Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Dear Memmbers, It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to TV studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. We must help set this trend right that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] are not criminals or condemned for life Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is become a weapon to malign them they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, in the past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre married life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the dosha and for the current times when women work and are self sufficient just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha is there and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens else the other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer as a avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but the Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if such a Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire what can ordinary men do they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, disrespect their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over spend or abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their demands as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it doesn't happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice versa if men have it and women are victims of it too now this story in today in Times of India this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way becoming a superstiton and a cruel slant on woen prashant //configuration OAS_url ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; OAS_query = '?'; OAS_sitepage = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; //end of configuration OAS_version = 10; OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url + 'click_nx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url + 'adstream_nx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); } OAS_version = 11; if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') != -1) OAS_version = 10; if (OAS_version >= 11) document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 SRC= " ' + OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); document.write(''); function OAS_AD(pos) { if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)!='undefined') OAS_RICH(pos); else OAS_NORMAL(pos); } OAS_AD('Position1'); Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_self/article\ show/2931458.cms ______________________________\ ____ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 members, i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, where each can write what they can and may be then upload the file collectively in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also help victims be reassured when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on the subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on our lack of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when we have run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r many other such sensitive topics that need attention so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well Happy Ugadi Best wishes , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Memmbers, > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to TV studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > We must help set this trend right > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] are not criminals or condemned for life > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is become a weapon to malign them > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, in the past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre married life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the dosha > > and for the current times when women work and are self sufficient just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha is there and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens else the other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer as a avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but the Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if such a Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire what can ordinary men do > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, disrespect their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over spend or abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their demands as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it doesn't happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice versa if men have it and women are victims of it too > > now this story in today in Times of India > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way becoming a superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > prashant > > > > //configuration > OAS_url ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > OAS_query = '?'; > OAS_sitepage = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > //end of configuration > OAS_version = 10; > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url + 'click_nx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url + 'adstream_nx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > } > > OAS_version = 11; > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') != -1) > OAS_version = 10; > if (OAS_version >= 11) > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 SRC= " ' + OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > document.write(''); > function OAS_AD(pos) { > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)!='undefined') > OAS_RICH(pos); > else > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > } > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_self/article\ show/2931458.cms > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Dear Shri Prashantji, This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. there are many exceptions to such rules. The half baked astrologers, do not know or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. There is another school which i too believe in, is studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart from being in above mentioned houses. This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars Dosha. The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, who do not know even the small basics of chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. For me there is only one solution. To shoot them dead. Shri prashantji, you were looking for responses. Unfortunately my responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent and candid. Because my blood boils when I read such stories of young ladies nipped in the bud, by committing suicide , due to readings of such half baked astrologers. regards, Bhaskar. , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " <gbp_kumar wrote: > > members, > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, where each > can write what they can and may be then upload the file collectively > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also help > victims be reassured > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on the > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on our lack > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when we have > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r many > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > Happy Ugadi > > Best wishes > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to TV > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] are not > criminals or condemned for life > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is become > a weapon to malign them > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, in the > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre married > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the dosha > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self sufficient > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha is there > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens else the > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer as a > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but the > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if such a > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire what can > ordinary men do > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, disrespect > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over spend or > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their demands > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it doesn't > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice versa if > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way becoming a > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > //configuration > > OAS_url ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > OAS_query = '?'; > > OAS_sitepage = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > //end of configuration > > OAS_version = 10; > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url + 'click_nx.ads/' + > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > } > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') != -1) > > OAS_version = 10; > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 SRC= " ' + > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > document.write(''); > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! ='undefined') > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > else > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > } > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > > http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Bhaskar, by response I did not mean what we feel emotionally but how to save the subject from half baked and quacks. the points u said like stellar etc can be given in some more measure and some day must be put in all groups let there be some work from us and not the quacks, this even the temple priests who have not learnt their priestly subjects or this Jyotish shastra on face value and no depth reject some, at times just to impress their people and get some favors with token rejections also has damaged the subject I hope others have a word or tow on this and we need to get out of the obsession on Lalit there r more serious issues we need time, energy on my browser has problems with both the all new and classic in sending mails now so am using the group mail page to reply my name there appears different, it was as suggested by when i created/entered the group, cud not change it further this is no fake ID as my main ID will remain same and my signature as Prashant Best wishes prashant , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > from being in above mentioned houses. > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars Dosha. > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > who do not know even the small basics of > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > For me there is only one solution. > To shoot them dead. > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > responses. Unfortunately my > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > bud, by committing suicide , > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > members, > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, where > each > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > collectively > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also help > > victims be reassured > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on the > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on our > lack > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when we > have > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r many > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > Best wishes > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to TV > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] are > not > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is > become > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, in > the > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre married > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the dosha > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self sufficient > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha is > there > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens else > the > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer as a > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but the > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if such a > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire what > can > > ordinary men do > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, disrespect > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over spend > or > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > demands > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > doesn't > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice versa if > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > becoming a > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > OAS_url > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > OAS_sitepage > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > //end of configuration > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > > > } > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') != -1) > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 > SRC= " ' + > > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns > + '@' + > > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > > > > > document.write(''); > > > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! > ='undefined') > > > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > > > else > > > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > > > } > > > > > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s > elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > _______________ > > > You rock. 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in astrology. Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing suicide is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such courage. Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness to anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is not good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people wrote among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in fact I am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened was not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa is Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect you a lot, you seem to be a very good person. With regards Sushma , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > from being in above mentioned houses. > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars Dosha. > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > who do not know even the small basics of > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > For me there is only one solution. > To shoot them dead. > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > responses. Unfortunately my > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > bud, by committing suicide , > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > members, > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, where > each > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > collectively > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also help > > victims be reassured > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on the > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on our > lack > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when we > have > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r many > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > Best wishes > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to TV > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] are > not > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is > become > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, in > the > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre married > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the dosha > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self sufficient > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha is > there > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens else > the > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer as a > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but the > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if such a > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire what > can > > ordinary men do > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, disrespect > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over spend > or > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > demands > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > doesn't > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice versa if > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > becoming a > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > OAS_url > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > OAS_sitepage > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > //end of configuration > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > > > } > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') != -1) > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 > SRC= " ' + > > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns > + '@' + > > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > > > > > document.write(''); > > > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! > ='undefined') > > > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > > > else > > > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > > > } > > > > > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s > elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > _______________ > > > You rock. 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Dear Sushma ji, // but being an astrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in astrology. Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is rascal, // This is amusing observance on your part. belief or not in astrology, has got nothing to do with this. If one lady goes to Surgeon who is a quack and he takes out the wrong kidney which was actually working and had no malignancy, then would you call this her destiny, and not call the Doctor a rascal ? Avccording to you, the girl who is raped is her destiny, thatswhy we must not call the Rapist a rascal. Madam in all professions, there are rascals. In which world are you living ? Madam there is something known as " foolishness' which we must not do, by going to quacks. // No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness to anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is not good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? // This is a good reading for Satsanga, but in actual living , this wll not work. Go and tell this to the policemen at the plice stations, and tell them that dont blame those who are behind bars, the persons who got affected by their crimes, all got their destinys worth. If the Doctor gives a wrong injection to your mother lying in the hospital , then would you take it as your destiny, and not say a word to the doctor ? So madam preaching and practise are 2 entire seperate banks of the river. Only the Great ones can make them meet. And we are not amongst those great, at the moment. Madam there is something known as " Nimitta " which is what all these people whom we call rascals are. We also know this is our destiny, but dont we yet do so many things which do not show that we use this knowledge in actual practise ? // Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people wrote among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in fact I am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. // aap Sab jaante hain , kahna nahin chahte ,parantu phir bhi kahte hain. Bahut accha. // All that happened was not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa is Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. // kshama achhi baat hai. But Krishna did kill kansa. Rama did kill ravana. The justice courts are still giving capital punishment even today. And all these people were/are not fools. Kshama (Forgiveness) must be there, uptil a limit, but not after that. One who cannot understand the language of kshama, must be made to see sense by any of the methods, Sama,Dama,Danda bhed. If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect you a lot, you seem to be a very good person. You seem to be a good person too I beleieve in all words you said above, including " everything is got by ones destiny " but for the good things as well as the bad things hapenning in our Lives, the nimittas are responsible, and when the bad things happen, then we naturally point fingers at these nimittas. At good times we dont bother much, but enjoy the good times or hapennings. because I am going to hava a son in my destiny, does not mean that it will be born from the sky, the nimitta will be my marriage to a girl. And our physical union would be responsible for the same. Therefore Karma is pradhan. We cannoyt play the Damru of " Destiny " and just sit on the bed, That is akarmanyata, whereas we have to be in motion all the time involved in our regular duties. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in astrology. > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing suicide > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such courage. > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness to > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is not > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people wrote > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in fact I > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened was > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa is > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect you a > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > With regards > Sushma > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > > from being in above mentioned houses. > > > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars Dosha. > > > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > > who do not know even the small basics of > > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > > > For me there is only one solution. > > To shoot them dead. > > > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > > responses. Unfortunately my > > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > > bud, by committing suicide , > > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > members, > > > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, where > > each > > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > > collectively > > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also help > > > victims be reassured > > > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on the > > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on our > > lack > > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when we > > have > > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r many > > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to TV > > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] are > > not > > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is > > become > > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, in > > the > > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre > married > > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the dosha > > > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self > sufficient > > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha is > > there > > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens else > > the > > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer as a > > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but the > > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if such a > > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire what > > can > > > ordinary men do > > > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, > disrespect > > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over spend > > or > > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > > demands > > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > > doesn't > > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice versa > if > > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > > becoming a > > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > > > OAS_url > > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > > > OAS_sitepage > > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > > > //end of configuration > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > > > > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') != -1) > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > > > > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 > > SRC= " ' + > > > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns > > + '@' + > > > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write(''); > > > > > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! > > ='undefined') > > > > > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > > > > > else > > > > > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > > > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s > > elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > _______________ > > > > You rock. 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Dear sushmaji, I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not know the meaning exactly, and hope you can guide me on this . 1) Mrityu 2) Akaal mrityu. Can you guide me to the difference in both these mrityus ? Also let me know, whether both of thse are destined ? rgrds, Bhaskar. , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in astrology. > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing suicide > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such courage. > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness to > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is not > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people wrote > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in fact I > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened was > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa is > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect you a > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > With regards > Sushma > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > > from being in above mentioned houses. > > > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars Dosha. > > > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > > who do not know even the small basics of > > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > > > For me there is only one solution. > > To shoot them dead. > > > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > > responses. Unfortunately my > > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > > bud, by committing suicide , > > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > members, > > > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, where > > each > > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > > collectively > > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also help > > > victims be reassured > > > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on the > > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on our > > lack > > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when we > > have > > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r many > > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to TV > > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] are > > not > > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is > > become > > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, in > > the > > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre > married > > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the dosha > > > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self > sufficient > > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha is > > there > > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens else > > the > > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer as a > > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but the > > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if such a > > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire what > > can > > > ordinary men do > > > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, > disrespect > > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over spend > > or > > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > > demands > > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > > doesn't > > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice versa > if > > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > > becoming a > > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > > > OAS_url > > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > > > OAS_sitepage > > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > > > //end of configuration > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > > > > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') != -1) > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > > > > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 > > SRC= " ' + > > > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns > > + '@' + > > > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write(''); > > > > > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! > > ='undefined') > > > > > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > > > > > else > > > > > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > > > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s > > elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > _______________ > > > > You rock. 