Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hii friends, Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one found any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? Please share with me. Thank U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear pappa Bhatt, But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? If You may please tell us that, then we can move further to discussing the disadvantages. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyotish.com , " pappa_bhat " <pappa_bhat wrote: > > Hii friends, > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one found > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? Please > share with me. > > Thank U. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Sir, KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need brain to calculate. :-) He should be enough honest to read charts with all his capability otherwise predictions may go wrong. Regards, Tarun --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > If You may please tell us that, then we > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > , " pappa_bhat " <pappa_bhat > wrote: > > > > Hii friends, > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one found > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? Please > > share with me. > > > > Thank U. > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 tarun bhai- this disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst wrote: > > Sir, > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need brain to calculate. :-) > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his capability otherwise predictions may go > wrong. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " <pappa_bhat@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one found > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? Please > > > share with me. > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear paapa bhatt, Apart from the House division , the rest of the total system is just a concentrated Form of the Original Vedic tradition of Indian astrology formed by the Rishis.This system uses Nakshatra as source for all information, and Nakshatra was used in the ancient times even in period of Mahabharata and Ramayana, much before than that too, from times of Shibi Raja and Vikramaditya. Even the modern day Guru Mr. BV Raman has used the Nakshatras efficiently and extensively in his works, which many of his so called followers are not aware of, for lack of proper study and inability to understand the subject. This KP is the essence of Indian astrology and the cream taken out from the Milk, which is Parashar. This system can only be approached after a proper study of the Vedic system -traditional ,which is generally followed, as its easier to just place 9 Planets in 12 signs and interpret, though the predictions may be pretty wrong, but no one bothers. In Kp more minute divisions are taken and every degree of the Zodiac symbolises , a different result. If You are really interested in Kp, then you will have to first study the traditional approach very well, then only You can moveurther to KP, as this is not everyones cup of tea.One has to master the mathematics part properly first, and should be well versed in same, because even 1 second of difference in calculation of RAMC may produce 20 seconds of difference in the 10th cusp, and all the predictions can go haywire in the process. I hope You are a genuine enquirer, and not just a alias Id made to ridicule Kp and its followers, and I hope I am wrong in my assumption.because then no use in explaining all above. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > If You may please tell us that, then we > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > , " pappa_bhat " <pappa_bhat@> > wrote: > > > > Hii friends, > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one found > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? Please > > share with me. > > > > Thank U. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Sir kp mei thoda jyada precise hona padta hei in vedic system , dasha dekh kar bol do...but in KP one has to visualise all the things...including house lord/ nakhshatra lord / sublord/ i feel KP is a method developed to pin-point events., but not like giving a Kilometer of span to pick the result. Regards, Tarun --- astroiniket <astroiniket wrote: > tarun bhai- this disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst > wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need brain to > calculate. :-) > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his capability > otherwise predictions may go > > wrong. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > <pappa_bhat@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any > one found > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > Please > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 right Tarun if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take the road and get back now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try doing a vddic chart and see. astroiniket <astroiniket wrote: tarun bhai- this disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst wrote: > > Sir, > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need brain to calculate. :-) > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his capability otherwise predictions may go > wrong. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " <pappa_bhat@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one found > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? Please > > > share with me. > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Sir to study Vedic chart, one need chart of all family members. chahe aap 16 saal laga do. if you go to pinpoint an event. Even i asked you abt Saturn-Guru Dasha, you were unable to explain me abt the results of that. ... a right KP astrologer can do this firmly. I am not opposing vedic astrology. but i am 100% sure that event cannot be pin-pointed in vedic system. and SO KP WAS DISCOVERED. Regards, Tarun , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > right > > Tarun > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take the road and get back > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket wrote: tarun bhai- this disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need brain to > calculate. :-) > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his capability > otherwise predictions may go > > wrong. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > <pappa_bhat@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any > one found > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > Please > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Prashant ji, few more questions abt Vedic system sir. wht is the real vedic astrology...constellation/ star based or greek system of house division.... parashara one or nadi one....we have to justify tht too sir what is the base of dasha system....can we rationalise it .?? is it normal system or progression of moon to diff sub division of nakshatra... i guess it is progresson of moon. sir since u do not explain the rationale of yr analysis - it is difficult for me to learn from yr mails I hope that as a vedic Astrologer, you can suggest me the aforesaid Warm Regards, Tarun , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > right > > Tarun > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take the road and get back > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket wrote: tarun bhai- this disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need brain to > calculate. :-) > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his capability > otherwise predictions may go > > wrong. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > <pappa_bhat@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any > one found > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > Please > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Tarunji, I understand why the thread was initiated in the first place now. No use of discussing and wasting energies. First of all KP is not Non Vedic, they cannot understand. I do not understand how can people comment on a particular approach without studying the same. You come to me anytime you wis, and i will show you that the Chart (Vedic ) can be prepared within 1.5 hours maximum, with the perfect data, which even any software will show. KP will take much longer, about 2-3 hours and more, because first the vedic chart has to be prepared, and then one has to prepare the Cuspal Chart , after the Vedic one has been preparedto bifurcate the Cusps, and then place the Planets as per their degrees in varipous cusps, to get the perfect Picture.. before commenting in air, people should sit down and try to learn, and not just comment in absurd manners. Last Year itself I have prepared about 110 charts as per Kp method, which includes Vedic Chart first.Vedic is the base. I would rather request you to stop discussions with those who have not studied a subject and just commenting for the sake of it. The pinpointing or short cuts,which people know as KP astrologers, does not come by just studying the placement of 9 planets in 12 signs. It comes, with toil and sleepless nights and hardwork of many years, to arrive at these shortcut methods, which may tak less time to predict and pinpoint, but come with only pre-requisites of proper and chanellised study. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Tarun " <tarun_vst wrote: > > Sir to study Vedic chart, one need chart of all family members. > chahe aap 16 saal laga do. if you go to pinpoint an event. > > Even i asked you abt Saturn-Guru Dasha, you were unable to explain > me abt the results of that. ... > > > a right KP astrologer can do this firmly. I am not opposing vedic > astrology. but i am 100% sure that event cannot be pin-pointed in > vedic system. and SO KP WAS DISCOVERED. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > right > > > > Tarun > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take > the road and get back > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > wrote: tarun bhai- this > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > brain to > > calculate. :-) > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > capability > > otherwise predictions may go > > > wrong. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? > Any > > one found > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > experience? > > Please > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > someone who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Tarunji, The Dasha system -Vimsottari itself is based on the nakshatra of the Moon. And what does the Sub Lord of the Moon become ? It becomes the pratyantar Lord at the time of Your Birth. Check it out . In the same way we treat sublords of all planets as the direcion givers of the planets, just as the Moons sublord gives us the vimsottari dasha commencing. I did not want to write the above things on a public forum, because these are all secrets unwritten in any book, and do not wish to cast pearls before .... but since you are a student of Kp, and they are treating Kp as Non vedic, due to their lack of study and iability of resources in their minds to gauge the depth, I have put the above before you. because we do not know any particular approach does not give us a right to ridicule it. I have many more such matters which i can present and make the subject astoundingly clear and in clarity to understand that KP and vedic are not different but part of a whole, which is Parashar. regards, Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyotish.com , " Tarun " <tarun_vst wrote: > > Dear Prashant ji, > > few more questions abt Vedic system sir. > > wht is the real vedic astrology...constellation/ star based > or greek system of house division.... > > parashara one or nadi one....we have to justify tht too sir > > what is the base of dasha system....can we rationalise it .?? > is it normal system or progression of moon to diff sub division of > nakshatra... > > i guess it is progresson of moon. > sir since u do not explain the rationale of yr analysis - it is > difficult for me to learn from yr mails > > I hope that as a vedic Astrologer, you can suggest me the aforesaid > > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > right > > > > Tarun > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take > the road and get back > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > wrote: tarun bhai- this > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > brain to > > calculate. :-) > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > capability > > otherwise predictions may go > > > wrong. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? > Any > > one found > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > experience? > > Please > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > someone who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji , As you say...i hope to close this thread now. Even i would love to learn Kp..i am highly impressed by the way of system. Sir to make vedic system more precise KP was discovered. and better to learn preciseness. Regards Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > I understand why the thread was initiated in the first > place now. > No use of discussing and wasting energies. First of all > KP is not Non Vedic, they cannot understand. I do not > understand how can people comment on a particular approach > without studying the same. > You come to me anytime you wis, and i will show > you that the Chart (Vedic ) can be prepared > within 1.5 hours maximum, with the perfect data, > which even any software will show. > KP will take much longer, about 2-3 hours and more, > because first the vedic chart has to be prepared, > and then one has to prepare the Cuspal Chart , > after the Vedic one has been preparedto > bifurcate the Cusps, and then place the Planets as per > their degrees in varipous cusps, to get the perfect > Picture.. > > before commenting in air, people should sit > down and try to learn, and not just comment in > absurd manners. > > Last Year itself I have prepared about 110 > charts as per Kp method, which includes Vedic Chart > first.Vedic is the base. > > I would rather request you to stop discussions > with those who have not studied a subject and just > commenting for the sake of it. > > The pinpointing or short cuts,which people know > as KP astrologers, does not come by just studying the > placement of 9 planets in 12 signs. It comes, with > toil and sleepless nights and hardwork of many years, to > arrive at these shortcut methods, which may tak > less time to predict and pinpoint, but come with > only pre-requisites of proper and chanellised study. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun_vst@> wrote: > > > > Sir to study Vedic chart, one need chart of all family members. > > chahe aap 16 saal laga do. if you go to pinpoint an event. > > > > Even i asked you abt Saturn-Guru Dasha, you were unable to explain > > me abt the results of that. ... > > > > > > a right KP astrologer can do this firmly. I am not opposing vedic > > astrology. but i am 100% sure that event cannot be pin-pointed in > > vedic system. and SO KP WAS DISCOVERED. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > right > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART > > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take > > the road and get back > > > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > > wrote: tarun bhai- this > > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > > brain to > > > calculate. :-) > > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > > capability > > > otherwise predictions may go > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? > > Any > > > one found > > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > > experience? > > > Please > > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > > > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > someone who knows. > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 TARUN just because I did not answer doesn't mean there is no answer the fault is max mine not the system I pref grp posts to any1 than chat that is all and vedic or for that matter even KP under a good hand will work as well but how r u sure vedic can't deliver such short ones It does no one has so much time and rarely get compensated eithr so will never do In prasna i have answered tenders, getting admission in prof colleges, success failures in exams change of places etc all the ones KP CLAIMS IS SURELY THER EIN PRASNA MARGA, TANTRA, Hora sara etc try them here sure u need to put more effort and short cuts are sweet `at times.' Tarun <tarun_vst wrote: Sir to study Vedic chart, one need chart of all family members. chahe aap 16 saal laga do. if you go to pinpoint an event. Even i asked you abt Saturn-Guru Dasha, you were unable to explain me abt the results of that. ... a right KP astrologer can do this firmly. I am not opposing vedic astrology. but i am 100% sure that event cannot be pin-pointed in vedic system. and SO KP WAS DISCOVERED. Regards, Tarun , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > right > > Tarun > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take the road and get back > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket wrote: tarun bhai- this disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need brain to > calculate. :-) > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his capability > otherwise predictions may go > > wrong. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > <pappa_bhat@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any > one found > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > Please > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Last Year I sat for a exam with the Bhartiya Vidya Bhuvans in Bombay., which was known as " Kunadali Ganit " and you would be glad to know that I cast a chart and completed it within 90 minutes complete with Vedic and Kp followed. There we have the best professors and one cannot make a fool of anybody. You have to start with the Birth time in ISt and then convert to GMT and then calculate all the planetary degrees, and the Cuspal start and ends, and also write the Nakshatra Lords and other details. You also havbe to prepare the Sayana Chart with the same details.I secured 100% marks in that Question. If I can do that, then i think anyone can do it, because i am not very good at Maths. regards, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > I understand why the thread was initiated in the first > place now. > No use of discussing and wasting energies. First of all > KP is not Non Vedic, they cannot understand. I do not > understand how can people comment on a particular approach > without studying the same. > You come to me anytime you wis, and i will show > you that the Chart (Vedic ) can be prepared > within 1.5 hours maximum, with the perfect data, > which even any software will show. > KP will take much longer, about 2-3 hours and more, > because first the vedic chart has to be prepared, > and then one has to prepare the Cuspal Chart , > after the Vedic one has been preparedto > bifurcate the Cusps, and then place the Planets as per > their degrees in varipous cusps, to get the perfect > Picture.. > > before commenting in air, people should sit > down and try to learn, and not just comment in > absurd manners. > > Last Year itself I have prepared about 110 > charts as per Kp method, which includes Vedic Chart > first.Vedic is the base. > > I would rather request you to stop discussions > with those who have not studied a subject and just > commenting for the sake of it. > > The pinpointing or short cuts,which people know > as KP astrologers, does not come by just studying the > placement of 9 planets in 12 signs. It comes, with > toil and sleepless nights and hardwork of many years, to > arrive at these shortcut methods, which may tak > less time to predict and pinpoint, but come with > only pre-requisites of proper and chanellised study. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun_vst@> wrote: > > > > Sir to study Vedic chart, one need chart of all family members. > > chahe aap 16 saal laga do. if you go to pinpoint an event. > > > > Even i asked you abt Saturn-Guru Dasha, you were unable to explain > > me abt the results of that. ... > > > > > > a right KP astrologer can do this firmly. I am not opposing vedic > > astrology. but i am 100% sure that event cannot be pin-pointed in > > vedic system. and SO KP WAS DISCOVERED. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > right > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART > > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take > > the road and get back > > > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > > wrote: tarun bhai- this > > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > > brain to > > > calculate. :-) > > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > > capability > > > otherwise predictions may go > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? > > Any > > > one found > > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > > experience? > > > Please > > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, I certainly tried the same thing that dasha system is based on progresson of moon. the nakshatra lord becomes the Main Mahadasha and the sublord becomes the Antar dasha and the more deeply we need to go , we can go. but one thought was in my mind that ...since it is progression of moon .that means the moon changes from nakshatra to next nakshatra...so may be next house in marginal position of moon too. i am trying to find this actally for all planets Regards, Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I THINK THESE POSTINGS WILL BE IN PURE KP ROOMS, BECOZ THEIR ARE SO MANY LEARNED PEOPLE WHO CAN ANSWER WELL. RGDS NIKET , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > The Dasha system -Vimsottari itself is based on the > nakshatra of the Moon. And what does the Sub Lord of > the Moon become ? It becomes the pratyantar Lord at > the time of Your Birth. Check it out . > > In the same way we treat sublords of all planets as > the direcion givers of the planets, just as the > Moons sublord gives us the vimsottari dasha commencing. > > I did not want to write the above things on a public > forum, because these are all secrets unwritten in any > book, and do not wish to cast pearls before .... > but since you are a student of Kp, and they > are treating Kp as Non vedic, > due to their lack of study and iability of > resources in their minds to gauge the depth, > I have put the above before you. > > because we do not know any particular approach > does not give us a right to ridicule it. > > I have many more such matters which i can present > and make the subject astoundingly clear and > in clarity to understand that KP and vedic > are not different but part of a whole, > which is Parashar. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun_vst@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant ji, > > > > few more questions abt Vedic system sir. > > > > wht is the real vedic astrology...constellation/ star based > > or greek system of house division.... > > > > parashara one or nadi one....we have to justify tht too sir > > > > what is the base of dasha system....can we rationalise it .?? > > is it normal system or progression of moon to diff sub division of > > nakshatra... > > > > i guess it is progresson of moon. > > sir since u do not explain the rationale of yr analysis - it is > > difficult for me to learn from yr mails > > > > I hope that as a vedic Astrologer, you can suggest me the aforesaid > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > right > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART > > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take > > the road and get back > > > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > > wrote: tarun bhai- this > > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > > brain to > > > calculate. :-) > > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > > capability > > > otherwise predictions may go > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? > > Any > > > one found > > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > > experience? > > > Please > > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > > > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > someone who knows. > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Prashant ji, I am not blaming you, nor the system. But i am trying to get the answer abt Actual vedic system. what is real vedic system ?? constellation based or House based. house based is greek system.... What is dasha actually ?? why the results of two twin changes even if they have same lagna.. yes there are rare twins who get exact same % of marks in all exams. Please suggest me more on this this as i would love to learn something from your vast experience. Regards, Tarun , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > TARUN > > just because I did not answer doesn't mean there is no answer the fault is max mine not the system > > I pref grp posts to any1 than chat that is all > > and vedic or for that matter even KP under a good hand will work as well > > but how r u sure vedic can't deliver such short ones It does no one has so much time and rarely get compensated eithr so will never do > > In prasna i have answered tenders, getting admission in prof colleges, success failures in exams change of places etc all the ones KP CLAIMS IS SURELY THER EIN PRASNA MARGA, TANTRA, Hora sara etc try them > > here sure u need to put more effort and short cuts are sweet `at times.' > > > > Tarun <tarun_vst wrote: Sir to study Vedic chart, one need chart of all family members. > chahe aap 16 saal laga do. if you go to pinpoint an event. > > Even i asked you abt Saturn-Guru Dasha, you were unable to explain > me abt the results of that. ... > > a right KP astrologer can do this firmly. I am not opposing vedic > astrology. but i am 100% sure that event cannot be pin-pointed in > vedic system. and SO KP WAS DISCOVERED. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > right > > > > Tarun > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take > the road and get back > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > wrote: tarun bhai- this > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > brain to > > calculate. :-) > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > capability > > otherwise predictions may go > > > wrong. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? > Any > > one found > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > experience? > > Please > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > someone who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Tarun I guess u know there is a pure KP site / and can do well over there and I am a member too and rarely post though,read some posts whatever knowledge comes thru anyone, any source i do use them when I FIND THEM and searching. I do use KP reader 3 as he has collected material form various sources and put in one place, it not that I don't use it. i don't use the subs part -works I do Tarun <tarun_vst wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji , As you say...i hope to close this thread now. Even i would love to learn Kp..i am highly impressed by the way of system. Sir to make vedic system more precise KP was discovered. and better to learn preciseness. Regards Tarun , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarunji, > > I understand why the thread was initiated in the first > place now. > No use of discussing and wasting energies. First of all > KP is not Non Vedic, they cannot understand. I do not > understand how can people comment on a particular approach > without studying the same. > You come to me anytime you wis, and i will show > you that the Chart (Vedic ) can be prepared > within 1.5 hours maximum, with the perfect data, > which even any software will show. > KP will take much longer, about 2-3 hours and more, > because first the vedic chart has to be prepared, > and then one has to prepare the Cuspal Chart , > after the Vedic one has been preparedto > bifurcate the Cusps, and then place the Planets as per > their degrees in varipous cusps, to get the perfect > Picture.. > > before commenting in air, people should sit > down and try to learn, and not just comment in > absurd manners. > > Last Year itself I have prepared about 110 > charts as per Kp method, which includes Vedic Chart > first.Vedic is the base. > > I would rather request you to stop discussions > with those who have not studied a subject and just > commenting for the sake of it. > > The pinpointing or short cuts,which people know > as KP astrologers, does not come by just studying the > placement of 9 planets in 12 signs. It comes, with > toil and sleepless nights and hardwork of many years, to > arrive at these shortcut methods, which may tak > less time to predict and pinpoint, but come with > only pre-requisites of proper and chanellised study. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun_vst@> wrote: > > > > Sir to study Vedic chart, one need chart of all family members. > > chahe aap 16 saal laga do. if you go to pinpoint an event. > > > > Even i asked you abt Saturn-Guru Dasha, you were unable to explain > > me abt the results of that. ... > > > > > > a right KP astrologer can do this firmly. I am not opposing vedic > > astrology. but i am 100% sure that event cannot be pin-pointed in > > vedic system. and SO KP WAS DISCOVERED. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > right > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI CHART > > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes take > > the road and get back > > > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > > wrote: tarun bhai- this > > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > > brain to > > > calculate. :-) > > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > > capability > > > otherwise predictions may go > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? > > Any > > > one found > > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > > experience? > > > Please > > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > > > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > someone who knows. > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear astroniket, Even You are a Member of KP Forum, and even a senior member with whom I have am having a scuffle since few days I have introduced him to the KP Forum alongwith a few others. Why have I done so ? Simply so that all can learn and benefit and not just few.I always wished that all astrologers could share and learn from each other, and bceome better by every passing month. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " astroiniket " <astroiniket wrote: > > I THINK THESE POSTINGS WILL BE IN PURE KP ROOMS, BECOZ THEIR ARE SO > MANY LEARNED PEOPLE WHO CAN ANSWER WELL. > > RGDS > NIKET > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > The Dasha system -Vimsottari itself is based on the > > nakshatra of the Moon. And what does the Sub Lord of > > the Moon become ? It becomes the pratyantar Lord at > > the time of Your Birth. Check it out . > > > > In the same way we treat sublords of all planets as > > the direcion givers of the planets, just as the > > Moons sublord gives us the vimsottari dasha commencing. > > > > I did not want to write the above things on a public > > forum, because these are all secrets unwritten in any > > book, and do not wish to cast pearls before .... > > but since you are a student of Kp, and they > > are treating Kp as Non vedic, > > due to their lack of study and iability of > > resources in their minds to gauge the depth, > > I have put the above before you. > > > > because we do not know any particular approach > > does not give us a right to ridicule it. > > > > I have many more such matters which i can present > > and make the subject astoundingly clear and > > in clarity to understand that KP and vedic > > are not different but part of a whole, > > which is Parashar. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun_vst@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant ji, > > > > > > few more questions abt Vedic system sir. > > > > > > wht is the real vedic astrology...constellation/ star based > > > or greek system of house division.... > > > > > > parashara one or nadi one....we have to justify tht too sir > > > > > > what is the base of dasha system....can we rationalise it .?? > > > is it normal system or progression of moon to diff sub division > of > > > nakshatra... > > > > > > i guess it is progresson of moon. > > > sir since u do not explain the rationale of yr analysis - it is > > > difficult for me to learn from yr mails > > > > > > I hope that as a vedic Astrologer, you can suggest me the > aforesaid > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI > CHART > > > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes > take > > > the road and get back > > > > > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > > > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > > > wrote: tarun bhai- this > > > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ > <tarun_vst@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > > > brain to > > > > calculate. :-) > > > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > > > capability > > > > otherwise predictions may go > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? > > > Any > > > > one found > > > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > > > experience? > > > > Please > > > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading > messenger. > > > > Click here