Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Jatinder, We should stick to classics. Upapada, seventh bhava, seventh lord, Venus and Darakaraka shows general karma connected to relationships. The rules are correct but people have problem with using it. Then the help of Paramapra is coming. If You want to see details of spouse then open Navamsa, but You must know which relationship You are analysing per rules of Uttara Kalamrta (8H from UL or 7H in D9). Dont trust any rule before seeing it how it works. On my site You can see article about relationships using Upapada concept with many examples from real life. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com jatinsingus napisa?(a): > > I need your five minutes to discuss something which I feel is very > important to scholars like you both including S.Rath also. > It started like this… > When I started learning astrology from PVR (MP3 lessons, since > long), I got very interested in astrology and started going through > various articles at different places/sites also. One day I read an > article from one Mr. Harish trivedi, a file named Tribute to RAHU is > also posted at Jyotish_remedies . There was something > about harish trivedi,s new theories, research etc. > I read it and got very impressed with it. I started using his theory > of keeping RAHU in Lagna calling it Yoni Mukha to see problems of > marital problems etc. days passed and one day… > One day recently I happened to read it again by chance, there were > some examples also given to prove the theory, let me give you one > example here. > > Basic rules are, > 1) Rahu will be YONI LAGNA Occupier and focal point. All > combinations are to be viewed from this point. > > 2) Look for affliction of 2nd and 8th bhava from Rahu and ketu. > > 3) Look for 7th lord from Rahu and his affliction. > > 4) Look for 2nd Bhava lord from Rahu spoiled by Sun, Mars, Saturn > Guru. > > 5) Look for affliction of Rahu and Ketu by aspect or association. > (This disturbs Perceptions about each other) > > 6) Look for Saturn/Mars/ Sun in 12th from Rahu > > The reason I have included 2nd house affliction from Rahu and Ketu > is , they represent the Garbha and also Thinking. > > Since Rahu, according to me is the Karaka of the above, the > chemistry between two beings also plays an important part. If it > does not work, people are not attracted towards each other and the > marriage falls apart. > > I am giving birth details of some males and females selected at > random by me from my clients list who have marital problems or > divorces or widowed etc. I found HCF (Highest common factor) > principles which I have put as Theory as above. You might find other > reasons for discord or marital problems in the following horoscopes > but I would request you to look from a NEW PERSPECTIVE keeping Rahu > in YONI LAGNA. > > 3)CASE.. FEMALE > > Lagna....Virgo Mars > Libra.... Ketu > Pisces.. .Saturn > Aries.... Rahu > Taurus...Sun > Gemini...Mercury > Cancer...Jupiter. .Venus > Leo....... Moon > > REPORT: > > 1) Sun in 2nd from Rahu > 2) 2nd from Rahu aspected by Saturn > 3) Rahu aspected by Mars > 4) Saturn in 12th from Rahu > RESULT: Husband died in a car accident in less than 5 > years of marriage. > > Again I casted the above chart and started reading it carefully, > when I kept RAHU in Lagna I was shocked; it was in fact my chart. > > DOB > 15/06/1967 > 03:47:47 AM > Amritsar Punjab. > > I married 12th July 1995 and leaving happily with my wife. Will she > have Accident? I went into deep depression. > Then I tried to recover myself and started carefully understanding > HARISH TRIVEDI's theory. > > Sir, all the people born almost that day will have almost same > chart, but of course with different lagans. Now keeping RAHU as > Lagna means all charts casted for that period ( let's say some 6 to > 8 hours forward or backward) will be almost same as far as harish > rules for RAHU Lagna are concern. Which means for all those people > spouse must die with in some period of marriage. > > So, I think there are definitely some problems with some people who > try to generate new theories, which then create lot of problems to > others. I think some astrologer's committee should be formed to stop > this type of unwanted theories. And all the theories which are > recognized by this committee of learned scholars like you all should > only be used. > I am not against people doing research in astrology, but still I > think what our sages has taught us is enough and is totally complete > in subject. If we just understand it fully these classics, it's > enough to help mankind. > Sorry if it hurt's somebody. > > Jatinder… > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I