Birth Data of Celebreties required 20/2

[Guest guest]

Bhaskar

 

though I had long stopped reading ur mails this one alone I felt I cud try with

less risk of loosing peace of mind

 

NO NONE OF MY MAILS ARE ANY WAY DIRECTED AT U the ones u quoted as u r not the

only one using them, THERE R MANY AND MORE IN REPLY TO SUMIT ALONE.

 

 

I hope u remember last yrs case

 

ur chela Tarun who quoted a friend wanted to become a singer and later he

himself said there r no combinations for one and later said she is Britney

spears

 

to which also I replied it same way too so with other celebrities

 

I HAD QUOTED FROM A FEW SITES THAT BRITNEY 's is shown as born in four different

states at same data, where USA has so many time zones 4 regular one and 4 for

alaska when we consider minutes at times too important

 

I have cast horoscopes for many professional astrologers who did not have

computers since 1989 and have access to such data BUT morally it is unethical to

even say who it was as they were always printed with no name

 

I had written a software where I can input data and mask all details even birth

place, lat long also for such professionals as trust is a big word here

i had writen s/w and also helped many write s/w for free from 1986 onwards.

 

I STOPPED further development after Visual Jyotish, parashara light etc came

around. AS MY PRODUCT wud have done same work

TESTING S/W IS MORE difficult THAN WRITING

 

even NOW i USE A FEW S/w TO CHECK AND USE THEM AS A HABIT, than blame a wrong

s/w or a bug for any errors.

 

today most astrologers use some s/w or other so it is a blessing to the subject

that technology saves time for professionals and students alike , save time and

do some research

 

excepts SACHIN TENDULKARS' DATA that was given by PP y'day most of them r

untested

 

sachins seems ok as seen from astrological magazine when he was just a normal

being I have used it as well and had discussions with prafulla and others on his

good and bad days and have found it working

 

dravid, seems fairly ok from one ref prafulla gave me in which I had said he

will

 

be injured and miss the last wc, though he as injured he did play in WC

 

both him and saurav I said will loose grace after May 07, SACHIN WILL RECOVER

FORM AND RETIRE ANYTIME AFTER SEPT 08 in style

 

THESE R BASED ON THE DATA SHARED BY FELLOW MEMBERS AND ASTRO MAG, data used is

when not big people

 

RAHUL AND PRIYANKA GANDHI WILL BE MOST RIsKY DATA FOR ANYONE TO WORK ON

 

remember what i write is for astrology's sake nothing angains or for anyone.

 

subject is supreme and not the operators

 

that is why time and again just not me even Wendy have lauded parasharis works

as they work for all times if applied in the right way it has room for

improvement not tinkering too mych if some one like Wendy from a different

culture , religion also use it well then it proves it validity over other

systems

is always my or her point

 

nothing personal again here. rest is up to u to make up or conjure what I HAVE

NOT SAID.

 

my commitments r still there so can't take too much readings still as u see till

now i am on off in groups

 

 

best wishes

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: Dear

Prashant GB ji ,

 

Good mail. I agree with this.

No celebrity's data is authentic

or reliable unless the astrologer is

personally an astrologer of that

celebrity. If You have sent this mail to

Mr sumit suggesting him

that my data is not

reliable then i wholly agree with you.

the person who studies these datas

has to personally re-check these datas

before working on these.

 

Another mail you sent in Vedic astrology group

about Kaul and one more person regarding Indian

astrology , when they were talking rubbish,

that Indian vedic astrology is borrowed from Egypt

( Or was it some other country ???)

that too was appreciated by me.

One mail in Jyotish group directed towards me

regarding short cut methods

was of course not appreciated by me,

for I have learnt a good deal

of the Parashari method before indulging in

short cut methods, which every astrologer if he

is a good one, must know,when he is expected

to reply without panchang, and normal

tools of data, which are available

when he is at home.

 

Though you have been caustic towards my daughters

marriage, and probably not wished it good,

but i dont care. I am not living

on blessings of you people, but by Gods grace.

 

I enjoy freedom of expression,

and am large hearted and noble

enough to appreciate whenever it is warranted,

and hence appreciated, your above 2 mails,

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Sumit,

>

> It is nice to see u back after a few months break I guess, though

I have not been regular in the group either due to personal

commitments [construction at home for all my siblings]

>

> WELL this request is a good one but is a slippery one

>

> NO CELEBRITY's DATA IS RELIABLE, in the public domain.

>

> they approach several astrologers and treat their visit itself as

a HONOR, many don't care to pay for the same reason, WILL TAKE AS

MANY VIEWS AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO TINKER WITH BIRTH DATA TO SEE WHAT

WILL HAPPEN if they changed and gave it may be they will get to hear

what they want when some serious astrologers gives them a factual

than fantasy case reading.

>

> what is circulated is mostly for gossip and entertainment, may not

help us and sure some of us have seen celebrities in a few fields on

a personal level and without their consent may not be able to share

them in public just as u wud recall RR doing it a few months ago on

a similar case he referred but did not give birth data, just some

info from a pouplar chart.

>

> some can be shared privately than in public.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000

wrote: Dear All,

>

> Could anyone send the *birth details of celebreties* including

sportsman,

> bollywood actors and actresses, politicians, corporate biggies,

and all the

> others big names that we can take. Whatever can be shared i will

love to

> have the data of celebrities.

>

> I am using Jagannath Hora for casting charts. So if anyone having

charts

> saved in jhd format , it can be directly attached or uploaded

somewhere in

> the web, else only date time and place of birth may be provided

in a

> database, etc

>

> Will be very helpful.

>

> Awaiting a quick response.

>

> Thanx & Regards

>

> Sumit Bajaj

> Contact: +91-98300-84593

>

>

[Guest guest]

Prashantjee,

 

You are absolutely correct that data are not authentic.

