Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise diagnosed as having any serious medical problem by doctors. Sridhar --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi <bhamarome wrote: manjunath someshi <bhamarome (unknown) Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM Name: Bharati DOB: 10.02.1973 Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka Time: 10.45 PM Â Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years. She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and unwilling to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters and has become non co-operative. What is wrong with her? Please advise some solution. Thanking you very much. Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Dear Sridhar ji, I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what she is now. She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological reasoning presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. regards, Bhaskar. , Sridhar Iyer <rangapura wrote: > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise diagnosed as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > Sridhar > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome wrote: > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome > (unknown) > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > Name: Bharati > DOB: 10.02.1973 > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > Time: 10.45 PM > Â > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years. She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and unwilling to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters and has become non co-operative. > What is wrong with her? > Please advise some solution. > Thanking you very much. > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I have said in the database that I am a herbal curer apart from being an astrologer. I was giving the advice as I have noticed the good effects of garlic and onions in my own system and other's bodies/systems. I had given the advice purely on the medical angle and not based on astrology. Sridhar--- On Wed, 27/5/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re:(unknown) Date: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 11:37 AM Dear Sridhar ji,I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots ofgreeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen insight in near future. She can only make her health better than what sheis now.She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done.I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahvesuggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological reasoningpresented to the board here, after which I shall present mines.regards,Bhaskar., Sridhar Iyer <rangapura@. ..>wrote:>> Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with otherfood (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen willsee some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to ninemonths, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise diagnosedas having any serious medical problem by doctors.> Sridhar>> --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@.. . wrote:>>> manjunath someshi bhamarome@.. .> (unknown)> > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM>>> Name: Bharati> DOB: 10.02.1973> Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka> Time: 10.45 PM> Â> Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years.She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and unwillingto do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and otherswords. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters andhas become non co-operative.> What is wrong with her?> Please advise some solution.> Thanking you very much.>>> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with IndiaTravel Click here!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go tohttp://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or not. This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be a Learning process for all. It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken. regards, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what she > is now. > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological reasoning > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > wrote: > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise diagnosed > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > Sridhar > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > (unknown) > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > Time: 10.45 PM > > Â > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years. > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and unwilling > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters and > has become non co-operative. > > What is wrong with her? > > Please advise some solution. > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Namashkar, My name is ambuja. My husband D.O.B is 1/3/1951,born in Bangalore 7.30PM I already asked you about his job,when he started going for for job that time itself he is not having anythin permanently.1your or 6 months shetling always till now.Why like that now in his office they have given notice till this month afterthat what will happen.Please tell me why his ate is like that. Thank you. --- On Thu, 28/5/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re:(unknown) Thursday, 28 May, 2009, 12:21 PM I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or not. This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be a Learning process for all. It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken. regards, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what she > is now. > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological reasoning > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > wrote: > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise diagnosed > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > Sridhar > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > (unknown) > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > Time: 10.45 PM > > Â > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years. > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and unwilling > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters and > has become non co-operative. > > What is wrong with her? > > Please advise some solution. > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ > > > --- 1)Send your email at              2)This is the first, and the only Indian Astrology Group being honoured and felicitated by , at the Moderators Union 2008,Mumbai 3)View the write up on Jyotish Ganga by india group at http://www.ygroupsblog.in/blog/2009/03/19/jyotish-ganga-%e2%80%93-stars-and-dest\ iny/#comments 4)Learners are encouraged to ask and discuss astrological issues as we have experts to answer and quench their thirst of knowledge. 5)Experts are encouraged to share their views in the group and hold healthy discussion to help each other achieve a better understanding and help the learners advance in their journey. 6)Practitioners may come forward to help those who are in trouble and come here to seek our help. 7)The seekers! Those who connect with us because they are looking for an astrological solution to any problem they are facing in life, are welcome to post their query for our expert astrologers, who will try their best to answer. 8)Lastly,The posters must of course maintain the decorum of the forum and send clearly stated queries with their birth details as date, time and place of birth. JOIN NOW /join Regards, Owner Krishna Kumar Bagri (Bhaskar Jyotish - (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna) (Vedic,Sayana,Nirayana Astrologer, Palmist, Numerologer, Dowser and Vastu Consultant) Website - www.shrikrishnajyotish.com Founder -The Indian Astrologers Association, The Society of Indian Astrologers. email id- rajiventerprises email id- bhaskar_jyotish Cell No. 9323522663- 9324214149 Land – 91-22-24330886 Group Moderators: Sunil Nair Neelam Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji Name: Bharati DOB: 10.02.1973 Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka Time: 10.45 PM The chart casted as per the above birth dtls does have Kaal Saarpa Yog. In this case this KSY will give constant problems in her effort/energy level, marital relationship will be disturbed, back ache will always be their. One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead of healing will increase the effects. After Nov 2009 when rahu transits into her 3rd house, she will hv more problems in her marital life, constant back aches & also breakdown of nervous system is a strong possiblity. She already has depression attacks & it will increase when rahu/chandra dasha bhukti starts. HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies http://in./search?query=chandra-adityaastroremedies Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thursday, 28 May, 2009 12:21:55 PM Re:(unknown) I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whetherthe native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really ornot.This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be aLearning process for all.It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in mydefinition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken.regards,Bhaskar., "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>wrote:>>> Dear Sridhar ji,>> I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of> greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in> sight in near future. She can only make her health better than whatshe> is now.