Fwd: The difference with Hinduism

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, " Narasimha Rao " <pvr wrote:

 

Dear Sri Kursija,

 

You make a good point - without basic comforts in life, it is

difficult to perform spiritual sadhana. There are so many who are

not in a position to perform any sadhana. There is no point in

lecturing about God to a starving person. Well, the haves should try

to help the havenots.

 

BTW, Manish is not a karmakandi pandit or priest as you assumed. He

is a medical doctor and a Yogi. Pandit is his surname.

 

I know Manish quite well and know the compassion he has for the

people you mention. Your displeasure is perhaps misdirected.

Manish's current message is for a different set of people and it is

an important message too.

 

There are so many people in this world who are well off and yet

don't spend much time on spiritual sadhana. They are concerned about

their salary, raises, promotions, wife, children, house, cars etc

and life finishes before they know it. Punya from the past lives may

have awarded one with material blessings in this life, but there is

no guarantee the same will happen again! After squandering the

opportunity to do some sadhana in this life, one may be placed in a

different situation in the next life and sadhana may be more

difficult.

 

Each journey on this earth in a mortal body is an opportunity to

accumulate more punya for future journeys and, if possible, be

liberated. People who rejoice in their material blessings and do no

serious sadhana are akin to those who are living off a bank balance

built in the past (they don't even know how much it is and when it

will be exhausted) and do not work and build it further. Such people

turn to god only when a major calamity strikes, but it may be too

late.

 

And then, there are so many scholars learned in scriptures etc and

proud of their superficial learning, but without a true

understanding. Even without having ever actually heard music, one

can read many volumes of books on musical notes and raagas and go on

discussing musical raagas. What good is it, until one actually

*hears* music and *experiences* it? If a country that was once

filled with many brilliant singers suddenly becomes barren of

singers and becomes filled with theoretical discussions on music,

people may lose interest and think that music is a useless subject

(much like some people think about religion and spirituality today).

All you need to revive interest in music is simply to teach singing

to some. When they become good singers, they evoke further interest

in people around them. Symbolically speaking, that is what I think

Manish is trying to do.

 

The proof of the pudding is in eating it. The proof of divinity is

in experiencing it directly. India was once filled with those who

experienced the divine. Well, I see the future being brighter than

the present, though it may not match the past.

 

If one spends 2-3 hours everyday chanting a specific mantra

mentally, around the same time of the day, sitting in the same

place, facing the same direction, with a comfortable sitting

posture, an erect back and head, closed eyes, no motion of the body

to the extent possible, while following brahmacharya for the

duration of the practice, I am sure one will experience something

within a few months (depending on the previous karmas/vasanas and

how ripe one already is).

 

If you find Manish's advice inspiring, I suggest that you should not

leave it there. Please re-read his mail and actually go ahead and

take a challenge and do one of the things he mentioned. Or simply

pick some other mantra (ANY amntra, say Gayatri or panchakshari or

dwadasakshari - atma karaka in navamsa can be seen) and do as I said

above. Unless one pushes oneself initially, spiritual sadhana will

not take off. We are all capable of doing a lot more than we

normally do. We just let lethargy dominate.

 

I can tell you that Manish is not a normal soul. It is the fortune

of those here that a specific instruction came out of his mind in

vaikhari form (spoken/wirtten word). There is a difference between

doing a sadhana and doing a sadhana based on the instruction in

*vaikhari* form from someone like Manish.