need your five minutes to discuss something which I feel is very important to scholars like you both including S.Rath also. It started like this… When I started learning astrology from PVR (MP3 lessons, since long), I got very interested in astrology and started going through various articles at different places/sites also. One day I read an article from one Mr. Harish trivedi, a file named Tribute to RAHU is also posted at Jyotish_remedies . There was something about harish trivedi,s new theories, research etc. I read it and got very impressed with it. I started using his theory of keeping RAHU in Lagna calling it Yoni Mukha to see problems of marital problems etc. days passed and one day… One day recently I happened to read it again by chance, there were some examples also given to prove the theory, let me give you one example here. Basic rules are, 1) Rahu will be YONI LAGNA Occupier and focal point. All combinations are to be viewed from this point. 2) Look for affliction of 2nd and 8th bhava from Rahu and ketu. 3) Look for 7th lord from Rahu and his affliction. 4) Look for 2nd Bhava lord from Rahu spoiled by Sun, Mars, Saturn Guru. 5) Look for affliction of Rahu and Ketu by aspect or association. (This disturbs Perceptions about each other) 6) Look for Saturn/Mars/Sun in 12th from Rahu The reason I have included 2nd house affliction from Rahu and Ketu is , they represent the Garbha and also Thinking. Since Rahu, according to me is the Karaka of the above, the chemistry between two beings also plays an important part. If it does not work, people are not attracted towards each other and the marriage falls apart. I am giving birth details of some males and females selected at random by me from my clients list who have marital problems or divorces or widowed etc. I found HCF (Highest common factor) principles which I have put as Theory as above. You might find other reasons for discord or marital problems in the following horoscopes but I would request you to look from a NEW PERSPECTIVE keeping Rahu in YONI LAGNA. 3)CASE.. FEMALE Lagna....Virgo Mars Libra.... Ketu Pisces.. .Saturn Aries.... Rahu Taurus...Sun Gemini...Mercury Cancer...Jupiter..Venus Leo....... Moon REPORT: 1) Sun in 2nd from Rahu 2) 2nd from Rahu aspected by Saturn 3) Rahu aspected by Mars 4) Saturn in 12th from Rahu RESULT: Husband died in a car accident in less than 5 years of marriage. Again I casted the above chart and started reading it carefully, when I kept RAHU in Lagna I was shocked; it was in fact my chart. DOB 15/06/1967 03:47:47 AM Amritsar Punjab. I married 12th July 1995 and leaving happily with my wife. Will she have Accident? I went into deep depression. Then I tried to recover myself and started carefully understanding HARISH TRIVEDI's theory. Sir, all the people born almost that day will have almost same chart, but of course with different lagans. Now keeping RAHU as Lagna means all charts casted for that period ( let's say some 6 to 8 hours forward or backward) will be almost same as far as harish rules for RAHU Lagna are concern. Which means for all those people spouse must die with in some period of marriage. So, I think there are definitely some problems with some people who try to generate new theories, which then create lot of problems to others. I think some astrologer's committee should be formed to stop this type of unwanted theories. And all the theories which are recognized by this committee of learned scholars like you all should only be used. I am not against people doing research in astrology, but still I think what our sages has taught us is enough and is totally complete in subject. If we just understand it fully these classics, it's enough to help mankind. Sorry if it hurt's somebody. Jatinder… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Hi Jatinder, You have hit the bull's eye by posting the following mail on the list. I had posted my birth details for analysis, this person took it for analysis out of his own violition. And he predicted so many ominous things that I dreaded for almost a year or so, thinking that his prediction would come true. But slowly as the months and years passed, not a single of his predictions have come true in my case. This incident happened about three years before, and I have got over it. His Rahu-centric theory was just a hypothesis, but he would make predictions with such a finality that it scared me no end. I was so fed up with this guy that I got into a lengthy verbal duel, and then he started whining and crying " moderator please step in " . Well anyways whosoever uses jyotish in such a way is accruing lot of malefic karmas and sooner or the later he has to pay the debt of his karmas. Best