 

Another thing, Your statement " subject is supreme and not the operators " is

really amazing. It really extracts the essence in a line.

 

Well, as far as data are concerned lets try to work on the data whatever we

have and cross check on the authenticity of it.

 

Thanx again.

 

 

 

On 20/03/2008, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar

>

> though I had long stopped reading ur mails this one alone I felt I cud try

> with less risk of loosing peace of mind

>

> NO NONE OF MY MAILS ARE ANY WAY DIRECTED AT U the ones u quoted as u r not

> the only one using them, THERE R MANY AND MORE IN REPLY TO SUMIT ALONE.

>

> I hope u remember last yrs case

>

> ur chela Tarun who quoted a friend wanted to become a singer and later he

> himself said there r no combinations for one and later said she is Britney

> spears

>

> to which also I replied it same way too so with other celebrities

>

> I HAD QUOTED FROM A FEW SITES THAT BRITNEY 's is shown as born in four

> different states at same data, where USA has so many time zones 4 regular

> one and 4 for alaska when we consider minutes at times too important

>

> I have cast horoscopes for many professional astrologers who did not have

> computers since 1989 and have access to such data BUT morally it is

> unethical to even say who it was as they were always printed with no name

>

> I had written a software where I can input data and mask all details even

> birth place, lat long also for such professionals as trust is a big word

> here

> i had writen s/w and also helped many write s/w for free from 1986

> onwards.

>

> I STOPPED further development after Visual Jyotish, parashara light etc

> came around. AS MY PRODUCT wud have done same work

> TESTING S/W IS MORE difficult THAN WRITING

>

> even NOW i USE A FEW S/w TO CHECK AND USE THEM AS A HABIT, than blame a

> wrong s/w or a bug for any errors.

>

> today most astrologers use some s/w or other so it is a blessing to the

> subject that technology saves time for professionals and students alike ,

> save time and do some research

>

> excepts SACHIN TENDULKARS' DATA that was given by PP y'day most of them r

> untested

>

> sachins seems ok as seen from astrological magazine when he was just a

> normal being I have used it as well and had discussions with prafulla and

> others on his good and bad days and have found it working

>

> dravid, seems fairly ok from one ref prafulla gave me in which I had said

> he will

>

> be injured and miss the last wc, though he as injured he did play in WC

>

> both him and saurav I said will loose grace after May 07, SACHIN WILL

> RECOVER FORM AND RETIRE ANYTIME AFTER SEPT 08 in style

>

> THESE R BASED ON THE DATA SHARED BY FELLOW MEMBERS AND ASTRO MAG, data

> used is when not big people

>

> RAHUL AND PRIYANKA GANDHI WILL BE MOST RIsKY DATA FOR ANYONE TO WORK ON

>

> remember what i write is for astrology's sake nothing angains or for

> anyone.

>

> subject is supreme and not the operators

>

> that is why time and again just not me even Wendy have lauded parasharis

> works as they work for all times if applied in the right way it has room for

> improvement not tinkering too mych if some one like Wendy from a different

> culture , religion also use it well then it proves it validity over other

> systems

> is always my or her point

>

> nothing personal again here. rest is up to u to make up or conjure what I

> HAVE NOT SAID.

>

> my commitments r still there so can't take too much readings still as u

> see till now i am on off in groups

>

> best wishes

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises <rajiventerprises%40hathway.com>>

> wrote: Dear Prashant GB ji ,

>

> Good mail. I agree with this.

> No celebrity's data is authentic

> or reliable unless the astrologer is

> personally an astrologer of that

> celebrity. If You have sent this mail to

> Mr sumit suggesting him

> that my data is not

> reliable then i wholly agree with you.

> the person who studies these datas

> has to personally re-check these datas

> before working on these.

>

> Another mail you sent in Vedic astrology group

> about Kaul and one more person regarding Indian

> astrology , when they were talking rubbish,

> that Indian vedic astrology is borrowed from Egypt

> ( Or was it some other country ???)

> that too was appreciated by me.

> One mail in Jyotish group directed towards me

> regarding short cut methods

> was of course not appreciated by me,

> for I have learnt a good deal

> of the Parashari method before indulging in

> short cut methods, which every astrologer if he

> is a good one, must know,when he is expected

> to reply without panchang, and normal

> tools of data, which are available

> when he is at home.

>

> Though you have been caustic towards my daughters

> marriage, and probably not wished it good,

> but i dont care. I am not living

> on blessings of you people, but by Gods grace.

>

> I enjoy freedom of expression,

> and am large hearted and noble

> enough to appreciate whenever it is warranted,

> and hence appreciated, your above 2 mails,

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> <%40>,

> Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sumit,

> >

> > It is nice to see u back after a few months break I guess, though

> I have not been regular in the group either due to personal

> commitments [construction at home for all my siblings]

> >

> > WELL this request is a good one but is a slippery one

> >

> > NO CELEBRITY's DATA IS RELIABLE, in the public domain.

> >

> > they approach several astrologers and treat their visit itself as

> a HONOR, many don't care to pay for the same reason, WILL TAKE AS

> MANY VIEWS AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO TINKER WITH BIRTH DATA TO SEE WHAT

> WILL HAPPEN if they changed and gave it may be they will get to hear

> what they want when some serious astrologers gives them a factual

> than fantasy case reading.

> >

> > what is circulated is mostly for gossip and entertainment, may not

> help us and sure some of us have seen celebrities in a few fields on

> a personal level and without their consent may not be able to share

> them in public just as u wud recall RR doing it a few months ago on

> a similar case he referred but did not give birth data, just some

> info from a pouplar chart.

> >

> > some can be shared privately than in public.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000

> wrote: Dear All,

> >

> > Could anyone send the *birth details of celebreties* including

> sportsman,

> > bollywood actors and actresses, politicians, corporate biggies,

> and all the

> > others big names that we can take. Whatever can be shared i will

> love to

> > have the data of celebrities.