 

I read the lists very rarely these days and today was one of those

days. I am off now. I will see you all later. Have fun pursuing

Jyotish and spirituality.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

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> Respected Pandit ji,

> I do not know which type of pandit your are. highly

> educated and learned pandit or puja-pathi pandit

> (karma kandi pandit)According to my experience you

> look like a puja-pathi pandita, living in UK.Pandit

> living in UK must be having good source of income.You

> may not be knowing that in India 70% of population

> sleep without food at night, what you say of clothing,

> shelter,medical help and education.With all these

> powers for which you are advocating India remain slave

> to Mugals for thousands of years and two hundreds year

> under British empires.Where were your super-natural

> power? Why these powers are not able to remove poverty

> of India

> Every where you will find Mandirs and pandits

> worshiping and clothing the beautiful images of

> God.They can give you food and comforts, but not to

> public.The public will get food, health and shelter

> when they will get jobs.They will do Karma, not

> worship.The worship gives mental peace not physical

> health.The physical health will come through yoga and

> medicine.If you wants to be happy, first thing is to

> be healthy and earn money.

> I do not want to stretch socio-economic conditions and

> customs prevailing in India.I have come to know

> recentally to my surprise that some peoples from

> different state remove the hairs of their daughter in

> laws who become widow and leave them at Brindabad,

> Mathra (a tourist spot with so many ashrams and

> temples) at the mercy of the pandits. They make them

> beg for their lively hood. What to say of poor people

> in villages?

> It is not my intention to hurt some one. I beg pardon

> if I have said some thing harsh and not to the taste

> of some one. But these are the facts.I am sorry.

> --- mmpandit2003 <mmpandit2003@> wrote:

>

> > Dear all,

> >

> > In the vedic faith if you just carry on with your

> > dharma then you will

> > progress.

> > I read somebodies mail that we follow rituals

> > blindly, well let me tell

> > your a small story.

> > If you say anything in Sanskrit, you become that

> > " Kita Bhramara Nyaya "

> > Not that you get what you repeat , but that you

> > actually become that.

> > Now if your desire to become what you repeat is good

> > and if you

> > visualise what you repeat, well, then you become

> > what you repeat ( may

> > take some time depending on what your ability to

> > follow the restrictions

> > of

> > Samaya

> > Sthana

> > Samagri

> > Sankhya

> > Samyama- mainly Brahmacharya and for what what

> > length of time you are

> > able to maintain these)

> > They say that there are seven Chiranjeevis, and I

> > am sure that all of

> > you can enumerate them, but just for the old

> > gentleman who has a library

> > full of books , forget about your books, treat my

> > words like the truth

> > and follow the following( Indeed anybody who wants

> > to experience this

> > following the niyamas mentioned above can try it)

> > Recite Hanuman Chalisa 51 times every day for 121

> > days keeping

> > Brahmacharya and no shaving and see what happens. It

> > will take you at

> > least 2 hours proper recitation, end it with silent

> > Rama Nama japa, and

> > do not move during this japa at least , face North.

> > Then you can get a pramana that Hanuman is a

> > Chiranjeevi.

> >

> > Or if you can read Sanskrit well, then do the

> > following,

> > Read Durga Saptashati once in the morning from

> > Sanarni surya Tanayo to

> > the end ( will take an hour at top speed) and once

> > at night for 100

> > days. This latter sadhana is bit more dangerous in

> > that if you take a

> > sankalpa and dont keep it then I am not responsible

> > for what happens to

> > you. See what happens from the 40-50th day onwards.

> > Alternately do two

> > Chandi homams a day and see what happens. But you

> > have to do these

> > yourself.

> > See the problem is that nobody does jwalita sadhana,

> > they all talk about

> > theory.

> > There is no practise and life goes by, suddenly

> > Mahakala arrives and

> > then what , He did not give the avatars time to say

> > anything much, what

> > will He give ordinary mortals.

> > Best to do serious sadhana and then one does not

> > need to do anything

> > else once the deity of the sadhana starts to come

> > and visit you.

> >

> > See the difference between Hinduism and other

> > faiths( and India in

> > general), is that others worship messiahs , Hinduism

> > shows you how to

> > create them.

> >

> >

> > Dr. Manish Pandit

> > www.gajanan.info

> > www.jyotishashastra.org

> > www.shreerudram.com

> > www.gajanana.co.uk

 

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