayaka@> wrote: > > > > * Om Kleem Kamalathmikayai Namah * > > > > Dear Nivedita OR ak_pen@: > > & nbsp; > > & nbsp;ak_pen wrote: > > //Can all the renowned astrologers please predict for this native > > (yes, it is me) the past, present and future life in terms of > > career, character, marriage, children, wealth, health, friends, > > popularity and ambition.// > > > > & nbsp; > > & nbsp; > > It seems that you & nbsp;forgot include category " death type and its > circumstances " in your LONG & nbsp;wish list. > > & nbsp; > > If you want to test astrology- may I suggest this is not the right > place. May be you post a newpaper/tv advt. > > & nbsp; > > Here are & nbsp;lots of people who have grandchildren older than your > age AND can easily beat you in Sarcastic skills. So, Kindly be humble. > > & nbsp; > > I guess you are having lots of fun and good days. But time changes > and it changes everything. I'm sure life is a good teacher and you > will come back to Dharmic way in correct attitude some day or the > other. > > & nbsp; > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Raj Upadhrasta. > > > > --- On Wed, 5/28/08, ak_pen ak_pen@ wrote: > > > > ak_pen ak_pen@ > > Fwd: ***Dear Astrologers*** > > > > Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 6:30 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Astrologers, > > > > I am newcomer to this group. > > > > I see lots of mails which give accurate prediction on all topics. > > > > I really wonder whether it is this much possible. > > > > I believe in astrology.But I want to increase trustworthiness on > > it. > > > > So, can you please predict to the following > > > > Date of Birth : 26-Octo-1987 > > Place of Birth: Ahmedabad,Gujarat > > Time of Birth : 14.20 p.m. > > > > Can all the renowned astrologers please predict for this native > > (yes, it is me) the past, present and future life in terms of > > career, character, marriage, children, wealth, health, friends, > > popularity and ambition. > > > > Thanks a lot for your esteemed effort. > > > > I would be happy if I could get satisfied results.. > > > > Thanks and regards > > Nivedita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Shri Lalit, Mr Raj Upadrashta's annoyance makes sense because here is a person who is simply curious to know about her/his future and decides to take a " smart " way out. she/he knows that if she/he asks for a reading, nobody is going to give it to her/him. so, he/she takes the " Let me see if astrology can guess my future right " route. there is nothing wrong wiht testing astrology. but in my humble opinion, nivedita isnt that curious to test the validity of this science. if the astrologers get teh readings right, is she going to give away her entire life's earning for developing this science or somehting? no, right? and since when did a science like astrology become desperate enough to prove anything to her/him? i'm quoting her " I'd be happy if i get satisfied results " that sure is arrogance, Sirs. -Karthik On 5/29/08, Raj Upadhrasta <suryanayaka wrote: > > *Om Kleem Kamalathmiakayai Namah* > > Shri Lalitji, > Namaskar! > > My response was for the Querrist (Nivedita or ak_pen) attitude and > sarcasm. I hope you understand that. > > I'm less qualified than you in all other jyothish matters. > > Best Regards, > Raj Upadhrasta. > > <%40>, > " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Raj, > > > > I didnt understand why astrology should not be tested in astrolgy > > forums. Why astrologers should escape testing ? > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > <%40>, > Raj Upadhrasta > > <suryanayaka@> wrote: > > > > > > * Om Kleem Kamalathmikayai Namah * > > > > > > Dear Nivedita OR ak_pen@: > > > & nbsp; > > > & nbsp;ak_pen wrote: > > > //Can all the renowned astrologers please predict for this native > > > (yes, it is me) the past, present and future life in terms of > > > career, character, marriage, children, wealth, health, friends, > > > popularity and ambition.// > > > > > > & nbsp; > > > & nbsp; > > > It seems that you & nbsp;forgot include category " death type and > its > > circumstances " in your LONG & nbsp;wish list. > > > & nbsp; > > > If you want to test astrology- may I suggest this is not the > right > > place. May be you post a newpaper/tv advt. > > > & nbsp; > > > Here are & nbsp;lots of people who have grandchildren older than > your > > age AND can easily beat you in Sarcastic skills. So, Kindly be > humble. > > > & nbsp; > > > I guess you are having lots of fun and good days. But time > changes > > and it changes everything. I'm sure life is a good teacher and you > > will come back to Dharmic way in correct attitude some day or the > > other. > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Raj Upadhrasta. > > > > > > --- On Wed, 