Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Dear All, Please shaare your knowledge about Navamansa and Dashamansa Chart. a. meaning b. Objectives c. methodology d. significance e. e-literatue avaiblities -Res Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Dear Res, The answer to this query would involve the making of the " Titanic " . Few volumes of literary exposition would be able to bring out the exhaustive details if the same. It would be better if You could read books by " Sanjay Rath " " LR Chawdhari " and " BV Raman " , and form a assessment. You may also read the exchanges ( Few heated ones too) between myself and the other members on the importance of Navamsha and the divisional charts, in the Group " Jyotish Group " . best wishes, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyotish.com , " ceserres " <ceserres wrote: > > Dear All, > Please shaare your knowledge about > Navamansa and Dashamansa Chart. > a. meaning > b. Objectives > c. methodology > d. significance > e. e-literatue avaiblities > > -Res > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Hello freinds My dad and me have created a new site about astrology.Beside that my father is well known astologist in nepal.He gives all the solution and predict future.Please it will be great help to know some feedback of our site. thank you deepak niroula kathmandu,nepal email address: mail http://www.astroudaya.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Dear Prashantji, It should be the former, which must be considered as Vargottama. I would not consider the same houses in which planet placed in both Lagna Chart and Navamsha, as Vargottama, but the signs if same irrespective of the house change, as Vargottama. a small revelations - If Venus is debilitated in both Lagna as well as Navamsha, then it is considered as Exalted and not as debilitated. Now I have to rush for work, I have taken responsibility of the family business now, which needs my presence and attention, and would be off, for the day. rgrds, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyotish.com , Prashant <praspandey wrote: > > Sir tell me one thing:- > > Supose somebody have Mithuna Lagna and his Sa is in Leo means in third house in natal chart.... > And in Navamsa it is again Leo but now here the zodiac in first house is of Sa. > Then is this vargottama. > > Or > > In Navamasa again Sa is in third house and it is in the zodiac of Pisces. > > which one is Vargottama or both one are example of vargottama..... > > I go for first case but one person was saying second is also vargottama.... > > > Thanks and Regards > Prashant Pandey > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: > Dear Res, > > The answer to this query would involve > the making of the " Titanic " . > Few volumes of literary exposition would > be able to bring out the exhaustive details > if the same. > > It would be better if You could read books by > " Sanjay Rath " " LR Chawdhari " and " BV Raman " , > and form a assessment. > > You may also read the exchanges ( Few heated > ones too) between myself and the other members > on the importance of Navamsha and the > divisional charts, in the Group " Jyotish > Group " . > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > , " ceserres " <ceserres@> > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > Please shaare your knowledge about > > Navamansa and Dashamansa Chart. > > a. meaning > > b. Objectives > > c. methodology > > d. significance > > e. e-literatue avaiblities > > > > -Res > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Dear Prashantji, As long as these questions do not relate to your own chart, I dont mind, otherwise I would advice you not to look at your chart much. You may not believe but I dont see my own chart or the transits more than once in 2 months. If these questions come from the quest for knowledge then I would be most happy trying to answer them. In this case- please answer- 1) Where is it written that Sun becomes Vakri. 2) What is the definition of Paap Kartaari Yoga. rgrds/Bhaskar. , Prashant <praspandey wrote: > > Dear Sir, > One more question i have in my mind.Please dont laugh on it as many times irrelevent questions haunt me.And whole night i cud'nt sleep because of those foolish questions. > > I just want your inputs. > > Suppose there are three planets Me at 15 degree,Su at 20 degree and Ma at 10 degree. > > Now there are 2 cases:- > > First one is- > > Me is margi > Su is margi > and Ma is also margi. > > Second one is- > > Me is margi > Su is vakri > and Ma is margi. > > Then what do you think will we get the same results corresponding to Me means in both cases wud Su and Ma influence Me in the same way. > > If not then should we not put limitations and conditions on Paap- Kartari Yoga. > > In second case Me is being sandwiched not in first one. > > Thanks and Regards > Prashant Pandey > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: > Dear Prashantji, > > It should be the former, which must be > considered as Vargottama. > > I would not consider the same houses in > which planet placed in both Lagna Chart > and Navamsha, as Vargottama, but the signs > if same irrespective of the house change, > as Vargottama. > > a small revelations - If Venus is debilitated > in both Lagna as well as Navamsha, then it is > considered as Exalted and not as debilitated. > > Now I have to rush for work, I have taken > responsibility of the family business now, > which needs my presence and attention, > and would be off, for the day. > > rgrds, > Bhaskar. > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > , Prashant <praspandey@> > wrote: > > > > Sir tell me one thing:- > > > > Supose somebody have Mithuna Lagna and his Sa is in Leo means in > third house in natal chart.... > > And in Navamsa it is again Leo but now here the zodiac in first > house is of Sa. > > Then is this vargottama. > > > > Or > > > > In Navamasa again Sa is in third house and it is in the zodiac > of Pisces. > > > > which one is Vargottama or both one are example of > vargottama..... > > > > I go for first case but one person was saying second is also > vargottama.... > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > Dear Res, > > > > The answer to this query would involve > > the making of the " Titanic " . > > Few volumes of literary exposition would > > be able to bring out the exhaustive details > > if the same. > > > > It would be better if You could read books by > > " Sanjay Rath " " LR Chawdhari " and " BV Raman " , > > and form a assessment. > > > > You may also read the exchanges ( Few heated > > ones too) between myself and the other members > > on the importance of Navamsha and the > > divisional charts, in the Group " Jyotish > > Group " . > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > , " ceserres " <ceserres@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > Please shaare your knowledge about > > > Navamansa and Dashamansa Chart. > > > a. meaning > > > b. Objectives > > > c. methodology > > > d. significance > > > e. e-literatue avaiblities > > > > > > -Res > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Dear Prashantji, I just vaguely remember your chart. I do not give much credence to Budhi aditya Yogas, Nipuna Yogas, or paap kartaari Yogas, and many more such Yogas like these. (Budhi aditya forming in Leo, Virgo or Gemini, and in a benefic house, of course matters in a positive manner, same way other Yogas too must be checked). They are just there,like a beauty spot or the black mole,for Life, on the body , without much singular or spectacular effect. Again for a Yoga to be or remain, or manifest, I believe, (as taught by My Gurus of Phaldeepika etc.) that they should also remain in the same position even in the Bhava Chalit chart. If they change positions then, remove the beauty spots and remove the black moles too. I actually do not have much knowledge of astrology, but just manage to look good somehow,with Gods grace, and am still learning and wish to do extensive learning for another 5 years, before considering myself as a good astrologer. Apart from studies, if I am able to do Sadhana and meditation after getting up at 4.30am in the morning, and remain good througought the day, ( Good means in all departments-Good), then only I would allow the tag of a Good astrologer to me, otherwise it would be just a " Astrologer " . If You can give me your birth details once again,perhaps I can have a look at your chart, before commenting further, because again I consider the planets placed in a Natal Chart just as the drivers or the source, and the results would come forth by the person who owns these Cars, which would be the other planets. These planets are like bottles of Sharbat with labels on them. But what Sharbat is there in which bottle, and what taste would come when one drinks these,is what is astrology all about. The labels are all Mayavic and the actual content, in these bottles,only a adept astrologer can know. The bottle with a Rose label on it, may not contain Rose Sharbat, but may contain Karela or Neem, for that matter. Same way vice versa. Sorry again this mail went long. regards, Bhaskar. , Prashant <praspandey wrote: > > Dear Sir, > In making an example i did that mistake yes you are saying right Su can not go in Ret. > > Enclosure of space (around 45 degree) by malefics called Paap kartari as per my knowledge.And in that space a house or any planet may come.If i am wrong then please correct me. > > I am amazed that you still have my natal chart in memories.You know if i am asking the question related to my natal chart then in what confusion i am. > I dont want to write just giving hint:- third house from La and third from AL is reponsible for something. > > Please dont take my confusions otherwise.I want to just discuss with you as you have sound grasping of the subject and a lot of experience.Experience matters a lot in this field. > > Please tell me the answer,if instead of Su there is Sa. > > Thanks and Regards > Prashant Pandey > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: > Dear Prashantji, > > As long as these questions do not relate to > your own chart, I dont mind, otherwise I would > advice you not to look at your chart much. > You may not believe but I dont see my own chart > or the transits more than once in 2 months. > > If these questions come from the quest for > knowledge then I would be most happy trying > to answer them. > > In this case- please answer- > > 1) Where is it written that Sun becomes Vakri. > 2) What is the definition of Paap Kartaari Yoga. > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > , Prashant <praspandey@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > One more question i have in my mind.Please dont > laugh on it as many times irrelevent questions haunt me.And whole > night i cud'nt sleep because of those foolish questions. > > > > I just want your inputs. > > > > Suppose there are three planets Me at 15 degree,Su at 20 degree > and Ma at 10 degree. > > > > Now there are 2 cases:- > > > > First one is- > > > > Me is margi > > Su is margi > > and Ma is also margi. > > > > Second one is- > > > > Me is margi > > Su is vakri > > and Ma is margi. > > > > Then what do you think will we get the same results corresponding > to Me means in both cases wud Su and Ma influence Me in the same way. > > > > If not then should we not put limitations and conditions on Paap- > Kartari Yoga. > > > > In second case Me is being sandwiched not in first one. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > Dear Prashantji, > > > > It should be the former, which must be > > considered as Vargottama. > > > > I would not consider the same houses in > > which planet placed in both Lagna Chart > > and Navamsha, as Vargottama, but the signs > > if same irrespective of the house change, > > as Vargottama. > > > > a small revelations - If Venus is debilitated > > in both Lagna as well as Navamsha, then it is > > considered as Exalted and not as debilitated. > > > > Now I have to rush for work, I have taken > > responsibility of the family business now, > > which needs my presence and attention, > > and would be off, for the day. > > > > rgrds, > > Bhaskar. > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > , Prashant <praspandey@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Sir tell me one thing:- > > > > > > Supose somebody have Mithuna Lagna and his Sa is in Leo means in > > third house in natal chart.... > > > And in Navamsa it is again Leo but now here the zodiac in first > > house is of Sa. > > > Then is this vargottama. > > > > > > Or > > > > > > In Navamasa again Sa is in third house and it is in the zodiac > > of Pisces. > > > > > > which one is Vargottama or both one are example of > > vargottama..... > > > > > > I go for first case but one person was saying second is also > > vargottama.... > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > Dear Res, > > > > > > The answer to this query would involve > > > the making of the " Titanic " . > > > Few volumes of literary exposition would > > > be able to bring out the exhaustive details > > > if the same. > > > > > > It would be better if You could read books by > > > " Sanjay Rath " " LR Chawdhari " and " BV Raman " , > > > and form a assessment. > > > > > > You may also read the exchanges ( Few heated > > > ones too) between myself and the other members > > > on the importance of Navamsha and the > > > divisional charts, in the Group " Jyotish > > > Group " . > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > , " ceserres " <ceserres@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Please shaare your knowledge about > > > > Navamansa and Dashamansa Chart. > > > > a. meaning > > > > b. Objectives > > > > c. methodology > > > > d. significance > > > > e. e-literatue avaiblities > > > > > > > > -Res > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Dear Prashantji, Yes that is wiseness. I made a mistake by revealing my Birth chart to each and everyone who requested for the same, and you and many others from these Forums know very well, how I have been attacked, and I also made a mistake of revealing my life like a open book, and people have taken advantage of them. But I do not regret in the aftermath, at least I have allowed people to discuss , and have let people know my weak points too, in the goodness of the divine science astrology. Now people all who know me also know my strong and weak points as well, so I have nothing to fear, nothing to hide, and nobody can expose anything newer about me. best regards, Bhaskar. , Prashant <praspandey wrote: > > Dear Sir, > I will send you my birth details through personal mail,because now i dont want to do mistake. > > Some person came heavily by saying your Sa is afflicted with Ra some give abuse that you have Guru Saapa when i just go against them. > > Its wrong prcise to give anybody abuse on personal front. > > Again thanks for giving me time. > > Thanks and Regards > Prashant Pandey > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: > Dear Prashantji, > > I just vaguely remember your chart. > I do not give much credence to Budhi > aditya Yogas, Nipuna Yogas, or paap > kartaari Yogas, and many more such > Yogas like these. > (Budhi aditya forming in Leo, > Virgo or Gemini, and in a benefic > house, of course matters in a positive > manner, same way other Yogas too must > be checked). > They are just there,like a beauty spot > or the black mole,for Life, on the > body , without much singular or > spectacular effect. > > Again for a Yoga to be or remain, or > manifest, > I believe, (as taught by My Gurus of > Phaldeepika etc.) that they should > also remain in the same position > even in the Bhava Chalit chart. > If they change positions then, > remove the beauty spots > and remove the black moles too. > > I actually do not have much knowledge > of astrology, but just manage to look > good somehow,with Gods grace, and am > still learning and wish to do extensive > learning for another 5 years, before > considering myself as a good astrologer. > Apart from studies, if I am able to do > Sadhana and meditation after getting up > at 4.30am in the morning, > and remain good througought the day, > ( Good means in all departments-Good), > then only I would allow the tag of a > Good astrologer to me, otherwise it > would be just a " Astrologer " . > > If You can give me your birth details once > again,perhaps I can have a look at your chart, > before commenting further, because again > I consider the planets placed in a Natal Chart > just as the drivers or the source, and the > results would come forth by the person who > owns these Cars, which would be the other > planets. > > These planets are like bottles of Sharbat with > labels on them. But what Sharbat is there in > which bottle, and what taste would come when > one drinks these,is what is astrology all about. > > The labels are all Mayavic and the actual content, > in these bottles,only a adept astrologer can know. > The bottle with a Rose label on it, may not > contain Rose Sharbat, but may contain Karela or Neem, > for that matter. Same way vice versa. > > Sorry again this mail went long. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , Prashant <praspandey@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > In making an example i did that mistake yes you are > saying right Su can not go in Ret. > > > > Enclosure of space (around 45 degree) by malefics > called Paap kartari as per my knowledge.And in that space a house or > any planet may come.If i am wrong then please correct me. > > > > I am amazed that you still have my natal chart in memories.You > know if i am asking the question related to my natal chart then in > what confusion i am. > > I dont want to write just giving hint:- third house from La and > third from AL is reponsible for something. > > > > Please dont take my confusions otherwise.I want to just discuss > with you as you have sound grasping of the subject and a lot of > experience.Experience matters a lot in this field. > > > > Please tell me the answer,if instead of Su there is Sa. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > Dear Prashantji, > > > > As long as these questions do not relate to > > your own chart, I dont mind, otherwise I would > > advice you not to look at your chart much. > > You may not believe but I dont see my own chart > > or the transits more than once in 2 months. > > > > If these questions come from the quest for > > knowledge then I would be most happy trying > > to answer them. > > > > In this case- please answer- > > > > 1) Where is it written that Sun becomes Vakri. > > 2) What is the definition of Paap Kartaari Yoga. > > > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > , Prashant <praspandey@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > One more question i have in my mind.Please dont > > laugh on it as many times irrelevent questions haunt me.And whole > > night i cud'nt sleep because of those foolish questions. > > > > > > I just want your inputs. > > > > > > Suppose there are three planets Me at 15 degree,Su at 20 degree > > and Ma at 10 degree. > > > > > > Now there are 2 cases:- > > > > > > First one is- > > > > > > Me is margi > > > Su is margi > > > and Ma is also margi. > > > > > > Second one is- > > > > > > Me is margi > > > Su is vakri > > > and Ma is margi. > > > > > > Then what do you think will we get the same results > corresponding > > to Me means in both cases wud Su and Ma influence Me in the same > way. > > > > > > If not then should we not put limitations and conditions on Paap- > > Kartari Yoga. > > > > > > In second case Me is being sandwiched not in first one. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > Dear Prashantji, > > > > > > It should be the former, which must be > > > considered as Vargottama. > > > > > > I would not consider the same houses in > > > which planet placed in both Lagna Chart > > > and Navamsha, as Vargottama, but the signs > > > if same irrespective of the house change, > > > as Vargottama. > > > > > > a small revelations - If Venus is debilitated > > > in both Lagna as well as Navamsha, then it is > > > considered as Exalted and not as debilitated. > > > > > > Now I have to rush for work, I have taken > > > responsibility of the family business now, > > > which needs my presence and attention, > > > and would be off, for the day. > > > > > > rgrds, > > > Bhaskar. > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > , Prashant <praspandey@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir tell me one thing:- > > > > > > > > Supose somebody have Mithuna Lagna and his Sa is in Leo means > in > > > third house in natal chart.... > > > > And in Navamsa it is again Leo but now here the zodiac in > first > > > house is of Sa. > > > > Then is this vargottama. > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > In Navamasa again Sa is in third house and it is in the zodiac > > > of Pisces. > > > > > > > > which one is Vargottama or both one are example of > > > vargottama..... > > > > > > > > I go for first case but one person was saying second is also > > > vargottama.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear Res, > > > > > > > > The answer to this query would involve > > > > the making of the " Titanic " . > > > > Few volumes of literary exposition would > > > > be able to bring out the exhaustive details > > > > if the same. > > > > > > > > It would be better if You could read books by > > > > " Sanjay Rath " " LR Chawdhari " and " BV Raman " , > > > > and form a assessment. > > > > > > > > You may also read the exchanges ( Few heated > > > > ones too) between myself and the other members > > > > on the importance of Navamsha and the > > > > divisional charts, in the Group " Jyotish > > > > Group " . > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > , " ceserres " > <ceserres@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > Please shaare your knowledge about > > > > > Navamansa and Dashamansa Chart. > > > > > a. meaning > > > > > b. Objectives > > > > > c. methodology > > > > > d. significance > > > > > e. e-literatue avaiblities > > > > > > > > > > -Res > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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