>> She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done.>> I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve> suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrologicalreasoning> presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>> , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@> wrote:> >> > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other> food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will> see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine> months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwisediagnosed> as having any serious medical problem by doctors.> > Sridhar> >> > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote:> >> >> > manjunath someshi bhamarome@> > (unknown)> > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM> >> >> > Name: Bharati> > DOB: 10.02.1973> > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka> > Time: 10.45 PM> > Â> > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years.> She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull andunwilling> to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others> words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any mattersand> has become non co-operative.> > What is wrong with her?> > Please advise some solution.> > Thanking you very much.> >> >> > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India> Travel Click here!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/> >> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Bhaskarji, With due respect, instead of delving into the cross-checking whether the native has KSY or not, why not check whether we are casting the correct chart or not? The Lagna changes in 2-3 mins time or may be lesser. (Lagna rising is Tula at zero degrees & 39 minutes!!!) Thank you, Gaurav. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether > the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or > not. > > This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be a > Learning process for all. > > It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my > definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of > > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in > > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what > she > > is now. > > > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological > reasoning > > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other > > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will > > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise > diagnosed > > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > > Sridhar > > > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > > (unknown) > > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > > Time: 10.45 PM > > > Â > > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years. > > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and > unwilling > > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others > > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters > and > > has become non co-operative. > > > What is wrong with her? > > > Please advise some solution. > > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > India > > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > > http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Nathani ji, We both have already accepted that this Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga, but some of my friends say offline, that its not there. I just need to confirm this from the other Learned astrologers. //One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead of healing will increase the effects. // I agree that more than necessary consumption of Garlic for this native may aggravate the symptons due to which the husband of this native is suffering already. regards, Bhaskar. , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > Name: Bharati >  DOB: 10.02.1973 >  Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka >  Time: 10.45 PM > > The chart casted as per the above birth dtls does have Kaal Saarpa Yog. > > In this case this KSY will give constant problems in her effort/energy level, marital relationship will be disturbed, back ache  will always be their. > > One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead of healing will increase the effects. >  > After Nov 2009 when rahu transits into her 3rd house, she will hv more problems in her marital life, constant back aches & also breakdown of nervous system is a strong possiblity. She already has depression attacks & it will increase when rahu/chandra dasha bhukti starts. > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 > Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies://in./search?query=chand\ ra-adityaastroremedies >  >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Thursday, 28 May, 2009 12:21:55 PM > Re:(unknown) I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether > the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or > not. > > This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be a > Learning process for all. > > It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my > definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of > > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in > > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what > she > > is now. > > > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological > reasoning > > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other > > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will > > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise > diagnosed > > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > > Sridhar > > > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > > (unknown) > > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > > Time: 10.45 PM > > > Â > > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years. > > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and > unwilling > > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others > > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters > and > > has become non co-operative. > > > What is wrong with her? > > > Please advise some solution. > > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > India > > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > > http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > > > > >  > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji: Barati's chart is void of Kalasarpa Yoga. The rule for 'Kala Sarpa Yoga' (while there is NO mension of this in ancient sciptures) as deducted by modern astrologers is: "This yoga occurs when all Planets are contained within the Nodul axis, the situation where by the Planets cannot exceed an arc of 180 Degrees." Another interpretation is that "...if Rahu is in the first six houses from the ascendant (here it is Thula) and all Planets are between Rahu and Ketu and, no planet is located in the same sign of Rahu. this yoga is said to occur"- "this yoga considerably destroys the good indications in a horoscope, while the house where Rahu is located suffers most." In the given chart of Sm. Barati : Rahu is in the first six houses of Lagna. Mars is located with Rahu in Dhanush. Rahu is in 5 Degrees and Rahu is in 21 Degrees and this does not satisfy the conditions that 'all Planets to be housed within 180 Degrees of Rahu and Ketu orbit' As such I believe this chart is not eclipsed with 'Kala Sarpa Yoga' conditions. Sun Capricorn 28 ° 21 ' 36 '' Dhanishtha (2) Mars Saturn Mercury Moon Taurus 00 ° 05 ' 04 '' Kruttika (2) Sun Rahu Saturn Mars Sagittarius 05 ° 27 ' 05 '' Mula (2) Ketu Mars Venus Mercury Aquarius 08 ° 09 ' 08 '' Shatataraka (1) Rahu Rahu Venus Jupiter Capricorn 03 ° 44 ' 37 '' Uttarshadha (3) Sun Saturn Ketu Venus Capricorn 13 ° 56 ' 34 '' Shravana (2) Moon Jupiter Jupiter Saturn R Taurus 20 ° 09 ' 14 '' Rohini (4) Moon Ketu Jupiter Rahu Sagittarius 21 ° 36 ' 37 '' Purvashadha (3) Venus Jupiter Mars Ketu Gemini 21 ° 36 ' 37 '' Punarvasu (1) Jupiter Jupiter Rahu Uranus R Virgo 29 ° 28 ' 43 '' Chitra (2) Mars Saturn Rahu Neptune Scorpio 13 ° 44 ' 53 '' Anuradha (4) Saturn Rahu Saturn Pluto R Virgo 10 ° 35 ' 49 '' Hasta (1) Moon Moon Saturn A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, (consultation fees payable for direct detailed studies) 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, Cherry Willingham, 0044+01522+595996, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom. Pl. contact 'kountinya29' "........When there is uncertainty, He gave us hope; When there was indecision,He gave us clarity...." Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:51:55 AM Re:(unknown) I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whetherthe native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really ornot.This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be aLearning process for all.It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in mydefinition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken.regards,Bhaskar., "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>wrote:>>> Dear Sridhar ji,>> I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of> greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in> sight in near future. She can only make her health better than whatshe> is now.>> She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done.>> I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve> suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrologicalreasoning> presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>> , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@> wrote:> >> > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other> food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will> see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine> months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwisediagnosed> as having any serious medical problem by doctors.> > Sridhar> >> > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote:> >> >> > manjunath someshi bhamarome@> > (unknown)> > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM> >> >> > Name: Bharati> > DOB: 10.02.1973> > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka> > Time: 10.45 PM> > Â> > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years.> She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull andunwilling> to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others> words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any mattersand> has become non co-operative.> > What is wrong with her?> > Please advise some solution.> > Thanking you very much.> >> >> > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India> Travel Click here!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Haresh ji, Bhaskar ji, I would believe that KSY is not there in the chart since Mars is out of the ambit of Rahu-ketu arc. This chart has a descending position of Rahu wrt to planets as it is moving towards scorpio, away from the series of planets posited from Taurus to capricorn. It is ketu which ascends with the planets and could’ve formed the KSY if mars were to get more than 22 degrees. I submit this as my humble opinion. I shall be glad to rectify this, if we agree on a different approach. RegardsNeelam 2009/5/28 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear Nathani ji, We both have already accepted that this Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga, but some of my friends say offline, that its not there. I just need to confirm this from the other Learned astrologers. //One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead of healing will increase the effects. // I agree that more than necessary consumption of Garlic for this native may aggravate the symptons due to which the husband of this native is suffering already. regards, Bhaskar. , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > Name: Bharati >  DOB: 10.02.1973 >  Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka >  Time: 10.45 PM > > The chart casted as per the above birth dtls does have Kaal Saarpa Yog. > > In this case this KSY will give constant problems in her effort/energy level, marital relationship will be disturbed, back ache  will always be their. > > One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead of healing will increase the effects. >  > After Nov 2009 when rahu transits into her 3rd house, she will hv more problems in her marital life, constant back aches & also breakdown of nervous system is a strong possiblity. She already has depression attacks & it will increase when rahu/chandra dasha bhukti starts. > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 > Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies://in./search?query=chand\ ra-adityaastroremedies >  >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Thursday, 28 May, 2009 12:21:55 PM > Re:(unknown) I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether > the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or > not. > > This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be a > Learning process for all. > > It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my > definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of > > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in > > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what > she > > is now. > > > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological > reasoning > > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other > > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will > > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise > diagnosed > > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > > Sridhar > > > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > > (unknown) > > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > > Time: 10.45 PM > > > Â > > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years. > > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and > unwilling > > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others > > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters > and > > has become non co-operative. > > > What is wrong with her? > > > Please advise some solution. > > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > India > > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > > http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > > > > >  > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Madam , Now you are influencing the other astrologers who may sing your tune. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Haresh ji, Bhaskar ji, > > I would believe that KSY is not there in the chart since Mars is out of the > ambit of Rahu-ketu arc. > > This chart has a descending position of Rahu wrt to planets as it is moving > towards scorpio, away from the series of planets posited from Taurus to > capricorn. > > It is ketu which ascends with the planets and could've formed the KSY if > mars were to get more than 22 degrees. > > I submit this as my humble opinion. I shall be glad to rectify this, if we > agree on a different approach. > > Regards > Neelam > > > > 2009/5/28 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > > > > > Dear Nathani ji, > > > > We both have already accepted that this Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga, but > > some of my friends say offline, that its not there. I just need to > > confirm this from the other Learned astrologers. > > > > //One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has > > > > stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlic > > agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead of > > healing will increase the effects. // > > > > I agree that more than necessary consumption of Garlic for this native > > may aggravate the symptons due to which the husband of this native is > > suffering already. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > <%40>, > > " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > > haresh1405@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > > Name: Bharati > > >  DOB: 10.02.1973 > > >  Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > >  Time: 10.45 PM > > > > > > The chart casted as per the above birth dtls does have Kaal > > Saarpa Yog. > > > > > > In this case this KSY will give constant problems in her effort/energy > > level, marital relationship will be disturbed, back ache  will > > always be their. > > > > > > One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has > > stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, > > garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead > > of healing will increase the effects. > > >  > > > After Nov 2009 when rahu transits into her 3rd house, she will hv more > > problems in her marital life, constant back aches & also breakdown of > > nervous system is a strong possiblity. She already has depression > > attacks & it will increase when rahu/chandra dasha bhukti starts. > > > > > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 > > > > > Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies@://in./search?query=chand\ > > ra-adityaastroremedies > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > <%40> > > > Thursday, 28 May, 2009 12:21:55 PM > > > Re:(unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether > > > the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or > > > not. > > > > > > This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be > > a > > > Learning process for all. > > > > > > It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my > > > definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am > > mistaken. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots > > of > > > > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen > > in > > > > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what > > > she > > > > is now. > > > > > > > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > > > > > > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > > > > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological > > > reasoning > > > > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with > > other > > > > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen > > will > > > > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > > > > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise > > > diagnosed > > > > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > > > > (unknown) > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > > > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > > > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > > > > Time: 10.45 PM > > > > > Â > > > > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 > > years. > > > > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and > > > unwilling > > > > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and > > others > > > > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters > > > and > > > > has become non co-operative. > > > > > What is wrong with her? > > > > > Please advise some solution. > > > > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > > > India > > > > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > > > > http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India > > Travel http://in.travel./ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Gaurav ji, That was a smart observation from you, already noticed by me, because I just mentioned yesterday, that I check the power of the Lagna first whenever I take up the study of any chart. Yes, that was observed when I casted the chart. Which is why I went for rectification of the 5th SubLord for which the Query was put up - Good Health or Cure. I have already checked that, if you re-read my mail, the question pertaining the 5th house, and I have checked through the Ruling Planets (Time of Prashna also been presented to the Group) the 5th SubLord, which would not even now require few seconfds of rectification in the Birth time, as the SubLord is meant for minute divisions. By the way even now if you check with the Ruling Planets it will give you the Perfect Clue that Venus is her Lagna (Bombay Time of Judgement 13.31.24) The ascendant Nakshatra appears now in P.Phalguni owned by Venus. If the previous Lagna had to be taken it would have been Virgo Lorded by Mercury. Mercury is nowhere in the Ruling Planets currently. (This is a technique of Krishna Murthy Padhatay where in one may go uto 5-10 seconds also of Burth time rectification, if one is fortunate in understanding the language of the Ruling Planets at time of Judgement) regards, Bhaskar. , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Bhaskarji, > With due respect, instead of delving into the cross-checking whether the > native has KSY or not, why not check whether we are casting the correct > chart or not? > The Lagna changes in 2-3 mins time or may be lesser. (Lagna rising is > Tula at zero degrees & 39 minutes!!!) > Thank you, > Gaurav. > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether > > the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or > > not. > > > > This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be > a > > Learning process for all. > > > > It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my > > definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am > mistaken. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots > of > > > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen > in > > > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what > > she > > > is now. > > > > > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > > > > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > > > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological > > reasoning > > > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with > other > > > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen > will > > > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > > > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise > > diagnosed > > > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > > > (unknown) > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > > > Time: 10.45 PM > > > > Â > > > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 > years. > > > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and > > unwilling > > > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and > others > > > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters > > and > > > has become non co-operative. > > > > What is wrong with her? > > > > Please advise some solution. > > > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > > India > > > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Gaurav ji,The lagna degrees were noticed but the problem was fairly well justified by Tula. Thanks for your observation and comments.But the poster has not so far responded after so much of footage wasted on him! RegardsNeelam2009/5/28 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Madam , Now you are influencing the other astrologers who may sing your tune. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Haresh ji, Bhaskar ji, > > I would believe that KSY is not there in the chart since Mars is out of the > ambit of Rahu-ketu arc. > > This chart has a descending position of Rahu wrt to planets as it is moving > towards scorpio, away from the series of planets posited from Taurus to > capricorn. > > It is ketu which ascends with the planets and could've formed the KSY if > mars were to get more than 22 degrees. > > I submit this as my humble opinion. I shall be glad to rectify this, if we > agree on a different approach. > > Regards > Neelam > > > > 2009/5/28 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > > > > > Dear Nathani ji, > > > > We both have already accepted that this Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga, but > > some of my friends say offline, that its not there. I just need to > > confirm this from the other Learned astrologers. > > > > //One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has > > > > stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlic > > agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead of > > healing will increase the effects. // > > > > I agree that more than necessary consumption of Garlic for this native > > may aggravate the symptons due to which the husband of this native is > > suffering already. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > <%40>, > > " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > > haresh1405@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > > Name: Bharati > > >  DOB: 10.02.1973 > > >  Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > >  Time: 10.45 PM > > > > > > The chart casted as per the above birth dtls does have Kaal > > Saarpa Yog. > > > > > > In this case this KSY will give constant problems in her effort/energy > > level, marital relationship will be disturbed, back ache  will > > always be their. > > > > > > One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has > > stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, > > garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead > > of healing will increase the effects. > > >  > > > After Nov 2009 when rahu transits into her 3rd house, she will hv more > > problems in her marital life, constant back aches & also breakdown of > > nervous system is a strong possiblity. She already has depression > > attacks & it will increase when rahu/chandra dasha bhukti starts. > > > > > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 > > > > > Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies@://in./search?query=chand\ > > ra-adityaastroremedies > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > <%40> > > > Thursday, 28 May, 2009 12:21:55 PM > > > Re:(unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether > > > the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or > > > not. > > > > > > This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be > > a > > > Learning process for all. > > > > > > It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my > > > definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am > > mistaken. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots > > of > > > > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen > > in > > > > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what > > > she > > > > is now. > > > > > > > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > > > > > > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > > > > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological > > > reasoning > > > > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with > > other > > > > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen > > will > > > > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > > > > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise > > > diagnosed > > > > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > > > > (unknown) > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > > > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > > > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > > > > Time: 10.45 PM > > > > > Â > > > > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 > > years. > > > > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and > > > unwilling > > > > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and > > others > > > > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters > > > and > > > > has become non co-operative. > > > > > What is wrong with her? > > > > > Please advise some solution. > > > > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > > > India > > > > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > > > > http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India > > Travel http://in.travel./ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji: Barati's chart is void of Kalasarpa Yoga. The rule for 'Kala Sarpa Yoga' (while there is NO mension of this in ancient sciptures) as deducted by modern astrologers is: "This yoga occurs when all Planets are contained within the Nodul axis, the situation where by the Planets cannot exceed an arc of 180 Degrees." Another interpretation is that "...if Rahu is in the first six houses from the ascendant (here it is Thula) and all Planets are between Rahu and Ketu and, no planet is located in the same sign of Rahu. this yoga is said to occur"- "this yoga considerably destroys the good indications in a horoscope, while the house where Rahu is located suffers most." In the given chart of Sm. Barati : Rahu is in the first six houses of Lagna. Mars is located with Rahu in Dhanush. Rahu is in 5 Degrees and Rahu is in 21 Degrees and this does not satisfy the conditions that 'all Planets to be housed within 180 Degrees of Rahu and Ketu orbit' As such I believe this chart is not eclipsed with 'Kala Sarpa Yoga' conditions. Sun Capricorn 28 ° 21 ' 36 '' Dhanishtha (2) Mars Saturn Mercury Moon Taurus 00 ° 05 ' 04 '' Kruttika (2) Sun Rahu Saturn Mars Sagittarius 05 ° 27 ' 05 '' Mula (2) Ketu Mars Venus Mercury Aquarius 08 ° 09 ' 08 '' Shatataraka (1) Rahu Rahu Venus Jupiter Capricorn 03 ° 44 ' 37 '' Uttarshadha (3) Sun Saturn Ketu Venus Capricorn 13 ° 56 ' 34 '' Shravana (2) Moon Jupiter Jupiter Saturn R Taurus 20 ° 09 ' 14 '' Rohini (4) Moon Ketu Jupiter Rahu Sagittarius 21 ° 36 ' 37 '' Purvashadha (3) Venus Jupiter Mars Ketu Gemini 21 ° 36 ' 37 '' Punarvasu (1) Jupiter Jupiter Rahu Uranus R Virgo 29 ° 28 ' 43 '' Chitra (2) Mars Saturn Rahu Neptune Scorpio 13 ° 44 ' 53 '' Anuradha (4) Saturn Rahu Saturn Pluto R Virgo 10 ° 35 ' 49 '' Hasta (1) Moon Moon Saturn A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, (consultation fees payable for direct detailed studies) 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, Cherry Willingham, 0044+01522+595996, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom. Pl. contact 'kountinya29' "........When there is uncertainty, He gave us hope; When there was indecision,He gave us clarity...." Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:42:57 AM Re:(unknown) Dear Nathani ji,We both have already accepted that this Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga, butsome of my friends say offline, that its not there. I just need toconfirm this from the other Learned astrologers.//One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native hasstated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlicagitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead ofhealing will increase the effects. //I agree that more than necessary consumption of Garlic for this nativemay aggravate the symptons due to which the husband of this native issuffering already.regards,Bhaskar., "Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani"<haresh1405@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji> Name: Bharati>  DOB: 10.02.1973>  Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka>  Time: 10.45 PM>> The chart casted as per the above birth dtls does have KaalÂSaarpa Yog.>> In this case this KSY will give constant problems in her effort/energylevel, marital relationship will be disturbed, back ache  willalways be their.>> One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native hasstated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common,garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic insteadof healing will increase the effects.> Â> After Nov 2009 when rahu transits into her 3rd house, she will hv moreproblems in her marital life, constant back aches & also breakdown ofnervous system is a strong possiblity. She already has depressionattacks & it will increase when rahu/chandra dasha bhukti starts.>> HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103>Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ ...://in. groups.. com/search? query=chand\ra-adityaastroremed ies> Â> Â>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Thursday, 28 May, 2009 12:21:55 PM> Re:(unknown)>>>>>>> I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether> the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or> not.>> This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would bea> Learning process for all.>> It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my> definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I ammistaken.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>> , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sridhar ji,> >> > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lotsof> > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seenin> > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what> she> > is now.> >> > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done.> >> > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve> > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological> reasoning> > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@> > wrote:> > >> > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked withother> > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimenwill> > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine> > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise> diagnosed> > as having any serious medical problem by doctors.> > > Sridhar> > >> > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@> > > (unknown)> > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM> > >> > >> > > Name: Bharati> > > DOB: 10.02.1973> > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka> > > Time: 10.45 PM> > > Â> > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3years.> > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and> unwilling> > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my andothers> > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters> and> > has become non co-operative.> > > What is wrong with her?> > > Please advise some solution.> > > Thanking you very much.> > >> > >> > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > India> > Travel Click here!> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> > http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/> > >> >>>> Â>>> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with IndiaTravel http://in.travel. /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Neelamji The node & degree of rahu is higher than that of mangal. Yes u may be rite in pointing out as rahu goes reverse, but the symtoms what the native has mentioned are all pertaining to KSY. Rahu is in parakram bhav, whereas presence of mangal increases ones energy level, but the native also says energy level is very low, this is due to KSY. Even mangal is also not able to deliver its results. HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies http://in./search?query=chandra-adityaastroremedies neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Thursday, 28 May, 2009 1:26:29 PMRe: Re:(unknown) Dear Haresh ji, Bhaskar ji, I would believe that KSY is not there in the chart since Mars is out of the ambit of Rahu-ketu arc. This chart has a descending position of Rahu wrt to planets as it is moving towards scorpio, away from the series of planets posited from Taurus to capricorn. It is ketu which ascends with the planets and could’ve formed the KSY if mars were to get more than 22 degrees. I submit this as my humble opinion. I shall be glad to rectify this, if we agree on a different approach. RegardsNeelam 2009/5/28 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear Nathani ji,We both have already accepted that this Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga, butsome of my friends say offline, that its not there. I just need toconfirm this from the other Learned astrologers.