KP systems query: Which of the Gems can I use ? Share your thoughts.

July 29, 2007

Dear Group Members

God Bless U All

Which Gem will Suit me?

A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its period will give

adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the evil effects they suggest the

stone or gem governed by that malefic planet. According to Prof. Krishnamurti,

it is wrong and actually doing harm to the consultant.

Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets are governed by

Venus and one taking much of sweets, will reduce the evil effects of Venus, how

far this learned Astrologer will be helpful to the patient.

Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, etc. and thereby

Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is the meaning of suggesting

to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars or to keep ready a lathi or a knife or

a revolver loaded, governed by Mars. Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in

fire, consider how wise the learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly

inflammable ones on the fire, since inflammable ones are governed by Mars.

If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in one¢s action, how

can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue color, purchasing blue

cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. The result will be similar to an old

(Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person crossing the road and Saturn afflicted driver or

owner delaying in reducing the speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the

results would be .

If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a liquid

purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon threatens, drowning in

one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl according to an advice, do you know what

will happen? Mind you, Moon will keep him for some hours by the side of the

pearls at the bottom of the sea and after a few hours, lift his body up to the

surface and carry the bloated dead body to the shores.

So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that when a house is

in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we give stimulant; when

there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control. Therefore, that which will nullify

the evil is to be suggested. That planet which is auspicious, is to be taken.

According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st , 2nd and that

of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses are signified by them. If

they are not at all connected in any manner with 6th or 8th or 12th then use

that color or metal or Gem which is indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and

11th. Even if the Sub Lord of the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be

significator of 6 or 8 or 12, reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such

a Sub Lord.

Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too needs minute

calculations which must be done well before hand. I can give you detail and

accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem so that you must be confirmed

before buying such costly Gems whether you have to buy it or not. What I need is

Your Famous Name and Any Number within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S

Krishnamurti].

A Foresight Prince of India

Pram Chopra

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July 29, 2007

Dear Pram,

All Lords are important. It depends on what one

wishes to have when he visits the astrologer.

1) If a person wishes to win in any election,

or if a student wishes to pass in interview

or if a person wishes early divorce,

then take the Gem denoting the 6th SubLord and

make the native wear the same, till the purpose

is solved.

2) If a person is searching for a treasure under

the ground the let him wear a Ge, denoting the

8th Sublord, till his treasure is found.

3)If a person wishes to travel to a foreign country

and not getting permission, then let him wear the Gem

for the 12th Sublord, till he gets early passage.

Of course just the solitary action would not help

in accomplishing the desired ends, without support

of other houses.

At times, one has to wear the Gem for the 8th House Lord

too, even though he signifies the 8th House. Because

if he is sitting in the 11th, then all gains and profits can

be achieved only through this Lord. He becomes the

Agent,resource,catalyst and channel to achieve the

fructifications of the 11th house.

Thus you see even the Lords of 6th,8th and 12th too help.

Wearing a Gem is mostly based on what the Native requires

in Life, at a particular period.

The above is through experience and knowledge received

through Gurus, and you may not

find in books of KP, though

the basic principles remain same, and comes through

parampara KP Jyotish.

Regards,

Bhaskar.

www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

, Pram Chopra

<pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Group Members

>

> God Bless U All

>

> Which Gem will Suit me?

>

> A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its

period will give adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the evil

effects they suggest the stone or gem governed by that malefic planet.

According to Prof. Krishnamurti, it is wrong and actually doing harm

to the consultant.

>

> Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets are

governed by Venus and one taking much of sweets, will reduce the evil

effects of Venus, how far this learned Astrologer will be helpful to

the patient.

>

> Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, etc.

and thereby Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is the

meaning of suggesting to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars or to

keep ready a lathi or a knife or a revolver loaded, governed by Mars.

Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in fire, consider how wise the

learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly inflammable ones on

the fire, since inflammable ones are governed by Mars.

>

> If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in one¢s

action, how can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue

color, purchasing blue cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. The

result will be similar to an old (Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person

crossing the road and Saturn afflicted driver or owner delaying in

reducing the speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the results

would be .

>

> If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a

liquid purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon

threatens, drowning in one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl according

to an advice, do you know what will happen? Mind you, Moon will keep

him for some hours by the side of the pearls at the bottom of the sea

and after a few hours, lift his body up to the surface and carry the

bloated dead body to the shores.

>

> So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that when

a house is in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we give

stimulant; when there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control.

Therefore, that which will nullify the evil is to be suggested. That

planet which is auspicious, is to be taken.

>

> According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st ,

2nd and that of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses are

signified by them. If they are not at all connected in any manner with

6th or 8th or 12th then use that color or metal or Gem which is

indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and 11th. Even if the Sub Lord

of the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be significator of 6 or 8 or

12, reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such a Sub Lord.