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 bhaskarji, In simple words:(what i understand) 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , governed by planets) 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as per planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters included war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, when deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, but some chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. rgds niket , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > Dear sushmaji, > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > can guide me on this . > > 1) Mrityu > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > Can you guide me to the difference in > both these mrityus ? > Also let me know, whether both of thse > are destined ? > > rgrds, > Bhaskar. > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in astrology. > > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing > suicide > > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such > courage. > > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness > to > > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is not > > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > wrote > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in > fact I > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened > was > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa > is > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect > you a > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > With regards > > Sushma > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > > > > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > > > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > > > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > > > > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > > > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > > > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > > > > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > > > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > > > > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > > > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > > > from being in above mentioned houses. > > > > > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars > Dosha. > > > > > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > > > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > > > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > > > who do not know even the small basics of > > > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > > > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > > > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > > > > > For me there is only one solution. > > > To shoot them dead. > > > > > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > > > responses. Unfortunately my > > > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > > > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > > > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > > > bud, by committing suicide , > > > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE > ASTROLOGER " > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > members, > > > > > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, > where > > > each > > > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > > > collectively > > > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also > help > > > > victims be reassured > > > > > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on > the > > > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on > our > > > lack > > > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when > we > > > have > > > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r > many > > > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology to > TV > > > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] > are > > > not > > > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it is > > > become > > > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse more, > in > > > the > > > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre > > married > > > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the > dosha > > > > > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self > > sufficient > > > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha > is > > > there > > > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens > else > > > the > > > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer > as a > > > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but > the > > > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if > such a > > > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire > what > > > can > > > > ordinary men do > > > > > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, > > disrespect > > > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over > spend > > > or > > > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > > > demands > > > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > > > doesn't > > > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice > versa > > if > > > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > > > becoming a > > > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > > > > > > OAS_url > > > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > > > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > > > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > > > > > > OAS_sitepage > > > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > > > > > > //end of configuration > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > > > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > > > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > > > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos + > > > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > > > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > > > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + > pos + > > > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > > > > > > > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') != -1) > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > > > > > > > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 > > > SRC= " ' + > > > > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns > > > + '@' + > > > > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write(''); > > > > > > > > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > > > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! > > > ='undefined') > > > > > > > > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > > > > > > > > else > > > > > > > > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s > > > elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > > _______________ > > > > > You rock. 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 just addition - in my view no one can pridict about unnatural death or akal mritue. rgds niket , " astroiniket " <astroiniket wrote: > > bhaskarji, > In simple words:(what i understand) > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , governed by > planets) > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as per > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters included > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, when > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, but some > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > rgds > niket > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > can guide me on this . > > > > 1) Mrityu > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > both these mrityus ? > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > are destined ? > > > > rgrds, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > > > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in > astrology. > > > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > > > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing > > suicide > > > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > > > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such > > courage. > > > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > > > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > > > > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness > > to > > > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is > not > > > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > > > > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > > wrote > > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in > > fact I > > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened > > was > > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... > Kshamaa > > is > > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't > forget > > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect > > you a > > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > > With regards > > > Sushma > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > > > > > > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > > > > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > > > > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > > > > > > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > > > > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > > > > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > > > > > > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > > > > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > > > > > > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > > > > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > > > > from being in above mentioned houses. > > > > > > > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars > > Dosha. > > > > > > > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > > > > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > > > > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > > > > who do not know even the small basics of > > > > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > > > > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > > > > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > > > > > > > For me there is only one solution. > > > > To shoot them dead. > > > > > > > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > > > > responses. Unfortunately my > > > > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > > > > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > > > > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > > > > bud, by committing suicide , > > > > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE > > ASTROLOGER " > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > members, > > > > > > > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, > > where > > > > each > > > > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > > > > collectively > > > > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > > > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also > > help > > > > > victims be reassured > > > > > > > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on > > the > > > > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on > > our > > > > lack > > > > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when > > we > > > > have > > > > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > > > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r > > many > > > > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > > > > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > > > > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology > to > > TV > > > > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] > > are > > > > not > > > > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it > is > > > > become > > > > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse > more, > > in > > > > the > > > > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre > > > married > > > > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the > > dosha > > > > > > > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self > > > sufficient > > > > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha > > is > > > > there > > > > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens > > else > > > > the > > > > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer > > as a > > > > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but > > the > > > > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if > > such a > > > > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire > > what > > > > can > > > > > ordinary men do > > > > > > > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, > > > disrespect > > > > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over > > spend > > > > or > > > > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > > > > demands > > > > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > > > > doesn't > > > > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > > > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice > > versa > > > if > > > > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > > > > becoming a > > > > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_url > > > > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_sitepage > > > > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > > > > > > > > > //end of configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > > > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > > > > > > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > > > > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > > > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos > + > > > > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > > > > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > > > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + > > pos + > > > > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > > > > > > > > > > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mozilla/3') ! = -1) > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 > > > > SRC= " ' + > > > > > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns > > > > + '@' + > > > > > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write(''); > > > > > > > > > > > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > > > > > > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! > > > > ='undefined') > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > > > > > > > > > > > else > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s > > > > elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > > > _______________ > > > > > > You rock. 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Dear Niketji, the answer you gave, is the one I required exactly for Sushmaji her self to say,and now for her to read. Sushmaji - read this The girls suicide in quetion could have been akaal mrityu forced through wrong readings by the rascal astrologers her parents visited, so one cannot say with certainity that suicide was written in her destiny,and if all such suicideds and early deaths were written as destiny, then the concept or term of " akaal mrityu " would not have been metioned in the Shastras and our ancient books. I have a case of " akaal mrityu " of my own Uncle (Mothers real brother) who expired early in childhood, and when he grew old and everyone forgot him, he appeared before my (Late) maternal Grandfather and reminded him, that he has now grown big and he needs clother for his age. Subsequentally my grandfather donated the clothes to a Brahmin, after which he appeared once again before him.......... I have recently one more case in close relations, who appeared in Haridwar, in a marriage in which i too was invited ( But could not go), and he blessed the couple and said few things and left. So all suicides or early deaths may may not be necessarily someones destiny, or are they ....... ? Who knows ... ? Who can say this with perfection...? Shri Niketji, You are absolutely right about the examples you gave. Each example is a case of akaal mrityu. rgrds, Bhaskar. , " astroiniket " <astroiniket wrote: > > bhaskarji, > In simple words:(what i understand) > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , governed by > planets) > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as per > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters included > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, when > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, but some > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > rgds > niket > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > can guide me on this . > > > > 1) Mrityu > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > both these mrityus ? > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > are destined ? > > > > rgrds, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > > > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in > astrology. > > > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > > > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing > > suicide > > > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > > > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such > > courage. > > > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > > > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > > > > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness > > to > > > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is > not > > > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > > > > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > > wrote > > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in > > fact I > > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened > > was > > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... > Kshamaa > > is > > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't > forget > > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect > > you a > > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > > With regards > > > Sushma > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > > > > > > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > > > > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > > > > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > > > > > > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > > > > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > > > > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > > > > > > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > > > > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > > > > > > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > > > > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > > > > from being in above mentioned houses. > > > > > > > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars > > Dosha. > > > > > > > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > > > > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > > > > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > > > > who do not know even the small basics of > > > > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > > > > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > > > > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > > > > > > > For me there is only one solution. > > > > To shoot them dead. > > > > > > > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > > > > responses. Unfortunately my > > > > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > > > > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > > > > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > > > > bud, by committing suicide , > > > > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE > > ASTROLOGER " > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > members, > > > > > > > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, > > where > > > > each > > > > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > > > > collectively > > > > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth about > > > > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and also > > help > > > > > victims be reassured > > > > > > > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not on > > the > > > > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on > > our > > > > lack > > > > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and when > > we > > > > have > > > > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re-focus on > > > > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there r > > many > > > > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > > > > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > > > > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology > to > > TV > > > > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai dosham] > > are > > > > not > > > > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it > is > > > > become > > > > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse > more, > > in > > > > the > > > > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre > > > married > > > > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her sons > > > > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the > > dosha > > > > > > > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self > > > sufficient > > > > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all others > > > > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this dosha > > is > > > > there > > > > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it happens > > else > > > > the > > > > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden deer > > as a > > > > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, but > > the > > > > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if > > such a > > > > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire > > what > > > > can > > > > > ordinary men do > > > > > > > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, > > > disrespect > > > > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over > > spend > > > > or > > > > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy their > > > > demands > > > > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if it > > > > doesn't > > > > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do find > > > > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice > > versa > > > if > > > > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > > > > becoming a > > > > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_url > > > > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_sitepage > > > > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > > > > > > > > > //end of configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns = '1234567890'; > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > > > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > > > > > > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > > > > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > > > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + pos > + > > > > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > > > > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > > > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + > > pos + > > > > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > > > > > > > > > > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf ('Mozilla/3') != -1) > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 > > > > SRC= " ' + > > > > > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns > > > > + '@' + > > > > > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write(''); > > > > > > > > > > > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > > > > > > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! > > > > ='undefined') > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > > > > > > > > > > > else > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s > > > > elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > > > _______________ > > > > > > You rock. 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 yes sir, very true. rgrds, Bhaskar. , " astroiniket " <astroiniket wrote: > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about unnatural death > or akal mritue. > > rgds > niket > , " astroiniket " > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > bhaskarji, > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is > > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , governed > by > > planets) > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as per > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters included > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, when > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, but > some > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > rgds > > niket > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > both these mrityus ? > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > are destined ? > > > > > > rgrds, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > > > > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in > > astrology. > > > > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > > > > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing > > > suicide > > > > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra > which > > > > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such > > > courage. > > > > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. > So, > > > > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > > > > > > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give > happiness > > > to > > > > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is > > not > > > > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > > > > > > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > > > wrote > > > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in > > > fact I > > > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that > happened > > > was > > > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... > > Kshamaa > > > is > > > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't > > forget > > > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > > > > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect > > > you a > > > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > > > With regards > > > > Sushma > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Prashantji, > > > > > > > > > > This sucide by the girl who was Manglik, shows the > > > > > play of rascal astrologers , who turn astrologers > > > > > within 3-5 months of reading 1-2 books. > > > > > > > > > > Mars in a