Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Dear friend, Irrespective of the houses they occupy saturn + mars may destabilise that rasi/ house if closely conjunct within 5 degree. Mars + Saturn may cause problem related joint pain in 10th house/ capricorn, teeth related problem in 2nd house /taurus, digestion related problems in 6th house/virgo , feet related problem in 12th house/pisces, private organ related health problem in 8th house/scorpio. Similar way you can determine all the problems on the basis of houses/ rasi they occupy. Please note that Saturn and Mars has no common friend. So the rasi lord would be enemy of at least one of them. So we have to see who is becoming stronger and who is getting weaker. Important thing to note is the nature of sign...firey, earthly, watery, airy etc. mars is firey planet strong in firely and earthy signs. saturn is stronger in airy and earthy signs. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy, (Consultancy out of group is not free) 09811971190 , " microdharam2 " <microdharma wrote: > > Respected Tripathi Ji, > > Thanks for clarifying. > It means that there is nothing special with mangal-shani drishti yuti. it is as usual as other planets drishtis. the only thing is that these two planets are most cruel than others. > > With regards > > Dharmendra > > > > > > , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > There would be 3 set of different results. > > > > Mangal and Shani > > > > cooperating together to promote the affairs of a particular house > > > > > > cooperating together to destory- > > > > not cooperating with each other- and acting independently on the matters of a house. > > > > > > > > Orbs of influence is same in drishti , yuti or yog in all cases. > > > > > > Rasi shows- material resources > > Navamsa shows- the talents > > > > and > > > > constellation of the planet shows the > > > > willpower and underlying emotions influencing > > > > the direction and focus of > > > > usage of the material resources- and mental/intellectual > > resources (talent) > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > > 09811971190 > > > > , " microdharam2 " <microdharma@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Guru jan, > > > > > > It is a common belief that if mangal and shani aspect a bhava together, then it will destroy that bhava completely. > > > > > > I have two serious doubts regarding this. > > > > > > 1. What if both of these planets are beneficial to a particular bhava individually, and aspecting that bhava. for example in a Vrischika lagna kundali if Mangal is in the lagna, and Shani in 10 th house, then these two planets aspect together the 4 th and 7 th bhava. > > > Mangal is the lagna lord and karak for 4th house therefore it's individual aspect is beneficial for the 4 th bhava, on the other hand Shani is the lord of 4 th bhava therefore it's aspect is also beneficial for the 4 th bhava. Scenario is different for the 7 th bhava. > > > Now in this case what will be the effect of drishti yuti of Mangal-Shani, and whether there will be any difference in the effects for 4th and 7 th house in destructive effects? > > > > > > > > > 2. In previous posts Tripathi Ji told that any yog will be effective only when the degree of difference in the yogkaraka planets is less than 12. whether it is true for the Drishti yuti also. > > > If both of these planets are at 15 degree in there respected rashis then the destruction is maximum. and if shani is at about half degree in Leo and Mangal at 29 degree in Scorpio then there will be minimum effect of drishti yuti, and planets will benefit the fourth house with there individual benefic aspects. and if the degrees are in between these two extremes, the effects will be adjusted accordingly. > > > Whether this understanding of mine is correct? > > > > > > Kindly clarify my doubts on this aspect. > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > Dharmendra Sharma > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Dear Tripathy ji,//Saturn and Mars has no common friend. So the rasi lord would be enemy of at least one of them.