Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Sreenadh, I remember ur good work last yr in this forum on tithis etc and wished your were back and is good to see you, I had mentioned about ur last yr's thread here a good one defeated by some stronger ppl. Now it is nice u have posted BOTH sides of KP and I hope it is seen in same spirit. from what I know of on the topics u listed STELLAR ASTROLOGY as derived by Sri R G RAO or Meena his 3 volumes of Nadi astrlogy do cover this concepts KP has `stolen' said B V RAMAN too u r not the 1st thankfully. RAMAN also said KP had the grace of KP [karna pisachi] a black magic or tantrk deity that whispers the readings needed with amazing accuracy. [khsudra devata not ucchistra Ganapati as we see in his bboks]. these deities require some balis and work for them and in the end of such tantriks they die miserably. like wise on ayanmasa some tinkered version for the heck of it and Linda goodman's sun signs, love signs on the characteristics, physical features, profession etc. he has also used some tamil works also as he says in reader 1 If i remember right one born in Danishta will make one a TAMIL SCHOLAR he never used will be good in a language or his mother tounge etc. so I am sure at this rate u must 1/27 of the world speak Tamil. the greatest joke is he says after 1964 HE FOUND THAT between Lagna and chandra which were normally used for checking wich is trong and read from there. post 1964 he felt Lagna alone and the books contain max from chandra as stronger cases. he has dismissed Yogas yet has his books explain some examples with yogas if they were found from his experience it doesn't work HE MUST REMOVE THEM AND PUBLISH there will be hardly an examples left inst it? to print and sell his books sell at exorbitant rates with 3rd rate paper quality and printing just because it is expensive it will sell has worked as a good sales strategy with little conscience or ethics in selling such poor publications. PEOPLE WHO WILL PROTEST REMEMBER I HAVE ALL HIS WORKS AND AM THANKFUL THAT HE HAS SAVED me time from reading some other books, works I have listed in one series of his books [i mean all other stolen works] rest is left to people to see themselves I wanted to post this before freezing the topic as I had to go uut am doing now, from my sude I want to freeze this plz Best wishes , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Pappa Bhat ji, > The advantage of KP astrology itself is its disadvantage. To state > some - > > 1) The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that discuss 'Trisphuta > based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- > Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. That is > one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam > Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is valid > and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an > advantage. Even though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never admitted > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the curse > of tradition is associated with the same. This is a disadvantage. > 2) KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage. > 3) KP astrologers do a lot of calculations and thus succeed in > impressing the scientific minded modern generation. This is an > advantage. But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is > presented to them and become a laughing stock before the learned > people. This is a disadvantage. > 4) Krishnamoorti did a lot of research on significance and provides > us with a good list that tallies with the modern circumstances and > knowledge. This is an advantage. But in doing so he mixed up western, > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything. This is a > disadvantage. > And the list goes on... I think by now you might have got an > understanding about the not only the disadvantages of KP system, but > also about the advantages of it. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " pappa_bhat " > <pappa_bhat@> wrote: > > > > Hii friends, > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one > found > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > Please > > share with me. > > > > Thank U. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Dear Prashant ji, ==> STELLAR ASTROLOGY as derived by Sri R G RAO or Meena his 3 volumes of Nadi astrlogy do cover this concepts KP has `stolen' said B V RAMAN too u r not the 1st thankfully. <== That is news to me! But I repeat, Krishnamoorti should be valued for his unique effort and research. Our difference of opinion does not does not deny that true scholar his merits. Our approval does not take away his mistakes as well such as- * spreading propaganda against ancient Indian astrology (even though he himself uses and borrows his knowledge from the same) * Not disclosing and arguing that he FOUND(!) them, even after borrowing the core concepts form books like Prsnamarga and Meena's nadi astrology book. * Mixing Easter-Western-Yavana systems. (Even though people who don't even know the fundamentals of KP astrology, or haven't even saw the cover of his books may vehemently argue otherwise) Even Krishnamoorti's book " Foundation Principles of Astrology " has the title " Hindu, Western and Stellar " in the cover page itself. If we go inside such book, we will not find any such classification but only a mix of all the systems. Love, Sreenadh , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Sreenadh, > > I