womens chart placed in 1st, 4th, 7th, > > > > > 8th or 12th , in all charts does not cause Manglik Dosha. > > > > > there are many exceptions to such rules. > > > > > > > > > > The half baked astrologers, do not know > > > > > or study these rules, and cause grief to such parents. > > > > > > > > > > There is another school which i too believe in, is > > > > > studying the Nakshatra which Mars is placed in, apart > > > > > from being in above mentioned houses. > > > > > > > > > > This too is helpful in considering the intensity of the Mars > > > Dosha. > > > > > > > > > > The problem in India is half baked astrologers (???) > > > > > like Lalit Mishra, who have turned self prophesed astrologers > > > > > by showing their charts for free to hundreds of astrologers, > > > > > who do not know even the small basics of > > > > > chart readings, when they study charts and pass negative > > > > > statements after reading effects of planets placed in Houses, > > > > > in isolation, who cause much trouble to this science. > > > > > > > > > > For me there is only one solution. > > > > > To shoot them dead. > > > > > > > > > > Shri prashantji, you were looking for > > > > > responses. Unfortunately my > > > > > responses on such matters are very blunt, transparent > > > > > and candid. Because my blood boils when I > > > > > read such stories of young ladies nipped in the > > > > > bud, by committing suicide , > > > > > due to readings of such half baked astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE > > > ASTROLOGER " > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > members, > > > > > > > > > > > > i AM SURPRISED OVER THE LACK OF RESPONSE ON SUCH A TOPIC, > > > where > > > > > each > > > > > > can write what they can and may be then upload the file > > > > > collectively > > > > > > in as many forums and spread the positive side and truth > about > > > > > > Mangalik and help the subject from attacks by media and > also > > > help > > > > > > victims be reassured > > > > > > > > > > > > when so much emotions is spent on our own members why not > on > > > the > > > > > > subject that concerns every astrologer as the blame lies on > > > our > > > > > lack > > > > > > of continued clarity, this we have to keep doing as and > when > > > we > > > > > have > > > > > > run out of topics and also break the war mood and re- focus > on > > > > > > astrology, this way groups can work better, I am sure there > r > > > many > > > > > > other such sensitive topics that need attention > > > > > > > > > > > > so I hope there will be some effort from all of u as well > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Ugadi > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Memmbers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was really sad reading this story and brings astrology > > to > > > TV > > > > > > studios and press in bad light who abuses it further. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We must help set this trend right > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that Mangliks [kuja dosha, angaraka dosha, chevvai > dosham] > > > are > > > > > not > > > > > > criminals or condemned for life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mangalik dosha is a insurance for women and shield now it > > is > > > > > become > > > > > > a weapon to malign them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they have potential in them that dominate their spouse > > more, > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > past esp women had little choice but be with parents in pre > > > > married > > > > > > life and after it the house of in-laws and later with her > sons > > > > > > > and more so if both don't have it or an eual level of the > > > dosha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and for the current times when women work and are self > > > > sufficient > > > > > > just Mars in 7 or 8 alone need to casue concern not all > others > > > > > > > and here too match with a like one and mot lesser ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and in cases where the husbands died early when this > dosha > > > is > > > > > there > > > > > > and also Alpa ayush is their in the husbands only it > happens > > > else > > > > > the > > > > > > other dominates if Sri rama went in search of the Golden > deer > > > as a > > > > > > avatara purusha he knoew it so did Laxmana also warn him, > but > > > the > > > > > > Mangalik dosha alone made rama chase it for seethas sake if > > > such a > > > > > > Marayada Purusha cou;nt resist fulfilling the wifes desire > > > what > > > > > can > > > > > > ordinary men do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they to fulfill their wives pleasure will even disown, > > > > disrespect > > > > > > their own caring parents, or borrow or take bribes and over > > > spend > > > > > or > > > > > > abandon work in crucial times and come home to satisfy > their > > > > > demands > > > > > > as the gravitational pull of such a partner is awesome, if > it > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > happen and there is combinations for going astray they do > find > > > > > > alternate men who can give happiness same is the case vice > > > versa > > > > if > > > > > > men have it and women are victims of it too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now this story in today in Times of India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is more to protect a women not harm her esp this way > > > > > becoming a > > > > > > superstiton and a cruel slant on woen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_url > > > > > ='http://adstil.indiatimes.com/RealMedia/ads/'; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_listpos = 'Position1'; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_query = '?'; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_sitepage > > > > > = 'www.timesofindia.com/Innovation/index.html'; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //end of configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = '001234567890'; OAS_rns > = '1234567890'; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_rn = new String (Math.random()); OAS_rns = > > > > > > OAS_rn.substring (2, 11); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > function OAS_NORMAL(pos) { > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<A HREF= " ' + OAS_url > > > > > + 'click_nx.ads/' + > > > > > > OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + > pos > > + > > > > > > OAS_query + ' " TARGET=_top>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<IMG SRC= " ' + OAS_url > > > > > + 'adstream_nx.ads/' > > > > > > + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + OAS_rns + '@' + OAS_listpos + '!' + > > > pos + > > > > > > OAS_query + ' " BORDER=0 ALT= " Click! " ></A>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 11; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf ('Mozilla/3') ! > = -1) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_version = 10; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write('<SC'+'RIPT > LANGUAGE=JavaScript1.1 > > > > > SRC= " ' + > > > > > > OAS_url + 'adstream_mjx.ads/' + OAS_sitepage + '/1' + > OAS_rns > > > > > + '@' + > > > > > > OAS_listpos + OAS_query + ' " ><\/SCRIPT>'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > document.write(''); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > function OAS_AD(pos) { > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if (OAS_version >= 11 & & typeof(OAS_RICH)! > > > > > ='undefined') > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_RICH(pos); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_NORMAL(pos); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OAS_AD('Position1'); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rejected by suitors, girl hangs self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Snubbed_by_suitors_WB_girl_hangs_s > > > > > elf/articleshow/2931458.cms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > > > > _______________ > > > > > > > You rock. 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Thank you very much Bhaskar Ji for your so detailed reply. Actually it is long topic which cannot be covered here through these mails. I know only this much after reading many scriptures that " Even we do Karm, it does not help if our DEstiny does not allow it; at the same time, there are many things which we have never imagined even, happen by our Destiny. " You are right there is always a " Nimitta " for everything but, in my views, those Nimittas come to you automatically, and you cannot do anything, whether they are for good or for bad. I can give you hundreds of examples to prove my statements. That is all - Thanks for the reply With regards Sushma , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > > Dear Sushma ji, > > // but being an astrologer, it seems that you yourself don't > belive in astrology. Committing suicide was written in her > destiny. No astrologer is rascal, // > > This is amusing observance on your part. belief or > not in astrology, has got nothing to do with this. If one > lady goes to Surgeon who is a quack and he takes > out the wrong kidney which was actually working > and had no malignancy, then would you call > this her destiny, and not call the Doctor a rascal ? > Avccording to you, the girl who is raped is her > destiny, thatswhy we must not call the Rapist > a rascal. Madam in all professions, there are > rascals. In which world are you living ? > > Madam there is something known as " foolishness' which > we must not do, by going to quacks. > > // No person can give grief to anybody, no person can > give happiness to anybody, everything is got by one's > Destiny; that is why it is not good to blame others. > Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? // > > This is a good reading for Satsanga, but in actual living , > this wll not work. Go and tell this to the policemen > at the plice stations, and tell them that dont blame those > who are behind bars, the persons who got > affected by their crimes, all got their destinys worth. > If the Doctor gives a wrong injection to > your mother lying in the hospital , then would you > take it as your destiny, and not say a word > to the doctor ? So madam preaching and practise are > 2 entire seperate banks of the river. Only > the Great ones can make them meet. > And we are not amongst those great, at the moment. > > Madam there is something known as " Nimitta " > which is what all these people whom we call > rascals are. We also know this is our destiny, but > dont we yet do so many things which do not show that > we use this knowledge in actual practise ? > > // Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > wrote > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in fact > I > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. // > > aap Sab jaante hain , kahna nahin chahte ,parantu phir > bhi kahte hain. Bahut accha. > > // All that happened was > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa > is > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. // > > kshama achhi baat hai. > But Krishna did kill kansa. Rama did kill ravana. > The justice courts are still giving capital punishment > even today. And all these people were/are not fools. > Kshama (Forgiveness) must be there, uptil > a limit, but not after that. One who cannot understand the > language of kshama, must be made > to see sense by any of the methods, > Sama,Dama,Danda bhed. > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect you > a > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > You seem to be a good person too I beleieve in all words you said > above, including " everything is got by ones destiny " but for > the good things as well as the bad things hapenning in our > Lives, the nimittas are responsible, and when the bad things happen, > then > we naturally point fingers at these nimittas. At good times we dont > bother much, but enjoy the good times or hapennings. > because I am going to hava a son in my destiny, does not mean > that it will be born from the sky, the nimitta > will be my marriage to a girl. And our physical union would be > responsible for the same. Therefore Karma > is pradhan. We cannoyt play the Damru of > " Destiny " and just sit on the bed, That is akarmanyata, > whereas we have to be in motion all the time involved > in our regular duties. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > , " bhagvatjee " > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in astrology. > > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing > suicide > > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such > courage. > > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness > to > > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is not > > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > wrote > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in > fact I > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened > was > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa > is > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect > you a > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > With regards > > Sushma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear bhagvateejee, Yes You are right, such topics cannit be contained in few mails or brought to a conclusive end. I believe that - 1) At times karmas can overshadow Destiny. 2) At times howmuch Karma a person would do,yet he would not be able to overshadow his Destiny. 3) Nimittas are good or bad, depending on the results they give us. 4) One cannot control these Nimittas. 5) nimittas can also be Living conscious people like parents,Spouse or relatives overwhom we would have no control, but who would influence our destiny as internal factors in our Lives. 6) Nimittas may also be any happenning through other living people whom we do not know, strangers who come in our Life suddenly to cause us happiness or pain, depending on the rina to be repaid or exacted. 