Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 dear friends the anguish and hurt feelings caused to any devout hindu who revers lord rama, is understood. however, before jumping to judgement on sreenadhji's observation, one must do homework and convince himself that sreenadhji was saying from his own mind and not refering any book. sreenadhji mentioned in his article that he is merely producing the verses 33 onwards from the balakandam of valmiki ramayan. unfortunately i do not have the comprehensive valmiki ramayan which has both sanskrit slokas and hindi or english translations. hence i did a google search and found the following url http://www.valmikiramayan.net in this valmiki ramayana online edition, under balakandam, chapter 14, verse 34 mentions about what sreenadhji has written. however, the translation of the book may not exactly mean what it is perceived negatively, as it merely says kausalya slept with the horse. there is another online edition of valmiki ramayana available at the sacred-texts.com and there too, the gist is same but interpretations vary. if someone feels that these online editions are wrong, then he may kindly refer the original sanskrit valmiki ramayan and search if these verses in the balakandam really speak such language. only upon confirmation of not finding these verses in all valmiki ramayan editions, one can hold the publisher of this edition wrong. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Members, > > the position taken by Pt Arjun is the right one-facts must be established first then defeat and corner the villians lets get the publisher's name from the horses mouth and deal with him after it > > any other Jihadi action is not HINDU like either, though he has erred, this line can be seen from the Samantakamani episode in Srimad Bhagavatham when the lord Kirshna himself was accused of stealing the gem, he first got the facts proved then dealt it straight this is a fair line for us humans too, we r not Islamic or talibanic in nature to ask for someones' blood, head etc and those who commit sins by accusing such revered figures will suffer in this life, and lives to come we need not reduce his sin by spreading his fiction till then > > > > best wishes > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friend > > the fact is mr. sreenadh has written nothing in this group that > warrants this group owner to ban sreenadh. > > neither sreenadhji's mails on this subject nor the files you are > referring have anything to do with this group. > > as regards taking a moral posture, i too agree with you that the > observation is in a bad taste especially when it speaks bad about > lord rama's mother. however, you must remember that sreenadhji is > merely saying that he is quoting this from the ramayana balakanda > version. so, if you are sincere in stopping this bane, you must ask > sreenadhji to kindly give the name and publisher of that book and > then CONTEND with that publisher. if a publisher really published > such book, i am sure that book would be banned if you refer this to > VHP as this book hurts the sentiments of all those who put lord rama > in high esteem. if sreenadhji fails to mention the name and > publisher of that book and says that it is his own opinion, then only > you can say that sreenadhji's observation is bad. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , " astroiniket " > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > pandit ji , i just checked, i rcvd mail on my outlook may be > through > > some fake id- i did not checked that file is in this group, but > > whatever i thought that shrinadh is member of this group also, so i > > asked to mr. Tanveer. > > > > but what ever he wrote that is not good it is worst stage of mind, > i > > do not think any one can think like this, so as moral of all > > religious ppl all have to opose to this act. > > > > rgds > > niket > > , " panditarjun2004 " > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > mr.sreenadh has written something in his group which is not this > > > group. mr. sreenadh has written any thing in this group at all. > > why > > > are you asking this group owner to ban a person in this group who > > has > > > not written anything in this group. > > > > > > if at all you find the matter of sreenadh's mail objectionable > and > > > needs banning in this group, you shall demand a ban on the person > > who > > > is pasting such objectionable post from another group in this > group. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear tanveer, i think pls check this, if this is true pls ban > > this > > > > type of people who are doing crime, playing with emotions of > > > people. > > > > i think you will understand, this type of things will be > against > > > the > > > > religion. it may be any religion, we should respect all dharma, > > and > > > > all mahapurusha may be born in any dharma. > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > niket > > > > > > > > , Lokendra Singh > > > > <kondhera@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE STOP ALL THIS,PLEASE THINK POSITIVE AND LOGICAL,WHO > > SAID > > > > WHAT IS NOT OUR CONCERN TRY AND LEARN GOOD THINGS FROM THIS > GROUP > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > Rao Lokendra Singh Kondhera > > > > > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help taking action against Srinadh and also against > > Srinivas > > > > and > > > > > Sunil Nair Ji, if these two peopplestill supports srinadh, he > > > > banned me > > > > > in his group therefore i m not > > > > > able to reply to him - > > > > > > > > > > He has uploaded one file in his file section in which along > with > > > > > astrology he says Kaushalya Slept with hose to give birth to > > Lord > > > > Rama. > > > > > Pls. check following notice. > > > > > > > > > > Can we lodge a report in police against him ? > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > > > > > > > > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > File : /Sreenadh/Birth of Rama and brothers.pdf > > > > > > > > > > Uploaded by : sreesog <sreesog@ > > > > > </post? > > > > postID=6cy3tqeogL60BQax\ > > > > > rVr6KnkRw-GfovK0Fn-OVHko0R8oydqsD- gjwJWfiDaI0wyOtRa_l8GX10zo- > > 5s> > > > > > > > > > > > Description : Article about the birth and horoscope of Rama > and > > > > > brothers > > > > > > > > > > You can access this file at the URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh/ > > > > Bi\ > > > > > \ > > > > > rth%20of%20Rama%20and%20brothers.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Sreenadh > > > > /B\ > > > > > irth%20of%20Rama%20and%20brothers.pdf> > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: > > > > > > > > > > http://help./help/us/groups/files > > > > > <http://help./help/us/groups/files> > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > sreesog <sreesog@ > > > > > </post? > > > > postID=6cy3tqeogL60BQax\ > > > > > rVr6KnkRw-GfovK0Fn-OVHko0R8oydqsD- gjwJWfiDaI0wyOtRa_l8GX10zo- > > 5s> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Shri Panditji (and Prashantji), Pranams. And due respect to You. Before You read this further, please remind Yourself that this is not a personal clash between you and me, but a clash of views. You have advised people not to jump to conclusions before reading the Original version of Valmiki Ramayana. Then how can You comment Yourself or advise others that they are wrong before You yourself do this. You have also quoted that You have read one version on Google - // in this valmiki ramayana online edition, under balakandam, chapter 14, verse 34 mentions about what sreenadhji has written. however, the translation of the book may not exactly mean what it is perceived negatively, as it merely says kausalya slept with the horse.// This statement from you clearly states that the perception of the translator is negatively done, since you have also mentioned that - // it merely says kausalya slept with the horse.// does merely sleeping means having sex ? I ask You . Does sleeping of a boy with his mother imply their having sex together ? Does sleeping of a father with a daughter imply having sex together ? Does sleeping of a brother and sister imply having sex together ? (If the answer is No, then how could the translator translate this as Mata Kaushalya slept and had sex with a horse, to give birth to Shri Rama ? And this translator has not used the words which I have used " Mata " or " Shri " ) In Ashwamedha Yagna the Rajas had to perform many formalities with the Horses involvement, which may also have one of the formality of sleeping one night with the horse. Did this mean that we " Mudh " should imply that the Raja was having sex with the horses ? A person who does pooja of Griha pravesh in a new house, has to sleep there in the new house on day of Pooja for one night. Does it mean that he has sex with the walls of the house ? Why are we trying to save blasphemy ? Why are we trying to show our big hearts where it is not needed? Why are we trying to show our magnamousity which is unintended for this occasion and not required ? Why are we trying to save evil ? Why are we trying to look good ? Why are we trying to play upto people to keep a good image ? Evil is evil. There is no compromise. For any religion blasphemy is not good. We respect all religions and nowhere should such utterances be allowed whether in Christianity or Moslem religion or in Sikhism or any other. then why are we trying to show tolerance, which has spoiled India and made it, what it is today ? Such type of caretakers of our religion and caretaking has spoiled this religion and made it a soft target for people like MF Hussein, Salman Rushdie and also many who show only poverty of India and the negatives to the world, because we ourselves are not unified and have so many differences of opinions. Please I request all true Hindus and good people from all religions to be true to Yourself, your consciousness and to Your