//One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native has stated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlicagitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic instead ofhealing will increase the effects. //I agree that more than necessary consumption of Garlic for this nativemay aggravate the symptons due to which the husband of this native issuffering already.regards,Bhaskar., "Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani" <haresh1405@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji> Name: Bharati>  DOB: 10.02.1973>  Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka>  Time: 10.45 PM>> The chart casted as per the above birth dtls does have Kaal Saarpa Yog.>> In this case this KSY will give constant problems in her effort/energylevel, marital relationship will be disturbed, back ache  will always be their.>> One astrologer has recommended garlic remedy. When the native hasstated very clearly that short tempered, wierd nature is common, garlic agitates the mind & when already mind is disturbed garlic insteadof healing will increase the effects.>  > After Nov 2009 when rahu transits into her 3rd house, she will hv moreproblems in her marital life, constant back aches & also breakdown ofnervous system is a strong possiblity. She already has depressionattacks & it will increase when rahu/chandra dasha bhukti starts.>> HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103>Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ ...://in.groups.. com/search? query=chand\ra-adityaastroremed ies> Â> Â>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > Thursday, 28 May, 2009 12:21:55 PM> Re:(unknown)>>>>>>> I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether> the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or> not.>> This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would bea> Learning process for all.>> It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my> definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I ammistaken.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>> , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sridhar ji,> >> > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lotsof> > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seenin> > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what> she> > is now.> >> > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done.> >> > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve> > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological> reasoning> > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@> > wrote:> > >> > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked withother> > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimenwill> > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine> > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise> diagnosed> > as having any serious medical problem by doctors.> > > Sridhar> > >> > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@> > > (unknown)> > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM> > >> > >> > > Name: Bharati> > > DOB: 10.02.1973> > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka> > > Time: 10.45 PM> > > Â > > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3years.> > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and> unwilling> > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my andothers> > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters> and> > has become non co-operative.> > > What is wrong with her?> > > Please advise some solution.> > > Thanking you very much.> > >> > >> > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > India> > Travel Click here!> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> > http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/> > >> >>>> Â>>> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with IndiaTravel http://in.travel. /> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Haresh ji and all,KSY, as we know, is one of the least understood and most misunderstood yogas of modern astrology. It is more like a special yoga, or a combination in a nativity, but has been rendered quite dreadful due to unnecessary fanning by vested interests. I am not denying KSY as a YOGA, and agree that it will give certain specific results, but one has to check the chart in its totality. Just like other yogas, which do not or cannot produce results, or give extraordinary results, fructification of KSY also is appears to be conditional. We have umpteen examples of both types of cases. Just because native is showing some KSY-like results, we cannot say she has KSY. We have very little information about her to draw that conclusion. Rahu and mars are in parakram bhav, but their dispositor is debilitated and afflicts lagna lord venus. Jupiter is also 6L of diseases and it might’ve resulted in some disorder which can make the native, not inherently, but temporarily weak. Weakness of moon is another pointer in that direction. In our present context, we first have to confirm and agree on the eligibility of this placement to form the KSY. Since we have one planet outside the arc, it might negate the yoga, some call it Bhang yoga. There is also a point that planets do not fall from rahu to ketu, so according to some views, this itself is a disqualification and make it a Kal Amrit Yoga instead. (please correct me if I am wrong, as I am not too sure of this). Since classics do not mention this yoga, we depend on BV Raman’s views on this and according to the rules are:All planets must be “hemmed in” between Rahu and Ketu, as we read clockwise in the southern-style radix chart. Rahu must occupy one of the first six houses from the lagna, i.e., bhava 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 and if even one planet is outside the " clutches " of Rahu-Ketu - if even one planet is not hemmed in - Kala-Sarpa yoga does not apply. As per above points, this chart does not qualify for KSY according to these rules. Members are free not to to what I have said. I request other learned astrologers to share their views. Pathi ji has already denied its existence. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Bhaskerji, Shri. Manik Chand Jain has written a book on Rahu and Ketu. Some of the learned astrolgers in Kerala has told me that KSY is not applicable to individual charts, but may have some significance when it comes to Mundane astrlogy. Despite this, I had made a detailed search for books on Rahu and Ketu and located this book from Bangalore . Shri Jain in his book mentions that this yoga is not mentioned in any ancient texts. He says"Lately some of the learned astrologers have come forward to evolve apattern for for assessing the evil effects of this yoga" . He goes on to summarise that following conclusionshave been arrived at after research and experiments for KSY to be applicable:- 1. Planets should be hemmed in between Rahu and Ketu and not between Ketu and Rahu. 2. From the Lagna, Rahu should be in the first six houses. 3. KSY is not applicable if any one planet is conjunct Rahu or Ketu in the rasi or if one planet is outside Rahu - Ketu axis. He goes on to say that with the discovery of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, KSY is not easily available in charts. In the chart in question, Mars is with Rahu in Dhanus and hence I fully agree with the view of Neelamji that KSY is not applicable here. With warm regards, Col.Chandran --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re:(unknown) Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 6:51 AM I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whetherthe native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really ornot.This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be aLearning process for all.It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in mydefinition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken.regards,Bhaskar., "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>wrote:>>> Dear Sridhar ji,>> I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of> greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in> sight in near future. She can only make her health better than whatshe> is now.>> She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done.