Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 HM. how r u sure the parents were wrong? amd is there any proof to this esp say a dowry claim etc why will parents want to make their wards life miserable it must be better choice surely but for this love of a guts less person. who cud have at least told the girl's family who wud have called it off and saved the fuss now. this man is a coward and wicked one too else why will he torture his legal wife and also keep the lover ona cloud to melt away best wishes Honey malhotra <lotus7755 wrote: To: Honey malhotra <lotus7755 Sun, 20 May 2007 03:54:33 +0100 (BST) Re: Re: i want to father a child i agree with you ashna. mere khyal se yeh admi apne parnts aur beloved dono ko chod nahi sakta. but the action that he has taken is shameful at the time of such situation right action and decision is important. but as we see that nly that guy is not to blame. here the greatest sinner are the family members who for there selfish reasons and society forcefully spoiled the life of there own son as well as the girl whom they have selected for there son. was it not wrong in there part to fix their sons marriage without telling the truth of son to the parents of girl as well as girl? i think they might have created such situation for the son thats why ganesh had to marry the girl. other wise he could have easily set in the married life with the new girl. but now his concious is not allowing him to do more sins. sir i think here revolution is necessary. don't u think here he can set example in front of society and parents who for the sake of there selfish desires spoil so many lives. they play with the life of their own son/girl and also with he another girl/boy whom they select appropriate for them. sir can we help him astrologically if it is possible for him to correct the situation. It is never late to correct the situation or to fight for the truth. If he is trying to correct the situation. is there possibility so that he can release the girl. becoz agar hum dekhe to for a girl it is not right to live with such person who already loves another. suppose if he asks her and if she doesnot want to live with him now what are the astro details. if this could help him to handle the situation it will be best example. fo the parents so plz if any respected person help him abt how he is going to face the siuation. or how his married life is going to proceed. or if there are chances of second marriage. so he can get the strength of solving the problem it seems that the main problem with this guy is that he got the strength that he needed was after marriage. as he is relising his fault now. so plz display the astro details of this guy as per my thoughts sorry if i wrote anything wrong. but this is my opinion. the change is neede in our society also so why not from here. such examples are seem every where. Ashna Singh <ashna_singh_2002 wrote: Hi, I wanna add that family/parental pressure is strong, but that doesn't make it right!! This is goin on all the time..and it must stop becus lives are getting ruined. It's people like Ganesh, who are basically spineless ...not sure if they know the true meaning of love. It's evil on the part of parents too, to force their children to sacrifice in such a way. Either way, someone loses. But i'll tell you something, it's better to break egos than to break hearts. Parents are influenced by society, and wot society says...one should not worry wot others say, though difficult.....it's harder on the lovers..believe me, it's hell for people who lose their loves to arranged marriages..and that is the biggest sin....to betray ur lover. The wife in the case is always innocent...it's unfair to not give her a chance to deny you and let her decide if she wants someone else's love. I believe if she has more than a single digit IQ, then she won't prefer to be settled for...or be somebody's sloppy seconds. But imagine the hell put thru the lover, who has her/his heartbroken simply becus she/he didn't belong to a particular caste or religion, or watever petty differences!!! The fault goes to the families who look at their selfish needs rather than the happiness of their children. That's sad to begin with...and even more sad is the fact that some of the girl/guys in this case are educated people...who know to make better choices of their lives. " Saath pheres " is a sacred bond, but there's an even bigger bond, that's LOVE..and here is a good example of a guy not being able to " perform " for his wife becus he loves another...goes to show you the strength of that bond...yet the fool wasn't strong enough to fight for his love and stand ground. WHAT A SHAME!! In the end, you have incurred alot of sin simply becus you weren't man enough to stand up for ur love. Now live in that unhappy marriage.....becus that is all you deserve. I wanna see how ur parents will help you in this department since they were instrumental in you getting married to this girl. Are they gonna be there to console the girl abt why her hubby doesn't wanna touch her?? Are they gonna help you forget ur lover...are they gonna do anything at all?? It's wrong....parents need to become loving rather than demanding. If you cannot see the tears in ur son's eyes when he's telling you he loves another, ur not worthy of being a parent. A mother could not see her child hurt. A true mother could not see her child hurt. Am sorry if this hurts the sentiments of some of you...!! , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst wrote: > > Dear Members, > > The story this guy told is a general problem in this generation..love with someone else and > marriage only as per parents. Whatever reason it is but this is happening. > > not only boys, many girls are on this same track, love with someone else and marriage with else. > > reason might be success / money / family values...etc.. > > now if we go for such things than we can say some planets are making these conditions not > happening in their lives...its all written by god..so we should accept it as it is. > > I am also victim of such condition. i m unmarried but someone did that > > Hopefully we can search for marital harmony in that couple. > > Regards > > Tarun > > > --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > Dear Amitab, Bhaskar and others > > > > I saw the mail and first felt neds to give him an earful before even reading any other mails and > > rightly all of u too have scoffed at him what a pity he can still father a child like any stray > > dog does he need astrology and that too hurt si many lives > > > > > > > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri wrote: No sane > > person would agree to your method of proceeding in life - where do you want your karma to lead > > you? > > > > Just goes to show how irrational actions and thought can drop people to the deepest of the > > deeps. Such thoughts at this stage are deplorable, shameful, vengeful... to say the least! > > > > Now that you did not have the courage to fight for what you felt was right make the best of > > the developments. Forget the past as a closed chapter for this life. You may get your current > > love, maybe in the next life. > > > > Make this lady happy rather than making many more unhappy in your attempt to convert your > > thoughts into action... satisfaction in every action done by HIM gives everlasting sweetness. It > > is very difficult to develop SANTOSH in life! Try it and see how life changes for the > > better...every cloud has a silver lining... > > > > > > Amitabh Shastri > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > I agree to Aashnas Mail. > > Yes pyaar karnewale kabhi darte nahin,darte nahi, > > Joh Darte hain woh pyaar karte nahin. > > > > You have the guts to divorce this wife, > > and have guts to marry a new girl and impergnate her. > > But never had guts to refuse the > > marriage in the first place. > > By your not having relations with your legally > > wedded wife, does not give you a license to re-marry > > again, and does not denote any greatness on your part. > > Whether You have has relations or not with her, > > once you leave her, she would only be > > treated as SECOND HAND and not treated like one > > would treat a new Virgin Bride. > > Sorry to say, but such mails and people, make me > > sick. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > -- In , " Ashna Singh " > > <ashna_singh_2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi there, > > > It makes me sad to read such things...and NO OFFENCE, but you > > > should have been strong enough to avoid marrying her...becus now not > > > only have you ruined ur lover's life, but also ur new wife and ur > > > own life!!! I am sorry...i know this is not my business....but wot > > > is wrong with you people...falling in love, yet not being able to > > > fight for that love. In listening to ur parents, you've > > > married...did you not think abt the fact that you could not possibly > > > give this wife of urs a fair chance at love, something that a > > > marriage entails, since ur in love with another???? > > > Nonsense!! Utter nonsense! Now you wanna father a child, that too > > > becus ur parents want it....MY GOODNESS! Ur obviously afraid of ur > > > parents, and dear, JO PYAAR KARTE HAIN, WOH DARTE NAHIN....JOH DARTE > > > HAIN, WOH PYAAR KARTE NAHIN!!! Grow a backbone, PLEASEE!! > > > > > > > > > > > > , ganesh b <gvb1974@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > my details are > > > > > > > > i m married with a girl of my parent choice just few > > > > days before. she is a girl of my parents chice. > > > > actually i was in love with another. sir this girl is > > > > not as per my desire. but my parents and all family > > > > members forced me to do.but i m unable to set > > > > relations with her. sir how will be my married life. > > > > whether i will father a child. as i m not able to live > > > > with her so. how to solve this problem . i am unable > > > > to set relationship with her. as i am already involved > > > > with another. but due to my parents force i married to > > > > this girl. sir i m afraid if i wil do unjustice to > > > > this girl also. but i cant help. sir how to solve this > > > > prob and when i will become father of a child as my > > > > parents are greatly waitng for my child. > > > > > > > > Sir kya main mere parents ka sapna pura kar sakunga. i > > > > find it very difficult. i m going through very > > > > critical perid. > > > > > > > > > > > > i can't live with that girl we are facing clashes. > > > > sir i want to take divorce. > > > > > > > > if divorce is possible. > > > > we are not having any physical relationship > > > > sir is there second marriage so that i can father a > > > > child > > > > sir is it possible to marry with my beloved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dob - 31/8/1974 > > > > time - 6.35 am > > > > latitude,longitude - 21 10 n 75 34 > > > > > > > > place - house was in nashirabad a village but hospital > > > > was in jalgaon near bhusawal > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you > > > to download CHAT? > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. 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Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Yes He is a gutless man. Most of us have loved others before marriage,and could not tell our parents that. But now know its a sin to think of our old love in the previous terms. One should learn to respect the wife he has married and also the lover who is married to someone else or unmarried now after we have married someone else. We cannot think on any physical plane now, and even to come on a platform of mental thinking with regards to old lover is not proper now.This is like a bullet fired from a ShotGun which cannot be reversed. To ask for astrological advice on such issues is a sacrilege, and so is to now go back on ones decesion after he has already married. If one really loves another then, now sjhould show his real love by Giving ie. allowing his lover to marry another, in fact finding a suitable Groom for her and blessing them. This is real love which always gives and stays in the heart. And not wanting to demand the other physically when one has already been bethrothed to someone else. Or else if he really has the guts then let him keep his old love as his second wife, then he would be considered a better man if not a complete man. Sorry for saying anything objectionable. I dont like to beat around the bush. One should talk honestly . You cant keep 2 birds in one hand.Either bring both of them to the same cage, or leave one. regards, Bhaskar. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > HM. > how r u sure the parents were wrong? amd is there any proof to this > > esp say a dowry claim etc why will parents want to make their wards life miserable it must be better choice surely but for this love of a guts less person. > who cud have at least told the girl's family who wud have called it off and saved the fuss now. > > this man is a coward and wicked one too else why will he torture his legal wife and also keep the lover ona cloud to melt away > > best wishes > > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 wrote: To: > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 > Sun, 20 May 2007 03:54:33 +0100 (BST) > Re: Re: i want to father a child > > i agree with you ashna. > > mere khyal se yeh admi apne parnts aur beloved dono ko chod nahi sakta. > > but the action that he has taken is shameful > > at the time of such situation right action and decision is important. > > but as we see that nly that guy is not to blame. here the greatest sinner are the family members who for there selfish reasons and society forcefully spoiled the life of there own son as well as the girl whom they have selected for there son. > was it not wrong in there part to fix their sons marriage without telling the truth of son to the parents of girl as well as girl? > > > i think they might have created such situation for the son thats why ganesh had to marry the girl. > > other wise he could have easily set in the married life with the new girl. > > but now his concious is not allowing him to do more sins. > > > sir i think here revolution is necessary. > > don't u think here he can set example in front of society and parents who for the sake of there selfish desires spoil so many lives. they play with the life of their own son/girl and also with he another girl/boy whom they select appropriate for them. > > > sir can we help him astrologically if it is possible for him to correct the situation. > > It is never late to correct the situation or to fight for the truth. > > If he is trying to correct the situation. is there possibility so that he can release the girl. > > becoz agar hum dekhe to for a girl it is not right to live with such person who already loves another. > > suppose if he asks her and if she doesnot want to live with him now > what are the astro details. > > if this could help him to handle the situation it will be best example. > > fo the parents > > so plz if any respected person help him abt how he is going to face the siuation. or how his married life is going to proceed. > > or if there are chances of second marriage. so he can get the strength of solving the problem > > it seems that the main problem with this guy is that he got the strength that he needed was after marriage. as he is relising his fault now. > > so plz display the astro details of this guy as per my thoughts > > > sorry if i wrote anything wrong. but this is my opinion. > > the change is neede in our society also > so why not from here. > > such examples are seem every where. > > > > > Ashna Singh <ashna_singh_2002 wrote: > Hi, > I wanna add that family/parental pressure is strong, but that > doesn't make it right!! This is goin on all the time..and it must > stop becus lives are getting ruined. It's people like Ganesh, who > are basically spineless ...not sure if they know the true meaning of > love. It's evil on the part of parents too, to force their children > to sacrifice in such a way. Either way, someone loses. But i'll tell > you something, it's better to break egos than to break hearts. > Parents are influenced by society, and wot society says...one should > not worry wot others say, though difficult.....it's harder on the > lovers..believe me, it's hell for people who lose their loves to > arranged marriages..and that is the biggest sin....to betray ur > lover. > The wife in the case is always innocent...it's unfair to not give > her a chance to deny you and let her decide if she wants someone > else's love. I believe if she has more than a single digit IQ, then > she won't prefer to be settled for...or be somebody's sloppy seconds. > But imagine the hell put thru the lover, who has her/his heartbroken > simply becus she/he didn't belong to a particular caste or religion, > or watever petty differences!!! The fault goes to the families who > look at their selfish needs rather than the happiness of their > children. That's sad to begin with...and even more sad is the fact > that some of the girl/guys in this case are educated people...who > know to make better choices of their lives. " Saath pheres " is a > sacred bond, but there's an even bigger bond, that's LOVE..and here > is a good example of a guy not being able to " perform " for his wife > becus he loves another...goes to show you the strength of that > bond...yet the fool wasn't strong enough to fight for his love and > stand ground. WHAT A SHAME!! > In the end, you have incurred alot of sin simply becus you weren't > man enough to stand up for ur love. Now live in that unhappy > marriage.....becus that is all you deserve. I wanna see how ur > parents will help you in this department since they were > instrumental in you getting married to this girl. Are they gonna be > there to console the girl abt why her hubby doesn't wanna touch > her?? Are they gonna help you forget ur lover...are they gonna do > anything at all?? It's wrong....parents need to become loving rather > than demanding. If you cannot see the tears in ur son's eyes when > he's telling you he loves another, ur not worthy of being a parent. > A mother could not see her child hurt. A true mother could not see > her child hurt. Am sorry if this hurts the