Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. The mental and physical aspects work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 this is rong infermation ________________________________ kiran dasaur <kirandasaur jyotish ganga Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:48:41 PM meditation & the law of attraction         The basic idea of " law of attraction " is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 This mail was deliberately allowed to put in record this members mail here, I have been receiving plenty of such mails, some good and some unreadable, so this stays here for record for future help in legal proceedings, if any. Bhaskar. , Rmohamed Rafiqeee <rmohamedrafiqeee wrote:>> this is rong infermation> > > > ________________________________> kiran dasaur kirandasaur jyotish ganga > Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:48:41 PM> meditation & the law of attraction> > >         The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 also has a very efficient system in place and every post is recorded in the Files, how many messages received from whom, and how many were deleted by me, due to whatever reasons. This is recorded under the Moderators activity Files, and thus a continued spam is not gone unnoticed. This record stays for eternity and cannot be erased even by the Moderator/Owner.There is also a system whereby the same poster if he comes in various ids, and remains on the Group, is identified at time of removal, so all those who are into such nefarious activities, will have it, the day I wish to take them to task. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > This mail was deliberately allowed to put in record this members mail > here, I have been receiving plenty of such mails, some good and some > unreadable, so this stays here for record for future help in legal > proceedings, if any. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Rmohamed Rafiqeee > rmohamedrafiqeee@ wrote: > > > > this is rong infermation > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > jyotish ganga > > Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:48:41 PM > > meditation & the law of attraction > > > > > >         The basic idea of " law > of attraction " is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our > current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract > positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and > depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Dear Kiran ji,I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:http://www.lifechoicemeditation.com/law-of-attraction.html Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it? If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY? But this is nowhere? Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)RegardsNeelam2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur The basic idea of " law of attraction " is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. The mental and physical aspects work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!........... I think you missed the mail... here is what I said to Bhaskarji... hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction...and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions..sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??--- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM Dear Kiran ji,I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. htmlNow what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it?If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?But this is nowhere? Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. The mental and physical aspects work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 and what is 5k+ ?--- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote: kiran dasaur <kirandasaurRe: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:36 AM YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ...... I think you missed the mail... here is what I said to Bhaskarji... hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??--- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: meditation & the law of attractionThursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM Dear Kiran ji,I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. htmlNow what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it?If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?But this is nowhere? Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. The mental and physical aspects work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Dear Kiran ji,I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective and right comments, how will other members understand. You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries. In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not. You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret? Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind. Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried on the shoulders of responsibility. Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across.RegardsNeelam2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!........... I think you missed the mail... here is what I said to Bhaskarji... hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction...and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions..sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group?? --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM Dear Kiran ji,I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it? If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?But this is nowhere? Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > The basic idea of " law of attraction " is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. The mental and physical aspects work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 ok, dhyaan rakhoongi....sorry!.....my first mistake......--- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM Dear Kiran ji,I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective and right comments, how will other members understand. You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries. In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not. You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret? Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind.Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried on the shoulders of responsibility. Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across.RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ...... I think you missed the mail... here is what I said to Bhaskarji... hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??--- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: meditation & the law of attractionThursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM Dear Kiran ji,I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it?If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?But this is nowhere? Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. The mental and physical aspects work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an aries..perhaps...tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to test myself on how much I have gained...I have been reading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college...--- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote: kiran dasaur <kirandasaurRe: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... .--- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: meditation & the law of attractionThursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM Dear Kiran ji,I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective and right comments, how will other members understand. You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries. In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not. You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret? Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind.Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried on the shoulders of responsibility. Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across.RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ...... I think you missed the mail... here is what I said to Bhaskarji... hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??--- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: meditation & the law of attractionThursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM Dear Kiran ji,I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it?If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?But this is nowhere? Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. The mental and physical aspects work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I suppose by 5k+ it is meant 5000+ members. Now its 7k+ . regards/Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote:>> and what is 5k+ ?> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur wrote:> > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:36 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ......> I think you missed the mail...> here is what I said to Bhaskarji...>       hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??> > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM> > > > > Dear Kiran ji,> > I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:> http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html> > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.> There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it?> > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?> But this is nowhere? > > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)> > Regards> Neelam> > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences.> To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. > One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause.> This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway>   > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it.> Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change.> The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions.> The mental and physical aspects work together.>  > > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I am a Leo Lagna-Vargottam. (Vargottama means Navamsha Lagna also Leo) I have Mars and Rahu in Lagna. Sun in Gemini. Moon in Sagittarius. (Note these are odd and Fiery signs). Lagna at 15 degrees. Sun and Moon opposing each other which makes it Poornima birth. So do not blame me if I get angered and heated at times. (Blame it on my chart). About Neelamji, you had better ask her only. And you had better stop reading Linda Good man now. She is good, but we have our own texts which contain enough treasures not looted and untapped, uptil now. regards, Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote:>> by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an aries..perhaps...tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to test myself on  how much I have gained...I have been reading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college...> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur wrote:> > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... .> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM> > > > > Dear Kiran ji,> > I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective and right comments, how will other members understand. > You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries. > > In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not. > You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret? Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind.> > Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried on the shoulders of responsibility. > > Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ......> I think you missed the mail...> here is what I said to Bhaskarji...>       hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??> > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM> > > > > > Dear Kiran ji,> > I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:> http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html > > > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.> There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it?> > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?> But this is nowhere? > > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)> > Regards> Neelam> > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences.> To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. > One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause.> This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway>   > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it.> Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change.> The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions.> The mental and physical aspects work together.>  > > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Bhaskarji,...........but you stopped teaching us.........and now I have got hold of another astrologer who met my husband when he visited another astrologer who is a friend and a client of my husband...and this astrologer said...WOW! when he saw my kundali...god knows why?...and he immediately made himself my guru ..said I can learn astrology very well...and now he will start teaching me soon...whenever he'll be coming back from M.P.......so of course..NO LINDA GOODMAN now & no JOSEPH GOODAVAGE now...BYE to them....--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:46 AM I am a Leo Lagna-Vargottam. (Vargottama means Navamsha Lagna also Leo) I have Mars and Rahu in Lagna. Sun in Gemini. Moon in Sagittarius. (Note these are odd and Fiery signs). Lagna at 15 degrees. Sun and Moon opposing each other which makes it Poornima birth. So do not blame me if I get angered and heated at times. (Blame it on my chart). About Neelamji, you had better ask her only. And you had better stop reading Linda Good man now. She is good, but we have our own texts which contain enough treasures not looted and untapped, uptil now. regards, Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ...> wrote:>> by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an aries..perhaps. ..tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to test myself on  how much I have gained...I have been reading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college...> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ... wrote:> > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ...> Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... .> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM> > > > > Dear Kiran ji,> > I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective and right comments, how will other members understand. > You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries. > > In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not. > You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret? Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind.> > Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried on the shoulders of responsibility. > > Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ......> I think you missed the mail...> here is what I said to Bhaskarji...>       hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??> > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM> > > > > > Dear Kiran ji,> > I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site:> http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html > > > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.> There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it?> > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?