remember ur good work last yr in this forum on tithis etc and wished > your were back and is good to see you, I had mentioned about ur last > yr's thread here a good one defeated by some stronger ppl. > > Now it is nice u have posted BOTH sides of KP and I hope it is seen in > same spirit. > > from what I know of on the topics u listed > > STELLAR ASTROLOGY as derived by Sri R G RAO or Meena his 3 volumes of > Nadi astrlogy do cover this concepts KP has `stolen' said B V RAMAN > too u r not the 1st thankfully. > > RAMAN also said KP had the grace of KP [karna pisachi] a black magic > or tantrk deity that whispers the readings needed with amazing > accuracy. [khsudra devata not ucchistra Ganapati as we see in his > bboks]. these deities require some balis and work for them and in the > end of such tantriks they die miserably. > > like wise on ayanmasa some tinkered version for the heck of it > > and Linda goodman's sun signs, love signs on the characteristics, > physical features, profession etc. > > he has also used some tamil works also > > as he says in reader 1 If i remember right one born in Danishta will > make one a TAMIL SCHOLAR he never used will be good in a language or > his mother tounge etc. so I am sure at this rate u must 1/27 of the > world speak Tamil. > > the greatest joke is he says after 1964 HE FOUND THAT between Lagna > and chandra which were normally used for checking wich is trong and > read from there. > > post 1964 he felt Lagna alone and the books contain max from chandra > as stronger cases. > > he has dismissed Yogas > > yet has his books explain some examples with yogas > > if they were found from his experience it doesn't work HE MUST REMOVE > THEM AND PUBLISH there will be hardly an examples left inst it? > to print and sell > > his books sell at exorbitant rates with 3rd rate paper quality and > printing just because it is expensive it will sell has worked as a > good sales strategy with little conscience or ethics in selling such > poor publications. > > > PEOPLE WHO WILL PROTEST REMEMBER I HAVE ALL HIS WORKS AND AM THANKFUL > THAT HE HAS SAVED me time from reading some other books, works I have > listed in one series of his books [i mean all other stolen works] > > rest is left to people to see themselves > > > I wanted to post this before freezing the topic as I had to go uut am > doing now, > > from my sude I want to freeze this plz > > Best wishes > > > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pappa Bhat ji, > > The advantage of KP astrology itself is its disadvantage. To state > > some - > > > > 1) The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that discuss 'Trisphuta > > based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- > > Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. That is > > one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam > > Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is valid > > and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an > > advantage. Even though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never admitted > > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the curse > > of tradition is associated with the same. This is a disadvantage. > > 2) KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage. > > 3) KP astrologers do a lot of calculations and thus succeed in > > impressing the scientific minded modern generation. This is an > > advantage. But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is > > presented to them and become a laughing stock before the learned > > people. This is a disadvantage. > > 4) Krishnamoorti did a lot of research on significance and provides > > us with a good list that tallies with the modern circumstances and > > knowledge. This is an advantage. But in doing so he mixed up western, > > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything. This is a > > disadvantage. > > And the list goes on... I think by now you might have got an > > understanding about the not only the disadvantages of KP system, but > > also about the advantages of it. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > <pappa_bhat@> wrote: > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one > > found > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > > Please > > > share with me. > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Dear Moderator, The disease of Fundementalism seems to creep into astrology too. The world is alarge place for accomodating all hues of astrology,be it western, eastern or chinese. As educated men/women in a true sense, we need not be 'guided' into which astrologer is 'better' than other.or for that matter of their philosophy.We can comment only when we are enlightened truly. Let us stay away from politics of astrology. Regards, Satish , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Prashant ji, > > ==> > STELLAR ASTROLOGY as derived by Sri R G RAO or Meena his 3 volumes of > Nadi astrlogy do cover this concepts KP has `stolen' said B V RAMAN > too u r not the 1st thankfully. > <== > > That is news to me! > > But I repeat, Krishnamoorti should be valued for his unique effort > and research. Our difference of opinion does not does not deny that > true scholar his merits. Our approval does not take away his mistakes > as well such as- > * spreading propaganda against ancient Indian astrology (even though > he himself uses and borrows his knowledge from the same) > * Not disclosing and arguing that he FOUND(!) them, even