Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Dear Brother Jyotishis, We are all human, and most of us jyotishis unlike vedic times are striving hard to carry the sattwik burden of jyotish on our frail shoulders that are resting on the legs planted firmly into earthly, grihasta reality! The ancient Rishis and Jyotishis perhaps did not have the same challenge. Their needs were frugal and their sight was clear. Instead of pining for those Mahatmaas, let us get used to the REALITY! People will need jyotish advice and it will most likely be coming from ordinary human beings living amongst the reading seekers and in some cases perhaps experiencing the very same realities and other conditions. Let us accept that and let us just be thankful that the wisdom of Jyotish, clear or distorted or partly contaminated or whatever it has become in modern times, the 'trickle' still continues. Let us kindly and gently bring it closer to the " temple " through our steadfast intent and dedication. Let us not fight and point fingers and so on. Each of us who has gotten involved in Jyotish, seriously, and sincerely, has been challenged, abused, insulted, for whatever reasons. Every single one! Here or there or somewhere? We Jyotishis can stop this *madness* right here and now. We owe it to the nativities who would want to seek our advice and that is a task we are committed to in this lifetime, please do not make a mistake! Thank you! Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Dear Shri Rohiniranjanji, This is a beautifully worded and well advised message for us. You know very well this was not started by me.I am basically a tender hearted person full of compassion ,who does not like hurting people, I only respond when they provocate. But respecting your good advice, I now abstain from any reply to such evil souls. But Please see that they mantain the decorum of the Forum, and again do not start lashing out at me. kind regards, Bhaskar. , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Brother Jyotishis, > > We are all human, and most of us jyotishis unlike vedic times are > striving hard to carry the sattwik burden of jyotish on our frail > shoulders that are resting on the legs planted firmly into earthly, > grihasta reality! > > The ancient Rishis and Jyotishis perhaps did not have the same > challenge. Their needs were frugal and their sight was clear. > > Instead of pining for those Mahatmaas, let us get used to the REALITY! > > People will need jyotish advice and it will most likely be coming from > ordinary human beings living amongst the reading seekers and in some > cases perhaps experiencing the very same realities and other conditions. > > Let us accept that and let us just be thankful that the wisdom of > Jyotish, clear or distorted or partly contaminated or whatever it has > become in modern times, the 'trickle' still continues. Let us kindly > and gently bring it closer to the " temple " through our steadfast intent > and dedication. > > Let us not fight and point fingers and so on. Each of us who has gotten > involved in Jyotish, seriously, and sincerely, has been challenged, > abused, insulted, for whatever reasons. Every single one! Here or there > or somewhere? > > We Jyotishis can stop this *madness* right here and now. We owe it to > the nativities who would want to seek our advice and that is a task we > are committed to in this lifetime, please do not make a mistake! > > Thank you! > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Dear Rohiniranjan ji, What you have said is well taken and accepted. Every word of it. But if some one gets nasty, will not be spared and will be paid back in the same coin. If some one claims respect because he is providing free advice, then the free advice given on the forums is like samples distributed by various companies to popularise their products. Those who are providing free advice are doing so to get paid clients. One need not be grateful for that. They are giving free advice to get clients, it is not an act of charity. I would respect any astrologer who is competent, but will never respect frauds. Sincerely, Roopak , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Brother Jyotishis, > > We are all human, and most of us jyotishis unlike vedic times are > striving hard to carry the sattwik burden of jyotish on our frail > shoulders that are resting on the legs planted firmly into earthly, > grihasta reality! > > The ancient Rishis and Jyotishis perhaps did not have the same > challenge. Their needs were frugal and their sight was clear. > > Instead of pining for those Mahatmaas, let us get used to the REALITY! > > People will need jyotish advice and it will most likely be coming from > ordinary human beings living amongst the reading seekers and in some > cases perhaps experiencing the very same realities and other conditions. > > Let us accept that and let us just be thankful that the wisdom of > Jyotish, clear or distorted or partly contaminated or whatever it has > become in modern times, the 'trickle' still continues. Let us kindly > and gently bring it closer to the " temple " through our steadfast intent > and dedication. > > Let us not fight and point fingers and so on. Each