> But this is nowhere? > > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)> > Regards> Neelam> > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         The basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences.> To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. > One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause.> This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway>   > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it.> Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change.> The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions.> The mental and physical aspects work together.>  > > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Let me add something interesting for study purpose. Normally one just looks at planets in signs and read the results from books like Linda Goodman or others. Now consider this angle. My own Chart. Sun and Mercury in Gemini. Mars and Rahu in Leo. Moon in Sagitatrius. Ketu of course in Aquarius. Venus in Aries. ( 7 Planets all in Odd signs and 4 Planets in Fiery signs and 3 Planets in Fixed signs) What will this make any person you decide. Suppose it was a lady then what would have been her nature and character, you decide. In my case most of the members on various groups know my nature, Hot tempered, short tempered, abusive, ready to get entangled in fights , rude language, blunt language etc.etc. This happens when a person has got more of his planets in Fixed,Odd and Fiery signs. I get cooled immediately after some time . Why ? Due to the Moon aspecting the Sun. Corroborations on the palm On my palm the difference (Gap ) between the Life Line and the head Line is around 3/4th of an inch, a wide gap. There is a big V between the finger of Mercury and the finger of Sun, showing a person who makes his own paths and does not walk on the trodden ones coming through hierarchy. The Mercury finger goes tangent in a 30 degrees angle. when the palm spread unturned This is also confirmed by the upper phalange(Impulsive nature) of my thumb being more longer than the lower one(Logic ). So I normally act first on impulse and use my Logic later on. When I spread across my palm the V between the thumb and the finger of Jupiter (Index finger) makes a very small angle, revealing that I am an introvert and dont make friends easily. Well that is enough for today. Will write some more on another day when the mood sets in. regards, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> I am a Leo Lagna-Vargottam. (Vargottama means Navamsha Lagna also Leo) I> have Mars and Rahu in Lagna. Sun in Gemini. Moon in Sagittarius. (Note> these are odd and Fiery signs). Lagna at 15 degrees. Sun and Moon> opposing each other which makes it Poornima birth. So do not blame me> if I get angered and heated at times. (Blame it on my chart). About> Neelamji, you had better ask her only. And you had better stop reading> Linda Good man now. She is good, but we have our own texts which contain> enough treasures not looted and untapped, uptil now. regards, Bhaskar.> > > > > > , kiran dasaur kirandasaur@> wrote:> >> > by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an> aries..perhaps...tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to> test myself on  how much I have gained...I have been reading> LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college...> >> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ wrote:> >> >> > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@> > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... .> >> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> >> >> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM> >> >> >> >> > Dear Kiran ji,> >> > I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective and> right comments, how will other members understand.> > You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need to> be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries.> >> > In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with proper> background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be> misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not.> > You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret?> Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind.> >> > Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But> specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care> and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried> on the shoulders of responsibility.> >> > Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I> found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ......> > I think you missed the mail...> > here is what I said to Bhaskarji...> >       hello! sir, there is a lot of talk> about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the> articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. .sir,I have> come upon another site where something interesting is given about this> law..shall I send it to this astro group??> >> >> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> >> >> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Kiran ji,> >> > I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell> us?> > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the> site:> > http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html> >> >> > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere?> Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then> you should say that.> > There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make> of it? What will they extract from it?> >> > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?> > But this is nowhere?> >> > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> >> > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >         The basic idea of "law> of attraction"is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our> current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract> positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and> depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences.> > To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from> an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes> our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the> filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That> is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will> naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is> being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that> were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things> previously allowed through will be blocked.> > One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become> things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our> thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the> world.> > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are> also at the level of effect rather than cause.> > This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial> positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not> accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across> lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty> consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What> you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every> habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and> practice.> > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take> the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading> Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway> >  Â> > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is> it.> > Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that> allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the> insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In> this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances> become weakened which allows greater potential for change.