Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Nikit, it is true Vaak siddhi persons can say anything even without horoscopes, they have that yogic gift I forgot to add that in the case I have said and in the other case sucide by the girl the clue will have to be from a few sides combined one Putra/putri shoka present in the parents [normally this occurs if they die young, there r times when parents lives in 80 's and their children's die in 50's or 60's this won't be much grief] the next is alpa ayush, madhya yogas in the child's case together only we can say this it is not always possible to say from one chart alone as basically we may not see any chart in such depth esp with seeing so many charts a day now due to computer s/w generated charts, I am sure the manual method while working itself u will be getting many clues on many good and bad yogas it is like a ready mix and freshly cooked food by your mother, fresh foods r always great so we must be able to see it is is not our greatness it is the subjects that allows us to see but again we may not be able to say so to all people without knowing that they can digest it so may max hint it and leave it never stress on it astrology is not about bull;s eye predictions it is about giving a suffering or to suffer person some hope and direction, if predictions come close to bull's eye also it is subjects greatness only and Almighty will decide how the message and by whom it must be given if at all [their karma balances allows it to be known before a tragic event has to happen can it be averted or allowed to happen etc] Best wishes astroiniket <astroiniket wrote: prashant ji, i am still on my opinion that Unnatural death cant be pridicted, even one cant forecast about related things. dear sir, leave about unnatural death, there are so many horoscope of living people's, i had seen personaly mostly pridictions came wrong some time, when time and other data is perfect. not by me only even pillers of astrology cant pridict exactly , by by serfacely one can touch, not in detail, only one can pridict when he is pure hearted astrologer, or with lot of blessing of almightly. like doctors you can say 100 ppl come for treatment but only those get cure who are destined for geting cure with particular doctor. lot of can be said but it all depends on almighty, what he wants from us, what he want to say from us, all depend on his wish, as we will pure same our Vani will be pure, in that condition whatever we will say will come true, i had seen few ppl who does not know abcd of astrology but whatever they pridict comes true. kind rgds niket , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Nikit, > > It is possible to say one will have tendencies for a unaural death, untimely death etc > these depend on their Karma and family that they r bon into [their collective karma] sometimes a window of hope is there, by some prayers, or some councelling etc and a close shave or call whatever it may be may happen, in most cases it won't stop the event > > an astrologers job is to identify them and let the family know of it, it is possible, but it will be a v heavy heart that one can put this, in a way suggesting remedies is a blessing to say we have told u and reduce their shock level > > I can give u an example > > female born on 7/5/96, 7.35 am Hyd > > I had to her father long beofre say in 1982 that irrespective of how many kids he may have 1st will be a girl and it may not last, > he dismissed it and even ridiculed it saying for generations the 1st born in their family is male so forget it > the girls 4th b'day was was celebrated in our house > > on June 11 99 at 3.09 pm her mother opened the grill door and main door to let the servant in and she went to the terrace to bring the clothes up to dry, > this child climbed [wet hands] the grill door to press the bell as kids like climbing heights esp grills, and playing with the calling bell etc > > as she did try it and was barefoot on the grill and the live wires to the bell were exposed she contacted it and was electrocuted on the spot and fell down dead > this prediction as such I was right, but did it give me happiness no as it brough the family to a lot of grief > > girl is a cousin of mine. > > my uncle who had faith in some astrologers who said many goood things of him never felt I can be right till this happened > > in spite of giving him a prediction 3 yrs before that he will resign on a particular day the next job will see him grow hell a lot > > from 3k a month for past 8 yrs he got a job on the said date for 9k and in 3 months became 12k now earns some lak plus a month] > > nothing impressed him, but this is no prediction to give anyone happiness does it? > I can cite more such examples if it helps > > for everyone it looks akala mrityu a asntrolger it is kala mrityu > [that was all she had if u see her chart and 22nd drekkana- death by water] > > best wishes > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket wrote: bhaskarji, > In simple words:(what i understand) > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , governed by > planets) > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as per > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters included > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, when > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, but some > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > rgds > niket > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > can guide me on this . > > > > 1) Mrityu > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > both these mrityus ? > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > are destined ? > > > > rgrds, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > > > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in > astrology. > > > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > > > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing > > suicide > > > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > > > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such > > courage. > > > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > > > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > > > > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness > > to > > > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is > not > > > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > > > > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > > wrote > > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in > > fact I > > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened > > was > > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... > Kshamaa > > is > > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't > forget > > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect > > you a > > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > > With regards > > > Sushma > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > > > > > > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > > > > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > > > > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > > > > > > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > > > > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > > > > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > > > > > > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > > > > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > > > > > > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > > > > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > > > > from being in above mentioned houses. > > > > > > > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars > > Dosha. > > > > > > > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > > > > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > > > > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > > > > who do not know even the small basics of > > > > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > > > > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > > > > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > > > > > > > For me there is only one solution. > > > > To shoot them dead. > > > > > > > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > > > > responses. Unfortunately my > > > > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > > > > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > > > > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > > > > bud, by committing suicide , > > > > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE > > ASTROLOGER " > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > members, > > > > > > > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, > > where > > > > each > > > > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > > > > collectively > > > > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > > > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also > > help > > > > > victims be reassured > > > > > > > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on > > the > > > > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on > > our > > > > lack > > > > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when > > we > > > > have > > > > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > > > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r > > many > > > > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > > > > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > > > > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology > to > > TV > > > > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] > > are > > > > not > > > > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it > is > > > > become > > > > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse > more, > > in > > > > the > > > > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre > > > married > > > > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the > > dosha > > > > > > > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self > > > sufficient > > > > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha > > is > > > > there > > > > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens > > else > > > > the > > > > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer > > as a > > > > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but > > the > > > > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if > > such a > > > > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire > > what > > > > can > > > > > ordinary men do > > > > > > > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, > > > disrespect > > > > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over > > spend > > > > or > > > > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > > > > demands > > > > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > > > > doesn't > > > > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > > > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice > > versa > > > if > > > > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > > > > becoming a > > > > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_url > > > > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_sitepage > > > > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > > > > > > > > > //end of configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > > > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > > > > > > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > > > > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > > > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos > + > > > > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > > > > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > > > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + > > pos + > > > > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! 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