Regards Manoj Sharma --- jatinsingus <jatinder wrote: > I need your five minutes to discuss something which > I feel is very > important to scholars like you both including S.Rath > also. > It started like this… > When I started learning astrology from PVR (MP3 > lessons, since > long), I got very interested in astrology and > started going through > various articles at different places/sites also. One > day I read an > article from one Mr. Harish trivedi, a file named > Tribute to RAHU is > also posted at Jyotish_remedies . There > was something > about harish trivedi,s new theories, research etc. > I read it and got very impressed with it. I started > using his theory > of keeping RAHU in Lagna calling it Yoni Mukha to > see problems of > marital problems etc. days passed and one day… > One day recently I happened to read it again by > chance, there were > some examples also given to prove the theory, let me > give you one > example here. > > Basic rules are, > 1) Rahu will be YONI LAGNA Occupier and focal point. > All > combinations are to be viewed from this point. > > 2) Look for affliction of 2nd and 8th bhava from > Rahu and ketu. > > 3) Look for 7th lord from Rahu and his affliction. > > 4) Look for 2nd Bhava lord from Rahu spoiled by Sun, > Mars, Saturn > Guru. > > 5) Look for affliction of Rahu and Ketu by aspect or > association. > (This disturbs Perceptions about each other) > > 6) Look for Saturn/Mars/Sun in 12th from Rahu > > The reason I have included 2nd house affliction from > Rahu and Ketu > is , they represent the Garbha and also Thinking. > > Since Rahu, according to me is the Karaka of the > above, the > chemistry between two beings also plays an important > part. If it > does not work, people are not attracted towards each > other and the > marriage falls apart. > > I am giving birth details of some males and females > selected at > random by me from my clients list who have marital > problems or > divorces or widowed etc. I found HCF (Highest common > factor) > principles which I have put as Theory as above. You > might find other > reasons for discord or marital problems in the > following horoscopes > but I would request you to look from a NEW > PERSPECTIVE keeping Rahu > in YONI LAGNA. > > 3)CASE.. FEMALE > > Lagna....Virgo Mars > Libra.... Ketu > Pisces.. .Saturn > Aries.... Rahu > Taurus...Sun > Gemini...Mercury > Cancer...Jupiter..Venus > Leo....... Moon > > REPORT: > > 1) Sun in 2nd from Rahu > 2) 2nd from Rahu aspected by Saturn > 3) Rahu aspected by Mars > 4) Saturn in 12th from Rahu > RESULT: Husband died in a car accident in less than > 5 > years of marriage. > > Again I casted the above chart and started reading > it carefully, > when I kept RAHU in Lagna I was shocked; it was in > fact my chart. > > DOB > 15/06/1967 > 03:47:47 AM > Amritsar Punjab. > > I married 12th July 1995 and leaving happily with my > wife. Will she > have Accident? I went into deep depression. > Then I tried to recover myself and started carefully > understanding > HARISH TRIVEDI's theory. > > Sir, all the people born almost that day will have > almost same > chart, but of course with different lagans. Now > keeping RAHU as > Lagna means all charts casted for that period ( > let's say some 6 to > 8 hours forward or backward) will be almost same as > far as harish > rules for RAHU Lagna are concern. Which means for > all those people > spouse must die with in some period of marriage. > > So, I think there are definitely some problems with > some people who > try to generate new theories, which then create lot > of problems to > others. I think some astrologer's committee should > be formed to stop > this type of unwanted theories. And all the theories > which are > recognized by this committee of learned scholars > like you all should > only be used. > I am not against people doing research in astrology, > but still I > think what our sages has taught us is enough and is > totally complete > in subject. If we just understand it fully these > classics, it's > enough to help mankind. > Sorry if it hurt's somebody. > > Jatinder… > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Jatinder, I agree wholeheartedly to your fears., regarding new and off shoot theories being propogated, just to gain,the limelight , which in fact would create problems to hundreds of people,including new strolgers, who would apply these theories to their own charts and get scared in the process. I am talking in general supporting what you have said, and not in connection with this particular essay of " Rahu Yoni Lagna " and the originators. I have heard this for the first time, and I know there are many complaints from more others, that certain