//A small difference of opinion here, if you don't mind,Saturn-mars yuti is good in capricorn being saturn's own sign and mar's exaltation. No planet is inimical to Jupiter, and jupiter is not inimical to either sat or mars. So this yuti behaves rather well in Jupiter's signs.RegardsNeelam 2009/6/18 Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay Dear friend, Irrespective of the houses they occupy saturn + mars may destabilise that rasi/ house if closely conjunct within 5 degree. Mars + Saturn may cause problem related joint pain in 10th house/ capricorn, teeth related problem in 2nd house /taurus, digestion related problems in 6th house/virgo , feet related problem in 12th house/pisces, private organ related health problem in 8th house/scorpio. Similar way you can determine all the problems on the basis of houses/ rasi they occupy. Please note that Saturn and Mars has no common friend. So the rasi lord would be enemy of at least one of them. So we have to see who is becoming stronger and who is getting weaker. Important thing to note is the nature of sign...firey, earthly, watery, airy etc. mars is firey planet strong in firely and earthy signs. saturn is stronger in airy and earthy signs. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy, (Consultancy out of group is not free) 09811971190 , " microdharam2 " <microdharma wrote: > > Respected Tripathi Ji, > > Thanks for clarifying. > It means that there is nothing special with mangal-shani drishti yuti. it is as usual as other planets drishtis. the only thing is that these two planets are most cruel than others. > > With regards > > Dharmendra > > > > > > , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > There would be 3 set of different results. > > > > Mangal and Shani > > > > cooperating together to promote the affairs of a particular house > > > > > > cooperating together to destory- > > > > not cooperating with each other- and acting independently on the matters of a house. > > > > > > > > Orbs of influence is same in drishti , yuti or yog in all cases. > > > > > > Rasi shows- material resources > > Navamsa shows- the talents > > > > and > > > > constellation of the planet shows the > > > > willpower and underlying emotions influencing > > > > the direction and focus of > > > > usage of the material resources- and mental/intellectual > > resources (talent) > > > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > > > > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > > 09811971190 > > > > , " microdharam2 " <microdharma@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Guru jan, > > > > > > It is a common belief that if mangal and shani aspect a bhava together, then it will destroy that bhava completely. > > > > > > I have two serious doubts regarding this. > > > > > > 1. What if both of these planets are beneficial to a particular bhava individually, and aspecting that bhava. for example in a Vrischika lagna kundali if Mangal is in the lagna, and Shani in 10 th house, then these two planets aspect together the 4 th and 7 th bhava. > > > Mangal is the lagna lord and karak for 4th house therefore it's individual aspect is beneficial for the 4 th bhava, on the other hand Shani is the lord of 4 th bhava therefore it's aspect is also beneficial for the 4 th bhava. Scenario is different for the 7 th bhava. > > > Now in this case what will be the effect of drishti yuti of Mangal-Shani, and whether there will be any difference in the effects for 4th and 7 th house in destructive effects? > > > > > > > > > 2. In previous posts Tripathi Ji told that any yog will be effective only when the degree of difference in the yogkaraka planets is less than 12. whether it is true for the Drishti yuti also. > > > If both of these planets are at 15 degree in there respected rashis then the destruction is maximum. and if shani is at about half degree in Leo and Mangal at 29 degree in Scorpio then there will be minimum effect of drishti yuti, and planets will benefit the fourth house with there individual benefic aspects. and if the degrees are in between these two extremes, the effects will be adjusted accordingly. > > > Whether this understanding of mine is correct? > > > > > > Kindly clarify my doubts on this aspect. > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > Dharmendra Sharma > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Dear Neelam Ji, Tripathy Ji, I learn so much from you both, thank you. Can I make one observation/question? For Aquarius Lagna, Sa-Ma yuti in Capricon can create problems in Career, can it not? I have seen this happen and I am wondering if it is because of two factors: 1. Mars' 10th lordship for Aquarius Lagna being in the 12th. 2. Exalted 3rd lord Mars being 6th from the 10th causes obstacles in career. Unfortunately I dont have that particular chart with me but I initially thought this combo should improve chances of career in a foreign country, but did not turn out that way for the person. Regards, -Manoj neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:38:16 AMRe: Re: Mangal-Shani : Drishti Yuti- special Dear Tripathy ji,//Saturn and Mars has no common friend.So the rasi lord would be enemy of at least one of them.