meditation & the law of attraction

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Dear Bhaskar Da,

Since our exchanges as a "Jyotishi" and an "enquirist" are over, now we can become informal. Which is why I did not heed to your request previously.

I am now addressing you as "Bhaskar Da" as you had desired. But note that now all my problems would have to be taken up by you as a elder brother. There are many strings attached to relationships which have to be adhered to, in respecting those. As an elder brother you cannot address me as "Bhaskar Bhaiyya" but I can address you so. You can address me only as as "Bhaskar". And You will have to enquire about my welfare from time to time and take steps to make me comfortable in my Life as per my comforts, if not available to me, which you will have to provide for.

If You have to address me as a Jyotishi in future, then your age would have to be kept sideways, and you will have to addrees me as "Bhaskar ji" and not as "Bhaskar" or "Bhaskar Bhaiyya", because our culture does not allow us to do so, to a person who is seated on the seat where I am, and that seat has to be respected. (Not the person) but the seat).

I am a younger brother who does not waste a single moment without work or without a specific target aimed at, in Life. Therefore when people try to take advantage of me, as you have sensed this member in question has, then I acknowledge so, in my own ways, and do not like to be treated as a door mat and hence express my bitter feelings in my mode of expressions. She has sent me many mails , and now she is saying that there are many astrologers at her disposal. This is something which I will not accept lightly and will not allow to pass. This will be remembered in my future communications with her.

There are many such type of people whom I have met in my journey as a astrologer on the Internet, so know exactly what the world is after, when they speak sweetly to me. I can expect what is to come next. Just an half hour ago, one lady member from London put a message on chat for me, that she wishes to donate some money as charity and she wants to send me the same. I replied her back that I dont accept charity. Then in the course of my chat converstaion with her I asked her what is the amount she wishes to send, and she said Rs.730- For such a paltry amount she chatted with me for 20 minutes and wasted my precious time. I asked her why she cant spend this in London itself where there are many poor people and many orphanages too. But she said that the first name that came in her mind was me. Do You think that I get carried away by such stupid sentiments presented by Opportunists, on exchanges ? No . She has already consulted me previously on astrological queries for free on many occasions , and I know for sure that she wants to do so again, so she is offering me a bait. She does not know that Bhaskar does not accept Charity or any money which is not earnt. Then that stupid lady also mentioned that she would not ask me where I send the paltry amount of Rs. 730-. (Implying in other words that even if I keep it does not matter) I replied that even my wife does not ask me under what Heads I donate Rs.10000- every month to what charities ? I terminated the chat by saying that my dinner is served ( Though I have yet to have my dinner ).

So Bhaskar Da now you decide whether you wish to make me your younger brother, or just keep contacts as a Jyotishi and a client . The ball is in your court. But remember that if I am a younger brother then I would have the guts to go and speak to my Bhabhi if she does not keep you well enough, and I would also have the guts to fight with anybody in the world if he tries to touch you in any manner or harm your interests. If You also posssess the same guts, power and determination, then you may become my elder brother. I would be most happy to put the responsibilities of my own Life on another shoulders and make merry, with the confidence that my elder Brother would take care.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