> >

> > I am using Jagannath Hora for casting charts. So if anyone having

> charts

> > saved in jhd format , it can be directly attached or uploaded

> somewhere in

> > the web, else only date time and place of birth may be provided

> in a

> > database, etc

> >

> > Will be very helpful.

> >

> > Awaiting a quick response.

> >

> > Thanx & Regards

> >

> > Sumit Bajaj

> > Contact: +91-98300-84593

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant GB ji,

 

All points well taken, except

" Tarunji is Your chela " .

 

He may have liked my astrological approach

but certainly he would be no ones chela as far

as I have realised through his postings.

 

Have not seen him posting for last few months,

and I do not know about him, more than

you do,or we all do, otherwise too.

 

Hope this clears any misunderstanding,

if any.

 

I hope you are able to actively

work here, very soon. Many enquiries coming here,

and its too much for me to take them.

because I am lossing out on my duties towards

my Professional work and family, due to

spending extra time here.

 

The Forum would well, if you are

able to work actively here.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar

>

> though I had long stopped reading ur mails this one alone I felt I

cud try with less risk of loosing peace of mind

>

> NO NONE OF MY MAILS ARE ANY WAY DIRECTED AT U the ones u quoted as

u r not the only one using them, THERE R MANY AND MORE IN REPLY TO

SUMIT ALONE.

>

>

> I hope u remember last yrs case

>

> ur chela Tarun who quoted a friend wanted to become a singer and

later he himself said there r no combinations for one and later said

she is Britney spears

>

> to which also I replied it same way too so with other celebrities

>

> I HAD QUOTED FROM A FEW SITES THAT BRITNEY 's is shown as born in

four different states at same data, where USA has so many time zones

4 regular one and 4 for alaska when we consider minutes at times

too important

>

> I have cast horoscopes for many professional astrologers who did

not have computers since 1989 and have access to such data BUT

morally it is unethical to even say who it was as they were always

printed with no name

>

> I had written a software where I can input data and mask all

details even birth place, lat long also for such professionals as

trust is a big word here

> i had writen s/w and also helped many write s/w for free from 1986

onwards.

>

> I STOPPED further development after Visual Jyotish, parashara

light etc came around. AS MY PRODUCT wud have done same work

> TESTING S/W IS MORE difficult THAN WRITING

>

> even NOW i USE A FEW S/w TO CHECK AND USE THEM AS A HABIT, than

blame a wrong s/w or a bug for any errors.

>

> today most astrologers use some s/w or other so it is a blessing

to the subject that technology saves time for professionals and

students alike , save time and do some research

>

> excepts SACHIN TENDULKARS' DATA that was given by PP y'day most of

them r untested

>

> sachins seems ok as seen from astrological magazine when he was

just a normal being I have used it as well and had discussions with

prafulla and others on his good and bad days and have found it

working

>

> dravid, seems fairly ok from one ref prafulla gave me in which I

had said he will

>

> be injured and miss the last wc, though he as injured he did play

in WC

>

> both him and saurav I said will loose grace after May 07, SACHIN

WILL RECOVER FORM AND RETIRE ANYTIME AFTER SEPT 08 in style

>

> THESE R BASED ON THE DATA SHARED BY FELLOW MEMBERS AND ASTRO MAG,

data used is when not big people

>

> RAHUL AND PRIYANKA GANDHI WILL BE MOST RIsKY DATA FOR ANYONE TO

WORK ON

>

> remember what i write is for astrology's sake nothing angains or

for anyone.

>

> subject is supreme and not the operators

>

> that is why time and again just not me even Wendy have lauded

parasharis works as they work for all times if applied in the right

way it has room for improvement not tinkering too mych if some one

like Wendy from a different culture , religion also use it well then

it proves it validity over other systems

> is always my or her point

>

> nothing personal again here. rest is up to u to make up or conjure

what I HAVE NOT SAID.

>

> my commitments r still there so can't take too much readings still

as u see till now i am on off in groups

>

>

> best wishes

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

Dear Prashant GB ji ,

>

> Good mail. I agree with this.

> No celebrity's data is authentic

> or reliable unless the astrologer is

> personally an astrologer of that

> celebrity. If You have sent this mail to

> Mr sumit suggesting him

> that my data is not

> reliable then i wholly agree with you.

> the person who studies these datas

> has to personally re-check these datas

> before working on these.

>

> Another mail you sent in Vedic astrology group

> about Kaul and one more person regarding Indian

> astrology , when they were talking rubbish,

> that Indian vedic astrology is borrowed from Egypt

> ( Or was it some other country ???)

> that too was appreciated by me.

> One mail in Jyotish group directed towards me

> regarding short cut methods

> was of course not appreciated by me,

> for I have learnt a good deal

> of the Parashari method before indulging in

> short cut methods, which every astrologer if he

> is a good one, must know,when he is expected

> to reply without panchang, and normal

> tools of data, which are available

> when he is at home.

>

> Though you have been caustic towards my daughters

> marriage, and probably not wished it good,

> but i dont care. I am not living

> on blessings of you people, but by Gods grace.

>

> I enjoy freedom of expression,

> and am large hearted and noble

> enough to appreciate whenever it is warranted,

> and hence appreciated, your above 2 mails,

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sumit,

> >

> > It is nice to see u back after a few months break I guess,

though

> I have not been regular in the group either due to personal

> commitments [construction at home for all my siblings]

> >

> > WELL this request is a good one but is a slippery one

> >

> > NO CELEBRITY's DATA IS RELIABLE, in the public domain.