> > The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy> way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and> prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions> needed for such a life.> > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we> learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our> current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate> more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions.> > The mental and physical aspects work together.> > Â> >> >> > Â> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Dear Kiran ji, Good that someone made himself your " Guru " . But then why did you exchange so many mails with me on the " Black magic " part, when you already had two astrologers at your beck and call. What he saw in Your Kundli - why did you not ask him ? What prevented you from asking him ? Please let us know why he said " Vow " whenever you get the answers from him. I would be interested and curious. regards/Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote: > > Bhaskarji,...........but you stopped teaching us.........and now I have got hold of another astrologer who met my husband when he visited another astrologer who is a friend and a client of my husband...and this astrologer said...WOW! when he saw my kundali...god knows why?...and he immediately made himself my guru ..said I can learn astrology very well...and now he will start teaching me soon...whenever he'll be coming back from M.P.......so of course..NO LINDA GOODMAN now & no JOSEPH GOODAVAGE now...BYE to them.... > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:46 AM > > > I am a Leo Lagna-Vargottam. (Vargottama means Navamsha Lagna also Leo) > I have Mars and Rahu in Lagna. > Sun in Gemini. > Moon in Sagittarius. > (Note these are odd and Fiery signs). > Lagna at 15 degrees. > Sun and Moon opposing each other which makes it Poornima birth. >  > So do not blame me if I get angered and heated at times. (Blame it on my chart). >  > About Neelamji, you had better ask her only. >  > And you had better stop reading Linda Good man now. She is good, but we have our own texts which contain enough treasures not looted and untapped, uptil now. >  > regards, > Bhaskar. >  >  > > , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ....> wrote: > > > > by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an aries..perhaps. ..tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to test myself on  how much I have gained...I have been reading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college... > > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ... wrote: > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ... > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... . > > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran ji, > > > > I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective and right comments, how will other members understand. > > You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries. > > > > In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not. > > You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret? Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind. > > > > Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried on the shoulders of responsibility. > > > > Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ...... > > I think you missed the mail... > > here is what I said to Bhaskarji... > >       hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. ..sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group?? > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran ji, > > > > I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? > > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site: > > http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html > > > > > > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that. > > There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it? > > > > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY? > > But this is nowhere? > > > > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-) > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >         The basic idea of " law of attraction " is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. > > To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. > > One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. > > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. > > This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. > > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway > >   > > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. > > Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. > > The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. > > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. > > The mental and physical aspects work together. > >  > > > > > >  > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Dear Kiran ji,It would be better if you don't READ (specially others) but UNDERSTAND.If only LINDA GOODMAN could make astrologers! Thank God you've not grown on our home-made stuff of Vedic Astrology? Otherwsie you'd ask us too many details, Lagna? Sun? Moon?All I know is that I am a Sagittarian (Sun sign for your Linda Good-Man-ish astrology) :-)RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an aries..perhaps...tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to test myself on how much I have gained...I have been reading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college... --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote: kiran dasaur <kirandasaurRe: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... .--- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: meditation & the law of attraction Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM Dear Kiran ji,I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective and right comments, how will other members understand. You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries. In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not. You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret? Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind. Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried on the shoulders of responsibility. Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across.RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ...... I think you missed the mail... here is what I said to Bhaskarji... hello! sir, there is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given about this law..shall I send it to this astro group?? --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> Re: meditation & the law of attraction Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM Dear Kiran ji,I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to tell us? This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the site: http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net information? Then you should say that.There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they make of it? What will they extract from it? If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?But this is nowhere? Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)RegardsNeelam 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > The basic idea of " law of attraction " is that our current fortune is an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing experiences. To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things previously allowed through will be blocked. One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts become things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the world. Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience are also at the level of effect rather than cause. This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, ‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of beliefs, values and practice. To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is it. Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances become weakened which allows greater potential for change. The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions needed for such a life. This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. The mental and physical aspects work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 faith Bhaskarji......faith ...... & trust...and you happened to mention tantra ,so,I asked........you.........did you mind??? Â sorry had to go earlier so could not answer you earlier..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 well! well! Neelamji...tab toh hamari khoob jamegi......... --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: meditation & the law of attraction Thursday, May 7, 2009, 7:14 AM Dear Kiran ji, It would be better if you don't READ (specially others) but UNDERSTAND. If only LINDA GOODMAN could make astrologers! Thank God you've not grown on our home-made stuff of Vedic Astrology? Otherwsie you'd ask us too many details, Lagna? Sun? Moon? All I know is that I am a Sagittarian (Sun sign for your Linda Good-Man-ish astrology) :-) Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 well! and why he said WAH! KYA BAAT HAI ...what he said after that I did not tell you because then YOU and all the 7k+ reading the mails out there would be thinking that I was indulging in self-praise......so,let it go.............you have my dob & everything.I asked you a question once....remember???and HE also said that there were some obstacles...but he would tell UPAAYE...and as for 2 astrologers at beck & call....plz don't mind ..there are many here....and a few are very good friends since before my marriage...and one of them Ashok BHAIYAA.....has left home to live in shmashaan ghaat....I feel sorry for all his GHARWAALE.........but HE knows what is best for him......someday I want to meet him again....and ask him soooooo many things......just waiting for the SAMAY to come.....--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 7:13 AM Dear Kiran ji,Good that someone made himself your "Guru". But then why did youexchange so many mails with me on the "Black magic" part, when youalready had two astrologers at your beck and call.What he saw in Your Kundli - why did you not ask him ? What preventedyou from asking him ? Please let us know why he said "Vow" whenever youget the answers from him. I would be interested and curious.regards/Bhaskar., kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ...>wrote:>> Bhaskarji,.. ......... but you stopped teaching us.........and now Ihave got hold of another astrologer who met my husband when he visitedanother astrologer who is a friend and a client of my husband...and thisastrologer said...WOW! when he saw my kundali...god knows why?...and heimmediately made himself my guru ..said I can learn astrology verywell...and now he will start teaching me soon...whenever he'll be comingback from M.P.......so of course..NO LINDA GOODMAN now & no JOSEPHGOODAVAGE now...BYE to them....>> --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:46 AM>>>>>>>>>> I am a Leo Lagna-Vargottam. (Vargottama means Navamsha Lagna also Leo)> I have Mars and Rahu in Lagna.> Sun in Gemini.> Moon in Sagittarius.> (Note these are odd and Fiery signs).> Lagna at 15 degrees.> Sun and Moon opposing each other which makes it Poornima birth.> Â> So do not blame me if I get angered and heated at times. (Blame iton my chart).> Â> About Neelamji, you had better ask her only.> Â> And you had better stop reading Linda Good man now. She is good, butwe have our own texts which contain enough treasures not looted anduntapped, uptil now.> Â> regards,> Bhaskar.> Â> Â>> , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote:> >> > by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji anaries..perhaps. ..tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying totest myself on  how much I have gained...I have beenreading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college...> >> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ... wrote:> >> >> > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ...> > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... .> >> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> >> >> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM> >> >> >> >> > Dear Kiran ji,> >> > I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspectiveand right comments, how will other members understand.> > You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they needto be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries.> >> > In such groups, any such information should be accompanied withproper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can bemisleading, you do not even know if it is true or not.> > You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret?Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind.> >> > Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. Butspecific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with careand with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carriedon the shoulders of responsibility.> >> > Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which Ifound interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ......> > I think you missed the mail...> > here is what I said to Bhaskarji...> >       hello! sir, thereis a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has alsosent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions..sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is givenabout this law..shall I send it to this astro group??> >> >> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> >> >> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Kiran ji,> >> > I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying totell us?> > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on thesite:> > http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html> >> >> > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your commentsanywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some netinformation? Then you should say that.> > There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will theymake of it? What will they extract from it?> >> > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?> > But this is nowhere?> >> > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> >> > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >         Thebasic idea of "law of attraction"is that our current fortune isan absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we arepositive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Viceversa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressingexperiences.> > To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information froman incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includesour prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that thefilters we have only allow through certain classes of information. Thatis the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we willnaturally change our experience of the world because we change what isbeing filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things thatwere previously deleted will be allowed through and some thingspreviously allowed through will be blocked.> > One of the basic teachings is that ‘thoughts becomethings’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Ourthoughts are things that determine what results we experience in theworld.> > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experienceare also at the level of effect rather than cause.