sentiments of some of > you...!! > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > The story this guy told is a general problem in this > generation..love with someone else and > > marriage only as per parents. Whatever reason it is but this is > happening. > > > > not only boys, many girls are on this same track, love with > someone else and marriage with else. > > > > reason might be success / money / family values...etc.. > > > > now if we go for such things than we can say some planets are > making these conditions not > > happening in their lives...its all written by god..so we should > accept it as it is. > > > > I am also victim of such condition. i m unmarried but someone did > that > > > > Hopefully we can search for marital harmony in that couple. > > > > Regards > > > > Tarun > > > > > > --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amitab, Bhaskar and others > > > > > > I saw the mail and first felt neds to give him an earful before > even reading any other mails and > > > rightly all of u too have scoffed at him what a pity he can > still father a child like any stray > > > dog does he need astrology and that too hurt si many lives > > > > > > > > > > > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@> > wrote: No sane > > > person would agree to your method of proceeding in life - where > do you want your karma to lead > > > you? > > > > > > Just goes to show how irrational actions and thought can drop > people to the deepest of the > > > deeps. Such thoughts at this stage are deplorable, shameful, > vengeful... to say the least! > > > > > > Now that you did not have the courage to fight for what you > felt was right make the best of > > > the developments. Forget the past as a closed chapter for this > life. You may get your current > > > love, maybe in the next life. > > > > > > Make this lady happy rather than making many more unhappy in > your attempt to convert your > > > thoughts into action... satisfaction in every action done by HIM > gives everlasting sweetness. It > > > is very difficult to develop SANTOSH in life! Try it and see how > life changes for the > > > better...every cloud has a silver lining... > > > > > > > > > Amitabh Shastri > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > I agree to Aashnas Mail. > > > Yes pyaar karnewale kabhi darte nahin,darte nahi, > > > Joh Darte hain woh pyaar karte nahin. > > > > > > You have the guts to divorce this wife, > > > and have guts to marry a new girl and impergnate her. > > > But never had guts to refuse the > > > marriage in the first place. > > > By your not having relations with your legally > > > wedded wife, does not give you a license to re-marry > > > again, and does not denote any greatness on your part. > > > Whether You have has relations or not with her, > > > once you leave her, she would only be > > > treated as SECOND HAND and not treated like one > > > would treat a new Virgin Bride. > > > Sorry to say, but such mails and people, make me > > > sick. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > -- In , " Ashna Singh " > > > <ashna_singh_2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > It makes me sad to read such things...and NO OFFENCE, but you > > > > should have been strong enough to avoid marrying her...becus > now not > > > > only have you ruined ur lover's life, but also ur new wife > and ur > > > > own life!!! I am sorry...i know this is not my > business....but wot > > > > is wrong with you people...falling in love, yet not being > able to > > > > fight for that love. In listening to ur parents, you've > > > > married...did you not think abt the fact that you could not > possibly > > > > give this wife of urs a fair chance at love, something that a > > > > marriage entails, since ur in love with another???? > > > > Nonsense!! Utter nonsense! Now you wanna father a child, that > too > > > > becus ur parents want it....MY GOODNESS! Ur obviously afraid > of ur > > > > parents, and dear, JO PYAAR KARTE HAIN, WOH DARTE > NAHIN....JOH DARTE > > > > HAIN, WOH PYAAR KARTE NAHIN!!! Grow a backbone, PLEASEE!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ganesh b <gvb1974@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > my details are > > > > > > > > > > i m married with a girl of my parent choice just few > > > > > days before. she is a girl of my parents chice. > > > > > actually i was in love with another. sir this girl is > > > > > not as per my desire. but my parents and all family > > > > > members forced me to do.but i m unable to set > > > > > relations with her. sir how will be my married life. > > > > > whether i will father a child. as i m not able to live > > > > > with her so. how to solve this problem . i am unable > > > > > to set relationship with her. as i am already involved > > > > > with another. but due to my parents force i married to > > > > > this girl. sir i m afraid if i wil do unjustice to > > > > > this girl also. but i cant help. sir how to solve this > > > > > prob and when i will become father of a child as my > > > > > parents are greatly waitng for my child. > > > > > > > > > > Sir kya main mere parents ka sapna pura kar sakunga. i > > > > > find it very difficult. i m going through very > > > > > critical perid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i can't live with that girl we are facing clashes. > > > > > sir i want to take divorce. > > > > > > > > > > if divorce is possible. > > > > > we are not having any physical relationship > > > > > sir is there second marriage so that i can father a > > > > > child > > > > > sir is it possible to marry with my beloved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dob - 31/8/1974 > > > > > time - 6.35 am > > > > > latitude,longitude - 21 10 n 75 34 > > > > > > > > > > place - house was in nashirabad a village but hospital > > > > > was in jalgaon near bhusawal > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow > you > > > > to download CHAT? > > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. > Find out more at the > > > Mail Championships. 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