>

> Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too

needs minute calculations which must be done well before hand. I can

give you detail and accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem so

that you must be confirmed before buying such costly Gems whether you

have to buy it or not. What I need is Your Famous Name and Any Number

within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti].

>

> A Foresight Prince of India

> Pram Chopra

>

______________________________\

____

> Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's

> Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.

> http://tv./collections/222

>

July 29, 2007

Dear Members, Is Shri Pram Chopra an astrologer at

all ? Or,is he one of the many we have in

India, " Jack of all & Master of none " , type of " sooth-sayer " ...who mixes

up whatever suits him for the time-being...! His

replies do not seem to be coherent/logical or even to the point...

I shall wait for a sensible reply...from Pram Chopra...for one last

time... L.Y.Rao.

, Pram Chopra

<pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Group Members

>

> God Bless U All

>

> Which Gem will Suit me?

>

> A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its period

will give adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the evil effects

they suggest the stone or gem governed by that malefic planet. According

to Prof. Krishnamurti, it is wrong and actually doing harm to the

consultant.

>

> Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets are

governed by Venus and one taking much of sweets, will reduce the evil

effects of Venus, how far this learned Astrologer will be helpful to the

patient.

>

> Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, etc. and

thereby Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is the

meaning of suggesting to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars or to

keep ready a lathi or a knife or a revolver loaded, governed by Mars.

Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in fire, consider how wise the

learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly inflammable ones on

the fire, since inflammable ones are governed by Mars.

>

> If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in one¢s

action, how can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue

color, purchasing blue cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. The

result will be similar to an old (Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person crossing

the road and Saturn afflicted driver or owner delaying in reducing the

speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the results would be .

>

> If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a

liquid purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon

threatens, drowning in one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl

according to an advice, do you know what will happen? Mind you, Moon

will keep him for some hours by the side of the pearls at the bottom of

the sea and after a few hours, lift his body up to the surface and carry

the bloated dead body to the shores.

>

> So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that when a

house is in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we give

stimulant; when there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control. Therefore,

that which will nullify the evil is to be suggested. That planet which

is auspicious, is to be taken.

>

> According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st , 2nd

and that of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses are

signified by them. If they are not at all connected in any manner with

6th or 8th or 12th then use that color or metal or Gem which is

indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and 11th. Even if the Sub Lord of

the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be significator of 6 or 8 or 12,

reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such a Sub Lord.

>

> Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too

needs minute calculations which must be done well before hand. I can

give you detail and accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem so

that you must be confirmed before buying such costly Gems whether you

have to buy it or not. What I need is Your Famous Name and Any Number

within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti].

>

> A Foresight Prince of India

> Pram Chopra

>

______________________\

____________

> Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's

> Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.

> http://tv./collections/222

>

July 30, 2007

Dear Chandrashekhar

God Bless U

First try 8 fold Royal Blue Cotton Thread on your big finger on left hand. and observe about fortnight whether you find good any news around you or family menbers.

do intimate me.

A Foresight Prince of India

Pram

Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006 Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:25:15 PM Re: KP systems query: Which of the Gems can I use ? Share your thoughts.

Dear Mr. Chopra ji,My famous Name is: ChandrashekharMy No# 27Kindly suggest me the right Gem for my overall success Family/wealth/ happiness etc.RegardsChann, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Group Members> > God Bless U All> > Which Gem will Suit me?> > A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its period will give adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the evil effects they suggest the stone or gem governed by that malefic planet. According to Prof. Krishnamurti, it is wrong and actually doing harm to the consultant.> > Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets are governed by Venus and one taking much of sweets, will

reduce the evil effects of Venus, how far this learned Astrologer will be helpful to the patient.> > Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, etc. and thereby Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is the meaning of suggesting to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars or to keep ready a lathi or a knife or a revolver loaded, governed by Mars. Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in fire, consider how wise the learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly inflammable ones on the fire, since inflammable ones are governed by Mars.> > If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in one¢s action, how can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue color, purchasing blue cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. The result will be similar to an old (Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person crossing the road and Saturn afflicted

driver or owner delaying in reducing the speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the results would be .> > If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a liquid purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon threatens, drowning in one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl according to an advice, do you know what will happen? Mind you, Moon will keep him for some hours by the side of the pearls at the bottom of the sea and after a few hours, lift his body up to the surface and carry the bloated dead body to the shores.> > So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that when a house is in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we give stimulant; when there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control. Therefore, that which will nullify the evil is to be suggested. That planet which is auspicious, is to be taken. > >

According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st , 2nd and that of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses are signified by them. If they are not at all connected in any manner with 6th or 8th or 12th then use that color or metal or Gem which is indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and 11th. Even if the Sub Lord of the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be significator of 6 or 8 or 12, reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such a Sub Lord.> > Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too needs minute calculations which must be done well before hand. I can give you detail and accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem so that you must be confirmed before buying such costly Gems whether you have to buy it or not. What I need is Your Famous Name and Any Number within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti] . > > A

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