Gods. None should show generousity where not needed, and everyone should be strong to oppose evil and face it with all might. I thank The owner and the Moderator Shr Tanveerji for his unbiased stand for allowing this post and my previous one too, which shows his broad mindedness and freedom of speech to all, which should not be utilised wrongly to make a certain sect happy by opposing own pillars on which we stand. I also thank him that though he himself is a very good astrologer, much better than most here, and having his own services for astrology or Yagna requirements, yet he allows everyone to do business over here, on His Forum, allows websites, allows all types of posts which have products to sell, and has given this platform to make money for many people though he himself is not taking part in this. Such type of unselfishnes can be called broad mindedness, and not what has been shown by You people. You cannot defend your own religion, then how can You stand for anyone else ? How can You help others ? Mr prashant has said that we are not Islamists or Talibans to call for peoples heads etc. I would any time side with the Islamists and the Talibans if they are defending blasphemy on their Religious Gods. Here we all have to be secular, in no way such type of utterances have to be allowed for any one , be it of any religion. This type of utterance means cutting ones Fathers heart and drinking blood and making merry. Which religion would allow this ? And why should anyone allow this. In no way would I support this against any religion. All men are basically same with same blood and we have the right to respect our own and others Fathers and Gods, but we have no right to talk in a derogatory manner about any. The above was not personal, but clearly implies that I disapprove any form of allowing the culprit to runaway behind a open door kept open by someone from our own group. regards, Bhaskar. , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > the anguish and hurt feelings caused to any devout hindu who revers > lord rama, is understood. however, before jumping to judgement on > sreenadhji's observation, one must do homework and convince himself > that sreenadhji was saying from his own mind and not refering any > book. sreenadhji mentioned in his article that he is merely > producing the verses 33 onwards from the balakandam of valmiki > ramayan. > > unfortunately i do not have the comprehensive valmiki ramayan which > has both sanskrit slokas and hindi or english translations. hence i > did a google search and found the following url > > http://www.valmikiramayan.net > > in this valmiki ramayana online edition, under balakandam, chapter > 14, verse 34 mentions about what sreenadhji has written. however, > the translation of the book may not exactly mean what it is perceived > negatively, as it merely says kausalya slept with the horse. > > there is another online edition of valmiki ramayana available at the > sacred-texts.com and there too, the gist is same but interpretations > vary. > > if someone feels that these online editions are wrong, then he may > kindly refer the original sanskrit valmiki ramayan and search if > these verses in the balakandam really speak such language. only upon > confirmation of not finding these verses in all valmiki ramayan > editions, one can hold the publisher of this edition wrong. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > the position taken by Pt Arjun is the right one-facts must be > established first then defeat and corner the villians lets get the > publisher's name from the horses mouth and deal with him after it > > > > any other Jihadi action is not HINDU like either, though he has > erred, this line can be seen from the Samantakamani episode in Srimad > Bhagavatham when the lord Kirshna himself was accused of stealing the > gem, he first got the facts proved then dealt it straight this is a > fair line for us humans too, we r not Islamic or talibanic in nature > to ask for someones' blood, head etc and those who commit sins by > accusing such revered figures will suffer in this life, and lives to > come we need not reduce his sin by spreading his fiction till then > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> > wrote: dear friend > > > > the fact is mr. sreenadh has written nothing in this group that > > warrants this group owner to ban sreenadh. > > > > neither sreenadhji's mails on this subject nor the files you are > > referring have anything to do with this group. > > > > as regards taking a moral posture, i too agree with you that the > > observation is in a bad taste especially when it speaks bad about > > lord rama's mother. however, you must remember that sreenadhji is > > merely saying that he is quoting this from the ramayana balakanda > > version. so, if you are sincere in stopping this bane, you must > ask > > sreenadhji to kindly give the name and publisher of that book and > > then CONTEND with that publisher. if a publisher really published > > such book, i am sure that book would be banned if you refer this > to > > VHP as this book hurts the sentiments of all those who put lord > rama > > in high esteem. if sreenadhji fails to mention the name and > > publisher of that book and says that it is his own opinion, then > only > > you can say that sreenadhji's observation is bad. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , " astroiniket " > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > pandit ji , i just checked, i rcvd mail on my outlook may be > > through > > > some fake id- i did not checked that file is in this group, but > > > whatever i thought that shrinadh is member of this group also, > so i > > > asked to mr. Tanveer. > > > > > > but what ever he wrote that is not good it is worst stage of > mind, > > i > > > do not think any one can think like this, so as moral of all > > > religious ppl all have to opose to this act. > > > > > > rgds > > > niket > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > mr.sreenadh has written something in his group which is not > this > > > > group. mr. sreenadh has written any thing in this group at > all. > > > why > > > > are you asking this group owner to ban a person in this group > who > > > has > > > > not written anything in this group. > > > > > > > > if at all you find the matter of sreenadh's mail objectionable > > and > > > > needs banning in this group, you shall demand a ban on the > person > > > who > > > > is pasting such objectionable post from another group in this > > group. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear tanveer, i think pls check this, if this is true pls > ban > > > this > > > > > type of people who are doing crime, playing with emotions of > > > > people. > > > > > i think you will understand, this type of things will be > > against > > > > the > > > > > religion. it may be any religion, we should respect all > dharma, > > > and > > > > > all mahapurusha may be born in any dharma. > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > , Lokendra Singh > > > > > <kondhera@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE STOP ALL THIS,PLEASE THINK POSITIVE AND > LOGICAL,WHO > > > SAID > > > > > WHAT IS NOT OUR CONCERN TRY AND LEARN GOOD THINGS FROM THIS > > GROUP > > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > > Rao Lokendra Singh Kondhera > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help taking action against Srinadh and also against > > > Srinivas > > > > > and > > > > > > Sunil Nair Ji, if these two peopplestill supports srinadh, > he > > > > > banned me > > > > > > in his group therefore i m not > > > > > > able to reply to him - > > > > > > > > > > > > He has uploaded one file in his file section in which > along > > with > > > > > > astrology he says Kaushalya Slept with hose to give birth > to > > > Lord > > > > > Rama. > > > > > > Pls. check following notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we lodge a report in police against him ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > > > > > > > > > > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > File : /Sreenadh/Birth of Rama and brothers.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > Uploaded by : sreesog <sreesog@ > > > > > > </post? > > > > > postID=6cy3tqeogL60BQax\ > > > > > > rVr6KnkRw-GfovK0Fn-OVHko0R8oydqsD- > gjwJWfiDaI0wyOtRa_l8GX10zo- > > > 5s> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Description : Article about the birth and horoscope of > Rama > > and > > > > > > brothers > > > > > > > > > > > > You can access this file at the URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh/ > > > > > Bi\ > > > > > > \ > > > > > > rth%20of%20Rama%20and%20brothers.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Sreenadh > > > > > /B\ > > > > > > irth%20of%20Rama%20and%20brothers.pdf> > > > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please > visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://help./help/us/groups/files > > > > > > <http://help./help/us/groups/files> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > sreesog <sreesog@ > > > > > > </post? > > > > > postID=6cy3tqeogL60BQax\ > > > > > > rVr6KnkRw-GfovK0Fn-OVHko0R8oydqsD- > gjwJWfiDaI0wyOtRa_l8GX10zo- > > > 5s> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 dear bhaskarji this diwali marks the return of lord rama to his kingdom and may lord rama's blessings be on all of us. as regards the translation of " slept with the horse " from original sanskrit to english or hindi, this is what is written in the online version of a printed version. if upon checking with the other printed versions of sanskrit valmiki ramayana(which i have not done), you find the translation not in line with what sreenadhji has said, then surely this demeaning translation is bad and those who publicised it must be apologetic. anyway having understood the hurt sentiments of ram lovers, sreenadhji has removed that file from his group and