> > This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficialpositive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do notaccept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning acrosslifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns,‘poverty consciousness’ for example, are like adeeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growingunder the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime ofbeliefs, values and practice.> > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would takethe same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than readingCosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway> >  ÂÂ> > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That isit.> > Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation thatallow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain theinsight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. Inthis way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstancesbecome weakened which allows greater potential for change.> > The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easyway to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance andprosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditionsneeded for such a life.> > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation welearn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained ourcurrent situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivatemore positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions.> > The mental and physical aspects work together.> > ÂÂ> >> >> > ÂÂ> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 //...and as for 2 astrologers at beck & call....plz don't mind ..there are many here..// I am aware there are at least 400 astrologers working on the Indian Jyotish Groups, and in other groups would jump and leap to answer a query, and more so if they know the enquirist is a lady. I am also aware that after using my services, people find many others at the drop of a hat. I am accustomed to coldness once I stop giving my services for free. Let us now no more continue this exchange because you seem to write after breaks and pauses, whereas if all is written at one go, it would be easier for me to reply you. well best of luck, Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote: > > well! and why he said WAH! KYA BAAT HAI ...what he said after that I did not tell you because then YOU and all the 7k+ reading the mails out there would be thinking that I was indulging in self-praise......so,let it go.............you have my dob & everything.I asked you a question once....remember???and HE also said that there were some obstacles...but he would tell UPAAYE...and as for 2 astrologers at beck & call....plz don't mind ..there are many here....and a few are very good friends since before my marriage...and one of them Ashok BHAIYAA.....has left home to live in shmashaan ghaat....I feel sorry for all his GHARWAALE.........but HE knows what is best for him......someday I want to meet him again....and ask him soooooo many things......just waiting for the SAMAY to come..... > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 7:13 AM > > > Dear Kiran ji, > > Good that someone made himself your " Guru " . But then why did you > exchange so many mails with me on the " Black magic " part, when you > already had two astrologers at your beck and call. > > What he saw in Your Kundli - why did you not ask him ? What prevented > you from asking him ? Please let us know why he said " Vow " whenever you > get the answers from him. I would be interested and curious. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ....> > wrote: > > > > Bhaskarji,.. ......... but you stopped teaching us.........and now I > have got hold of another astrologer who met my husband when he visited > another astrologer who is a friend and a client of my husband...and this > astrologer said...WOW! when he saw my kundali...god knows why?...and he > immediately made himself my guru ..said I can learn astrology very > well...and now he will start teaching me soon...whenever he'll be coming > back from M.P.......so of course..NO LINDA GOODMAN now & no JOSEPH > GOODAVAGE now...BYE to them.... > > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a Leo Lagna-Vargottam. (Vargottama means Navamsha Lagna also Leo) > > I have Mars and Rahu in Lagna. > > Sun in Gemini. > > Moon in Sagittarius. > > (Note these are odd and Fiery signs). > > Lagna at 15 degrees. > > Sun and Moon opposing each other which makes it Poornima birth. > >  > > So do not blame me if I get angered and heated at times. (Blame it > on my chart). > >  > > About Neelamji, you had better ask her only. > >  > > And you had better stop reading Linda Good man now. She is good, but > we have our own texts which contain enough treasures not looted and > untapped, uptil now. > >  > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > >  > >  > > > > , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > ...> wrote: > > > > > > by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an > aries..perhaps. ..tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to > test myself on  how much I have gained...I have been > reading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college... > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ... > > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... . > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran ji, > > > > > > I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective > and right comments, how will other members understand. > > > You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need > to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries. > > > > > > In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with > proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be > misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not. > > > You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret? > Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind. > > > > > > Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But > specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care > and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting when carried > on the shoulders of responsibility. > > > > > > Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my point across. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something which I > found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ...... > > > I think you missed the mail... > > > here is what I said to Bhaskarji... > > >       hello! sir, there > is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also > sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seeks suggestions. > .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting is given > about this law..shall I send it to this astro group?? > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction > > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran ji, > > > > > > I am sorry but I do not understand what are you trying to > tell us? > > > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone on the > site: > > > http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html > > > > > > > > > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments > anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net > information? Then you should say that. > > > There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they > make of it? What will they extract from it? > > > > > > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY? > > > But this is nowhere? > > > > > > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-) > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >         The > basic idea of " law of attraction " is that our current fortune is > an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are > positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice > versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing > experiences. > > > To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter information from > an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes > our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the > filters we have only allow through certain classes of information. That > is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will > naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is > being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that > were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things > previously allowed through will be blocked. > > > One of the basic teachings is that â€ˊ" thoughts become > things’. This is a quote from the movie--the secret.. Our > thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the > world. > > > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience > are also at the level of effect rather than cause. > > > This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with some superficial > positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not > accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioning across > lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns, > â€ˊ" poverty consciousness’ for example, are like a > deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot of growing > under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetime of > beliefs, values and practice. > > > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force would take > the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading > Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on the driveway > > >   > > > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. That is > it. > > > Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditation that > allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the > insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In > this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances > become weakened which allows greater potential for change. > > > The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises an easy > way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundance and > prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions > needed for such a life. > > > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we > learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our > current situation in life. This allows us the mental space to cultivate > more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions. > > > The mental and physical aspects work together. > > >  > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well Kiran ji, there is a big problem here...I am like.... say mercury! wo kaise jamega aur kisi ke saath kaise milega?2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur well! well! Neelamji...tab toh hamari khoob jamegi......... --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: meditation & the law of attraction Thursday, May 7, 2009, 7:14 AM Dear Kiran ji, It would be better if you don't READ (specially others) but UNDERSTAND. If only LINDA GOODMAN could make astrologers! Thank God you've not grown on our home-made stuff of Vedic Astrology? Otherwsie you'd ask us too many details, Lagna? Sun? Moon? All I know is that I am a Sagittarian (Sun sign for your Linda Good-Man-ish astrology) :-) Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 well! well! now stop pulling my leg..both of you ...hahahah!!!!you know Neelamji...mercury jamati nahi,phir bhi uska PARAD SHIVALINGA banaya jaata hai...hai ki nahi... & now I think,AS Bhaskarji has said We must move On....--- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 10:17 AM Well Kiran ji, there is a big problem here...I am like.... say mercury! wo kaise jamega aur kisi ke saath kaise milega? 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > well! well! Neelamji...tab toh hamari khoob jamegi...... ... --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: meditation & the law of attractionThursday, May 7, 2009, 7:14 AM Dear Kiran ji,It would be better if you don't READ (specially others) but UNDERSTAND.If only LINDA GOODMAN could make astrologers! Thank God you've not grown on our home-made stuff of Vedic Astrology?Otherwsie you'd ask us too many details, Lagna? Sun? Moon?All I know is that I am a Sagittarian (Sun sign for your Linda Good-Man-ish astrology) :-)RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji: Gradually I'm realizing what makes you curt to the point of rudeness. What gibberish below! Regards, Bhaskar DG - Bhaskar Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:45 PM Re: meditation & the law of attraction //...and as for 2 astrologers at beck & call....plz don't mind ..thereare many here..//I am aware there are at least 400 astrologers working on the IndianJyotish Groups, and in other groups would jump and leap to answer aquery, and more so if they know the enquirist is a lady.I am also aware that after using my services, people find many others atthe drop of a hat. I am accustomed to coldness once I stop giving myservices for free.Let us now no more continue this exchange because you seem to writeafter breaks and pauses, whereas if all is written at one go, it wouldbe easier for me to reply you.well best of luck,Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaurwrote:>> well! and why he said WAH! KYA BAAT HAI ...what he said after that Idid not tell you because then YOU and all the 7k+ reading the mails outthere would be thinking that I was indulging in self-praise......so,letit go.............you have my dob & everything.I asked you a questiononce....remember???and HE also said that there were some obstacles...buthe would tell UPAAYE...and as for 2 astrologers at beck & call....plzdon't mind ..there are many here....and a few are very good friendssince before my marriage...and one of them Ashok BHAIYAA.....hasleft home to live in shmashaan ghaat....I feel sorry for all hisGHARWAALE.........but HE knows what is best for him......someday Iwant to meet him again....and ask him soooooo many things......justwaiting for the SAMAY to come.....>> --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 7:13 AM>>>>>>>>>> Dear Kiran ji,>> Good that someone made himself your "Guru". But then why did you> exchange so many mails with me on the "Black magic" part, when you> already had two astrologers at your beck and call.>> What he saw in Your Kundli - why did you not ask him ? What prevented> you from asking him ? Please let us know why he said "Vow" wheneveryou> get the answers from him. I would be interested and curious.>> regards/Bhaskar.>> , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur> wrote:> >> > Bhaskarji,.. ......... but you stopped teaching us.........and now I> have got hold of another astrologer who met my husband when he visited> another astrologer who is a friend and a client of my husband...andthis> astrologer said...WOW! when he saw my kundali...god knows why?...andhe> immediately made himself my guru ..said I can learn astrology very> well...and now he will start teaching me soon...whenever he'll becoming> back from M.P.......so of course..NO LINDA GOODMAN now & no JOSEPH> GOODAVAGE now...BYE to them....> >> > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> >> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:46 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I am a Leo Lagna-Vargottam. (Vargottama means Navamsha Lagna alsoLeo)> > I have Mars and Rahu in Lagna.> > Sun in Gemini.> > Moon in Sagittarius.> > (Note these are odd and Fiery signs).> > Lagna at 15 degrees.> > Sun and Moon opposing each other which makes it Poornima birth.> > Â> > So do not blame me if I get angered and heated at times.Â(Blame it> on my chart).> > Â> > About Neelamji, you had better ask her only.