> >

> > they approach several astrologers and treat their visit itself

as

> a HONOR, many don't care to pay for the same reason, WILL TAKE AS

> MANY VIEWS AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO TINKER WITH BIRTH DATA TO SEE

WHAT

> WILL HAPPEN if they changed and gave it may be they will get to

hear

> what they want when some serious astrologers gives them a factual

> than fantasy case reading.

> >

> > what is circulated is mostly for gossip and entertainment, may

not

> help us and sure some of us have seen celebrities in a few fields

on

> a personal level and without their consent may not be able to

share

> them in public just as u wud recall RR doing it a few months ago

on

> a similar case he referred but did not give birth data, just some

> info from a pouplar chart.

> >

> > some can be shared privately than in public.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000@>

> wrote: Dear All,

> >

> > Could anyone send the *birth details of celebreties* including

> sportsman,

> > bollywood actors and actresses, politicians, corporate

biggies,

> and all the

> > others big names that we can take. Whatever can be shared i

will

> love to

> > have the data of celebrities.

> >

> > I am using Jagannath Hora for casting charts. So if anyone

having

> charts

> > saved in jhd format , it can be directly attached or uploaded

> somewhere in

> > the web, else only date time and place of birth may be

provided

> in a

> > database, etc

> >

> > Will be very helpful.

> >

> > Awaiting a quick response.

> >

> > Thanx & Regards

> >

> > Sumit Bajaj

> > Contact: +91-98300-84593

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant ji,

 

you always make me laugh.

 

Thanks for that

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar

>

> though I had long stopped reading ur mails this one alone I felt I

cud try with less risk of loosing peace of mind

>

> NO NONE OF MY MAILS ARE ANY WAY DIRECTED AT U the ones u quoted as

u r not the only one using them, THERE R MANY AND MORE IN REPLY TO

SUMIT ALONE.

>

>

> I hope u remember last yrs case

>

> ur chela Tarun who quoted a friend wanted to become a singer and

later he himself said there r no combinations for one and later said

she is Britney spears

>

> to which also I replied it same way too so with other celebrities

>

> I HAD QUOTED FROM A FEW SITES THAT BRITNEY 's is shown as born in

four different states at same data, where USA has so many time zones

4 regular one and 4 for alaska when we consider minutes at times

too important

>

> I have cast horoscopes for many professional astrologers who did

not have computers since 1989 and have access to such data BUT

morally it is unethical to even say who it was as they were always

printed with no name

>

> I had written a software where I can input data and mask all

details even birth place, lat long also for such professionals as

trust is a big word here

> i had writen s/w and also helped many write s/w for free from 1986

onwards.

>

> I STOPPED further development after Visual Jyotish, parashara

light etc came around. AS MY PRODUCT wud have done same work

> TESTING S/W IS MORE difficult THAN WRITING

>

> even NOW i USE A FEW S/w TO CHECK AND USE THEM AS A HABIT, than

blame a wrong s/w or a bug for any errors.

>

> today most astrologers use some s/w or other so it is a blessing

to the subject that technology saves time for professionals and

students alike , save time and do some research

>

> excepts SACHIN TENDULKARS' DATA that was given by PP y'day most of

them r untested

>

> sachins seems ok as seen from astrological magazine when he was

just a normal being I have used it as well and had discussions with

prafulla and others on his good and bad days and have found it

working

>

> dravid, seems fairly ok from one ref prafulla gave me in which I

had said he will

>

> be injured and miss the last wc, though he as injured he did play

in WC

>

> both him and saurav I said will loose grace after May 07, SACHIN

WILL RECOVER FORM AND RETIRE ANYTIME AFTER SEPT 08 in style

>

> THESE R BASED ON THE DATA SHARED BY FELLOW MEMBERS AND ASTRO MAG,

data used is when not big people

>

> RAHUL AND PRIYANKA GANDHI WILL BE MOST RIsKY DATA FOR ANYONE TO

WORK ON

>

> remember what i write is for astrology's sake nothing angains or

for anyone.

>

> subject is supreme and not the operators

>

> that is why time and again just not me even Wendy have lauded

parasharis works as they work for all times if applied in the right

way it has room for improvement not tinkering too mych if some one

like Wendy from a different culture , religion also use it well then

it proves it validity over other systems

> is always my or her point

>

> nothing personal again here. rest is up to u to make up or conjure

what I HAVE NOT SAID.

>

> my commitments r still there so can't take too much readings still

as u see till now i am on off in groups

>

>

> best wishes

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

Dear Prashant GB ji ,

>

> Good mail. I agree with this.

> No celebrity's data is authentic

> or reliable unless the astrologer is

> personally an astrologer of that

> celebrity. If You have sent this mail to

> Mr sumit suggesting him

> that my data is not

> reliable then i wholly agree with you.

> the person who studies these datas

> has to personally re-check these datas

> before working on these.

>

> Another mail you sent in Vedic astrology group

> about Kaul and one more person regarding Indian

> astrology , when they were talking rubbish,

> that Indian vedic astrology is borrowed from Egypt

> ( Or was it some other country ???)

> that too was appreciated by me.

> One mail in Jyotish group directed towards me

> regarding short cut methods

> was of course not appreciated by me,

> for I have learnt a good deal

> of the Parashari method before indulging in

> short cut methods, which every astrologer if he

> is a good one, must know,when he is expected

> to reply without panchang, and normal

> tools of data, which are available

> when he is at home.

>

> Though you have been caustic towards my daughters

> marriage, and probably not wished it good,

> but i dont care. I am not living

> on blessings of you people, but by Gods grace.

>

> I enjoy freedom of expression,

> and am large hearted and noble

> enough to appreciate whenever it is warranted,

> and hence appreciated, your above 2 mails,

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sumit,

> >

> > It is nice to see u back after a few months break I guess,

though

> I have not been regular in the group either due to personal

> commitments [construction at home for all my siblings]

> >

> > WELL this request is a good one but is a slippery one

> >

> > NO CELEBRITY's DATA IS RELIABLE, in the public domain.