after > borrowing the core concepts form books like Prsnamarga and Meena's > nadi astrology book. > * Mixing Easter-Western-Yavana systems. (Even though people who > don't even know the fundamentals of KP astrology, or haven't even saw > the cover of his books may vehemently argue otherwise) Even > Krishnamoorti's book " Foundation Principles of Astrology " has the > title " Hindu, Western and Stellar " in the cover page itself. If we go > inside such book, we will not find any such classification but only a > mix of all the systems. > > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER " > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Sreenadh, > > > > I remember ur good work last yr in this forum on tithis etc and > wished > > your were back and is good to see you, I had mentioned about ur > last > > yr's thread here a good one defeated by some stronger ppl. > > > > Now it is nice u have posted BOTH sides of KP and I hope it is seen > in > > same spirit. > > > > from what I know of on the topics u listed > > > > STELLAR ASTROLOGY as derived by Sri R G RAO or Meena his 3 volumes > of > > Nadi astrlogy do cover this concepts KP has `stolen' said B V RAMAN > > too u r not the 1st thankfully. > > > > RAMAN also said KP had the grace of KP [karna pisachi] a black magic > > or tantrk deity that whispers the readings needed with amazing > > accuracy. [khsudra devata not ucchistra Ganapati as we see in his > > bboks]. these deities require some balis and work for them and in > the > > end of such tantriks they die miserably. > > > > like wise on ayanmasa some tinkered version for the heck of it > > > > and Linda goodman's sun signs, love signs on the characteristics, > > physical features, profession etc. > > > > he has also used some tamil works also > > > > as he says in reader 1 If i remember right one born in Danishta will > > make one a TAMIL SCHOLAR he never used will be good in a language or > > his mother tounge etc. so I am sure at this rate u must 1/27 of the > > world speak Tamil. > > > > the greatest joke is he says after 1964 HE FOUND THAT between Lagna > > and chandra which were normally used for checking wich is trong and > > read from there. > > > > post 1964 he felt Lagna alone and the books contain max from chandra > > as stronger cases. > > > > he has dismissed Yogas > > > > yet has his books explain some examples with yogas > > > > if they were found from his experience it doesn't work HE MUST > REMOVE > > THEM AND PUBLISH there will be hardly an examples left inst it? > > to print and sell > > > > his books sell at exorbitant rates with 3rd rate paper quality and > > printing just because it is expensive it will sell has worked as a > > good sales strategy with little conscience or ethics in selling such > > poor publications. > > > > > > PEOPLE WHO WILL PROTEST REMEMBER I HAVE ALL HIS WORKS AND AM > THANKFUL > > THAT HE HAS SAVED me time from reading some other books, works I > have > > listed in one series of his books [i mean all other stolen works] > > > > rest is left to people to see themselves > > > > > > I wanted to post this before freezing the topic as I had to go uut > am > > doing now, > > > > from my sude I want to freeze this plz > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pappa Bhat ji, > > > The advantage of KP astrology itself is its disadvantage. To > state > > > some - > > > > > > 1) The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that > discuss 'Trisphuta > > > based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- > > > Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. > That is > > > one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam > > > Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is > valid > > > and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an > > > advantage. Even though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never > admitted > > > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the > curse > > > of tradition is associated with the same. This is a disadvantage. > > > 2) KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > > > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > > > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > > > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage. > > > 3) KP astrologers do a lot of calculations and thus succeed in > > > impressing the scientific minded modern generation. This is an > > > advantage. But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > > > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart > is > > > presented to them and become a laughing stock before the learned > > > people. This is a disadvantage. > > > 4) Krishnamoorti did a lot of research on significance and > provides > > > us with a good list that tallies with the modern circumstances > and > > > knowledge. This is an advantage. But in doing so he mixed up > western, > > > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything. This is > a > > > disadvantage. > > > And the list goes on... I think by now you might have got an > > > understanding about the not only the disadvantages of KP system, > but > > > also about the advantages of it. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > > <pappa_bhat@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any > one > > > found > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > > > Please > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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