Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Panditji, How do *you* definitively identify a rinanubandhan/rnanubandhan in the horoscopes of your clients? Please enlighten! Rohiniranjan , Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri wrote: > > Lots of water has flown under the bridge since my note in this thread. Just wish to add my two cents - despite all the advices and personal thoughts, help would be rendered where a rnanubandhan exists. Else new karma may be created in absence of such a rnanubandhan. But that would come under the purview of destiny - your bhagya destined the action to be done; you developed an intention to help the needy; and, finally you helped the needy through purushartha. In all cases, it must be hoped that the assistance is not put to any adverse use, rendering the donor's karma null and void! After all is part of HIS maya!! > > Best wishes, > Amitabh Shastri > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises > > Monday, 11 February, 2008 11:48:14 AM > Re: Sade Saati -remedies > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohiniji, > > > > Of course even I have not seen many cobblers > > hands, it just I notice the hand of > > cobblers and beggars, when they spread > > out their hand to receive money, and I have > > a observant eye, in this area, out of > > curiosity, as have already spent 2 years > > in palmistry, and do not wish > > these to go wastel and continue practical > > studies wherever possible. > > > > I said laid back purushartha, means > > > > 1) a person doing his duty just for > > the heck of it,cause he has to do it, > > like those Govt Staff we see in the Muncipal > > offices and Post offices too,who are always > > derary looking, slow in reflexes, > > irritating to talk to, > > watchful of the clok on the wall, > > that is the closing time of the office etc. > > > > 2) while another person doing it lovingly > > with vigour and faifhfullness. > > > > I am aware of the oxmoron used by you in > > the other Group, where at the moment, i do not > > wish to enter the thread, > > probably later, if possible, or not. > > > > I would not be interested to see the hand of > > Mr. BATA, cause I have aversion > > towards people earning money from leather > > (Between You and me, pl do not tell anyone else), > > I would prefer anyday the palm of Mr. TATA, > > but the man I liked and respected,JRD, is no more. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar bhai, > > > > > > I have seen many palms but never have I seen a cobbler with an > > > impressive and unafflicted fate line, truth be told! Then again, I > > > have not seen the palm of Mr. BATA! > > > > > > Laid-back and purushartha used in the same sentence for the same > > > individual are not right and just lead to creating yet another > > > oxymoron (juxtaposed paradoxes!) as I recently posted when > > > questioning the same, elsewhere: > > > > > > False Teacher > > > Gentle Dictator > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Shri Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > Aapne jo kaha woh bhi bilkul sahi hai, > > > > parantu, main samajhta hoon, > > > > > > > > Just like a Good fate Line in a Liftmans or > > > > a cobblers Palm would not necessarily make > > > > him a Millionare, in the sme way, a bad horoscope > > > > would not make any person go hungry. God arranges > > > > for the milk before the baby is born. > > > > The Lord Saturn rules over " Purushartha " > > > > and " Phal " , as Lord of the 10th and > > > > 11th houses respectively. Mars gets Exalted > > > > in the 10th house, not for any other reason, > > > > but because of aggression in Purushartha, > > > > which is a must. A laid back attitude in > > > > purushartha would get a person nowhere. > > > > Bhagya is a seperate matter.That is GuruKripa, > > > > ruled by the beningn Planet Jupiter. One > > > > may not have Gurukripa, does not matter, > > > > but one can have 2 times Roti with > > > > good purushartha, if not more . > > > > This is what I feel and have experienced > > > > through watching people, their palms and > > > > their charts. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhai, > > > > > > > > > > Aapney jo kaha woh theek hai aur wajib hai bhai saheb! Magar > > > USKAY > > > > is > > > > > mayajaal mein aisey bahut hain jo bhukey sotey hain, in so > > called > > > > > developed first nations! > > > > > > > > > > Chahey jahan paida ho insaan, bhagya say ya bhaley karmon ki > > > > wajah, > > > > > KARMA will remind his/her responsibilites! > > > > > > > > > > Regardless of the first inclination that humans face, to avoid > > > and > > > > > bypass responsibilities, through what some call " remedies " , > > > > perhaps > > > > > we should should aim for 'resolutions' ! After all, BHAGYA was > > not > > > > > placed complementarily OPPOSITE to Purushartha in our charts > > just > > > > > randomly! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohiniji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir this happens with all of us. > > > > > > At times we see a good stuff in > > > > > > the market, and postpone the decesion > > > > > > to buy it later, and when come home in > > > > > > the evening,lament on why we did not > > > > > > purchase that,now who will go back etc..