> >

> > they approach several astrologers and treat their visit itself

as

> a HONOR, many don't care to pay for the same reason, WILL TAKE AS

> MANY VIEWS AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO TINKER WITH BIRTH DATA TO SEE

WHAT

> WILL HAPPEN if they changed and gave it may be they will get to

hear

> what they want when some serious astrologers gives them a factual

> than fantasy case reading.

> >

> > what is circulated is mostly for gossip and entertainment, may

not

> help us and sure some of us have seen celebrities in a few fields

on

> a personal level and without their consent may not be able to

share

> them in public just as u wud recall RR doing it a few months ago

on

> a similar case he referred but did not give birth data, just some

> info from a pouplar chart.

> >

> > some can be shared privately than in public.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000@>

> wrote: Dear All,

> >

> > Could anyone send the *birth details of celebreties* including

> sportsman,

> > bollywood actors and actresses, politicians, corporate

biggies,

> and all the

> > others big names that we can take. Whatever can be shared i

will

> love to

> > have the data of celebrities.

> >

> > I am using Jagannath Hora for casting charts. So if anyone

having

> charts

> > saved in jhd format , it can be directly attached or uploaded

> somewhere in

> > the web, else only date time and place of birth may be

provided

> in a

> > database, etc

> >

> > Will be very helpful.

> >

> > Awaiting a quick response.

> >

> > Thanx & Regards

> >

> > Sumit Bajaj

> > Contact: +91-98300-84593

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Bhai Tarunji,

 

Kahan ho itne saalon ke baad najar aaye

aap. Bhai yeh duniwale ajeeb hain,

Yaar aap rahte ho toh bhi mujhe phansaa

dete hain, nahin rahte ho, toh bhi

kuch bhalta likh kar, vivaad

khada kar dete hain..

 

Nice to see you after ages,

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " Tarun " <tarun_vst

wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant ji,

>

> you always make me laugh.

>

> Thanks for that

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar

> >

> > though I had long stopped reading ur mails this one alone I felt

I

> cud try with less risk of loosing peace of mind

> >

> > NO NONE OF MY MAILS ARE ANY WAY DIRECTED AT U the ones u quoted

as

> u r not the only one using them, THERE R MANY AND MORE IN REPLY TO

> SUMIT ALONE.

> >

> >

> > I hope u remember last yrs case

> >

> > ur chela Tarun who quoted a friend wanted to become a singer and

> later he himself said there r no combinations for one and later

said

> she is Britney spears

> >

> > to which also I replied it same way too so with other celebrities

> >

> > I HAD QUOTED FROM A FEW SITES THAT BRITNEY 's is shown as born

in

> four different states at same data, where USA has so many time

zones

> 4 regular one and 4 for alaska when we consider minutes at times

> too important

> >

> > I have cast horoscopes for many professional astrologers who did

> not have computers since 1989 and have access to such data BUT

> morally it is unethical to even say who it was as they were always

> printed with no name

> >

> > I had written a software where I can input data and mask all

> details even birth place, lat long also for such professionals as

> trust is a big word here

> > i had writen s/w and also helped many write s/w for free from

1986

> onwards.

> >

> > I STOPPED further development after Visual Jyotish, parashara

> light etc came around. AS MY PRODUCT wud have done same work

> > TESTING S/W IS MORE difficult THAN WRITING

> >

> > even NOW i USE A FEW S/w TO CHECK AND USE THEM AS A HABIT, than

> blame a wrong s/w or a bug for any errors.

> >

> > today most astrologers use some s/w or other so it is a blessing

> to the subject that technology saves time for professionals and

> students alike , save time and do some research

> >

> > excepts SACHIN TENDULKARS' DATA that was given by PP y'day most

of

> them r untested

> >

> > sachins seems ok as seen from astrological magazine when he was

> just a normal being I have used it as well and had discussions

with

> prafulla and others on his good and bad days and have found it

> working

> >

> > dravid, seems fairly ok from one ref prafulla gave me in which

I

> had said he will

> >

> > be injured and miss the last wc, though he as injured he did

play

> in WC

> >

> > both him and saurav I said will loose grace after May 07, SACHIN

> WILL RECOVER FORM AND RETIRE ANYTIME AFTER SEPT 08 in style

> >

> > THESE R BASED ON THE DATA SHARED BY FELLOW MEMBERS AND ASTRO

MAG,

> data used is when not big people

> >

> > RAHUL AND PRIYANKA GANDHI WILL BE MOST RIsKY DATA FOR ANYONE TO

> WORK ON

> >

> > remember what i write is for astrology's sake nothing angains or

> for anyone.

> >

> > subject is supreme and not the operators

> >

> > that is why time and again just not me even Wendy have lauded

> parasharis works as they work for all times if applied in the

right

> way it has room for improvement not tinkering too mych if some one

> like Wendy from a different culture , religion also use it well

then

> it proves it validity over other systems

> > is always my or her point

> >

> > nothing personal again here. rest is up to u to make up or

conjure

> what I HAVE NOT SAID.

> >

> > my commitments r still there so can't take too much readings

still

> as u see till now i am on off in groups

> >

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> Dear Prashant GB ji ,

> >

> > Good mail. I agree with this.

> > No celebrity's data is authentic

> > or reliable unless the astrologer is

> > personally an astrologer of that

> > celebrity. If You have sent this mail to

> > Mr sumit suggesting him

> > that my data is not

> > reliable then i wholly agree with you.

> > the person who studies these datas

> > has to personally re-check these datas

> > before working on these.

> >

> > Another mail you sent in Vedic astrology group

> > about Kaul and one more person regarding Indian

> > astrology , when they were talking rubbish,

> > that Indian vedic astrology is borrowed from Egypt

> > ( Or was it some other country ???)

> > that too was appreciated by me.