http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > > someone who knows. > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Sir, lets go together their. but still my questions are unanswered abt vedic system. I know that forum from long and learning from their mails also. But i please you to answer my queries on vedic system. or if you cannot then i think to close the thread. I thought that your long life's experience on astrology would help me to understand and find out the qustions pending from long...but my unfortunately noone could answer. Regards, Tarun... , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Tarun > > I guess u know there is a pure KP site > > / > > and can do well over there and I am a member too and rarely post though,read some posts whatever knowledge comes thru anyone, any source i do use them when I FIND THEM and searching. > > I do use KP reader 3 as he has collected material form various sources and put in one place, it not that I don't use it. i don't use the subs part -works I do > > > > Tarun <tarun_vst wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji , > > As you say...i hope to close this thread now. > > Even i would love to learn Kp..i am highly impressed by the way of > system. > Sir to make vedic system more precise KP was discovered. and better > to learn preciseness. > > Regards > Tarun > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Tarunji, > > > > I understand why the thread was initiated in the first > > place now. > > No use of discussing and wasting energies. First of all > > KP is not Non Vedic, they cannot understand. I do not > > understand how can people comment on a particular approach > > without studying the same. > > You come to me anytime you wis, and i will show > > you that the Chart (Vedic ) can be prepared > > within 1.5 hours maximum, with the perfect data, > > which even any software will show. > > KP will take much longer, about 2-3 hours and more, > > because first the vedic chart has to be prepared, > > and then one has to prepare the Cuspal Chart , > > after the Vedic one has been preparedto > > bifurcate the Cusps, and then place the Planets as per > > their degrees in varipous cusps, to get the perfect > > Picture.. > > > > before commenting in air, people should sit > > down and try to learn, and not just comment in > > absurd manners. > > > > Last Year itself I have prepared about 110 > > charts as per Kp method, which includes Vedic Chart > > first.Vedic is the base. > > > > I would rather request you to stop discussions > > with those who have not studied a subject and just > > commenting for the sake of it. > > > > The pinpointing or short cuts,which people know > > as KP astrologers, does not come by just studying the > > placement of 9 planets in 12 signs. It comes, with > > toil and sleepless nights and hardwork of many years, to > > arrive at these shortcut methods, which may tak > > less time to predict and pinpoint, but come with > > only pre-requisites of proper and chanellised study. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun_vst@> > wrote: > > > > > > Sir to study Vedic chart, one need chart of all family > members. > > > chahe aap 16 saal laga do. if you go to pinpoint an event. > > > > > > Even i asked you abt Saturn-Guru Dasha, you were unable to > explain > > > me abt the results of that. ... > > > > > > > > > a right KP astrologer can do this firmly. I am not opposing > vedic > > > astrology. but i am 100% sure that event cannot be pin- pointed > in > > > vedic system. and SO KP WAS DISCOVERED. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > if this is NEWS TO YO TO CALICULATE A FULL VEDIC OR PARASARI > CHART > > > u need 16 hrs of uninterrupted work assuming u make no mistakes > take > > > the road and get back > > > > > > > > now be it parasari, jaimini or KP or whatver s/w exist but try > > > doing a vddic chart and see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@> > > > wrote: tarun bhai- this > > > disadvantage with all system not only with KP :-)) > > > > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~ > <tarun_vst@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > KP's most biggest disadvantage is that the astrologer need > > > brain to > > > > calculate. :-) > > > > > He should be enough honest to read charts with all his > > > capability > > > > otherwise predictions may go > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear pappa Bhatt, > > > > > > > > > > > > But even if we find that, how is it going to help us? > > > > > > If You may please tell us that, then we > > > > > > can move further to discussing the disadvantages. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > > > <pappa_bhat@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP > Astrology? > > > Any > > > > one found > > > > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal > > > experience? > > > > Please > > > > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Pappa Bhat ji, The advantage of KP astrology itself is its disadvantage. To state some - 1) The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that discuss 'Trisphuta based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. That is one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is valid and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an advantage. Even though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never admitted from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the curse of tradition is associated with the same. This is a disadvantage. 2) KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage. 3) KP astrologers do a lot of calculations and thus succeed in impressing the scientific minded modern generation. This is an advantage. But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is presented to them and become a laughing stock before the learned people. This is a disadvantage. 4) Krishnamoorti did a lot of research on significance and provides us with a good list that tallies with the modern circumstances and knowledge. This is an advantage. But in doing so he mixed up western, eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything. This is a disadvantage. And the list goes on... I think by now you might have got an understanding about the not only the disadvantages of KP system, but also about the advantages of it. Love, Sreenadh , " pappa_bhat " <pappa_bhat wrote: > > Hii friends, > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one found > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? Please > share with me. > > Thank U. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Sreenadh , I request you to please concentrate on Argala, which is actually a Junior classs students subject in astrology. //ven though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never admitted > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the curse > of tradition is associated with the same. // This is sacrilege. You have no right to call a Astrological stalwart as a stealer . It means clearly that You have not studied his system, but wish to comment on same without any base., like the other common folks who do not know abc of astrology. Who are you to sugest about a revered personality that he has stolen ?What creit yo have to you, to speak like this ? What curse are you talking about ? What is your credibility in Indian astrology to put to disrepte this great man Krishnamoorthy. //But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is and become a laughing stock before the learned > people. This is a disadvantage. // Sorry , it shows that you have met the wrong people. Dont dream please and stay in utopias. //But in doing so he mixed up western, > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything.// That is Your interpretation and not accepted as authentic. What mixing has been done, please explain from eastern, arsha, western and yavana. Dont just write. //KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage.// You know nothing on ayanamshas, it means.It also implies you do not know base of Lahiri ayanamsha too. Dont just comment to look smart, when you are not even a fool. Please talk with substance man. i have many more things to comment on You, but would not unless I am provocated. I just restricted myself to this post and that too in short. Bhaskar. , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Pappa Bhat ji, > The advantage of KP astrology itself is its disadvantage. To state > some - > > 1) The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that discuss 'Trisphuta > based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- > Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. That is > one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam > Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is valid > and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an > advantage. Even though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never admitted > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the curse > of tradition is associated with the same. This is a disadvantage. > 2) KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage. > 3) KP astrologers do a lot of calculations and thus succeed in > impressing the scientific minded modern generation. This is an > advantage. But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is > presented to them and become a laughing stock before the learned > people. This is a disadvantage. > 4) Krishnamoorti did a lot of research on significance and provides > us with a good list that tallies with the modern circumstances and > knowledge. This is an advantage. But in doing so he mixed up western, > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything. This is a > disadvantage. > And the list goes on... I think by now you might have got an > understanding about the not only the disadvantages of KP system, but > also about the advantages of it. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " pappa_bhat " > <pappa_bhat@> wrote: > > > > Hii friends, > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one > found > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > Please > > share with me. > > > > Thank U. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Bhasker ji, You heared enough from others, in due way, as deserved. ) There is no need for me to comment on your mail. Sreenadh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh , > > I request you to please concentrate on Argala, which is actually > a Junior classs students subject in astrology. > > //ven though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never admitted > > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the curse > > of tradition is associated with the same. // > > This is sacrilege. You have no right to call > a Astrological stalwart as a stealer . It means clearly that You > have not studied his system, but wish to comment on same without > any base., like the other common folks who do not know abc of > astrology. Who are you to sugest about a revered personality that he > has stolen ?What creit yo have to you, to speak like this ? > What curse are you talking about ? What is your credibility > in Indian astrology to put to disrepte this great man Krishnamoorthy. > > //But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is > and become a laughing stock before the learned > > people. This is a disadvantage. // > Sorry , it shows that you have met the wrong people. > Dont dream please and stay in utopias. > > //But in doing so he mixed up western, > > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything.// > > That is Your interpretation and not accepted as > authentic. What mixing has been done, please explain from > eastern, arsha, western and yavana. Dont just write. > > //KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage.// > > You know nothing on ayanamshas, it means.It also > implies you do not know base of Lahiri ayanamsha too. > > Dont just comment to look smart, when you are not even a fool. > > Please talk with substance man. > i have many more things to comment on You, > but would not unless I am provocated. I just > restricted myself to this > post and that too in short. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pappa Bhat ji, > > The advantage of KP astrology itself is its disadvantage. To state > > some - > > > > 1) The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that discuss 'Trisphuta > > based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- > > Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. That is > > one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam > > Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is valid > > and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an > > advantage. Even though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never admitted > > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the curse > > of tradition is associated with the same. This is a disadvantage. > > 2) KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage. > > 3) KP astrologers do a lot of calculations and thus succeed in > > impressing the scientific minded modern generation. This is an > > advantage. But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is > > presented to them and become a laughing stock before the learned > > people. This is a disadvantage. > > 4) Krishnamoorti did a lot of research on significance and provides > > us with a good list that tallies with the modern circumstances and > > knowledge. This is an advantage. But in doing so he mixed up western, > > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything. This is a > > disadvantage. > > And the list goes on... I think by now you might have got an > > understanding about the not only the disadvantages of KP system, but > > also about the advantages of it. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > <pappa_bhat@> wrote: > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one > > found > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > > Please > > > share with me. > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, A brilliant expose of the KP system. No wonder the KP system is not considered as Vedic. With regards, Girish , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Pappa Bhat ji, > The advantage of KP astrology itself is its disadvantage. To state > some - > > 1) The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that discuss 'Trisphuta > based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- > Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. That is > one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam > Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is valid > and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an > advantage. Even though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never admitted > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the curse > of tradition is associated with the same. This is a disadvantage. > 2) KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage. > 3) KP astrologers do a lot of calculations and thus succeed in > impressing the scientific minded modern generation. This is an > advantage. But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is > presented to them and become a laughing stock before the learned > people. This is a disadvantage. > 4) Krishnamoorti did a lot of research on significance and provides > us with a good list that tallies with the modern circumstances and > knowledge. This is an advantage. But in doing so he mixed up western, > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything. This is a > disadvantage. > And the list goes on... I think by now you might have got an > understanding about the not only the disadvantages of KP system, but > also about the advantages of it. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " pappa_bhat " > <pappa_bhat@> wrote: > > > > Hii friends, > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one > found > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > Please > > share with me. > > > > Thank U. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I do not care whether some one values my comments or not. The truth does not change simply because one individual doesn't agree. As for being a member, I am a member of this groups as much as every body else and have a right to express my views. Girish , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > No one values Your comments, and do not try to ignite fires > where they have been extinguished. > > Its people like you, the front seat benchers who spoil > the show with their road side comments. > > And its the idiots who consider the KP system as Non vedic. > > Talk with substance and Logic, and dont just pass > comments just because you have been given space here. > > What is the brilliant expose ? > > No wonder ? You are not Not considered as a member here but a > duplicate alias id because you just come with hate mails, > to create fightings in the Forum. > > remember one law, which is not written anywhere in any book, but you > are fortunate to get advice from me., > " Try to create fights bewteen 2 or more people and try to spread > hatred , and within 48 hours, Your own House and own family members > would become a part of this story and would have to bear the brunt of > th rinabandhan and evil karma created., > because of You " . > > So just dont do it. > I can see right now You sexual organs and generative system > alongwith kidneys is now under this attack caused by Your > spilling filth, and if you dont mend your ways, then within 27 days > You will suffer loss of both kidneys. > > I hope you mend your ways and become a good man. > Bhaskar. > , " girish_raheja " > <girish_raheja@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > A brilliant expose of the KP system. No wonder the KP system is not > > considered as Vedic. > > > > With regards, > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pappa Bhat ji, > > > The advantage of KP astrology itself is its disadvantage. To > > state > > > some - > > > > > > 1) The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that > > discuss 'Trisphuta > > > based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- > > > Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. That > > is > > > one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam > > > Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is valid > > > and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an > > > advantage. Even though Krishnamoorti took or (since he never > > admitted > > > from where he actually took it) steal the system, and thus the > > curse > > > of tradition is associated with the same. This is a disadvantage. > > > 2) KP system uses an Ayanamsa which is best suited for it (in > > > Krishnamoorti's words) - this is an advantage. But that Ayanamsa > > > itself is baseless and does not have any vedic/indian or logical > > > foundation and therefore this itself is another disadvantage. > > > 3) KP astrologers do a lot of calculations and thus succeed in > > > impressing the scientific minded modern generation. This is an > > > advantage. But they come up with nothing and miserably fail in > > > prediction (by using KP system alone) when a simple natal chart is > > > presented to them and become a laughing stock before the learned > > > people. This is a disadvantage. > > > 4) Krishnamoorti did a lot of research on significance and > > provides > > > us with a good list that tallies with the modern circumstances and > > > knowledge. This is an advantage. But in doing so he mixed up > > western, > > > eastern, arsha, yavana systems and messed up everything. This is a > > > disadvantage. > > > And the list goes on... I think by now you might have got an > > > understanding about the not only the disadvantages of KP system, > > but > > > also about the advantages of it. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " pappa_bhat " > > > <pappa_bhat@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hii friends, > > > > > > > > Can any body tell me about disadvantage of KP Astrology? Any one > > > found > > > > any disadvantage or minus point in KP in personal experience? > > > Please > > > > share with me. > > > > > > > > Thank U. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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