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Same with alms, we see somebody lying > > > > > > somewhere whom we should have given some > > > > > > form of alms, but being busy in our > > > > > > tight schedules, we make many excuses to > > > > > > ourselves, and move on without giving > > > > > > the guy anything, only to remember that > > > > > > person later on and feel sad, as why we > > > > > > did not give him something. But > > > > > > when we feel this sadness, another thought > > > > > > simultaneously crosses the mind , " Who > > > > > > am I. Mere nahin dene se woh bhooka thodi > > > > > > hi rahega. Bhagwaan baitha hai, karodon ko > > > > > > khilata hai. Uske rajya mein koi Bhooka > > > > > > nahin sota " . This knowledge makes > > > > > > the past opportunity, we missed, > > > > > > as inconsequential. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopu ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure why reading your posting instantaneously brought > > > this > > > > > > > recollection. Many years ago one late evening when I was > > > > leaving > > > > > > for > > > > > > > home after a very tiring work day, I passed a very tall > > young > > > > man > > > > > > > with flowing hair and very unusual blue, penetrating but > > > > > > > compassionate eyes (in depth and compassion!) who did not > > ask > > > > me > > > > > > > verbally for help or " spare change " as pan-handlers ask > > even > > > > in > > > > > so > > > > > > > called developed first nations (!) but the message and non- > > > > > > > verbal 'request' was very strong that he was asking me for > > > > help! > > > > > > > There was a beauty and glow around his persona that I > > > realized > > > > > > later > > > > > > > on after I politely refused to help and moved on, wearily! > > As > > > > you > > > > > > can > > > > > > > see, I am still enveloped by that fleeting and momentary > > > > > > experience! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rather than lament on a missed opportunity or whatever, > > all I > > > > can > > > > > > do > > > > > > > is to remember that moment and make good on the promise I > > > made > > > > to > > > > > > > myself! That is all we can do! Each of us, whatever our > > > > > individual > > > > > > > stories!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are all human and are blessed to be Graced with many > > many > > > > > > > opportunities to do the right thing! Hence the multitude > > of > > > > > > births! > > > > > > > We are all loved by Someone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , K Gopu > > <kgopu_24@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > whenever we part with money to the needy we give it as > > > > > > > > a routine or to see that the person shud stop > > > > > > > > bothering us (be it at home or in public). > > > > > > > > after following the discussion on this subject I > > > > > > > > suggest that our helping the needy shud be done with a > > > > > > > > prayer that God shud help the needy and stop this > > > > > > > > person from resorting to begging and he/she shud also > > > > > > > > have a life like other citizens of this country. and > > > > > > > > that god shud pardon the person who would have > > > > > > > > committed sinful acts in his previous birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good wishes, > > > > > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > _ > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > > > > > > know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thanks to all of you who responded to my problem i could go thru all of them only now, altough some you have provided a good insight and a way forward i am a bit disapponted as the discussion seem to have gone a different way. Regards Vandan Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: Dear Tajinder ji, This was a very helpful post from you, and so were the previous ones on this subject, by Your goodself, which I missed appreciating. Would like to confirm and add- Alcohol and Non-Veg is certainly a No No in this phase. So is illicit sex, or evil thoughts or endevaours in these directions. Doing above actions would also spoil the Jupiter in ones chart, for both Saturn and Jupiter work hand in hand. And one having Jupiter and Saturn both spoilt in his chart, would lead a most miserable Life. 100 Hanuman Chalisas in one sitting,would be a very difficult propposition for most,unless it is done in a public manner,that is few of the family members doing it together. 51 Hanuman Chalisas would be more of a practical suggestion, to be done every Tuesday or Saturday, and 11 or 21 Hanuman Chalisas to be done on on a daily basis. But those who can do 100 Hanuman Chalisas regularly, coupled with a proper ethical and moral lifestyle,nothing is unachieveable for these great souls. The poor folks, subordinate class, including sweepers, chaprasis, peons,liftman, beggars, cobblers, old crippled people, all of these represent Saturn, and any help given to any of these, would be recorded well by ShaniDev. So would be small creatures like ants crawling on the road. Feeding them would also bring in the blessings. best wishes, Bhaskar. , tajinder sian <tajindersinghsian wrote: > > Hello Vandan, > > I can empathise with what you are going through in sade sati. I myself I have been through 1st and 2nd phase and now I am in my final stage. I personally found that the best remedy is to become spiritual and have devotion for your lord. To survive sade sati you need to maintain a consistent spiritual practice / sadhana. Consistency is the key. Try to find a fixed time in the day. You may