> > One mail in Jyotish group directed towards me

> > regarding short cut methods

> > was of course not appreciated by me,

> > for I have learnt a good deal

> > of the Parashari method before indulging in

> > short cut methods, which every astrologer if he

> > is a good one, must know,when he is expected

> > to reply without panchang, and normal

> > tools of data, which are available

> > when he is at home.

> >

> > Though you have been caustic towards my daughters

> > marriage, and probably not wished it good,

> > but i dont care. I am not living

> > on blessings of you people, but by Gods grace.

> >

> > I enjoy freedom of expression,

> > and am large hearted and noble

> > enough to appreciate whenever it is warranted,

> > and hence appreciated, your above 2 mails,

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sumit,

> > >

> > > It is nice to see u back after a few months break I guess,

> though

> > I have not been regular in the group either due to personal

> > commitments [construction at home for all my siblings]

> > >

> > > WELL this request is a good one but is a slippery one

> > >

> > > NO CELEBRITY's DATA IS RELIABLE, in the public domain.

> > >

> > > they approach several astrologers and treat their visit

itself

> as

> > a HONOR, many don't care to pay for the same reason, WILL TAKE

AS

> > MANY VIEWS AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO TINKER WITH BIRTH DATA TO SEE

> WHAT

> > WILL HAPPEN if they changed and gave it may be they will get to

> hear

> > what they want when some serious astrologers gives them a

factual

> > than fantasy case reading.

> > >

> > > what is circulated is mostly for gossip and entertainment,

may

> not

> > help us and sure some of us have seen celebrities in a few

fields

> on

> > a personal level and without their consent may not be able to

> share

> > them in public just as u wud recall RR doing it a few months

ago

> on

> > a similar case he referred but did not give birth data, just

some

> > info from a pouplar chart.

> > >

> > > some can be shared privately than in public.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000@>

> > wrote: Dear All,

> > >

> > > Could anyone send the *birth details of celebreties*

including

> > sportsman,

> > > bollywood actors and actresses, politicians, corporate

> biggies,

> > and all the

> > > others big names that we can take. Whatever can be shared i

> will

> > love to

> > > have the data of celebrities.

> > >

> > > I am using Jagannath Hora for casting charts. So if anyone

> having

> > charts

> > > saved in jhd format , it can be directly attached or

uploaded

> > somewhere in

> > > the web, else only date time and place of birth may be

> provided

> > in a

> > > database, etc

> > >

> > > Will be very helpful.

> > >

> > > Awaiting a quick response.

> > >

> > > Thanx & Regards

> > >

> > > Sumit Bajaj

> > > Contact: +91-98300-84593

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

 

Sir mei yahi hu, checking mails daily. But we have started our home

construction last november, so was busy in that. me being a civil

engineer to maximum time wahi jata hei aajkal.

 

Sir many people have habit to stretch old issues for long duration

of time. and so one of our friend started it again.

 

I have d with some keyword settings so any mail released

with my name comes to my mail box and so i got this mail also.

I do keep reading most of your mails, but due to lack of time i

donot start to take part in any of thread.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Bhai Tarunji,

>

> Kahan ho itne saalon ke baad najar aaye

> aap. Bhai yeh duniwale ajeeb hain,

> Yaar aap rahte ho toh bhi mujhe phansaa

> dete hain, nahin rahte ho, toh bhi

> kuch bhalta likh kar, vivaad

> khada kar dete hain..

>

> Nice to see you after ages,

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Tarun " <tarun_vst@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashant ji,

> >

> > you always make me laugh.

> >

> > Thanks for that

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar

> > >

> > > though I had long stopped reading ur mails this one alone I

felt

> I

> > cud try with less risk of loosing peace of mind

> > >

> > > NO NONE OF MY MAILS ARE ANY WAY DIRECTED AT U the ones u

quoted

> as

> > u r not the only one using them, THERE R MANY AND MORE IN REPLY

TO

> > SUMIT ALONE.

> > >

> > >

> > > I hope u remember last yrs case

> > >

> > > ur chela Tarun who quoted a friend wanted to become a singer

and

> > later he himself said there r no combinations for one and later

> said

> > she is Britney spears

> > >

> > > to which also I replied it same way too so with other

celebrities

> > >

> > > I HAD QUOTED FROM A FEW SITES THAT BRITNEY 's is shown as born

> in

> > four different states at same data, where USA has so many time

> zones

> > 4 regular one and 4 for alaska when we consider minutes at

times

> > too important

> > >

> > > I have cast horoscopes for many professional astrologers who

did

> > not have computers since 1989 and have access to such data BUT

> > morally it is unethical to even say who it was as they were

always

> > printed with no name

> > >

> > > I had written a software where I can input data and mask all

> > details even birth place, lat long also for such professionals

as

> > trust is a big word here

> > > i had writen s/w and also helped many write s/w for free from

> 1986

> > onwards.

> > >

> > > I STOPPED further development after Visual Jyotish, parashara

> > light etc came around. AS MY PRODUCT wud have done same work

> > > TESTING S/W IS MORE difficult THAN WRITING

> > >

> > > even NOW i USE A FEW S/w TO CHECK AND USE THEM AS A HABIT,

than

> > blame a wrong s/w or a bug for any errors.