of us who has gotten > involved in Jyotish, seriously, and sincerely, has been challenged, > abused, insulted, for whatever reasons. Every single one! Here or there > or somewhere? > > We Jyotishis can stop this *madness* right here and now. We owe it to > the nativities who would want to seek our advice and that is a task we > are committed to in this lifetime, please do not make a mistake! > > Thank you! > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Roopak, I dare you to pay me back in any coin You can. You are not paid back uptil now for the only reason, that You are in this Forum, where I have to mantain the code of ethics from my side. Otherwise I know well to deal with people who call me " Psychic " " Sick' and " frauds " . You are not dealing with a ordinary man here. So better You keep quiet and go home. And this " pravachan " You just gavelease give the same After introducing Yourself. You have also not yet justified your wounds which made you use those nasty words for me, for which I have yet to pay You back, but restraining myself, just wiating for you to come on some other territory. Bhaskar. , " roopak.rastogi " <roopak.rastogi wrote: > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > What you have said is well taken and accepted. Every word of it. > But if some one gets nasty, will not be spared and will be paid back > in the same coin. > If some one claims respect because he is providing free advice, then > the free advice given on the forums is like samples distributed by > various companies to popularise their products. Those who are > providing free advice are doing so to get paid clients. One need not > be grateful for that. They are giving free advice to get clients, it > is not an act of charity. > I would respect any astrologer who is competent, but will never > respect frauds. > > Sincerely, > > Roopak > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Brother Jyotishis, > > > > We are all human, and most of us jyotishis unlike vedic times are > > striving hard to carry the sattwik burden of jyotish on our frail > > shoulders that are resting on the legs planted firmly into earthly, > > grihasta reality! > > > > The ancient Rishis and Jyotishis perhaps did not have the same > > challenge. Their needs were frugal and their sight was clear. > > > > Instead of pining for those Mahatmaas, let us get used to the > REALITY! > > > > People will need jyotish advice and it will most likely be coming > from > > ordinary human beings living amongst the reading seekers and in > some > > cases perhaps experiencing the very same realities and other > conditions. > > > > Let us accept that and let us just be thankful that the wisdom of > > Jyotish, clear or distorted or partly contaminated or whatever it > has > > become in modern times, the 'trickle' still continues. Let us > kindly > > and gently bring it closer to the " temple " through our steadfast > intent > > and dedication. > > > > Let us not fight and point fingers and so on. Each of us who has > gotten > > involved in Jyotish, seriously, and sincerely, has been challenged, > > abused, insulted, for whatever reasons. Every single one! Here or > there > > or somewhere? > > > > We Jyotishis can stop this *madness* right here and now. We owe it > to > > the nativities who would want to seek our advice and that is a task > we > > are committed to in this lifetime, please do not make a mistake! > > > > Thank you! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Roopak, // But if some one gets nasty, will not be spared and will be paid back in the same coin.// This goes for you too. But Do You know you have been spared till yet ? Coz I do not wish to be removed from This Forum, is the only reason for you getting spared, and not because you are something sweet. // They are giving free advice to get clients, it is not an act of charity. // what is it then ? And what are you doing on this Forum ? A person looking for charity ? Giving Charity ? or a trouble maker ?. // the free advice given on the forums is like samples distributed by various companies to popularise their products // Seems like you did not get free advise, when you must have approached me on my personal id. So now you are getting back at me this way. Please introduce yourself and your other ids, so I will check up when you enquired of me, and I promise to reply you this time Boss. But hope you will spare me, cause I am getting scared. And do not hide behind a veil which women who have just married, do. Kindly introduce yourself, and come out with what problem you have with me. Also let us know if You are High Court judge who has retired, and now come here to judge people. Because you are now scaring me. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Roopak, > > I dare you to pay me back in any coin You can. > > You are not paid back uptil now for the only > reason, that You are in this Forum, > where I have to mantain the code of ethics > from my side. Otherwise I know well to deal > with people who call > me " Psychic " " Sick' and " frauds " . > > You are not dealing with a ordinary > man here. So better You keep quiet and go home. > > And this " pravachan " You just gavelease > give the same After introducing Yourself. > > You have also not yet justified your > wounds which made you use those > nasty words for me, for > which I have yet to pay You back, > but restraining myself, just wiating > for you to come on some other territory. > > Bhaskar. > > , " roopak.rastogi " > <roopak.rastogi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > > > What you have said is well taken and accepted. Every word of it. > > But if some one gets nasty, will not be spared and will be paid > back > > in the same coin. > > If some one claims respect because he is providing free advice, > then > > the free advice given on the forums is like samples distributed by > > various companies to popularise their products. Those who are > > providing free advice are doing so to get paid clients. One need > not > > be grateful for that. They are giving free advice to get clients, > it > > is not an act of charity. > > I would respect any astrologer who is competent, but will never > > respect frauds. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Roopak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Brother Jyotishis, > > > > > > We are all human, and most of us jyotishis unlike vedic times > are > > > striving hard to carry the sattwik burden of jyotish on our > frail > > > shoulders that are resting on the legs planted firmly into > earthly, > > > grihasta reality! > > > > > > The ancient Rishis and Jyotishis perhaps did not have the same > > > challenge. Their needs were frugal and their sight was clear. > > > > > > Instead of pining for those Mahatmaas, let us get used to the > > REALITY! > > > > > > People will need jyotish advice and it will most likely be > coming > > from > > > ordinary human beings living amongst the reading seekers and in > > some > > > cases perhaps experiencing the very same realities and other > > conditions. > > > > > > Let us accept that and let us just be thankful that the wisdom > of > > > Jyotish, clear or distorted or partly contaminated or whatever > it > > has > > > become in modern times, the 'trickle' still continues. Let us > > kindly > > > and gently bring it closer to the " temple " through our steadfast > > intent > > > and dedication. > > > > > > Let us not fight and point fingers and so on. Each of us who has > > gotten > > > involved in Jyotish, seriously, and sincerely, has been > challenged, > > > abused, insulted, for whatever reasons. Every single one! Here > or > > there > > > or somewhere? > > > > > > We Jyotishis can stop this *madness* right here and now. We owe > it > > to > > > the nativities who would want to seek our advice and that is a > task > > we > > > are committed to in this lifetime, please do not make a mistake! > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Roopak, // They are giving free advice to get clients, it is not an act of charity. // So You mean the person who replies to most of the Queries by jumping as soon as any query ciomes on each forum, is actually looking to grab clients is it not ? And you just recently supported the astrologer who wishes to grab most of the clients, by Your definition. Your supportung him also suggests and evidently reveals that You are a part of profit sharing in all the money he gets from his clients ? So does this make You a saint ? And these astrologers who are actually looking for clients, by giving free readings, if they stop their commercial interests, would you then arrange for their monthly bread butter or ration? If you can, then we will respect you, if you cannot, then just shut up. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Roopak, > > // But if some one gets nasty, will not be > spared and will be paid back in the same coin.// > > This goes for you too. > But Do You know you have been spared till yet ? > Coz I do not wish to be removed from This > Forum, is the only reason for > you getting spared, and not because > you are something sweet. > > // They are giving free advice to get clients, it > is not an act of charity. // > > what is it then ? > And what are you doing on this Forum ? > A person looking for charity ? > Giving Charity ? > or a trouble maker ?. > > > // the free advice given on the forums is like > samples distributed by various companies > to popularise their products // > > Seems like you did not get free advise, > when you must have approached me on > my personal id. So now you are getting back at me this > way. Please introduce yourself > and your other ids, so I will check up when you enquired > of me, and I promise to reply you this time Boss. But > hope you will spare me, cause I am getting scared. > > And do not hide behind a veil which women who > have just married, do. Kindly introduce yourself, and > come out with what problem you have with me. > Also let us know if You are High Court > judge who has retired, and now > come here to judge people. Because you are now > scaring me. > > Bhaskar. > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Roopak, > > > > I dare you to pay me back in any coin You can. > > > > You are not paid back uptil now for the only > > reason, that You are in this Forum, > > where I have to mantain the code of ethics > > from my side. Otherwise I know well to deal > > with people who call > > me " Psychic " " Sick' and " frauds " . > > > > You are not dealing with a ordinary > > man here. So better You keep quiet and go home. > > > > And this " pravachan " You just gavelease > > give the same After introducing Yourself. > > > > You have also not yet justified your > > wounds which made you use those > > nasty words for me, for > > which I have yet to pay You back, > > but restraining myself, just wiating > > for you to come on some other territory. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " roopak.rastogi " > > <roopak.rastogi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > > > > > What you have said is well taken and accepted. Every word of it. > > > But if some one gets nasty, will not be spared and will be paid > > back > > > in the same coin. > > > If some one claims respect because he is providing free advice, > > then > > > the free advice given on the forums is like samples distributed > by > > > various companies to popularise their products. Those who are > > > providing free advice are doing so to get paid clients. One need > > not > > > be grateful for that. They are giving free advice to get > clients, > > it > > > is not an act of charity. > > > I would respect any astrologer who is competent, but will never > > > respect frauds. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Roopak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Brother Jyotishis, > > > > > > > > We are all human, and most of us jyotishis unlike vedic times > > are > > > > striving hard to carry the sattwik burden of jyotish on our > > frail > > > > shoulders that are resting on the legs planted firmly into > > earthly, > > > > grihasta reality! > > > > > > > > The ancient Rishis and Jyotishis perhaps did not have the same > > > > challenge. Their needs were frugal and their sight was clear. > > > > > > > > Instead of pining for those Mahatmaas, let us get used to the > > > REALITY! > > > > > > > > People will need jyotish advice and it will most likely be > > coming > > > from > > > > ordinary human beings living amongst the reading seekers and > in > > > some > > > > cases perhaps experiencing the very same realities and other > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > Let us accept that and let us just be thankful that the wisdom > > of > > > > Jyotish, clear or distorted or partly contaminated or whatever > > it > > > has > > > > become in modern times, the 'trickle' still continues. Let us > > > kindly > > > > and gently bring it closer to the " temple " through our > steadfast > > > intent > > > > and dedication. > > > > > > > > Let us not fight and point fingers and so on. Each of us who > has > > > gotten > > > > involved in Jyotish, seriously, and sincerely, has been > > challenged, > > > > abused, insulted, for whatever reasons. Every single one! Here > > or > > > there > > > > or somewhere? > > > > > > > > We Jyotishis can stop this *madness* right here and now. We > owe > > it > > > to > > > > the nativities who would want to seek our advice and that is a > > task > > > we > > > > are committed to in this lifetime, please do not make a > mistake! > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Roopak, // Those who are providing free advice are doing so to get paid clients. One need notbe grateful for that .. They are giving free advice to get clients, it is not an act of charity.I would respect any astrologer who is competent, but will never respect frauds.// What a funny observation from a self made Judge, who is unkown . All those astrologers who charge Fees, are Frauds, and all those who do it without charging are to be respected ? Who has going to supply bread and butter to these respected astrologers,kindly state Sir ? Are you going to take this responsibility ? But all this talks coming from a unknown strangerdoes not make sense. We are not here to justify ourselves . Please introduce yourself, name,place phone no. and acdemic and professional qualifications and your other ids, for it all to make sense, and for you to be listened to. Also state the reasons why You called me " Psychic' " Sick " and " Fraud " . Is the Moderator listening ? Why has he allowed this person here, who is causing provocations and personal attacks, to remove Bhaskar ? Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Roopak, > > // They are giving free advice to get clients, > it is not an act of charity. // > > So You mean the person who replies to most > of the Queries by jumping as soon as any query > ciomes on each forum, is actually > looking to grab clients is it not ? > And you just recently supported the astrologer > who wishes to grab most of the clients, by Your > definition. Your supportung him also suggests and > evidently reveals that You are a part of profit > sharing in all the money he gets from his clients ? > So does this make You a saint ? > > > And these astrologers who are actually looking > for clients, by giving free readings, if they > stop their commercial interests, would you then > arrange for their monthly bread butter or ration? > If you can, then we will respect you, if you > cannot, then just shut up. > > Bhaskar. > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Roopak, > > > > // But if some one gets nasty, will not be > > spared and will be paid back in the same coin.