//A small difference of opinion here, if you don't mind,Saturn-mars yuti is good in capricorn being saturn's own sign and mar's exaltation.No planet is inimical to Jupiter, and jupiter is not inimical to either sat or mars. So this yuti behaves rather well in Jupiter's signs.RegardsNeelam 2009/6/18 Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunj ay > Dear friend,Irrespective of the houses they occupy saturn + marsmay destabilise that rasi/ house if closely conjunct within 5 degree.Mars + Saturn may cause problem related joint pain in 10th house/ capricorn,teeth related problem in 2nd house /taurus,digestion related problems in 6th house/virgo ,feet related problem in 12th house/pisces,private organ related health problem in 8th house/scorpio.Similar way you can determine all the problems on thebasis of houses/ rasi they occupy.Please note thatSaturn and Mars has no common friend.So the rasi lord would be enemy of at least one of them.So we have to see who is becoming stronger and who is getting weaker.Important thing to note is the nature of sign...firey, earthly, watery, airy etc.mars is firey planet strong in firely and earthy signs.saturn is stronger in airy and earthy signs.With regards and best wishes,Mrutyunjay Tripathy,(Consultancy out of group is not free)09811971190, "microdharam2" <microdharma@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Tripathi Ji,> > Thanks for clarifying.> It means that there is nothing special with mangal-shani drishti yuti. it is as usual as other planets drishtis. the only thing is that these two planets are most cruel than others.> > With regards> > Dharmendra> > > > > > , "Mrutyunjay Tripathy" <astrologer_mrutyunj ay@> wrote:> >> > Dear friend,> > > > > > There would be 3 set of different results.> > > > Mangal and Shani> > > > cooperating together to promote the affairs of a particular house> > > > > > cooperating together to destory-> > > > not cooperating with each other- and acting independently on the matters of a house.> > > > > > > > Orbs of influence is same in drishti , yuti or yog in all cases.> > > > > > Rasi shows- material resources> > Navamsa shows- the talents> > > > and > > > > constellation of the planet shows the > > > > willpower and underlying emotions influencing> > > > the direction and focus of> > > > usage of the material resources- and mental/intellectual> > resources (talent)> > > > > > With regards and best wishes,> > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy> > > > (Consultancy out of group is not free)> > 09811971190> > > > , "microdharam2" <microdharma@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Guru jan,> > > > > > It is a common belief that if mangal and shani aspect a bhava together, then it will destroy that bhava completely.> > > > > > I have two serious doubts regarding this.> > > > > > 1. What if both of these planets are beneficial to a particular bhava individually, and aspecting that bhava. for example in a Vrischika lagna kundali if Mangal is in the lagna, and Shani in 10 th house, then these two planets aspect together the 4 th and 7 th bhava.> > > Mangal is the lagna lord and karak for 4th house therefore it's individual aspect is beneficial for the 4 th bhava, on the other hand Shani is the lord of 4 th bhava therefore it's aspect is also beneficial for the 4 th bhava. Scenario is different for the 7 th bhava.> > > Now in this case what will be the effect of drishti yuti of Mangal-Shani, and whether there will be any difference in the effects for 4th and 7 th house in destructive effects?> > > > > > > > > 2. In previous posts Tripathi Ji told that any yog will be effective only when the degree of difference in the yogkaraka planets is less than 12. whether it is true for the Drishti yuti also.> > > If both of these planets are at 15 degree in there respected rashis then the destruction is maximum. and if shani is at about half degree in Leo and Mangal at 29 degree in Scorpio then there will be minimum effect of drishti yuti, and planets will benefit the fourth house with there individual benefic aspects. and if the degrees are in between these two extremes, the effects will be adjusted accordingly.> > > Whether this understanding of mine is correct?> > > > > > Kindly clarify my doubts on this aspect.> > > > > > Thanking you> > > > > > Dharmendra Sharma> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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