> > >

> > > today most astrologers use some s/w or other so it is a

blessing

> > to the subject that technology saves time for professionals and

> > students alike , save time and do some research

> > >

> > > excepts SACHIN TENDULKARS' DATA that was given by PP y'day

most

> of

> > them r untested

> > >

> > > sachins seems ok as seen from astrological magazine when he

was

> > just a normal being I have used it as well and had discussions

> with

> > prafulla and others on his good and bad days and have found it

> > working

> > >

> > > dravid, seems fairly ok from one ref prafulla gave me in

which

> I

> > had said he will

> > >

> > > be injured and miss the last wc, though he as injured he did

> play

> > in WC

> > >

> > > both him and saurav I said will loose grace after May 07,

SACHIN

> > WILL RECOVER FORM AND RETIRE ANYTIME AFTER SEPT 08 in style

> > >

> > > THESE R BASED ON THE DATA SHARED BY FELLOW MEMBERS AND ASTRO

> MAG,

> > data used is when not big people

> > >

> > > RAHUL AND PRIYANKA GANDHI WILL BE MOST RIsKY DATA FOR ANYONE

TO

> > WORK ON

> > >

> > > remember what i write is for astrology's sake nothing angains

or

> > for anyone.

> > >

> > > subject is supreme and not the operators

> > >

> > > that is why time and again just not me even Wendy have lauded

> > parasharis works as they work for all times if applied in the

> right

> > way it has room for improvement not tinkering too mych if some

one

> > like Wendy from a different culture , religion also use it well

> then

> > it proves it validity over other systems

> > > is always my or her point

> > >

> > > nothing personal again here. rest is up to u to make up or

> conjure

> > what I HAVE NOT SAID.

> > >

> > > my commitments r still there so can't take too much readings

> still

> > as u see till now i am on off in groups

> > >

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > Dear Prashant GB ji ,

> > >

> > > Good mail. I agree with this.

> > > No celebrity's data is authentic

> > > or reliable unless the astrologer is

> > > personally an astrologer of that

> > > celebrity. If You have sent this mail to

> > > Mr sumit suggesting him

> > > that my data is not

> > > reliable then i wholly agree with you.

> > > the person who studies these datas

> > > has to personally re-check these datas

> > > before working on these.

> > >

> > > Another mail you sent in Vedic astrology group

> > > about Kaul and one more person regarding Indian

> > > astrology , when they were talking rubbish,

> > > that Indian vedic astrology is borrowed from Egypt

> > > ( Or was it some other country ???)

> > > that too was appreciated by me.

> > > One mail in Jyotish group directed towards me

> > > regarding short cut methods

> > > was of course not appreciated by me,

> > > for I have learnt a good deal

> > > of the Parashari method before indulging in

> > > short cut methods, which every astrologer if he

> > > is a good one, must know,when he is expected

> > > to reply without panchang, and normal

> > > tools of data, which are available

> > > when he is at home.

> > >

> > > Though you have been caustic towards my daughters

> > > marriage, and probably not wished it good,

> > > but i dont care. I am not living

> > > on blessings of you people, but by Gods grace.

> > >

> > > I enjoy freedom of expression,

> > > and am large hearted and noble

> > > enough to appreciate whenever it is warranted,

> > > and hence appreciated, your above 2 mails,

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sumit,

> > > >

> > > > It is nice to see u back after a few months break I guess,

> > though

> > > I have not been regular in the group either due to personal

> > > commitments [construction at home for all my siblings]

> > > >

> > > > WELL this request is a good one but is a slippery one

> > > >

> > > > NO CELEBRITY's DATA IS RELIABLE, in the public domain.

> > > >

> > > > they approach several astrologers and treat their visit

> itself

> > as

> > > a HONOR, many don't care to pay for the same reason, WILL

TAKE

> AS

> > > MANY VIEWS AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO TINKER WITH BIRTH DATA TO SEE

> > WHAT

> > > WILL HAPPEN if they changed and gave it may be they will get

to

> > hear

> > > what they want when some serious astrologers gives them a

> factual

> > > than fantasy case reading.

> > > >

> > > > what is circulated is mostly for gossip and entertainment,

> may

> > not

> > > help us and sure some of us have seen celebrities in a few

> fields

> > on

> > > a personal level and without their consent may not be able to

> > share

> > > them in public just as u wud recall RR doing it a few months

> ago

> > on

> > > a similar case he referred but did not give birth data, just

> some

> > > info from a pouplar chart.

> > > >

> > > > some can be shared privately than in public.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > > Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000@>

> > > wrote: Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Could anyone send the *birth details of celebreties*

> including

> > > sportsman,

> > > > bollywood actors and actresses, politicians, corporate

> > biggies,

> > > and all the

> > > > others big names that we can take. Whatever can be shared

i

> > will

> > > love to

> > > > have the data of celebrities.

> > > >

> > > > I am using Jagannath Hora for casting charts. So if anyone

> > having

> > > charts

> > > > saved in jhd format , it can be directly attached or

> uploaded

> > > somewhere in

> > > > the web, else only date time and place of birth may be

> > provided

> > > in a

> > > > database, etc

> > > >

> > > > Will be very helpful.

> > > >

> > > > Awaiting a quick response.

> > > >

> > > > Thanx & Regards

> > > >

> > > > Sumit Bajaj

> > > > Contact: +91-98300-84593

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Sumit,

 

this is where it shows people who r serious will see the bright side of issues

only and ur summery /reply is all I meant but had to add some material around it

else wud lose its weight, my normal postings r always short more towards a

question

 

good that will try to make sure the data u want to test. I appreciate the effort

in itself, and if u come across some good data as I had pointed to some here, I

am sure u will share it here as well, all of us have to evolve always, nothing

is cast in stone.

 

best wishes

 

Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000 wrote:

Prashantjee,

 

You are absolutely correct that data are not authentic.

 

Another thing, Your statement " subject is supreme and not the operators " is

really amazing. It really extracts the essence in a line.

 

Well, as far as data are concerned lets try to work on the data whatever we

have and cross check on the authenticity of it.

 

Thanx again.

 

On 20/03/2008, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar

>

> though I had long stopped reading ur mails this one alone I felt I cud try

> with less risk of loosing peace of mind

>

> NO NONE OF MY MAILS ARE ANY WAY DIRECTED AT U the ones u quoted as u r not

> the only one using them, THERE R MANY AND MORE IN REPLY TO SUMIT ALONE.