people well known in the astrology corridors are just propogating new unheard of theories , jut to look spectacular. All of us should join together and ask thse people to come up with the authenticity and the source of these theories, and data of at least 100 charts where these theries have been applied , before opening the same to public. regards, Bhaskar. , " jatinsingus " <jatinder wrote: > > I need your five minutes to discuss something which I feel is very > important to scholars like you both including S.Rath also. > It started like this… > When I started learning astrology from PVR (MP3 lessons, since > long), I got very interested in astrology and started going through > various articles at different places/sites also. One day I read an > article from one Mr. Harish trivedi, a file named Tribute to RAHU is > also posted at Jyotish_remedies . There was something > about harish trivedi,s new theories, research etc. > I read it and got very impressed with it. I started using his theory > of keeping RAHU in Lagna calling it Yoni Mukha to see problems of > marital problems etc. days passed and one day… > One day recently I happened to read it again by chance, there were > some examples also given to prove the theory, let me give you one > example here. > > Basic rules are, > 1) Rahu will be YONI LAGNA Occupier and focal point. All > combinations are to be viewed from this point. > > 2) Look for affliction of 2nd and 8th bhava from Rahu and ketu. > > 3) Look for 7th lord from Rahu and his affliction. > > 4) Look for 2nd Bhava lord from Rahu spoiled by Sun, Mars, Saturn > Guru. > > 5) Look for affliction of Rahu and Ketu by aspect or association. > (This disturbs Perceptions about each other) > > 6) Look for Saturn/Mars/Sun in 12th from Rahu > > The reason I have included 2nd house affliction from Rahu and Ketu > is , they represent the Garbha and also Thinking. > > Since Rahu, according to me is the Karaka of the above, the > chemistry between two beings also plays an important part. If it > does not work, people are not attracted towards each other and the > marriage falls apart. > > I am giving birth details of some males and females selected at > random by me from my clients list who have marital problems or > divorces or widowed etc. I found HCF (Highest common factor) > principles which I have put as Theory as above. You might find other > reasons for discord or marital problems in the following horoscopes > but I would request you to look from a NEW PERSPECTIVE keeping Rahu > in YONI LAGNA. > > 3)CASE.. FEMALE > > Lagna....Virgo Mars > Libra.... Ketu > Pisces.. .Saturn > Aries.... Rahu > Taurus...Sun > Gemini...Mercury > Cancer...Jupiter..Venus > Leo....... Moon > > REPORT: > > 1) Sun in 2nd from Rahu > 2) 2nd from Rahu aspected by Saturn > 3) Rahu aspected by Mars > 4) Saturn in 12th from Rahu > RESULT: Husband died in a car accident in less than 5 > years of marriage. > > Again I casted the above chart and started reading it carefully, > when I kept RAHU in Lagna I was shocked; it was in fact my chart. > > DOB > 15/06/1967 > 03:47:47 AM > Amritsar Punjab. > > I married 12th July 1995 and leaving happily with my wife. Will she > have Accident? I went into deep depression. > Then I tried to recover myself and started carefully understanding > HARISH TRIVEDI's theory. > > Sir, all the people born almost that day will have almost same > chart, but of course with different lagans. Now keeping RAHU as > Lagna means all charts casted for that period ( let's say some 6 to > 8 hours forward or backward) will be almost same as far as harish > rules for RAHU Lagna are concern. Which means for all those people > spouse must die with in some period of marriage. > > So, I think there are definitely some problems with some people who > try to generate new theories, which then create lot of problems to > others. I think some astrologer's committee should be formed to stop > this type of unwanted theories. And all the theories which are > recognized by this committee of learned scholars like you all should > only be used. > I am not against people doing research in astrology, but still I > think what our sages has taught us is enough and is totally complete > in subject. If we just understand it fully these classics, it's > enough to help mankind. > Sorry if it hurt's somebody. > > Jatinder… > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Dear Jatinder God Bless U I am very much Agreed with Rafal ji. He is one of the Foresight Jewel of Vedic Astrology and very much experienced in analyzing facts. A Foresight Prince of India Prem Chopra Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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