closed that thread. you may appreciate freedom of expression and speech as constitutional rights of any and every human. if mr. salman rushdie writes his own translation of some verses from koran and mulsims feel hurt, it is no sin as he is doing his own translation or understanding of the verses. mr. arun shourie as editor of indian express wrote several articles then with heading " but what about the verses themselves " and produced exact arabic verses and their true english translations. many verses (not all) translated in rushdie's novel are the same as they are in koran. the indian government itslef committed to the apex court in writing that lord rama is a myth and they dont believe in any bridge that was created for or by rama. can you fix any one person for this government and ask for action, no. karunanidhi says that rama is an arya and was against the culture of the dravids. coincidentally karunanidhi is a part of the present government which says rama is a myth. i do know some social text books published by the indian government mention rama as a king of ayodhya and narrated both ramayana and mahabharat as itihasa i.e. history. nowhere in these academic curriculum papers, the governemnt portray rama as a myth. hence, you shall find fault with the online edition as well as the printed edition of the ramayana which says kausalya has slept with the horse and ask them to elaborate what this means so that the clarity comes from the horse's mouth. one incident or one happening shall never be a driver for forming an opinion or seeking action. once sage bhrigu kicked lord vishnu by foot. lord vishnu did not kill sage bhrigu with his sudarshana chakra and, instead washed and pressed the feet of bhrigu. later bhrigu realises the greatness of vishnu and pronounces him as the best among the holy trinity. to repay this gratitude, it is believed that bhrigu appears as guha and wahsed the feet of lord rama later. hope the above story testifies the exemplary kindness shown by lord vishnu (rama) whose words we all follow. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Shri Panditji (and Prashantji), > > Pranams. > And due respect to You. > > Before You read this further, please remind Yourself that this is not a > personal clash between you and me, but a clash of views. > > You have advised people not to jump to conclusions before reading the > Original version of Valmiki Ramayana. Then how can You comment > Yourself or advise others that they are wrong before You yourself do this. > > You have also quoted that You have read one version on Google - > > // in this valmiki ramayana online edition, under balakandam, chapter > 14, verse 34 mentions about what sreenadhji has written. however, > the translation of the book may not exactly mean what it is perceived > negatively, as it merely says kausalya slept with the horse.// > > This statement from you clearly states that the perception of the > translator is negatively done, since you have also mentioned that - > > // it merely says kausalya slept with the horse.// > > does merely sleeping means having sex ? I ask You . > Does sleeping of a boy with his mother imply > their having sex together ? > Does sleeping of a father with a daughter imply having > sex together ? > Does sleeping of a brother and sister imply > having sex together ? > (If the answer is No, then how could the translator translate this as > Mata Kaushalya slept and had sex with a horse, to give birth to Shri > Rama ? And this translator has not used > the words which I have used " Mata " or " Shri " ) > > In Ashwamedha Yagna the Rajas had to perform many formalities > with the Horses involvement, which may also have one of the formality > of sleeping one night with the horse. > Did this mean that we " Mudh " should imply that the Raja was > having sex with the horses ? > > A person who does pooja of Griha pravesh in a new house, > has to sleep there in the new house > on day of Pooja for one night. > Does it mean that he has sex with the walls of the house ? > > Why are we trying to save blasphemy ? > Why are we trying to show our big hearts where it is not needed? > Why are we trying to show our magnamousity which is unintended > for this occasion and not required ? > > Why are we trying to save evil ? > Why are we trying to look good ? > Why are we trying to play upto people > to keep a good image ? > > Evil is evil. > There is no compromise. > > For any religion blasphemy is not good. > We respect all religions and nowhere should such > utterances be allowed whether in Christianity > or Moslem religion or in Sikhism or any other. > then why are we trying to show tolerance, > which has spoiled India and made it, > what it is today ? > > Such type of caretakers of our religion and caretaking has spoiled > this religion and made it a soft target for people like > MF Hussein, Salman Rushdie and also many who show only poverty > of India and the negatives to the world, because we ourselves are not > unified and have so many differences of opinions. > Please I request all true Hindus and good people from all religions to > be true to Yourself, your consciousness and to Your Gods. > > None should show generousity where not needed, and everyone should > be strong to oppose evil and face it with all might. > > I thank The owner and the Moderator Shr Tanveerji for his > unbiased stand for allowing this post and my previous one too, > which shows his broad mindedness and freedom of > speech to all, which should not be utilised wrongly to > make a certain sect happy by opposing own > pillars on which we stand. I also thank him that though he himself > is a very good astrologer, much better than most here, > and having his own services for astrology or Yagna requirements, > yet he allows everyone to do business over here, on His Forum, > allows websites, allows all types of posts which have products to sell, > and has given this platform to make money for many people > though he himself is not taking part in this. > > Such type of unselfishnes can be called broad mindedness, and > not what has been shown by You people. > You cannot defend your own religion, then how can You stand for > anyone else ? How can You help others ? > > Mr prashant has said that we are not Islamists or Talibans > to call for peoples heads etc. I would any time side with the Islamists > and the Talibans if they are defending blasphemy on their Religious Gods. > Here we all have to be secular, in no way such type of utterances have to > be allowed for any one , be it of any religion. This type of utterance > means > cutting ones Fathers heart and drinking blood and making merry. > Which religion would allow this ? And why should anyone allow this. > In no way would I support this against any religion. All men are basically > same with same blood and we have the right to respect our own and others > Fathers and Gods, but we have no right to talk in a derogatory manner > about > any. > > The above was not personal, but clearly implies that I disapprove > any form of allowing the culprit to runaway behind a open door kept > open by someone from our own group. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > the anguish and hurt feelings caused to any devout hindu who revers > > lord rama, is understood. however, before jumping to judgement on > > sreenadhji's observation, one must do homework and convince himself > > that sreenadhji was saying from his own mind and not refering any > > book. sreenadhji mentioned in his article that he is merely > > producing the verses 33 onwards from the balakandam of valmiki > > ramayan. > > > > unfortunately i do not have the comprehensive valmiki ramayan which > > has both sanskrit slokas and hindi or english translations. hence i > > did a google search and found the following url > > > > http://www.valmikiramayan.net > > > > in this valmiki ramayana online edition, under balakandam, chapter > > 14, verse 34 mentions about what sreenadhji has written. however, > > the translation of the book may not exactly mean what it is perceived > > negatively, as it merely says kausalya slept with the horse. > > > > there is another online edition of valmiki ramayana available at the > > sacred-texts.com and there too, the gist is same but interpretations > > vary. > > > > if someone feels that these online editions are wrong, then he may > > kindly refer the original sanskrit valmiki ramayan and search if > > these verses in the balakandam really speak such language. only upon > > confirmation of not finding these verses in all valmiki ramayan > > editions, one can hold the publisher of this edition wrong. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > the position taken by Pt Arjun is the right one-facts must be > > established first then defeat and corner the villians lets get the > > publisher's name from the horses mouth and deal with him after it > > > > > > any other Jihadi action is not HINDU like either, though he has > > erred, this line can be seen from the Samantakamani episode in Srimad > > Bhagavatham when the lord Kirshna himself was accused of stealing the > > gem, he first got the facts proved then dealt it straight this is a > > fair line for us humans too, we r not Islamic or talibanic in nature > > to ask for someones' blood, head etc and those who commit sins by > > accusing such revered figures will suffer in this life, and lives to > > come we need not reduce his sin by spreading his fiction till then > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> > > wrote: dear friend > > > > > > the fact is mr. sreenadh has written nothing in this group that > > > warrants this group owner to ban sreenadh. > > > > > > neither sreenadhji's mails on this subject nor the files you are > > > referring have anything to do with this group. > > > > > > as regards taking a moral posture, i too agree with you that the > > > observation is in a bad taste especially when it speaks bad about > > > lord rama's mother. however, you must remember that sreenadhji is > > > merely saying that he is quoting this from the ramayana balakanda > > > version. so, if you are sincere in stopping this bane, you must > > ask > > > sreenadhji to kindly give the name and publisher of that book and > > > then CONTEND with that publisher. if a publisher really published > > > such book, i am sure that book would be banned if you refer this > > to > > > VHP as this book hurts the sentiments of all those who put lord > > rama > > > in high esteem. if sreenadhji fails to mention the name and > > > publisher of that book and says that it is his own opinion, then > > only > > > you can say that sreenadhji's observation is bad. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > pandit ji , i just checked, i rcvd mail on my outlook may be > > > through > > > > some fake id- i did not checked that file is in this group, but > > > > whatever i thought that shrinadh is member of this group also, > > so i > > > > asked to mr. Tanveer. > > > > > > > > but what ever he wrote that is not good it is worst stage of > > mind, > > > i > > > > do not think any one can think like this, so as moral of all > > > > religious ppl all have to opose to this act. > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > niket > > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > mr.sreenadh has written something in his group which is not > > this > > > > > group. mr. sreenadh has written any thing in this group at > > all. > > > > why > > > > > are you asking this group owner to ban a person in this group > > who > > > > has > > > > > not written anything in this group. > > > > > > > > > > if at all you find the matter of sreenadh's mail objectionable > > > and > > > > > needs banning in this group, you shall demand a ban on the > > person > > > > who > > > > > is pasting such objectionable post from another group in this > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > , " astroiniket " > > > > > <astroiniket@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear tanveer, i think pls check this, if this is true pls > > ban > > > > this > > > > > > type of people who are doing crime, playing with emotions of > > > > > people. > > > > > > i think you will understand, this type of things will be > > > against > > > > > the > > > > > > religion. it may be any religion, we should respect all > > dharma, > > > > and > > > > > > all mahapurusha may be born in any dharma. > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > niket > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lokendra Singh > > > > > > <kondhera@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE STOP ALL THIS,PLEASE THINK POSITIVE AND > > LOGICAL,WHO > > > > SAID > > > > > > WHAT IS NOT OUR CONCERN TRY AND LEARN GOOD THINGS FROM THIS > > > GROUP > > > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > > > Rao Lokendra Singh Kondhera > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help taking action against Srinadh and also against > > > > Srinivas > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Sunil Nair Ji, if these two peopplestill supports srinadh, > > he > > > > > > banned me > > > > > > > in his group therefore i m not > > > > > > > able to reply to him - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has uploaded one file in his file section in which > > along > > > with > > > > > > > astrology he says Kaushalya Slept with hose to give birth > > to > > > > Lord > > > > > > Rama. > > > > > > > Pls. check following notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we lodge a report in police against him ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > File : /Sreenadh/Birth of Rama and brothers.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uploaded by : sreesog <sreesog@ > > > > > > > </post? > > > > > > postID=6cy3tqeogL60BQax\ > > > > > > > rVr6KnkRw-GfovK0Fn-OVHko0R8oydqsD- > > gjwJWfiDaI0wyOtRa_l8GX10zo- > > > > 5s> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Description : Article about the birth and horoscope of > > Rama > > > and > > > > > > > brothers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can access this file at the URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh/ > > > > > > Bi\ > > > > > > > \ > > > > > > > rth%20of%20Rama%20and%20brothers.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Sreenadh > > > > > > /B\ > > > > > > > irth%20of%20Rama%20and%20brothers.pdf> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please > > visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://help./help/us/groups/files > > > > > > > <http://help./help/us/groups/files> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sreesog <sreesog@ > > > > > > > </post? > > > > > > postID=6cy3tqeogL60BQax\ > > > > > > > rVr6KnkRw-GfovK0Fn-OVHko0R8oydqsD- > > gjwJWfiDaI0wyOtRa_l8GX10zo- > > > > 5s> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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