chant Hanuman chalisa daily - but if you are gonna do it, do it consistently / daily. Let go of ego, meat/fish and alcohol. Become humble. I find donating a few coins, every week, especially to rubbish collectors and toilet cleaners extremely helpful. > > If your health is very bad, try and chant 100 hanuman chalisa in one sitting. I did this and found it to be a miracle for me. Forget stones/gems - Shani is not really interested in that - he wants to see you spiritualised and devoted and to do something for yourself. He is the greatest teacher of them all. I have learnt so much. > > Peace and light, > > Taj > > > > > : danny101_in: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 03:13:40 -0800 Sade Saati -remedies > > > > > Namaskar Gurujisi am going thru my 2nd phase of Sade Saati and experiencing heath problems, please guide for remedies,poojas,stones..My date of birth is 4th July 1973Place baroda (Gujarat)Time 11:55 amplease help.RegardsVandan--------------- ------------------Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.[Non- text portions of this message have been removed] ________ > Telly addicts unite! > http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Dear RRji, Please note that I never mentioned rnanubandhana analysis. Would love to know if there is some method to do so? Please oblige... Best wishes, Amitabh Shastri Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Tuesday, 12 February, 2008 9:46:08 AM Re: Sade Saati -remedies Panditji, How do *you* definitively identify a rinanubandhan/ rnanubandhan in the horoscopes of your clients? Please enlighten! Rohiniranjan , Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ ...> wrote: > > Lots of water has flown under the bridge since my note in this thread. Just wish to add my two cents - despite all the advices and personal thoughts, help would be rendered where a rnanubandhan exists. Else new karma may be created in absence of such a rnanubandhan. But that would come under the purview of destiny - your bhagya destined the action to be done; you developed an intention to help the needy; and, finally you helped the needy through purushartha. In all cases, it must be hoped that the assistance is not put to any adverse use, rendering the donor's karma null and void! After all is part of HIS maya!! > > Best wishes, > Amitabh Shastri > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> > > Monday, 11 February, 2008 11:48:14 AM > Re: Sade Saati -remedies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohiniji, > > > > Of course even I have not seen many cobblers > > hands, it just I notice the hand of > > cobblers and beggars, when they spread > > out their hand to receive money, and I have > > a observant eye, in this area, out of > > curiosity, as have already spent 2 years > > in palmistry, and do not wish > > these to go wastel and continue practical > > studies wherever possible. > > > > I said laid back purushartha, means > > > > 1) a person doing his duty just for > > the heck of it,cause he has to do it, > > like those Govt Staff we see in the Muncipal > > offices and Post offices too,who are always > > derary looking, slow in reflexes, > > irritating to talk to, > > watchful of the clok on the wall, > > that is the closing time of the office etc. > > > > 2) while another person doing it lovingly > > with vigour and faifhfullness. > > > > I am aware of the oxmoron used by you in > > the other Group, where at the moment, i do not > > wish to enter the thread, > > probably later, if possible, or not. > > > > I would not be interested to see the hand of > > Mr. BATA, cause I have aversion > > towards people earning money from leather > > (Between You and me, pl do not tell anyone else), > > I would prefer anyday the palm of Mr. TATA, > > but the man I liked and respected,JRD, is no more. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar bhai, > > > > > > I have seen many palms but never have I seen a cobbler with an > > > impressive and unafflicted fate line, truth be told! Then again, I > > > have not seen the palm of Mr. BATA! > > > > > > Laid-back and purushartha used in the same sentence for the same > > > individual are not right and just lead to creating yet another > > > oxymoron (juxtaposed paradoxes!) as I recently posted when > > > questioning the same, elsewhere: > > > > > > False Teacher > > > Gentle Dictator > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Shri Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > Aapne jo kaha woh bhi bilkul sahi hai, > > > > parantu, main samajhta hoon, > > > > > > > > Just like a Good fate Line in a Liftmans or > > > > a cobblers Palm would not necessarily make > > > > him a Millionare, in the sme way, a bad horoscope > > > > would not make any person go hungry. God arranges > > > > for the milk before the baby is born. > > > > The Lord Saturn rules over " Purushartha " > > > > and " Phal " , as Lord of the 10th and > > > > 11th houses respectively. Mars gets Exalted > > > > in the 10th house, not for any other reason, > > > > but because of aggression in Purushartha, > > > > which is a must. A laid back attitude in > > > > purushartha would get a person nowhere. > > > > Bhagya is a seperate matter.That is GuruKripa, > > > > ruled by the beningn Planet Jupiter. One > > > > may not have Gurukripa, does not matter, > > > > but one can have 2 times Roti with > > > > good purushartha, if not more . > > > > This is what I feel and have experienced > > > > through watching people, their palms and > > > > their charts. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhai, > > > > > > > > > > Aapney jo kaha woh theek hai aur wajib hai bhai saheb! Magar > > > USKAY > > > > is > > > > > mayajaal mein aisey bahut hain jo bhukey sotey hain, in so > > called > > > > > developed first nations! > > > > > > > > > > Chahey jahan paida ho insaan, bhagya say ya bhaley karmon ki > > > > wajah, > > > > > KARMA will remind his/her responsibilites! > > > > > > > > > > Regardless of the first inclination that humans face, to avoid > > > and > > > > > bypass responsibilities, through what some call " remedies " , > > > > perhaps > > > > > we should should aim for 'resolutions' ! After all, BHAGYA was > > not > > > > > placed complementarily OPPOSITE to Purushartha in our charts > > just > > > > > randomly! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohiniji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir this happens with all of us. > > > > > > At times we see a good stuff in > > > > > > the market, and postpone the decesion > > > > > > to buy it later, and when come home in > > > > > > the evening,lament on why we did not > > > > > > purchase that,now who will go back etc..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Same with alms, we see somebody lying > > > > > > somewhere whom we should have given some > > > > > > form of alms, but being busy in our > > > > > > tight schedules, we make many excuses to > > > > > > ourselves, and move on without giving > > > > > > the guy anything, only to remember that > > > > > > person later on and feel sad, as why we > > > > > > did not give him something. But > > > > > > when we feel this sadness, another thought > > > > > > simultaneously crosses the mind , " Who > > > > > > am I. Mere nahin dene se woh bhooka thodi > > > > > > hi rahega. Bhagwaan baitha hai, karodon ko > > > > > > khilata hai. Uske rajya mein koi Bhooka > > > > > > nahin sota " . This knowledge makes > > > > > > the past opportunity, we missed, > > > > > > as inconsequential. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopu ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure why reading your posting instantaneously brought > > > this > > > > > > > recollection. Many years ago one late evening when I was > > > > leaving > > > > > > for > > > > > > > home after a very tiring work day, I passed a very tall > > young > > > > man > > > > > > > with flowing hair and very unusual blue, penetrating but > > > > > > > compassionate eyes (in depth and compassion!) who did not > > ask > > > > me > > > > > > > verbally for help or " spare change " as pan-handlers ask > > even > > > > in > > > > > so > > > > > > > called developed first nations (!) but the message and non- > > > > > > > verbal 'request' was very strong that he was asking me for > > > > help! > > > > > > > There was a beauty and glow around his persona that I > > > realized > > > > > > later > > > > > > > on after I politely refused to help and moved on, wearily! > > As > > > > you > > > > > > can > > > > > > > see, I am still enveloped by that fleeting and momentary > > > > > > experience! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rather than lament on a missed opportunity or whatever, > > all I > > > > can > > > > > > do > > > > > > > is to remember that moment and make good on the promise I > > > made > > > > to > > > > > > > myself! That is all we can do! Each of us, whatever our > > > > > individual > > > > > > > stories!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are all human and are blessed to be Graced with many > > many > > > > > > > opportunities to do the right thing! 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 , Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri wrote: > > Dear RRji, > > Please note that I never mentioned rnanubandhana analysis. Would love to know if there is some method to do so? Please oblige... > > Best wishes, > Amitabh Shastri Dear Amitabh ji, You wrote earlier: " Just wish to add my two cents - despite all the advices and personal thoughts, help would be rendered where a rnanubandhan exists. Else new karma may be created in absence of such a rnanubandhan. " How can help be rendered as indicated in your quoted message if " rnanubandhan " cannot be first diagnosed? If you meditate on the two terms RIN and ANUBANDHAN apropos the general context of the jyotish kundali, an erudite being like you should be able to figure your question out. Unless you are just testing and toying with me, Sir ;-) RR > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > > Tuesday, 12 February, 2008 9:46:08 AM > Re: Sade Saati -remedies > > > > > > > Panditji, > > > > How do *you* definitively identify a rinanubandhan/ rnanubandhan in > > the horoscopes of your clients? > > > > Please enlighten! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Amitabh Shastri > > <amitabh_shastri@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Lots of water has flown under the bridge since my note in this > > thread. Just wish to add my two cents - despite all the advices and > > personal thoughts, help would be rendered where a rnanubandhan > > exists. Else new karma may be created in absence of such a > > rnanubandhan. But that would come under the purview of destiny - your > > bhagya destined the action to be done; you developed an intention to > > help the needy; and, finally you helped the needy through > > purushartha. In all cases, it must be hoped that the assistance is > > not put to any adverse use, rendering the donor's karma null and > > void! After all is part of HIS maya!! > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Amitabh Shastri > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> > > > > > > Monday, 11 February, 2008 11:48:14 AM > > > Re: Sade Saati -remedies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohiniji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course even I have not seen many cobblers > > > > > > hands, it just I notice the hand of > > > > > > cobblers and beggars, when they spread > > > > > > out their hand to receive money, and I have > > > > > > a observant eye, in this area, out of > > > > > > curiosity, as have already spent 2 years > > > > > > in palmistry, and do not wish > > > > > > these to go wastel and continue practical > > > > > > studies wherever possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > I said laid back purushartha, means > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) a person doing his duty just for > > > > > > the heck of it,cause he has to do it, > > > > > > like those Govt Staff we see in the Muncipal > > > > > > offices and Post offices too,who are always > > > > > > derary looking, slow in reflexes, > > > > > > irritating to talk to, > > > > > > watchful of the clok on the wall, > > > > > > that is the closing time of the office etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) while another person doing it lovingly > > > > > > with vigour and faifhfullness. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am aware of the oxmoron used by you in > > > > > > the other Group, where at the moment, i do not > > > > > > wish to enter the thread, > > > > > > probably later, if possible, or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be interested to see the hand of > > > > > > Mr. BATA, cause I have aversion > > > > > > towards people earning money from leather > > > > > > (Between You and me, pl do not tell anyone else), > > > > > > I would prefer anyday the palm of Mr. TATA, > > > > > > but the man I liked and respected,JRD, is no more. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen many palms but never have I seen a cobbler with an > > > > > > > impressive and unafflicted fate line, truth be told! Then again, > > I > > > > > > > have not seen the palm of Mr. BATA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Laid-back and purushartha used in the same sentence for the same > > > > > > > individual are not right and just lead to creating yet another > > > > > > > oxymoron (juxtaposed paradoxes!) as I recently posted when > > > > > > > questioning the same, elsewhere: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > False Teacher > > > > > > > Gentle Dictator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aapne jo kaha woh bhi bilkul sahi hai, > > > > > > > > parantu, main samajhta hoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like a Good fate Line in a Liftmans or > > > > > > > > a cobblers Palm would not necessarily make > > > > > > > > him a Millionare, in the sme way, a bad horoscope > > > > > > > > would not make any person go hungry. God arranges > > > > > > > > for the milk before the baby is born. > > > > > > > > The Lord Saturn rules over " Purushartha " > > > > > > > > and " Phal " , as Lord of the 10th and > > > > > > > > 11th houses respectively. Mars gets Exalted > > > > > > > > in the 10th house, not for any other reason, > > > > > > > > but because of aggression in Purushartha, > > > > > > > > which is a must. A laid back attitude in > > > > > > > > purushartha would get a person nowhere. > > > > > > > > Bhagya is a seperate matter.That is GuruKripa, > > > > > > > > ruled by the beningn Planet Jupiter. One > > > > > > > > may not have Gurukripa, does not matter, > > > > > > > > but one can have 2 times Roti with > > > > > > > > good purushartha, if not more . > > > > > > > > This is what I feel and have experienced > > > > > > > > through watching people, their palms and > > > > > > > > their charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aapney jo kaha woh theek hai aur wajib hai bhai saheb! Magar > > > > > > > USKAY > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > mayajaal mein aisey bahut hain jo bhukey sotey hain, in so > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > developed first nations! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chahey jahan paida ho insaan, bhagya say ya bhaley karmon ki > > > > > > > > wajah, > > > > > > > > > KARMA will remind his/her responsibilites! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless of the first inclination that humans face, to > > avoid > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > bypass responsibilities, through what some call " remedies " , > > > > > > > > perhaps > > > > > > > > > we should should aim for 'resolutions' ! After all, BHAGYA > > was > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > placed complementarily OPPOSITE to Purushartha in our charts > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > randomly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohiniji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir this happens with all of us. > > > > > > > > > > At times we see a good stuff in > > > > > > > > > > the market, and postpone the decesion > > > > > > > > > > to buy it later, and when come home in > > > > > > > > > > the evening,lament on why we did not > > > > > > > > > > purchase that,now who will go back etc..