7) Nimittas may also be Non living jad-without chetan matters like Circumstances we ar living in, the house, the education we possess, the limitations we are into due to personal, family, social restrictions or conditions. Thus all in all, we do not have power over so many factors of our Life, BUT we have the power to work little or more due to these internal or external factors within the scope given to us. We ALSO have the power to change our approach and mindset to these internal and external factors sorrounding us, and to feel happy or sad, or nothing at all, that is remain unpreturbed. This all depends on the conditioning of'the mind, which is not easy, but a realisation, and then a gradual continous efforts , towards effecting the change required within us. But not so easy as it sounds. Thanks for taking my mail positively and not feeling offended by my direct talking. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > Thank you very much Bhaskar Ji for your so detailed reply. Actually > it is long topic which cannot be covered here through these mails. I > know only this much after reading many scriptures that " Even we do > Karm, it does not help if our DEstiny does not allow it; at the same > time, there are many things which we have never imagined even, happen > by our Destiny. " You are right there is always a " Nimitta " for > everything but, in my views, those Nimittas come to you > automatically, and you cannot do anything, whether they are for good > or for bad. I can give you hundreds of examples to prove my > statements. > > That is all - Thanks for the reply > With regards > Sushma > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sushma ji, > > > > // but being an astrologer, it seems that you yourself don't > > belive in astrology. Committing suicide was written in her > > destiny. No astrologer is rascal, // > > > > This is amusing observance on your part. belief or > > not in astrology, has got nothing to do with this. If one > > lady goes to Surgeon who is a quack and he takes > > out the wrong kidney which was actually working > > and had no malignancy, then would you call > > this her destiny, and not call the Doctor a rascal ? > > Avccording to you, the girl who is raped is her > > destiny, thatswhy we must not call the Rapist > > a rascal. Madam in all professions, there are > > rascals. In which world are you living ? > > > > Madam there is something known as " foolishness' which > > we must not do, by going to quacks. > > > > // No person can give grief to anybody, no person can > > give happiness to anybody, everything is got by one's > > Destiny; that is why it is not good to blame others. > > Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? // > > > > This is a good reading for Satsanga, but in actual living , > > this wll not work. Go and tell this to the policemen > > at the plice stations, and tell them that dont blame those > > who are behind bars, the persons who got > > affected by their crimes, all got their destinys worth. > > If the Doctor gives a wrong injection to > > your mother lying in the hospital , then would you > > take it as your destiny, and not say a word > > to the doctor ? So madam preaching and practise are > > 2 entire seperate banks of the river. Only > > the Great ones can make them meet. > > And we are not amongst those great, at the moment. > > > > Madam there is something known as " Nimitta " > > which is what all these people whom we call > > rascals are. We also know this is our destiny, but > > dont we yet do so many things which do not show that > > we use this knowledge in actual practise ? > > > > // Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > > wrote > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in fact > > I > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. // > > > > aap Sab jaante hain , kahna nahin chahte ,parantu phir > > bhi kahte hain. Bahut accha. > > > > // All that happened was > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... Kshamaa > > is > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't forget > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. // > > > > kshama achhi baat hai. > > But Krishna did kill kansa. Rama did kill ravana. > > The justice courts are still giving capital punishment > > even today. And all these people were/are not fools. > > Kshama (Forgiveness) must be there, uptil > > a limit, but not after that. One who cannot understand the > > language of kshama, must be made > > to see sense by any of the methods, > > Sama,Dama,Danda bhed. > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect you > > a > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > > > You seem to be a good person too I beleieve in all words you said > > above, including " everything is got by ones destiny " but for > > the good things as well as the bad things hapenning in our > > Lives, the nimittas are responsible, and when the bad things > happen, > > then > > we naturally point fingers at these nimittas. At good times we dont > > bother much, but enjoy the good times or hapennings. > > because I am going to hava a son in my destiny, does not mean > > that it will be born from the sky, the nimitta > > will be my marriage to a girl. And our physical union would be > > responsible for the same. Therefore Karma > > is pradhan. We cannoyt play the Damru of > > " Destiny " and just sit on the bed, That is akarmanyata, > > whereas we have to be in motion all the time involved > > in our regular duties. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > Sorry to interfere in astrologers' conversations; but being an > > > astgrologer, it seems that you yourself don't belive in > astrology. > > > Committing suicide was written in her destiny. No astrologer is > > > rascal, and can force anybody to commit suicide. Committing > > suicide > > > is not easy. I am sure there must be some Yog or Nakshatra which > > > force a person to committ suicide, everybody can't get such > > courage. > > > Even a prick of needle hurt people, leave committing suicide. So, > > > please, don't let your blood boil on such cases. > > > > > > No person can give grief to anybody, no person can give happiness > > to > > > anybody, everything is got by one's Destiny; that is why it is > not > > > good to blame others. Nothing happens outside of our fate. Even > > > Krishn had to suffer with blame, who are we? > > > > > > Sorry to write all this. I read all the nasty mails you people > > wrote > > > among yourselves, I wanted to write something about it, but in > > fact I > > > am nobody to comment on all that, just a user. All that happened > > was > > > not good - Kshamaa Badan ko Chaahiye, chhotan to Utpaat... > Kshamaa > > is > > > Dharm, Kshamaa is kindness, Kshamaa is everything - I don't > forget > > > Yudhishthir's dialogs in MBH serial. > > > > > > If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me, I respect > > you a > > > lot, you seem to be a very good person. > > > With regards > > > Sushma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Bhaskar Ji With my little knowledge I explain this to you - In fact no Mrityu is " A-kaal Mrityu " . In my opinion everything is written in fate according to his Karm. Devakee's 6 children did not die accidentally, or by A-Kaal Mrityu, or by that way. They died with their fate in that way. Mrityu is a general term for death, when our soul leaves our body that is called Mrityu which comes to everybody whao has taken b irth in this world. A-Kaal means which is not timely. And since this " Time " is a mortal or Saansaarik term, that is why this A-Kaal term is also Saansaarik, not the actual term. As you might be aware that according to Puraan etc a human being's age is considered as 100 years. So if one dies after 70 or 75, people do not take it seriously, and say " this man has lived has life " because they think that he has lived in this world for most of his allotted time. The same man, if he lives over 80, people get surprised because the man is really approaching his allotted age. A man who dies below 65 is called " Javaan Maut " , especially below 60. Although this is also not A-Kaal Mrityu in Saansaarik meaning. When someone dies below 50, that is called A-Kaal Mrityu. From the age of, say 2 years or so to especailly 30-40 years of age is called A-Kaal Mrityu, because he has not lived even his half of the allotted life. Otherwise there is no A-Kaal Mrityu, this term is only Saansaarik, not of fate. Fate is made up of our past Karm, so no one can change our fate, because, simple to say, nobody can change our past Karm, not even us ourselves. Jo kiyaa vah to bhugatanaa padegaa. Hope this explains. Even you have any question more, please do write to me, I will attempt to explain it to with my little knowledge. With regards Sushma , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > Dear sushmaji, > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > can guide me on this . > > 1) Mrityu > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > Can you guide me to the difference in > both these mrityus ? > Also let me know, whether both of thse > are destined ? > > rgrds, > Bhaskar. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Sushmaji, Of course akaal mrityu is before the kaal should have come, that is before the normal considered age in that partcular Yuga, if a person dies,it is known as akal mrityu. It is just like asamaanya, adharmic, amaanveeya, amanush, akarmany etc. It does not mean, without, but it means being out yet remaining in. FATE CAN BE CHANGED. But i will not discuss upon this here in this Forum. All these talks are a waste of time, before apaatras. If winning any argument is just all about it, then I am out. I have no questions to be answered . i learn as it comes, like a school boy. But You are very good at explanations and in Your knowledge. I appreciate it, no doubt about it. regards, Bhaskar. , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > With my little knowledge I explain this to you - > > In fact no Mrityu is " A-kaal Mrityu " . In my opinion everything is > written in fate according to his Karm. Devakee's 6 children did not > die accidentally, or by A-Kaal Mrityu, or by that way. They died with > their fate in that way. > > Mrityu is a general term for death, when our soul leaves our body > that is called Mrityu which comes to everybody whao has taken b irth > in this world. A-Kaal means which is not timely. And since > this " Time " is a mortal or Saansaarik term, that is why this A- Kaal > term is also Saansaarik, not the actual term. > > As you might be aware that according to Puraan etc a human being's > age is considered as 100 years. So if one dies after 70 or 75, people > do not take it seriously, and say " this man has lived has life " > because they think that he has lived in this world for most of his > allotted time. The same man, if he lives over 80, people get > surprised because the man is really approaching his allotted age. > > A man who dies below 65 is called " Javaan Maut " , especially below 60. > Although this is also not A-Kaal Mrityu in Saansaarik meaning. When > someone dies below 50, that is called A-Kaal Mrityu. From the age of, > say 2 years or so to especailly 30-40 years of age is called A- Kaal > Mrityu, because he has not lived even his half of the allotted life. > > Otherwise there is no A-Kaal Mrityu, this term is only Saansaarik, > not of fate. Fate is made up of our past Karm, so no one can change > our fate, because, simple to say, nobody can change our past Karm, > not even us ourselves. Jo kiyaa vah to bhugatanaa padegaa. > > Hope this explains. Even you have any question more, please do write > to me, I will attempt to explain it to with my little knowledge. > With regards > Sushma > > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > can guide me on this . > > > > 1) Mrityu > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > both these mrityus ? > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > are destined ? > > > > rgrds, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Niket Ji Knew your thoughts. I think you will have to consult dictionary to know the meaning of Mrityu. Mrityu does not mean - natural death. It is only death, not natural. I think, although I have not consulted anybody so I amy be wrong, natural death is when a person dies after the age of 80, without any illness, without any disaster, without any cause, because everybody has to go that is why he also has to go, but it should be without any reason. Whatever you wrote - illness, disaster, war, flood, terrorism - all these are the " Nimitta " or the means of the death not the death themselves. BECAUSE not all die in all these cases - what is that? Can you not foretell the people " How they will die? by drowning in water or by sickness or by accident, or by committing suicide? " or " Where they will die - in their homeland or in foreign land? " etc etc. What is that? I don't know Jyotish, but I believe in it as a science. I have not met even a good astrolger who is perfect in predicting everything about a person. I have met a few who predict one or two facts, but not all. It is a science. It cannot go wrong, simply, as other sciences, one should know it very well - which is not common now a days, because this is not practised as a Vidyaa, but a means of living. With regards Sushma , " astroiniket " <astroiniket wrote: > > bhaskarji, > In simple words:(what i understand) > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , governed by > planets) > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as per > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters included > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, when > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, but some > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > rgds > niket > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > can guide me on this . > > > > 1) Mrityu > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > both these mrityus ? > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > are destined ? > > > > rgrds, > > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Niket Ji I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the death, and the means by which it will happen, and where he will die. As I wrote you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers that thaey