>

> I hope u remember last yrs case

>

> ur chela Tarun who quoted a friend wanted to become a singer and later he

> himself said there r no combinations for one and later said she is Britney

> spears

>

> to which also I replied it same way too so with other celebrities

>

> I HAD QUOTED FROM A FEW SITES THAT BRITNEY 's is shown as born in four

> different states at same data, where USA has so many time zones 4 regular

> one and 4 for alaska when we consider minutes at times too important

>

> I have cast horoscopes for many professional astrologers who did not have

> computers since 1989 and have access to such data BUT morally it is

> unethical to even say who it was as they were always printed with no name

>

> I had written a software where I can input data and mask all details even

> birth place, lat long also for such professionals as trust is a big word

> here

> i had writen s/w and also helped many write s/w for free from 1986

> onwards.

>

> I STOPPED further development after Visual Jyotish, parashara light etc

> came around. AS MY PRODUCT wud have done same work

> TESTING S/W IS MORE difficult THAN WRITING

>

> even NOW i USE A FEW S/w TO CHECK AND USE THEM AS A HABIT, than blame a

> wrong s/w or a bug for any errors.

>

> today most astrologers use some s/w or other so it is a blessing to the

> subject that technology saves time for professionals and students alike ,

> save time and do some research

>

> excepts SACHIN TENDULKARS' DATA that was given by PP y'day most of them r

> untested

>

> sachins seems ok as seen from astrological magazine when he was just a

> normal being I have used it as well and had discussions with prafulla and

> others on his good and bad days and have found it working

>

> dravid, seems fairly ok from one ref prafulla gave me in which I had said

> he will

>

> be injured and miss the last wc, though he as injured he did play in WC

>

> both him and saurav I said will loose grace after May 07, SACHIN WILL

> RECOVER FORM AND RETIRE ANYTIME AFTER SEPT 08 in style

>

> THESE R BASED ON THE DATA SHARED BY FELLOW MEMBERS AND ASTRO MAG, data

> used is when not big people

>

> RAHUL AND PRIYANKA GANDHI WILL BE MOST RIsKY DATA FOR ANYONE TO WORK ON

>

> remember what i write is for astrology's sake nothing angains or for

> anyone.

>

> subject is supreme and not the operators

>

> that is why time and again just not me even Wendy have lauded parasharis

> works as they work for all times if applied in the right way it has room for

> improvement not tinkering too mych if some one like Wendy from a different

> culture , religion also use it well then it proves it validity over other

> systems

> is always my or her point

>

> nothing personal again here. rest is up to u to make up or conjure what I

> HAVE NOT SAID.

>

> my commitments r still there so can't take too much readings still as u

> see till now i am on off in groups

>

> best wishes

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises <rajiventerprises%40hathway.com>>

> wrote: Dear Prashant GB ji ,

>

> Good mail. I agree with this.

> No celebrity's data is authentic

> or reliable unless the astrologer is

> personally an astrologer of that

> celebrity. If You have sent this mail to

> Mr sumit suggesting him

> that my data is not

> reliable then i wholly agree with you.

> the person who studies these datas

> has to personally re-check these datas

> before working on these.

>

> Another mail you sent in Vedic astrology group

> about Kaul and one more person regarding Indian

> astrology , when they were talking rubbish,

> that Indian vedic astrology is borrowed from Egypt

> ( Or was it some other country ???)

> that too was appreciated by me.

> One mail in Jyotish group directed towards me

> regarding short cut methods

> was of course not appreciated by me,

> for I have learnt a good deal

> of the Parashari method before indulging in

> short cut methods, which every astrologer if he

> is a good one, must know,when he is expected

> to reply without panchang, and normal

> tools of data, which are available

> when he is at home.

>

> Though you have been caustic towards my daughters

> marriage, and probably not wished it good,

> but i dont care. I am not living

> on blessings of you people, but by Gods grace.

>

> I enjoy freedom of expression,

> and am large hearted and noble

> enough to appreciate whenever it is warranted,

> and hence appreciated, your above 2 mails,

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> <%40>,

> Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sumit,

> >

> > It is nice to see u back after a few months break I guess, though

> I have not been regular in the group either due to personal

> commitments [construction at home for all my siblings]

> >

> > WELL this request is a good one but is a slippery one

> >

> > NO CELEBRITY's DATA IS RELIABLE, in the public domain.

> >

> > they approach several astrologers and treat their visit itself as

> a HONOR, many don't care to pay for the same reason, WILL TAKE AS

> MANY VIEWS AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO TINKER WITH BIRTH DATA TO SEE WHAT

> WILL HAPPEN if they changed and gave it may be they will get to hear

> what they want when some serious astrologers gives them a factual

> than fantasy case reading.

> >

> > what is circulated is mostly for gossip and entertainment, may not

> help us and sure some of us have seen celebrities in a few fields on

> a personal level and without their consent may not be able to share

> them in public just as u wud recall RR doing it a few months ago on

> a similar case he referred but did not give birth data, just some

> info from a pouplar chart.

> >

> > some can be shared privately than in public.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000

> wrote: Dear All,

> >

> > Could anyone send the *birth details of celebreties* including

> sportsman,

> > bollywood actors and actresses, politicians, corporate biggies,

> and all the

> > others big names that we can take. Whatever can be shared i will

> love to

> > have the data of celebrities.

> >

> > I am using Jagannath Hora for casting charts. So if anyone having

> charts

> > saved in jhd format , it can be directly attached or uploaded

> somewhere in

> > the web, else only date time and place of birth may be provided

> in a

> > database, etc

> >

> > Will be very helpful.

> >

> > Awaiting a quick response.

> >

> > Thanx & Regards

> >

> > Sumit Bajaj

> > Contact: +91-98300-84593

> >

> >