Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Sushma, You are right on the karma/destiny part that a sucide is written on her, and also that the media will pick holes on it is also karma, but this will defeat the purpose of Jyotishya, to raise hope and do ur bit and let it happen still as destined. are we not seeing sucides by kids not able to cope with even X, XII board exams some even b4 the finish their papers some just around or after the results, sure there is a part in destiny, it is the job of a Jyotish to highlight it and let their parents know the same and do every bit to see a few attempots go in vain and if it still happens no issue our biggest enemies are the English media which is more leftist anything Hindu is riduclable. but they won't say the same when minorities religion have even worse beliefs here jyotish is not a belief, but a way to guide life, we have to do our bit and still allow fate to do its bit good or bad the fact that one gets into a question paper leak, a marks scandal,a some1 copying or buying papers and doing better and merit suffering also are part of destiny of the times we live in if the people who have to suffer thru such a doctor who may have passed in this fashion and a good, student did not get thru and thus cud not save people it is the victis destiny how will we know untill we face that music from such doctors, same with engineers and vehicle drivers lawyers etc anything that affects us good and bad is already written, but it is also said in MBH we have to do our bit fate and free will is 50:50 by being careless or complacent we can't make fate less but fate can be increased by neglect Best wishes , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in astrology. > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing suicide > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such courage. > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness to > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is not > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people wrote > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in fact I > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened was > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa is > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect you a > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > With regards > Sushma > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > > from being in above mentioned houses. > > > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars Dosha. > > > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > > who do not know even the small basics of > > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > > > For me there is only one solution. > > To shoot them dead. > > > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > > responses. Unfortunately my > > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > > bud, by committing suicide , > > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > members, > > > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, where > > each > > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > > collectively > > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also help > > > victims be reassured > > > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on the > > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on our > > lack > > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when we > > have > > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r many > > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to TV > > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] are > > not > > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is > > become > > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, in > > the > > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre > married > > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the dosha > > > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self > sufficient > > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha is > > there > > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens else > > the > > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer as a > > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but the > > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if such a > > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire what > > can > > > ordinary men do > > > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, > disrespect > > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over spend > > or > > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > > demands > > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > > doesn't > > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice versa > if > > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > > becoming a > > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > > > OAS_url > > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > > > OAS_sitepage > > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > > > //end of configuration > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Thanks Prashant Ji I think Jyotish's purpose is just to let you know your future, not to interfere in it. Nobody is Maarkandeya here who can chage his fate from 16 year old to immortality, nor any of us is Saavitree who can bring back her husband back from Yam Lok. Do you have any other such example in changing the fates? I still doubt that wearing gems, praying etc change fates. They are only " Nimitta " and these Nimitta come to you only when the time comes for that change in your life, otherwise you go on looking for these Nimitta and you don't find them. Mind, you also give such statements - " Wait till this period, after this you will be all right. " What is that? THis is that Jyotish tells you what is happening, not that it can change your life. The life changing events will happen when their time comes, not before, not after. Well, as I wrote to Bhaskar Ji, this topic is very long. It cannot be discussed through mails. But I appreciate your ideas. Besides the idea of prevailing fate, I also believe in Karm, because that is our duty to do. Just because of fate, according to our human nature, we cannot sit idle. With regards Sushma , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Sushma, > > You are right on the karma/destiny part that a sucide is written on > her, and also that the media will pick holes on it is also karma, but > this will defeat the purpose of Jyotishya, to raise hope and do ur bit > and let it happen still as destined. > > are we not seeing sucides by kids not able to cope with even X, XII > board exams some even b4 the finish their papers some just around or > after the results, sure there is a part in destiny, it is the job of a > Jyotish to highlight it and let their parents know the same and do > every bit to see a few attempots go in vain and if it still happens no > issue > > our biggest enemies are the English media which is more leftist > anything Hindu is riduclable. but they won't say the same when > minorities religion have even worse beliefs > > here jyotish is not a belief, but a way to guide life, we have to do > our bit and still allow fate to do its bit good or bad > > the fact that one gets into a question paper leak, a marks scandal,a > some1 copying or buying papers and doing better and merit suffering > also are part of destiny of the times we live in if the people who > have to suffer thru such a doctor who may have passed in this fashion > and a good, student did not get thru and thus cud not save people it > is the victis destiny > > how will we know untill we face that music from such doctors, same > with engineers and vehicle drivers lawyers etc anything that affects > us good and bad is already written, but it is also said in MBH we have > to do our bit fate and free will is 50:50 by being careless or > complacent we can't make fate less but fate can be increased by neglect > > Best wishes > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in astrology. > > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing suicide > > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such courage. > > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness to > > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is not > > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people wrote > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in fact I > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened was > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa is > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect you a > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > With regards > > Sushma > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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