Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Sunil, Well u r taking some lengthy lines on simpler points like I did not mean if we don't do free readings it will end Jyotish light. don't u c that after I posted a reply on that next day some one else posted a question on this subject [loosing on share] that was my motive unless we cover a subject there may be many new members who don't know the scope of the subject and may be suffering silently most know astrology means marriage matching and not beyond it. it is a free exchange that keeps the subject alive and as far as pratosh is concerned I said many times I have not entertained his questions so far it was the 1st in many posts of his as subject was different from on women to shares. and ABOUT THE ONES WHO CAN PAY AND DON'T PAY it is a shame on their part for abusing our situation and I have posted on this many times. WHATEVER THEY NEED TO SUPPORT THEIR LIVES, FAMILIES same holds good for astrologers as they too have bills to pay for NET, electricity, pc its maintenances, up grade, then family, rents, health issues so they need to pay something on their own there are 2 members who had paid me just rs 200 on their own when i felt they can't pay and said don't worry there is no need too for the moment, there are many who can pay u ten times this and dont pay. and they THINK they r smart in posting in a few sites an d get it free. their smartness is their undoing DO THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MAKE OUT A GOOD PREDICTION on their own no, with too many advices they can't choose the right one and benefit from one so it is their own grave they r digging. HERE TOO I HAVE SAID WAIT FOR THE COURSE OF TIME TO PASS ON A FEW READINGS ONLY IF It FAILS POST AGAIN if they happen and u want to confirm what next also post again, but don't flood the space and deny other members a chance to post their situation which may be more urgent. and feuds like the ones we saw will only scare them away, if we choose to be abusive like them we must ignore bad people and not react to them and if one sows Bad karma sure he will reap its fruits with or without our reaction. and what options we have to filter them mail me we can try how to make sure we do reduce such cases will help no one must abuse our kindness as weakness. pl see it in the light I have posted only It is not against anyone or for anyone Bu Jyotish alone. best wishes sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Om krishna guru, Respected prasanthji , A person if u wanted to find out if a abuse ,if he is getting 100s of advise or if it is abusing in personal chats ,it is easy and can be controlled .And there r so many ways in the world . Only if u hav a wish u hav way ,And dont giv the impression to any body that if u dont giv free astro all lite of astro will go away ,u know in chennai where u liv how many are esp from traditional families giving it for free and that is the case of all south and may be many other part of india . Even in this grp it is clearly says that it is a forum for learning differrent technic of astrology .the forum is a platform for both beginners and experts to discuss on chart analysis, remedial measures and all related topics. It has members all over the world who exchange ideas and thoughts in a friendly, respectful sphere. And if we r sincere that we can control all menaces and the name astrology and astrologers will come up ,ppl will start respecting them .We will hav enough time for helping genuine ppl and same time apply all technics we mastered ,my request is only to monitor the trend , here whats is happening ,i can get a continous free reading without caring other persons needs or his privacy and the poor persons struggles when this persons asking with their questionaire as if he is trying to squeese u out and this stupid astrologers think that they r doing some good karma , No sir if u feed --cobra then u know whats the karmik results ,God has also given us budhi to control and in the name of this subjuct is spiritual or other things dont fool ourself . i can sent u 100s of mail --where the cleint has capacity to pay u ,more than enough .Dont u think some body owns 4 restaurent in us has any capacity ,or a jeweller in mumbai has any capacity or a Govt secretary has any capacity . But they will intrude ur chat and mails and start pumping requests and the moment after he gets a reading, he is in other forums --do u think sir its lite of astrology or they r doing tandava dance of sivaji on the head of poor astrologer ,i am not used to it ,that may be reason and i dont know whether its part of our profession --a professional hazard . I tried a step and may be 2 morrow i myself will come out with such steps ,if gurus like u dont react in proper time . If i wanted to chase out a guy in this internet world ,esp if some body sitting in india as i am in delhi is peanut for me . thanks and regrds sunil nair . om shreem mahalxmai namah. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Sunil, > > well the problem u say is tru and the pitfalls also > > as u sai dmany approach diff astrologers with same ID or diff ID how can we know this man has hurty u unless u have other info of him/her say name location, mobile no etc some background that must be shared > > and the example u gave a of a different site's moderator is when moderator is active if u remember even in last war between the 2 elements here TANVIR said he rarely readds mails so it can't be done here. it was monitored fora short time by Ashutosh who was v strict at times too strict too but he left before some order came in we need some strict times then some freedom, else too much of abuse. both in words and use of services by so called smart ppl. > > if they feelthey got a free reading calling someone a bad name and praise another to get a free reading it means he is taking u for a ride. so such posts must be ignored even if they offer to pay. > > if one is serious without any ref to any other must put his case and depending on his capacity can pay or not pay, no one is here for money but more to keep the great JYOTI of jyotish alive. > > if we don't play by the rules of light it becomes a wild fire and we also burn in it to ashes. > > Best wishes > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > om krishna guru, > > dear bhaskarji and prashnathji , > > First let me thank u and also for finding a solution for the > problems we r facing. > > yes we shud make some place where we can report abuses and atleast > seniors shud take care of any body budding or seniors or guru can become > memebr and shud do monthly appraisals . > > This is in the interest of all ppl ,and we can stop all kinds of > pestering elements . > > Actualy why someone feels some body attacks u,because its one month > effort also going waist --when some one by hiding in the protection of > net and they think by abusing and spreading some roumours they think > they can do some harm and they think they r at safe distance and > thinks un hurt .And most of the persons will be using alibis or fake ids > > . Even recently one group owner rejected a mans query and erased his > message from his group when he find this man has abused some body in > differrent forum and even though they represent differrent school of > thoughts in indian astrology.So u think that many group owners also > ready to co operate and if astrologers decide then what cannot happen > ---we can show this ppl . > > So my all support for new alliance from ur side ,and we r all will be > there with u . > > with regds and respects > > sunil nair. > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > Thank You Sir. > > Thats a honest reply. > > > > And I have always appreciated your hardwork > > too on the forums. and always stood by you > > whenever anyone took a rub at You. > > pl remember that too.,whenever you > > remember me. > > And would never like to talk wrong with you, but > > prefer to leave the Forums rather than talk dirty > > with you, Shri Arjunji and a few others. > > I have always respected hardworking people who serve > > others. In Your case > > You dont even know how many are going to come back > > as paid customers, yet you serve them faithfully. > > thats what I appreciate. In any case from Forum, > > the ratio of Clients is 1:500 readings. > > one client for every 500 readings one makes. > > which also i said on the higher side. > > Then what right have these people to create conflicts > > between us and make us loose our energies ? > > > > hats why I had given you a suggestion long back, that > > we have to talk between each other (few astrologers) > > and form a syndicate type, so that no one can fool us > > and we can do our jobs without disturbance. > > > > Does it look good to others, Yourself > > or my ownsellf if i talk the way I did with you > > today ? It hurts me to talk bad with selfless workers > > like you. > > > > We should in future never allow these people to > > take advantage and create frictions > > between us. > > > > Brickbats may come in this profession, if praise > > can come. so thats natural, but not for doing > > no wrong. Why are people like that , when they stop > > receiving for free, then they talk against us ? > > Why is the world becoming so selfish and self centred ? > > > > Thank You for the understanding post. > > > > affectionately. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > gbp_kumar@ wrote: > > > > > > Baskar > > > > > > I never took sides > > > > > > I already said last time end now after reading a few lines felt it > > was in bad tates and deleted thim so cant say the real extent of the > > material exchanged as i get mails in inbox not web mode so why keep > > abusive [by aby1] thrash in my inbox > > > > > > i stepped in this TIME as last time it went on for too long did not > > want a actipn replay of it so only to stop the chain not supporting > > anyone here or opposing any1 > > > > > > my reading was only on stk mkt not personal query of pratosh HAVE > > not done one so far also none of his posts like u said even last time > > I had ever supported or read then also I called for peace BUT after > > moderator stepped in > > > > > > and THAT TIME BOTH OF U played too low so what can we do, did not > > want see ato repeat same again > > > > > > my interest is astrology NOT INDIVIDUALS > > > > > > I never took praise or criticisms personally sdafe was is make it > > clear subject is imp if one is happy with a praise u must also expect > > brick bats same way > > > > > > I REPAT I DON'T SUPPORT ANYONE BEHAVING LIKE WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME > > OR THIS TIME > > > > > > TO STOOP IT ONLY DID THIS POST > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > I do not have any personal feud with anybody. > > > And these feuds are caused specially when there > > > is no Unity among astrologers. > > > And I remember the Moderators message very well, > > > thats why I never reply in the same > > > manner as the abuses have come to me. > > > > > > I would like to ask the wise man,that what was > > > the need to entertain any enquiry of a person > > > who was very abusive just few weeks ago ? > > > Why are we supporting them or trying to show helping > > > hand when we know about their backgrounds since > > > he has been appearing on all Forums without fail > > > and continously. > > > > > > The disgusting part is that when Your brother was > > > abused in such a dirty manner last time from this > > > member, You choose to still reply him and extended > > > a very kind approach, which is unnatural , > > > now what is the point of wise talking and all this maturity, > > > when actions do not support such preaching. > > > I have always seen silence on this > > > astrologers part whenever I was hit badly by others, > > > and whenever I spoke up, this wise man highlights my > > > raised voice. > > > > > > It is a sad day for both astrologers and the science > > > of astrology, where such disparities exist, and one > > > astrologer enjoys, when the other is bludgeoned > > > and expresses his enjoyment by supporting > > > the perpetrators. > > > > > > I had enough of this diplomacy and double behaviours. > > > I dont like hypocrisy. Boss . Its a sad day for me too. > > > All of you wise men are great. Let me be. > > > > > > Please spare me and dont bring my name anymore now. > > > The current matter stands closed for me now. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Members Sunil Nair, Bhaskar, Pratosh > > > > > > > > the moderator had in the last dual between Baskar and pratosh said > > > if they have any personal feuds to be dealt in their personal ID's > and > > > spare the forum space. > > > > > > > > I think this message is still VALID in this context and wherever > > > personal issues are in the foreground and not ASTROLOGY, its > > > disgusting to say the least like last time this time too read a few > > > lines and then deleted all threads with the subject between the 3 > > members > > > > > > > > another SAD DAY FOR ASTROLOGERS where we need to guide people we > > > have to be told by others how to behave., least we can do is IGNORE > > > such mails and they will die its own death > > > > > > > > I replied to the mail on share market alone it is my 1st ever on > > > Pratosh's mail req in the past 1 and half yrs I had refused to > > > answer most of his other requests or chats which have little or no > > > base yet and one point or or piece ones I decline get back to books > I > > > have given u and get a full time course from ICAS chennai chapter > that > > > costs v little and gives u more > > > > > > > > above all ANY ASTROLOGER WITHOUT HUMILITY, COMPASSION, CAREFUL > > > SPEECH WRITINGS WILL not go the distance astrology is about both a > > > reading and a tender touch emotionally to a querient [not client is > a > > > commercial word] > > > > > > > > let us behave like at least normal civilised people > > > > > > > > thanks for reading this > > > > > > > > let there be peace, and space for the needy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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