// > > > > This goes for you too. > > But Do You know you have been spared till yet ? > > Coz I do not wish to be removed from This > > Forum, is the only reason for > > you getting spared, and not because > > you are something sweet. > > > > // They are giving free advice to get clients, it > > is not an act of charity. // > > > > what is it then ? > > And what are you doing on this Forum ? > > A person looking for charity ? > > Giving Charity ? > > or a trouble maker ?. > > > > > > // the free advice given on the forums is like > > samples distributed by various companies > > to popularise their products // > > > > Seems like you did not get free advise, > > when you must have approached me on > > my personal id. So now you are getting back at me this > > way. Please introduce yourself > > and your other ids, so I will check up when you enquired > > of me, and I promise to reply you this time Boss. But > > hope you will spare me, cause I am getting scared. > > > > And do not hide behind a veil which women who > > have just married, do. Kindly introduce yourself, and > > come out with what problem you have with me. > > Also let us know if You are High Court > > judge who has retired, and now > > come here to judge people. Because you are now > > scaring me. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Roopak, > > > > > > I dare you to pay me back in any coin You can. > > > > > > You are not paid back uptil now for the only > > > reason, that You are in this Forum, > > > where I have to mantain the code of ethics > > > from my side. Otherwise I know well to deal > > > with people who call > > > me " Psychic " " Sick' and " frauds " . > > > > > > You are not dealing with a ordinary > > > man here. So better You keep quiet and go home. > > > > > > And this " pravachan " You just gavelease > > > give the same After introducing Yourself. > > > > > > You have also not yet justified your > > > wounds which made you use those > > > nasty words for me, for > > > which I have yet to pay You back, > > > but restraining myself, just wiating > > > for you to come on some other territory. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " roopak.rastogi " > > > <roopak.rastogi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > > > > > > > What you have said is well taken and accepted. Every word of > it. > > > > But if some one gets nasty, will not be spared and will be > paid > > > back > > > > in the same coin. > > > > If some one claims respect because he is providing free > advice, > > > then > > > > the free advice given on the forums is like samples > distributed > > by > > > > various companies to popularise their products. Those who are > > > > providing free advice are doing so to get paid clients. One > need > > > not > > > > be grateful for that. They are giving free advice to get > > clients, > > > it > > > > is not an act of charity. > > > > I would respect any astrologer who is competent, but will > never > > > > respect frauds. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Roopak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Brother Jyotishis, > > > > > > > > > > We are all human, and most of us jyotishis unlike vedic > times > > > are > > > > > striving hard to carry the sattwik burden of jyotish on our > > > frail > > > > > shoulders that are resting on the legs planted firmly into > > > earthly, > > > > > grihasta reality! > > > > > > > > > > The ancient Rishis and Jyotishis perhaps did not have the > same > > > > > challenge. Their needs were frugal and their sight was clear. > > > > > > > > > > Instead of pining for those Mahatmaas, let us get used to > the > > > > REALITY! > > > > > > > > > > People will need jyotish advice and it will most likely be > > > coming > > > > from > > > > > ordinary human beings living amongst the reading seekers and > > in > > > > some > > > > > cases perhaps experiencing the very same realities and other > > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > Let us accept that and let us just be thankful that the > wisdom > > > of > > > > > Jyotish, clear or distorted or partly contaminated or > whatever > > > it > > > > has > > > > > become in modern times, the 'trickle' still continues. Let > us > > > > kindly > > > > > and gently bring it closer to the " temple " through our > > steadfast > > > > intent > > > > > and dedication. > > > > > > > > > > Let us not fight and point fingers and so on. Each of us who > > has > > > > gotten > > > > > involved in Jyotish, seriously, and sincerely, has been > > > challenged, > > > > > abused, insulted, for whatever reasons. Every single one! > Here > > > or > > > > there > > > > > or somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > We Jyotishis can stop this *madness* right here and now. We > > owe > > > it > > > > to > > > > > the nativities who would want to seek our advice and that is > a > > > task > > > > we > > > > > are committed to in this lifetime, please do not make a > > mistake! > > > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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