>> I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve> suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrologicalreasoning> presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>> , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@> wrote:> >> > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other> food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will> see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine> months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwisediagnosed> as having any serious medical problem by doctors.> > Sridhar> >> > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote:> >> >> > manjunath someshi bhamarome@> > (unknown)> > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM> >> >> > Name: Bharati> > DOB: 10.02.1973> > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka> > Time: 10.45 PM> > Â> > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years.> She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull andunwilling> to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others> words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any mattersand> has become non co-operative.> > What is wrong with her?> > Please advise some solution.> > Thanking you very much.> >> >> > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India> Travel Click here!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Colonel ji and Neelam ji, I am still not convinced. The book of Shri MC Jain I possess and was searching for about 40minutes in my collection, but couldnot find and terminated the search. I have another 3 Books on Kala Sarpa, but none of them mention the points suggested in your mails (Both of you). As far as degrees is concerned - of the another planet in the Rashi where Rahu or Ketu is placed, if the degrees of rahu or Ketu is more, then it certainly falls within the axis and not outside it, as far as I understood the KSY. This is the case even in this Chart under question. She is having the Vasuki KalaSarpa Yoga (or Shankhachud) in my view. She has degrees of Rahu more than Mars. so naturally Mars falls within the axis. The best way is to draw a line from the Degrees of Rahu and Ketu diagonally and then check. This will dispel all doubts about KSY whether one has or not. If one argues that there must be no planets in the signs of the Nodes, then does it mean that every KalaSarpa Yoga would consist of a chart with 7 Planets in 5 houses ? This is absurd . I want to give a write up on KSY but not on my agenda presently. There are 288 KSY Yogas in all. regards, Bhaskar. , skm chandran <colchandran wrote: > > Dear Bhaskerji, >  > Shri. Manik Chand Jain has written a book on Rahu and Ketu. Some of the learned astrolgers in Kerala has told me that KSY is not applicable to individual charts, but may have some significance when it comes to Mundane astrlogy. Despite this, I had made a detailed search for books on Rahu and Ketu and located this book from Bangalore . Shri Jain in his book  mentions that this yoga is not mentioned in any ancient texts. He says " Lately some of the learned astrologers have come forward to evolve apattern for for assessing the evil effects of this yoga " . He goes on to summarise that following conclusionshave been arrived at after research and experiments for KSY to be applicable:- > 1. Planets should be hemmed in between Rahu and Ketu and not between Ketu and Rahu. > 2. From the Lagna, Rahu should be in the first six houses. > 3. KSY is not applicable if any one planet is conjunct Rahu or Ketu in the rasi or if one planet is outside Rahu - Ketu axis. >  > He goes on to say that with the discovery of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, KSY is not easily available in charts. >  > In the chart in question, Mars is with Rahu in Dhanus and hence I fully agree with the view of Neelamji that KSY is not applicable here. >  > With warm regards, > Col.Chandran >  >  >  >  > --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re:(unknown) > > Thursday, May 28, 2009, 6:51 AM > > > I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whether > the native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really or > not. > > This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be a > Learning process for all. > > It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in my > definition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of > > greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in > > sight in near future. She can only make her health better than what > she > > is now. > > > > She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done. > > > > I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve > > suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrological > reasoning > > presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other > > food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will > > see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine > > months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwise > diagnosed > > as having any serious medical problem by doctors. > > > Sridhar > > > > > > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > manjunath someshi bhamarome@ > > > (unknown) > > > > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > > Name: Bharati > > > DOB: 10.02.1973 > > > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka > > > Time: 10.45 PM > > > Â > > > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years. > > She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull and > unwilling > > to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others > > words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any matters > and > > has become non co-operative. > > > What is wrong with her? > > > Please advise some solution. > > > Thanking you very much. > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with > India > > Travel Click here! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > > http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear All Learned Astrologers, Now I feel that this group is becoming more vibrant and full of knowledge as when two learned people discuss something a common man tends to gain in the bargain just by concentrating on their discussions. Thanks And Regards. Sudhanshu Pareek.--- On Thu, 28/5/09, skm chandran <colchandran wrote: skm chandran <colchandranRe: Re:(unknown) Date: Thursday, 28 May, 2009, 8:36 PM Dear Bhaskerji, Shri. Manik Chand Jain has written a book on Rahu and Ketu. Some of the learned astrolgers in Kerala has told me that KSY is not applicable to individual charts, but may have some significance when it comes to Mundane astrlogy. Despite this, I had made a detailed search for books on Rahu and Ketu and located this book from Bangalore . Shri Jain in his book mentions that this yoga is not mentioned in any ancient texts. He says"Lately some of the learned astrologers have come forward to evolve apattern for for assessing the evil effects of this yoga" . He goes on to summarise that following conclusionshave been arrived at after research and experiments for KSY to be applicable:- 1. Planets should be hemmed in between Rahu and Ketu and not between Ketu and Rahu. 2. From the Lagna, Rahu should be in the first six houses. 3. KSY is not applicable if any one planet is conjunct Rahu or Ketu in the rasi or if one planet is outside Rahu - Ketu axis. He goes on to say that with the discovery of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, KSY is not easily available in charts. In the chart in question, Mars is with Rahu in Dhanus and hence I fully agree with the view of Neelamji that KSY is not applicable here. With warm regards, Col.Chandran --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re:(unknown)Thursday, May 28, 2009, 6:51 AM I request all the Learned astrologers here on board, to check whetherthe native in the below mentioned Chart has Kala Sarpa Yoga really ornot.This is required for an better understanding of this Yoga and would be aLearning process for all.It seems and is gathered that probably I may be mistaken in mydefinition of Kala Sarpa Yoga, which I want to rectify if I am mistaken.regards,Bhaskar., "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>wrote:>>> Dear Sridhar ji,>> I feel she must eat a small bowl of raw Tulsi leaves daily and lots of> greeny vegetables to reduce her ill health. Total cure is not seen in> sight in near future. She can only make her health better than whatshe> is now.>> She must also get Pooja of kala Sarpa Dosha done.>> I shall tell you why I prefer the Tulsi leaves to what you ahve> suggested , if you please kindly let us have your astrologicalreasoning> presented to the board here, after which I shall present mines.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>> , Sridhar Iyer rangapura@> wrote:> >> > Make her eat good amount of garlic and onions well cooked with other> food (1kg onions and 200 gms garlic in a week). This food regimen will> see some improvement within the first week itself and in 6 to nine> months, she should be completely o.k. if she is not otherwisediagnosed> as having any serious medical problem by doctors.