5/28/08, ak_pen ak_pen@ wrote: > > > > > > ak_pen ak_pen@ > > > Fwd: ***Dear Astrologers*** > > > <%40> > > > Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 6:30 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Astrologers, > > > > > > I am newcomer to this group. > > > > > > I see lots of mails which give accurate prediction on all topics. > > > > > > I really wonder whether it is this much possible. > > > > > > I believe in astrology.But I want to increase trustworthiness on > > > it. > > > > > > So, can you please predict to the following > > > > > > Date of Birth : 26-Octo-1987 > > > Place of Birth: Ahmedabad,Gujarat > > > Time of Birth : 14.20 p.m. > > > > > > Can all the renowned astrologers please predict for this native > > > (yes, it is me) the past, present and future life in terms of > > > career, character, marriage, children, wealth, health, friends, > > > popularity and ambition. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your esteemed effort. > > > > > > I would be happy if I could get satisfied results.. > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > Nivedita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Dear Karthik ji, I agree with you, the method adopted was cleverly disguised to get some readings and then to vanish in thin air. Its the modus operandi of quite a lot of people to get the free readings and then to muse over it. & nbsp; Regards J.s.sandhu --- On Fri, 5/30/08, karthik mahadevan & lt;karthikmahad & gt; wrote: karthik mahadevan & lt;karthikmahad & gt; Re: : ***Dear Astrologers*** Friday, May 30, 2008, 1:05 PM Shri Lalit, Mr Raj Upadrashta's annoyance makes sense because here is a person who is simply curious to know about her/his future and decides to take a " smart " way out. she/he knows that if she/he asks for a reading, nobody is going to give it to her/him. so, he/she takes the " Let me see if astrology can guess my future right " route. there is nothing wrong wiht testing astrology. but in my humble opinion, nivedita isnt that curious to test the validity of this science. if the astrologers get teh readings right, is she going to give away her entire life's earning for developing this science or somehting? no, right? and since when did a science like astrology become desperate enough to prove anything to her/him? i'm quoting her " I'd be happy if i get satisfied results " that sure is arrogance, Sirs. -Karthik On 5/29/08, Raj Upadhrasta & lt;suryanayaka@ & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; *Om Kleem Kamalathmiakayai Namah* & gt; & gt; Shri Lalitji, & gt; Namaskar! & gt; & gt; My response was for the Querrist (Nivedita or ak_pen) attitude and & gt; sarcasm. I hope you understand that. & gt; & gt; I'm less qualified than you in all other jyothish matters. & gt; & gt; Best Regards, & gt; Raj Upadhrasta. & gt; & gt; & lt;% 40. com & gt;, & gt; " litsol " & lt;litsol & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Mr. Raj, & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I didnt understand why astrology should not be tested in astrolgy & gt; & gt; forums. Why astrologers should escape testing ? & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; regards, & gt; & gt; Lalit. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & lt;% 40. com & gt;, & gt; Raj Upadhrasta & gt; & gt; & lt;suryanayaka@ & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; * Om Kleem Kamalathmikayai Namah * & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Nivedita OR ak_pen@: & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp;ak_pen wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; //Can all the renowned astrologers please predict for this native & gt; & gt; & gt; (yes, it is me) the past, present and future life in terms of & gt; & gt; & gt; career, character, marriage, children, wealth, health, friends, & gt; & gt; & gt; popularity and ambition.// & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; & gt; & gt; It seems that you & amp;nbsp;forgot include category " death type and & gt; its & gt; & gt; circumstances " in your LONG & amp;nbsp;wish list. & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; & gt; & gt; If you want to test astrology- may I suggest this is not the & gt; right & gt; & gt; place. May be you post a newpaper/tv advt. & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; & gt; & gt; Here are & amp;nbsp;lots of people who have grandchildren older than & gt; your & gt; & gt; age AND can easily beat you in Sarcastic skills. So, Kindly be & gt; humble. & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; & gt; & gt; I guess you are having lots of fun and good days. But time & gt; changes & gt; & gt; and it changes everything. I'm sure life is a good teacher and you & gt; & gt; will come back to Dharmic way in correct attitude some day or the & gt; & gt; other. & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Best Regards, & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Raj Upadhrasta. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; --- On Wed, 5/28/08, ak_pen ak_pen@ wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; ak_pen ak_pen@ & gt; & gt; & gt; Fwd: ***Dear Astrologers* ** & gt; & gt; & gt; & lt;% 40. com & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 6:30 PM & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Respected Astrologers, & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I am newcomer to this group. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I see lots of mails which give accurate prediction on all topics. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I really wonder whether it is this much possible. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I believe in astrology.But I want to increase trustworthiness on & gt; & gt; & gt; it. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; So, can you please predict to the following & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Date of Birth : 26-Octo-1987 & gt; & gt; & gt; Place of Birth: Ahmedabad,Gujarat & gt; & gt; & gt; Time of Birth : 14.20 p.m. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Can all the renowned astrologers please predict for this native & gt; & gt; & gt; (yes, it is me) the past, present and future life in terms of & gt; & gt; & gt; career, character, marriage, children, wealth, health, friends, & gt; & gt; & gt; popularity and ambition. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Thanks a lot for your esteemed effort. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I would be happy if I could get satisfied results.. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Thanks and regards & gt; & gt; & gt; Nivedita & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Dear readers and repected astrologers I really don't understand why astrology can not be tested, even God can be tested. Swami Vivekananda was in search of God. He asked everyone he met if God is there, have you ever seen God. Almost everyone (including christian fathers, Muslim gurus, Hindu saints) said I believe in God, but have not seen him. Later Swami Vivekananda met Devendranath Tagore (father of Rabindranath Tagore) and asked the same question. He replied your eyes are so powerful like a sage's eyes. Swami Vivekananda immediately said you haven't seen God, but you are praising my eyes. you are not the right person. Finally, he met Bhagavan Ramakrishna and asked the same question. Bhagavan Ramakrishna smiled and confidently told, yes my dear child, I have seen God as like I see you now. I know him well. I live with him. He is my soul. he is my all. And I can show the God to you. You can also see. Yes, Swami Vivekananda got the answer and became a great Sage. Can you say Swami Vivekananda didn't believe God? Can you say Swami Vivekananda asked wrong question because God is beyond tesing? Can you say Swami Vivekananda didn't reach God? No, right? Like that everything can be tested..if you want to get final and clear cut results. Can I show you this is Guru, this is saturn in the sky. but we all believe, yes there should be jupitor and saturn. We all start raising the questions with basic beliefs. But asking for prediction doesn't violate that belief. Sorry, if I have hurt anyone. Thanks and regards Srikrishna Note: forwarded message attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Sandhuji, credit goes to Upadrashta for first identifying it. -Karthik. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Jatinder Sandhu <jps.sandhu wrote: > Dear Karthik ji, > I agree with you, the method adopted was cleverly disguised to get some > readings and then to vanish in thin air. Its the modus operandi of quite a > lot of people to get the free readings and then to muse over it. > & nbsp; > Regards > J.s.sandhu > > --- On Fri, 5/30/08, karthik mahadevan & lt;karthikmahad<karthikmahad%40gmail.com> & gt; > wrote: > > karthik mahadevan & lt;karthikmahad<karthikmahad%40gmail.com> > & gt; > Re: : ***Dear Astrologers*** > <%40> > Friday, May 30, 2008, 1:05 PM > > Shri Lalit, > > Mr Raj Upadrashta's annoyance makes sense because here is a person who is > simply curious to know about her/his future and decides to take a " smart " > way out. she/he knows that if she/he asks for a reading, nobody is going to > give it to her/him. so, he/she takes the " Let me see if astrology can guess > my future right " route. > > there is nothing wrong wiht testing astrology. but in my humble opinion, > nivedita isnt that curious to test the validity of this science. > > if the astrologers get teh readings right, is she going to give away