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same with alms, we see somebody lying > > > > > > > > > > somewhere whom we should have given some > > > > > > > > > > form of alms, but being busy in our > > > > > > > > > > tight schedules, we make many excuses to > > > > > > > > > > ourselves, and move on without giving > > > > > > > > > > the guy anything, only to remember that > > > > > > > > > > person later on and feel sad, as why we > > > > > > > > > > did not give him something. But > > > > > > > > > > when we feel this sadness, another thought > > > > > > > > > > simultaneously crosses the mind , " Who > > > > > > > > > > am I. Mere nahin dene se woh bhooka thodi > > > > > > > > > > hi rahega. Bhagwaan baitha hai, karodon ko > > > > > > > > > > khilata hai. Uske rajya mein koi Bhooka > > > > > > > > > > nahin sota " . This knowledge makes > > > > > > > > > > the past opportunity, we missed, > > > > > > > > > > as inconsequential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopu ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure why reading your posting instantaneously brought > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > recollection. Many years ago one late evening when I was > > > > > > > > leaving > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > home after a very tiring work day, I passed a very tall > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > > > with flowing hair and very unusual blue, penetrating but > > > > > > > > > > > compassionate eyes (in depth and compassion!) who did not > > > > > > ask > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > > verbally for help or " spare change " as pan-handlers ask > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > called developed first nations (!) but the message and > > non- > > > > > > > > > > > verbal 'request' was very strong that he was asking me > > for > > > > > > > > help! > > > > > > > > > > > There was a beauty and glow around his persona that I > > > > > > > realized > > > > > > > > > > later > > > > > > > > > > > on after I politely refused to help and moved on, > > wearily! > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > see, I am still enveloped by that fleeting and momentary > > > > > > > > > > experience! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rather than lament on a missed opportunity or whatever, > > > > > > all I > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > is to remember that moment and make good on the promise I > > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > myself! That is all we can do! Each of us, whatever our > > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > > > stories!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are all human and are blessed to be Graced with many > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > opportunities to do the right thing! Hence the multitude > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > births! > > > > > > > > > > > We are all loved by Someone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , K Gopu > > > > > > <kgopu_24@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > whenever we part with money to the needy we give it as > > > > > > > > > > > > a routine or to see that the person shud stop > > > > > > > > > > > > bothering us (be it at home or in public). > > > > > > > > > > > > after following the discussion on this subject I > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest that our helping the needy shud be done with a > > > > > > > > > > > > prayer that God shud help the needy and stop this > > > > > > > > > > > > person from resorting to begging and he/she shud also > > > > > > > > > > > > have a life like other citizens of this country. and > > > > > > > > > > > > that god shud pardon the person who would have > > > > > > > > > > > > committed sinful acts in his previous birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > > > > > > > > > > know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Dear RRji, The word help had been mentioned in context of payment of alms to the poor. You may advise a person, not to drop in the oil filled pots of beggars on Saturdays but a person may still do it out of intense sympathy arising in your heart at that instance of time...my opinion appears to differ from other learned members in the group. This action may either be as due to rnanubandhana or creation of new karma... I am sure Saturn is not obliged by such actions of pleasing. He is looking for honesty, truth, immense devotion, intense efforts in the right direction etc etc. Opinions may differ! At this advanced age a major part of my erudition comes from company of learned members like you and your comments on such varied forums. Best wishes, Amitabh Shastri Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Wednesday, 13 February, 2008 11:45:44 AM Re: Sade Saati -remedies , Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ ...> wrote: > > Dear RRji, > > Please note that I never mentioned rnanubandhana analysis. Would love to know if there is some method to do so? Please oblige... > > Best wishes, > Amitabh Shastri Dear Amitabh ji, You wrote earlier: " Just wish to add my two cents - despite all the advices and personal thoughts, help would be rendered where a rnanubandhan exists. Else new karma may be created in absence of such a rnanubandhan. " How can help be rendered as indicated in your quoted message if " rnanubandhan " cannot be first diagnosed? If you meditate on the two terms RIN and ANUBANDHAN apropos the general context of the jyotish kundali, an erudite being like you should be able to figure your question out. Unless you are just testing and toying with me, Sir ;-) RR > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Tuesday, 12 February, 2008 9:46:08 AM > Re: Sade Saati -remedies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Panditji, > > > > How do *you* definitively identify a rinanubandhan/ rnanubandhan in > > the horoscopes of your clients? > > > > Please enlighten! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Amitabh Shastri > > <amitabh_shastri@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Lots of water has flown under the bridge since my note in this > > thread. Just wish to add my two cents - despite all the advices and > > personal thoughts, help would be rendered where a rnanubandhan > > exists. Else new karma may be created in absence of such a > > rnanubandhan. But that would come under the purview of destiny - your > > bhagya destined the action to be done; you developed an intention to > > help the needy; and, finally you helped the needy through > > purushartha. In all cases, it must be hoped that the assistance is > > not put to any adverse use, rendering the donor's karma null and > > void! After all is part of HIS maya!! > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Amitabh Shastri > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> > > > > > > Monday, 11 February, 2008 11:48:14 AM > > > Re: Sade Saati -remedies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohiniji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course even I have not seen many cobblers > > > > > > hands, it just I notice the hand of > > > > > > cobblers and beggars, when they spread > > > > > > out their hand to receive money, and I have > > > > > > a observant eye, in this area, out of > > > > > > curiosity, as have already spent 2 years > > > > > > in palmistry, and do not wish > > > > > > these to go wastel and continue practical > > > > > > studies wherever possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > I said laid back purushartha, means > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) a person doing his duty just for > > > > > > the heck of it,cause he has to do it, > > > > > > like those Govt Staff we see in the Muncipal > > > > > > offices and Post offices too,who are always > > > > > > derary looking, slow in reflexes, > > > > > > irritating to talk to, > > > > > > watchful of the clok on the wall, > > > > > > that is the closing time of the office etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) while another person doing it lovingly > > > > > > with vigour and faifhfullness. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am aware of the oxmoron used by you in > > > > > > the other Group, where at the moment, i do not > > > > > > wish to enter the thread, > > > > > > probably later, if possible, or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be interested to see the hand of > > > > > > Mr. BATA, cause I have aversion > > > > > > towards people earning money from leather > > > > > > (Between You and me, pl do not tell anyone else), > > > > > > I would prefer anyday the palm of Mr. TATA, > > > > > > but the man I liked and respected,JRD, is no more. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen many palms but never have I seen a cobbler with an > > > > > > > impressive and unafflicted fate line, truth be told! Then again, > > I > > > > > > > have not seen the palm of Mr. BATA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Laid-back and purushartha used in the same sentence for the same > > > > > > > individual are not right and just lead to creating yet another > > > > > > > oxymoron (juxtaposed paradoxes!) as I recently posted when > > > > > > > questioning the same, elsewhere: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > False Teacher > > > > > > > Gentle Dictator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aapne jo kaha woh bhi bilkul sahi hai, > > > > > > > > parantu, main samajhta hoon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like a Good fate Line in a Liftmans or > > > > > > > > a cobblers Palm would not necessarily make > > > > > > > > him a Millionare, in the sme way, a bad horoscope > > > > > > > > would not make any person go hungry. God arranges > > > > > > > > for the milk before the baby is born. > > > > > > > > The Lord Saturn rules over " Purushartha " > > > > > > > > and " Phal " , as Lord of the 10th and > > > > > > > > 11th houses respectively. Mars gets Exalted > > > > > > > > in the 10th house, not for any other reason, > > > > > > > > but because of aggression in Purushartha, > > > > > > > > which is a must. A laid back attitude in > > > > > > > > purushartha would get a person nowhere. > > > > > > > > Bhagya is a seperate matter.That is GuruKripa, > > > > > > > > ruled by the beningn Planet Jupiter. One > > > > > > > > may not have Gurukripa, does not matter, > > > > > > > > but one can have 2 times Roti with > > > > > > > > good purushartha, if not more . > > > > > > > > This is what I feel and have experienced > > > > > > > > through watching people, their palms and > > > > > > > > their charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aapney jo kaha woh theek hai aur wajib hai bhai saheb! Magar > > > > > > > USKAY > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > mayajaal mein aisey bahut hain jo bhukey sotey hain, in so > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > developed first nations! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chahey jahan paida ho insaan, bhagya say ya bhaley karmon ki > > > > > > > > wajah, > > > > > > > > > KARMA will remind his/her responsibilites! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless of the first inclination that humans face, to > > avoid > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > bypass responsibilities, through what some call " remedies " , > > > > > > > > perhaps > > > > > > > > > we should should aim for 'resolutions' ! After all, BHAGYA > > was > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > placed complementarily OPPOSITE to Purushartha in our charts > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > randomly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Rohiniji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir this happens with all of us. > > > > > > > > > > At times we see a good stuff in > > > > > > > > > > the market, and postpone the decesion > > > > > > > > > > to buy it later, and when come home in > > > > > > > > > > the evening,lament on why we did not > > > > > > > > > > purchase that,now who will go back etc..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same with alms, we see somebody lying > > > > > > > > > > somewhere whom we should have given some > > > > > > > > > > form of alms, but being busy in our > > > > > > > > > > tight schedules, we make many excuses to > > > > > > > > > > ourselves, and move on without giving > > > > > > > > > > the guy anything, only to remember that > > > > > > > > > > person later on and feel sad, as why we > > > > > > > > > > did not give him something. But > > > > > > > > > > when we feel this sadness, another thought > > > > > > > > > > simultaneously crosses the mind , " Who > > > > > > > > > > am I. Mere nahin dene se woh bhooka thodi > > > > > > > > > > hi rahega. Bhagwaan baitha hai, karodon ko > > > > > > > > > > khilata hai. Uske rajya mein koi Bhooka > > > > > > > > > > nahin sota " . This knowledge makes > > > > > > > > > > the past opportunity, we missed, > > > > > > > > > > as inconsequential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopu ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure why reading your posting instantaneously brought > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > recollection. Many years ago one late evening when I was > > > > > > > > leaving > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > home after a very tiring work day, I passed a very tall > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > > > with flowing hair and very unusual blue, penetrating but > > > > > > > > > > > compassionate eyes (in depth and compassion!) who did not > > > > > > ask > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > > verbally for help or " spare change " as pan-handlers ask > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > called developed first nations (!) but the message and > > non- > > > > > > > > > > > verbal 'request' was very strong that he was asking me > > for > > > > > > > > help! > > > > > > > > > > > There was a beauty and glow around his persona that I > > > > > > > realized > > > > > > > > > > later > > > > > > > > > > > on after I politely refused to help and moved on, > > wearily! > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > see, I am still enveloped by that fleeting and momentary > > > > > > > > > > experience! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rather than lament on a missed opportunity or whatever, > > > > > > all I > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > is to remember that moment and make good on the promise I > > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > myself! That is all we can do! Each of us, whatever our > > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > > > stories!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are all human and are blessed to be Graced with many > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > opportunities to do the right thing! Hence the multitude > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > births! > > > > > > > > > > > We are all loved by Someone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , K Gopu > > > > > > <kgopu_24@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > whenever we part with money to the needy we give it as > > > > > > > > > > > > a routine or to see that the person shud stop > > > > > > > > > > > > bothering us (be it at home or in public). > > > > > > > > > > > > after following the discussion on this subject I > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest that our helping the needy shud be done with a > > > > > > > > > > > > prayer that God shud help the needy and stop this > > > > > > > > > > > > person from resorting to begging and he/she shud also > > > > > > > > > > > > have a life like other citizens of this country. and > > > > > > > > > > > > that god shud pardon the person who would have > > > > > > > > > > > > committed sinful acts in his previous birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > > > > > > > > > > know-it-all with Mobile. 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