> > Sridhar> >> > --- On Wed, 27/5/09, manjunath someshi bhamarome@ wrote:> >> >> > manjunath someshi bhamarome@> > (unknown)> > > > Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 10:23 AM> >> >> > Name: Bharati> > DOB: 10.02.1973> > Place: Mudhol (Dist: Bagalkot) Karnataka> > Time: 10.45 PM> > Â> > Above details are of my wife. She is unhealthy since last 2-3 years.> She is always tensed. Complains of body ache. Feeling dull andunwilling> to do any work. Suddenly gets angry. Unable to listen to my and others> words. Impatient and sleepless. Not agreeing with me in any mattersand> has become non co-operative.> > What is wrong with her?> > Please advise some solution.> > Thanking you very much.> >> >> > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India> Travel Click here!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/> >> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Neelamji Pls note their are 12types of KSY and from each house a different kind of KSY is made. All KSY do not spell struggle. Some do hv good results like Bill Gates founder owner of Microsoft also has KSY in his chart, but he has flourished. I am not convinced what Shri Raman has mentioned. KSY gives results pertaining to the nodes rahu & ketu occupy and which bhavs also they occupy or are placed in the natal chart. U also are a good astrologer, if in ur opinion this is not the case of KSY, Can u please give us ur analysis of this chart without pointing out the effects of KSY. A comparison can be made of analysis of with & without KSY. HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies http://in./search?query=chandra-adityaastroremedies neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Thursday, 28 May, 2009 8:12:19 PMRe: Re:(unknown) Dear Haresh ji and all, KSY, as we know, is one of the least understood and most misunderstood yogas of modern astrology. It is more like a special yoga, or a combination in a nativity, but has been rendered quite dreadful due to unnecessary fanning by vested interests. I am not denying KSY as a YOGA, and agree that it will give certain specific results, but one has to check the chart in its totality. Just like other yogas, which do not or cannot produce results, or give extraordinary results, fructification of KSY also is appears to be conditional. We have umpteen examples of both types of cases. Just because native is showing some KSY-like results, we cannot say she has KSY. We have very little information about her to draw that conclusion. Rahu and mars are in parakram bhav, but their dispositor is debilitated and afflicts lagna lord venus. Jupiter is also 6L of diseases and it might’ve resulted in some disorder which can make the native, not inherently, but temporarily weak. Weakness of moon is another pointer in that direction.In our present context, we first have to confirm and agree on the eligibility of this placement to form the KSY. Since we have one planet outside the arc, it might negate the yoga, some call it Bhang yoga. There is also a point that planets do not fall from rahu to ketu, so according to some views, this itself is a disqualification and make it a Kal Amrit Yoga instead. (please correct me if I am wrong, as I am not too sure of this).Since classics do not mention this yoga, we depend on BV Raman’s views on this and according to the rules are: All planets must be “hemmed in†between Rahu and Ketu, as we read clockwise in the southern-style radix chart. Rahu must occupy one of the first six houses from the lagna, i.e., bhava 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 and if even one planet is outside the "clutches" of Rahu-Ketu - if even one planet is not hemmed in - Kala-Sarpa yoga does not apply. As per above points, this chart does not qualify for KSY according to these rules. Members are free not to to what I have said. I request other learned astrologers to share their views. Pathi ji has already denied its existence. RegardsNeelam Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Haresh ji,I did make an attempt on this (msg 8517), but to get into further details, one needs a feedback from the poster, which we're not getting.Perhaps you've not seen my earlier message, I am not denying the existence of KSY per se and its good and bad results. We are just trying to find out whether this particular case falls under KSY or not. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Dear Nathani ji, These are areas where one may differ, so we have to learn to agree to ones disagreement on what you may agree upon. Neelamji is one of the best astrologers whom I hold in high esteem on Internet Jyotish, and we possibly cannot ask her to spend time on a chart where we do not have the native active on the Group, and which is anyway not going to serve any purpose. Because we are all expert enough to justify our claims with hundreds of claims, references and what have you, from hundreds of books, and resources under access to us. Jyotish is also a subject where it is very easy to do postmartem and " Fix " our arguments to match the events given to us by any native, or known to us. Anyways, in such areas as KSY, we will ahve to just enjoy discussion with each other in an healthy manner, and not look at throwing cahhelnges around as it would not befeasible with the kind of guys we are dealing with, who have proved themselves to be high on their pedestals. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear Neelamji >  > Pls note their are 12types of KSY and from each house a different kind of KSY is made. All KSY do not spell struggle. Some do hv good results like Bill Gates founder owner of Microsoft also has KSY in his chart, but he has flourished. I am not convinced what Shri Raman has mentioned. KSY gives results pertaining to the nodes rahu & ketu occupy and which bhavs also they occupy or are placed in the natal chart. >  > U also are a good astrologer, if in ur opinion this is not the case of KSY, Can u please give us ur analysis of this chart without pointing out the effects of KSY. A comparison can be made of analysis of with & without KSY. > >  > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 > Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies://in./search?query=chand\ ra-adityaastroremedies >  >  > > > > > ________________________________ > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 > > Thursday, 28 May, 2009 8:12:19 PM > Re: Re:(unknown) > > > > > > Dear Haresh ji and all, > > KSY, as we know, is one of the least understood and most misunderstood yogas of modern astrology. It is more like a special yoga, or a combination in a nativity, but has been rendered quite dreadful due to unnecessary fanning by vested interests. I am not denying KSY as a YOGA, and agree that it will give certain specific results, but one has to check the chart in its totality. Just like other yogas, which do not or cannot produce results, or give extraordinary results, fructification of KSY also is appears to be conditional. We have umpteen examples of both types of cases. > > Just because native is showing some KSY-like results, we cannot say she has KSY. We have very little information about her to draw that conclusion. Rahu and mars are in parakram bhav, but their dispositor is debilitated and afflicts lagna lord venus. Jupiter is also 6L of diseases and it might’ve resulted in some disorder which can make the native, not inherently, but temporarily weak. Weakness of moon is another pointer in that direction. > > In our present context, we first have to confirm and agree on the eligibility of this placement to form the KSY. Since we have one planet outside the arc, it might negate the yoga, some call it Bhang yoga. There is also a point that planets do not fall from rahu to ketu, so according to some views, this itself is a disqualification and make it a Kal Amrit Yoga instead. (please correct me if I am wrong, as I am not too sure of this). > > Since classics do not mention this yoga, we depend on BV Raman’s views on this and according to the rules are: > > * All planets must be “hemmed in†between Rahu and Ketu, as we read clockwise in the southern-style radix chart. > > * Rahu must occupy one of the first six houses from the lagna, i.e., bhava 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 and if even one planet is outside the " clutches " of Rahu-Ketu - if even one planet is not hemmed in - Kala-Sarpa yoga does not apply. > As per above points, this chart does not qualify for KSY according to these rules. > Members are free not to to what I have said. I request other learned astrologers to share their views. Pathi ji has already denied its existence. > > Regards > Neelam > >  > > > Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.*Go to http://in.business./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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