her > entire life's earning for developing this science or somehting? no, right? > and since when did a science like astrology become desperate enough to > prove > anything to her/him? > > i'm quoting her " I'd be happy if i get satisfied results " > > that sure is arrogance, Sirs. > > -Karthik > > > On 5/29/08, Raj Upadhrasta & lt;suryanayaka@ & gt; wrote: > & gt; > & gt; *Om Kleem Kamalathmiakayai Namah* > & gt; > & gt; Shri Lalitji, > & gt; Namaskar! > & gt; > & gt; My response was for the Querrist (Nivedita or ak_pen) attitude and > & gt; sarcasm. I hope you understand that. > & gt; > & gt; I'm less qualified than you in all other jyothish matters. > & gt; > & gt; Best Regards, > & gt; Raj Upadhrasta. > & gt; > & gt; & lt;% > 40. com & gt;, > & gt; " litsol " & lt;litsol & gt; wrote: > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Dear Mr. Raj, > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I didnt understand why astrology should not be tested in astrolgy > & gt; & gt; forums. Why astrologers should escape testing ? > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; regards, > & gt; & gt; Lalit. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & lt;% > 40. com & gt;, > & gt; Raj Upadhrasta > & gt; & gt; & lt;suryanayaka@ & gt; wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; * Om Kleem Kamalathmikayai Namah * > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Nivedita OR ak_pen@: > & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp;ak_pen wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; //Can all the renowned astrologers please predict for this > native > & gt; & gt; & gt; (yes, it is me) the past, present and future life in terms > of > & gt; & gt; & gt; career, character, marriage, children, wealth, health, > friends, > & gt; & gt; & gt; popularity and ambition.// > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & gt; & gt; It seems that you & amp;nbsp;forgot include category " death > type and > & gt; its > & gt; & gt; circumstances " in your LONG & amp;nbsp;wish list. > & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & gt; & gt; If you want to test astrology- may I suggest this is not the > & gt; right > & gt; & gt; place. May be you post a newpaper/tv advt. > & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Here are & amp;nbsp;lots of people who have grandchildren > older than > & gt; your > & gt; & gt; age AND can easily beat you in Sarcastic skills. So, Kindly be > & gt; humble. > & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & gt; & gt; I guess you are having lots of fun and good days. But time > & gt; changes > & gt; & gt; and it changes everything. I'm sure life is a good teacher and > you > & gt; & gt; will come back to Dharmic way in correct attitude some day or the > & gt; & gt; other. > & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Best Regards, > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Raj Upadhrasta. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; --- On Wed, 5/28/08, ak_pen ak_pen@ wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; ak_pen ak_pen@ > & gt; & gt; & gt; Fwd: ***Dear Astrologers* ** > & gt; & gt; & gt; & lt;% > 40. com & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 6:30 PM > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Respected Astrologers, > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; I am newcomer to this group. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; I see lots of mails which give accurate prediction on all > topics. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; I really wonder whether it is this much possible. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; I believe in astrology.But I want to increase > trustworthiness on > & gt; & gt; & gt; it. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; So, can you please predict to the following > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Date of Birth : 26-Octo-1987 > & gt; & gt; & gt; Place of Birth: Ahmedabad,Gujarat > & gt; & gt; & gt; Time of Birth : 14.20 p.m. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Can all the renowned astrologers please predict for this > native > & gt; & gt; & gt; (yes, it is me) the past, present and future life in terms > of > & gt; & gt; & gt; career, character, marriage, children, wealth, health, > friends, > & gt; & gt; & gt; popularity and ambition. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Thanks a lot for your esteemed effort. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; I would be happy if I could get satisfied results.. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Thanks and regards > & gt; & gt; & gt; Nivedita > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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