, Bhaskar Dutta Gupta <arundhuti_dg wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji:> > Gradually I'm realizing what makes you curt to the point of rudeness. What gibberish below!> > Regards,> > Bhaskar DG> - > Bhaskar > > Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:45 PM> Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > > > > //...and as for 2 astrologers at beck & call....plz don't mind ..there> are many here..//> > I am aware there are at least 400 astrologers working on the Indian> Jyotish Groups, and in other groups would jump and leap to answer a> query, and more so if they know the enquirist is a lady.> > I am also aware that after using my services, people find many others at> the drop of a hat. I am accustomed to coldness once I stop giving my> services for free.> > Let us now no more continue this exchange because you seem to write> after breaks and pauses, whereas if all is written at one go, it would> be easier for me to reply you.> > well best of luck,> > Bhaskar.> > , kiran dasaur kirandasaur@> wrote:> >> > well! and why he said WAH! KYA BAAT HAI ...what he said after that I> did not tell you because then YOU and all the 7k+ reading the mails out> there would be thinking that I was indulging in self-praise......so,let> it go.............you have my dob & everything.I asked you a question> once....remember???and HE also said that there were some obstacles...but> he would tell UPAAYE...and as for 2 astrologers at beck & call....plz> don't mind ..there are many here....and a few are very good friends> since before my marriage...and one of them Ashok BHAIYAA.....has> left home to live in shmashaan ghaat....I feel sorry for all his> GHARWAALE.........but HE knows what is best for him......someday I> want to meet him again....and ask him soooooo many things......just> waiting for the SAMAY to come.....> >> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 7:13 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Kiran ji,> >> > Good that someone made himself your "Guru". But then why did you> > exchange so many mails with me on the "Black magic" part, when you> > already had two astrologers at your beck and call.> >> > What he saw in Your Kundli - why did you not ask him ? What prevented> > you from asking him ? Please let us know why he said "Vow" whenever> you> > get the answers from him. I would be interested and curious.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@> ...>> > wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskarji,.. ......... but you stopped teaching us.........and now I> > have got hold of another astrologer who met my husband when he visited> > another astrologer who is a friend and a client of my husband...and> this> > astrologer said...WOW! when he saw my kundali...god knows why?...and> he> > immediately made himself my guru ..said I can learn astrology very> > well...and now he will start teaching me soon...whenever he'll be> coming> > back from M.P.......so of course..NO LINDA GOODMAN now & no JOSEPH> > GOODAVAGE now...BYE to them....> > >> > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > >> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:46 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > I am a Leo Lagna-Vargottam. (Vargottama means Navamsha Lagna also> Leo)> > > I have Mars and Rahu in Lagna.> > > Sun in Gemini.> > > Moon in Sagittarius.> > > (Note these are odd and Fiery signs).> > > Lagna at 15 degrees.> > > Sun and Moon opposing each other which makes it Poornima birth.> > > Ã,> > > So do not blame me if I get angered and heated at times.Ã,> (Blame it> > on my chart).> > > Ã,> > > About Neelamji, you had better ask her only.> > > Ã,> > > And you had better stop reading Linda Good man now. She is good, but> > we have our own texts which contain enough treasures not looted and> > untapped, uptil now.> > > Ã,> > > regards,> > > Bhaskar.> > > Ã,> > > Ã,> > >> > > , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@> > ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an> > aries..perhaps. ..tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to> > testÃfâ?sÃ, myself on Ãfâ?sÃ, how much I have gained...I> have been> > reading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college...> > > >> > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ...> > > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... .> > > >> > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Kiran ji,> > > >> > > > I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective> > and right comments, how will other members understand.> > > > You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need> > to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries.> > > >> > > > In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with> > proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be> > misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not.> > > > You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret?> > Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind.> > > >> > > > Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But> > specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care> > and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when> carried> > on the shoulders of responsibility.> > > >> > > > Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point> across.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which> I> > found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ......> > > > I think you missed the mail...> > > > here is what I said to Bhaskarji...> > > > Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ,> Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ, hello! sir, there> > is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also> > sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks> suggestions.> > .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is> given> > about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Kiran ji,> > > >> > > > I am sorry but I doÃfâ?sÃ, not understand what are you> trying to> > tell us?> > > > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on> the> > site:> > > > http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html> > > >> > > >> > > > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments> > anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net> > information? Then you should say that.> > > > There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they> > make of it? What will they extract from it?> > > >> > > > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?> > > > But this is nowhere?> > > >> > > > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ,> Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ, The> > basic ideaÃfâ?sÃ, of "law of attraction"is that our current> fortune is> > an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are> > positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice> > versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing> > experiences.> > > > To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information> from> > an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes> > our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the> > filters we have only allow through certain classes of information.> That> > is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will> > naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is> > being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that> > were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things> > previously allowed through will be blocked.> > > > One of the basic teachings is that Ãf¢ââ?s¬Ã<Å"thoughts> become> > thingsÃf¢ââ?s‰â?z¢. This is a quote from the movie--the> secret.. Our> > thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the> > world.> > > > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience> > are also at the level of effect rather than cause.> > > > This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some> superficial> > positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not> > accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning> across> > lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns,> > Ãf¢ââ?s¬Ã<Å"poverty consciousnessÃf¢ââ?s‰â?z¢> for example, are like a> > deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of> growing> > under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime> of> > beliefs, values and practice.> > > > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would> take> > the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading> > Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the> driveway> > > > Ãfâ?sÃ, Ãfâ?sÃ,> > > > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That> is> > it.> > > > Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation> that> > allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the> > insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In> > this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances> > become weakened which allows greater potential for change.> > > > The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an> easy> > way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance> and> > prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions> > needed for such a life.> > > > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we> > learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our> > current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to> cultivate> > more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions.> > > > The mental and physical aspects work together.> > > > Ãfâ?sÃ,> > > >> > > >> > > > Ãfâ?sÃ,> > > >> > >> >>