should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it may go wrong, then it will create a bad impression, and such predictions should be restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things to people. People get scared. Although they can warn them. With regards Sushma , " astroiniket " <astroiniket wrote: > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about unnatural death > or akal mritue. > > rgds > niket > , " astroiniket " > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > bhaskarji, > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is > > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , governed > by > > planets) > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as per > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters included > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, when > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, but > some > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > rgds > > niket > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > both these mrityus ? > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > are destined ? > > > > > > rgrds, > > > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear All, Sorry for interruption, agree 1 knowledgeable astrologer can predict the date and place of death. Trust me my grand father also predict his death of year and it was true. One site is there http://www.deathclock.com/, I don't know how accurate. Thank You. Best Rgds, Kapil , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > Dear Niket Ji > I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the death, and > the means by which it will happen, and where he will die. As I wrote > you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers that thaey > should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it may go wrong, > then it will create a bad impression, and such predictions should be > restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things to people. > People get scared. Although they can warn them. > > With regards > Sushma > > > , " astroiniket " > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about unnatural death > > or akal mritue. > > > > rgds > > niket > > , " astroiniket " > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > bhaskarji, > > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden > > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is > > > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , > governed > > by > > > planets) > > > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as > per > > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters > included > > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, > when > > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, but > > some > > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > > > rgds > > > niket > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > > both these mrityus ? > > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > > are destined ? > > > > > > > > rgrds, > > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Kapilaji, Yes I trust you. I personally know 3 astrologers who can do this. And not once. They can repeat this on as many charts. as given to them. rgds, Bhaskar. , " budhraja_kapil " <budhraja_kapil wrote: > > Dear All, > > Sorry for interruption, agree 1 knowledgeable astrologer can predict > the date and place of death. > > Trust me my grand father also predict his death of year and it was > true. > > One site is there http://www.deathclock.com/, I don't know how > accurate. > > Thank You. > > Best Rgds, > Kapil > > > , " bhagvatjee " > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > Dear Niket Ji > > I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the death, and > > the means by which it will happen, and where he will die. As I > wrote > > you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers that thaey > > should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it may go > wrong, > > then it will create a bad impression, and such predictions should > be > > restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things to people. > > People get scared. Although they can warn them. > > > > With regards > > Sushma > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about unnatural > death > > > or akal mritue. > > > > > > rgds > > > niket > > > , " astroiniket " > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > bhaskarji, > > > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or sudden > > > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age is > > > > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , > > governed > > > by > > > > planets) > > > > > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but as > > per > > > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters > > included > > > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and paristhity, > > when > > > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, > but > > > some > > > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > > > > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > niket > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > > > both these mrityus ? > > > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > > > are destined ? > > > > > > > > > > rgrds, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 i never say a astrologer can not pridict natural death time, yes no one can pridict Akaal Mritu (death before Time. if any one can claim for that i have 6 horoscope pls let me know who is alive or not. and who died - natural or akaal mrtue. rgds niket , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > Dear Kapilaji, > > Yes I trust you. > I personally know 3 astrologers who can > do this. > And not once. They can repeat this > on as many charts. as given to them. > > rgds, > Bhaskar. > > > > , " budhraja_kapil " > <budhraja_kapil@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Sorry for interruption, agree 1 knowledgeable astrologer can > predict > > the date and place of death. > > > > Trust me my grand father also predict his death of year and it was > > true. > > > > One site is there http://www.deathclock.com/, I don't know how > > accurate. > > > > Thank You. > > > > Best Rgds, > > Kapil > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Niket Ji > > > I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the death, > and > > > the means by which it will happen, and where he will die. As I > > wrote > > > you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers that > thaey > > > should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it may go > > wrong, > > > then it will create a bad impression, and such predictions > should > > be > > > restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things to > people. > > > People get scared. Although they can warn them. > > > > > > With regards > > > Sushma > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about unnatural > > death > > > > or akal mritue. > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > niket > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > bhaskarji, > > > > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > > > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or > sudden > > > > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age > is > > > > > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , > > > governed > > > > by > > > > > planets) > > > > > > > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, but > as > > > per > > > > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters > > > included > > > > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and > paristhity, > > > when > > > > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > > > > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs life, > > but > > > > some > > > > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > > > > > > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > > > > both these mrityus ? > > > > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > > > > are destined ? > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Biketji kahan in faaltu logon se bahas karte ho ? yeh sab fake ids hai aapko aur hamko bahaar fekne ke liye. Jaanam samjha karo. Dont waste time on them. rgrds/Bhaskar. , " astroiniket " <astroiniket wrote: > > i never say a astrologer can not pridict natural death time, yes no > one can pridict Akaal Mritu (death before Time. > > if any one can claim for that i have 6 horoscope pls let me know who > is alive or not. and who died - natural or akaal mrtue. > > rgds > niket > > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kapilaji, > > > > Yes I trust you. > > I personally know 3 astrologers who can > > do this. > > And not once. They can repeat this > > on as many charts. as given to them. > > > > rgds, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " budhraja_kapil " > > <budhraja_kapil@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Sorry for interruption, agree 1 knowledgeable astrologer can > > predict > > > the date and place of death. > > > > > > Trust me my grand father also predict his death of year and it > was > > > true. > > > > > > One site is there http://www.deathclock.com/, I don't know how > > > accurate. > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > Best Rgds, > > > Kapil > > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Niket Ji > > > > I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the death, > > and > > > > the means by which it will happen, and where he will die. As I > > > wrote > > > > you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers that > > thaey > > > > should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it may go > > > wrong, > > > > then it will create a bad impression, and such predictions > > should > > > be > > > > restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things to > > people. > > > > People get scared. Although they can warn them. > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > Sushma > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about unnatural > > > death > > > > > or akal mritue. > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > niket > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskarji, > > > > > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > > > > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or > > sudden > > > > > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when age > > is > > > > > > completed it may completed in any age(can be calculated , > > > > governed > > > > > by > > > > > > planets) > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, > but > > as > > > > per > > > > > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural disasters > > > > included > > > > > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and > > paristhity, > > > > when > > > > > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > > > > > > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs > life, > > > but > > > > > some > > > > > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through it. > > > > > > > > > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > > > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > > > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > > > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > > > > > both these mrityus ? > > > > > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > > > > > are destined ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Bhaskar Sir - Request you to pl. sabhi id's of fake id matt samjho. I know you are master in this field, hum to aap ke bacahe hai. Rgds, Kapil , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > Biketji kahan in faaltu logon se bahas > karte ho ? yeh sab fake ids hai aapko > aur hamko bahaar fekne ke liye. > Jaanam samjha karo. Dont waste time > on them. > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > , " astroiniket " > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > i never say a astrologer can not pridict natural death time, yes > no > > one can pridict Akaal Mritu (death before Time. > > > > if any one can claim for that i have 6 horoscope pls let me know > who > > is alive or not. and who died - natural or akaal mrtue. > > > > rgds > > niket > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kapilaji, > > > > > > Yes I trust you. > > > I personally know 3 astrologers who can > > > do this. > > > And not once. They can repeat this > > > on as many charts. as given to them. > > > > > > rgds, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " budhraja_kapil " > > > <budhraja_kapil@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Sorry for interruption, agree 1 knowledgeable astrologer can > > > predict > > > > the date and place of death. > > > > > > > > Trust me my grand father also predict his death of year and it > > was > > > > true. > > > > > > > > One site is there http://www.deathclock.com/, I don't know how > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > Best Rgds, > > > > Kapil > > > > > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Niket Ji > > > > > I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the > death, > > > and > > > > > the means by which it will happen, and where he will die. As > I > > > > wrote > > > > > you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers > that > > > thaey > > > > > should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it may > go > > > > wrong, > > > > > then it will create a bad impression, and such predictions > > > should > > > > be > > > > > restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things to > > > people. > > > > > People get scared. Although they can warn them. > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > Sushma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about > unnatural > > > > death > > > > > > or akal mritue. > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > niket > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskarji, > > > > > > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > > > > > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or > > > sudden > > > > > > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when > age > > > is > > > > > > > completed it may completed in any age(can be > calculated , > > > > > governed > > > > > > by > > > > > > > planets) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, > > but > > > as > > > > > per > > > > > > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural > disasters > > > > > included > > > > > > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and > > > paristhity, > > > > > when > > > > > > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs > > life, > > > > but > > > > > > some > > > > > > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > > > > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > > > > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > > > > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > > > > > > both these mrityus ? > > > > > > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > > > > > > are destined ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Bhai kapilji, Hum aapki baat kahinbhi nahin kar rahe toh phir aap gulity kyon feel kar rahe ho? Aur aapne hame underestimate kiya, Hum toh jis field mein ghus jaate hain,jahan par kadam rakh dete hain, wahan ke grandmaster ban jate hain, master nahin. accha ab hamko chalna chahiye. Bhaskar. , " budhraja_kapil " <budhraja_kapil wrote: > > Bhaskar Sir - Request you to pl. sabhi id's of fake id matt samjho. > > I know you are master in this field, hum to aap ke bacahe hai. > > Rgds, > Kapil > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Biketji kahan in faaltu logon se bahas > > karte ho ? yeh sab fake ids hai aapko > > aur hamko bahaar fekne ke liye. > > Jaanam samjha karo. Dont waste time > > on them. > > > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > i never say a astrologer can not pridict natural death time, yes > > no > > > one can pridict Akaal Mritu (death before Time. > > > > > > if any one can claim for that i have 6 horoscope pls let me know > > who > > > is alive or not. and who died - natural or akaal mrtue. > > > > > > rgds > > > niket > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kapilaji, > > > > > > > > Yes I trust you. > > > > I personally know 3 astrologers who can > > > > do this. > > > > And not once. They can repeat this > > > > on as many charts. as given to them. > > > > > > > > rgds, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " budhraja_kapil " > > > > <budhraja_kapil@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for interruption, agree 1 knowledgeable astrologer can > > > > predict > > > > > the date and place of death. > > > > > > > > > > Trust me my grand father also predict his death of year and > it > > > was > > > > > true. > > > > > > > > > > One site is there http://www.deathclock.com/, I don't know > how > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > Best Rgds, > > > > > Kapil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > > > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Niket Ji > > > > > > I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the > > death, > > > > and > > > > > > the means by which it will happen, and where he will die. > As > > I > > > > > wrote > > > > > > you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers > > that > > > > thaey > > > > > > should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it may > > go > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > then it will create a bad impression, and such predictions > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things to > > > > people. > > > > > > People get scared. Although they can warn them. > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > Sushma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about > > unnatural > > > > > death > > > > > > > or akal mritue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > niket > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > > > > > > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or > > > > sudden > > > > > > > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when > > age > > > > is > > > > > > > > completed it may completed in any age(can be > > calculated , > > > > > > governed > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > planets) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside > happen, > > > but > > > > as > > > > > > per > > > > > > > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural > > disasters > > > > > > included > > > > > > > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and > > > > paristhity, > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs > > > life, > > > > > but > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > > > > > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > > > > > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > > > > > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > > > > > > > both these mrityus ? > > > > > > > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > > > > > > > are destined ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds, > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Kapil bhai, You said true that Bhaskar is the master of making fake id's.No one can comparison to him in this field. Good wishes Ratnaakar budhraja_kapil <budhraja_kapil wrote: Bhaskar Sir - Request you to pl. sabhi id's of fake id matt samjho. I know you are master in this field, hum to aap ke bacahe hai. Rgds, Kapil , " Bhaskar " wrote: > > Biketji kahan in faaltu logon se bahas > karte ho ? yeh sab fake ids hai aapko > aur hamko bahaar fekne ke liye. > Jaanam samjha karo. Dont waste time > on them. > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > , " astroiniket " > wrote: > > > > i never say a astrologer can not pridict natural death time, yes > no > > one can pridict Akaal Mritu (death before Time. > > > > if any one can claim for that i have 6 horoscope pls let me know > who > > is alive or not. and who died - natural or akaal mrtue. > > > > rgds > > niket > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kapilaji, > > > > > > Yes I trust you. > > > I personally know 3 astrologers who can > > > do this. > > > And not once. They can repeat this > > > on as many charts. as given to them. > > > > > > rgds, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " budhraja_kapil " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Sorry for interruption, agree 1 knowledgeable astrologer can > > > predict > > > > the date and place of death. > > > > > > > > Trust me my grand father also predict his death of year and it > > was > > > > true. > > > > > > > > One site is there http://www.deathclock.com/, I don't know how > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > Best Rgds, > > > > Kapil > > > > > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Niket Ji > > > > > I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the > death, > > > and > > > > > the means by which it will happen, and where he will die. As > I > > > > wrote > > > > > you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers > that > > > thaey > > > > > should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it may > go > > > > wrong, > > > > > then it will create a bad impression, and such predictions > > > should > > > > be > > > > > restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things to > > > people. > > > > > People get scared. Although they can warn them. > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > Sushma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about > unnatural > > > > death > > > > > > or akal mritue. > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > niket > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskarji, > > > > > > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > > > > > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, or > > > sudden > > > > > > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly when > age > > > is > > > > > > > completed it may completed in any age(can be > calculated , > > > > > governed > > > > > > by > > > > > > > planets) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside happen, > > but > > > as > > > > > per > > > > > > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural > disasters > > > > > included > > > > > > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and > > > paristhity, > > > > > when > > > > > > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 hrs > > life, > > > > but > > > > > > some > > > > > > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make through > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > > > > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > > > > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > > > > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > > > > > > both these mrityus ? > > > > > > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > > > > > > are destined ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Thanks and noted sir and sorry if you feel I underestimate you. Good Night! Rgds, Kapil , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > Bhai kapilji, > > Hum aapki baat kahinbhi nahin kar rahe > toh phir aap gulity kyon feel kar rahe ho? > Aur aapne hame underestimate kiya, > Hum toh jis field mein ghus > jaate hain,jahan par kadam rakh dete hain, > wahan ke grandmaster ban jate hain, > master nahin. > > accha ab hamko chalna chahiye. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " budhraja_kapil " > <budhraja_kapil@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar Sir - Request you to pl. sabhi id's of fake id matt samjho. > > > > I know you are master in this field, hum to aap ke bacahe hai. > > > > Rgds, > > Kapil > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > Biketji kahan in faaltu logon se bahas > > > karte ho ? yeh sab fake ids hai aapko > > > aur hamko bahaar fekne ke liye. > > > Jaanam samjha karo. Dont waste time > > > on them. > > > > > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > i never say a astrologer can not pridict natural death time, > yes > > > no > > > > one can pridict Akaal Mritu (death before Time. > > > > > > > > if any one can claim for that i have 6 horoscope pls let me > know > > > who > > > > is alive or not. and who died - natural or akaal mrtue. > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kapilaji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes I trust you. > > > > > I personally know 3 astrologers who can > > > > > do this. > > > > > And not once. They can repeat this > > > > > on as many charts. as given to them. > > > > > > > > > > rgds, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " budhraja_kapil " > > > > > <budhraja_kapil@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for interruption, agree 1 knowledgeable astrologer > can > > > > > predict > > > > > > the date and place of death. > > > > > > > > > > > > Trust me my grand father also predict his death of year > and > > it > > > > was > > > > > > true. > > > > > > > > > > > > One site is there http://www.deathclock.com/, I don't know > > how > > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Rgds, > > > > > > Kapil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " bhagvatjee " > > > > > > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Niket Ji > > > > > > > I think, it is wrong, a good astrologer can predict the > > > death, > > > > > and > > > > > > > the means by which it will happen, and where he will > die. > > As > > > I > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > you in my earlier mail. BUT it is advised to astrologers > > > that > > > > > thaey > > > > > > > should not tell this to the person, SIMPLY BECAUSE, it > may > > > go > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > then it will create a bad impression, and such > predictions > > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > restrained. Just because they should not tell bad things > to > > > > > people. > > > > > > > People get scared. Although they can warn them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > Sushma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just addition - in my view no one can pridict about > > > unnatural > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > or akal mritue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > --- In , " astroiniket " > > > > > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > In simple words:(what i understand) > > > > > > > > > 1. Mritu:(natural death)- if happen by some illness, > or > > > > > sudden > > > > > > > > > without any known cause called Mritue or naturaly > when > > > age > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > completed it may completed in any age(can be > > > calculated , > > > > > > > governed > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > planets) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. AkalMritu:- when some accident happen, suside > > happen, > > > > but > > > > > as > > > > > > > per > > > > > > > > > planets age is remaining, it depends on Natural > > > disasters > > > > > > > included > > > > > > > > > war or terrorism etc. purely base on desh kaal and > > > > > paristhity, > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > deth come in mass distruction , you can include that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for example : A candle you lite , it have avrage 2 > hrs > > > > life, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > chield blow air, or storm come or some one make > through > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i may be wrong but this is my opinion and thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sushmaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of 2 terms ,but do not > > > > > > > > > > know the meaning exactly, and hope you > > > > > > > > > > can guide me on this . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Mrityu > > > > > > > > > > 2) Akaal mrityu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guide me to the difference in > > > > > > > > > > both these mrityus ? > > > > > > > > > > Also let me know, whether both of thse > > > > > > > > > > are destined ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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