> > Â> > And you had better stop reading Linda Good man now. She is good, but> we have our own texts which contain enough treasures not looted and> untapped, uptil now.> > Â> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > Â> > Â> >> > , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@> ...> wrote:> > >> > > by the way Bhaskarji,are you a libra?? or capri!! and neelamji an> aries..perhaps. ..tell me if I am right or wrong??I am just trying to> test myself on  how much I have gained...Ihave been> reading LINDA GOODMAN since I was in college...> > >> > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ... wrote:> > >> > >> > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ ...> > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:16 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ok, dhyaan rakhoongi... .sorry!.. ...my first mistake..... .> > >> > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > >> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:00 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Kiran ji,> > >> > > I know you said, but without the actual post the right perspective> and right comments, how will other members understand.> > > You know they don't even read the homepage and every day they need> to be reminded of the rules, etc for sending queries.> > >> > > In such groups, any such information should be accompanied with> proper background in which it is being put across. Otherwise it can be> misleading, you do not even know if it is true or not.> > > You know why many sensitive ancient texts were kept secret?> Information can be misinterpreted by an unprepared mind.> > >> > > Posting puranic and mythological stories is a different issue. But> specific information on sensitive issues should be imparted with care> and with proper precautions. Freedom is always long lasting whencarried> on the shoulders of responsibility.> > >> > > Just a friendly advice, if I have been able to put my pointacross.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > YES! NEELAM JI,I DID SAY SO.....that I am sending something whichI> found interesting on some other site ..!!!!!..... ......> > > I think you missed the mail...> > > here is what I said to Bhaskarji...> > >    Â  hello! sir, there> is a lot of talk about law of attraction.. .and a grp member has also> sent me the articles he has written for his book...he seekssuggestions.> .sir,I have come upon another site where something interesting isgiven> about this law..shall I send it to this astro group??> > >> > >> > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > >> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > Re: meditation & the law of attraction> > > > > > Thursday, May 7, 2009, 5:30 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Kiran ji,> > >> > > I am sorry but I do not understand what are youtrying to> tell us?> > > This is a C & P of the review of The SECRETS written by someone onthe> site:> > > http://www.lifechoi cemeditation. com/law-of- attraction. html> > >> > >> > > Now what are YOU trying say? I have not found your comments> anywhere? Shall we understand that you are passing on some net> information? Then you should say that.> > > There are many young members in this group of 5K+. What will they> make of it? What will they extract from it?> > >> > > If you're teaching then teach, if you're saying then SAY?> > > But this is nowhere?> > >> > > Hope you understand and take it in the right spirit.:-)> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/5/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >    Â    The> basic idea of "law of attraction"is that our currentfortune is> an absolute creation of our current state of mind. Thus, if we are> positive and upbeat we attract positive and upbeat experiences. Vice> versa, if we are gloomy and depressed we attract gloomy and depressing> experiences.> > > To a certain extent this is unremarkable. We filter informationfrom> an incredibly rich world in line with our conditioning, which includes> our prominent emotions, values and beliefs. That is to say that the> filters we have only allow through certain classes of information.That> is the function of a filter. If we change our conditioning we will> naturally change our experience of the world because we change what is> being filtered. If we change what is being filtered, some things that> were previously deleted will be allowed through and some things> previously allowed through will be blocked.> > > One of the basic teachings is that â€ËÅ"thoughtsbecome> things’. This is a quote from the movie--thesecret.. Our> thoughts are things that determine what results we experience in the> world.> > > Yet at a deeper level the thoughts and feelings that we experience> are also at the level of effect rather than cause.> > > This is why simply overlaying our conditioning with somesuperficial> positive and abundance affirmations will not work. Even if you do not> accept the concept of karma which takes the idea of conditioningacross> lifetimes, the central point is that strong patterns,> â€ËÅ"poverty consciousness’for example, are like a> deeply rooted plant. What you see above the ground took a lot ofgrowing> under the ground. Every habit and conditioned response has a lifetimeof> beliefs, values and practice.> > > To create a prosperity consciousness with the same force wouldtake> the same amount of effort! This is a lot more substantial than reading> Cosmic Ordering and expecting the new Mercedes to appear on thedriveway> > >  ÂÂ> > > Putting it simply, the Law of Attraction works when you do. Thatis> it.> > > Doing your work should include perspectives such as meditationthat> allow you to disassociate from your thoughts and feelings and gain the> insight required to, not have to, follow the contents of the mind. In> this way the conditions that hold you in your present circumstances> become weakened which allows greater potential for change.> > > The attraction of the Law of Attraction is that it promises aneasy> way to abundance and prosperity. However, it is true, that abundanceand> prosperity develop from habits of mind that support the conditions> needed for such a life.> > > This is where meditation plays a vital part. Through meditation we> learn to detach from the negative conditioning that has sustained our> current situation in life. This allows us the mental space tocultivate> more positive thoughts, feelings and most important, actions.> > > The mental and physical aspects work together.> > > ÂÂ> > >> > >> > > ÂÂ> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009  Drear Kiran ji: You should visit Kamakhya / Tarapith and stop pestering Bhaskar ji. I'm planning to visit Puri next week for Darshan of Lord Jagganath & Puja. If you give your full particulars I will offer Puja for you. Regards, Bhaskar DG - kiran dasaur Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:10 PM Re: Re: meditation & the law of attraction faith Bhaskarji......faith ...... & trust...and you happened to mention tantra ,so,I asked........you.........did you mind??? sorry had to go earlier so could not answer you earlier..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 thanks--- On Fri, 5/8/09, Bhaskar Dutta Gupta <arundhuti_dg wrote: Bhaskar Dutta Gupta <arundhuti_dgRe: Re: meditation & the law of attraction Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 10:28 AM  Drear Kiran ji: You should visit Kamakhya / Tarapith and stop pestering Bhaskar ji. I'm planning to visit Puri next week for Darshan of Lord Jagganath & Puja. If you give your full particulars I will offer Puja for you. Regards, Bhaskar DG - kiran dasaur Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:10 PM Re: Re: meditation & the law of attraction faith Bhaskarji... ...faith ...... & trust...and you happened to mention tantra ,so,I asked....... .you..... ....did you mind??? sorry had to go earlier so could not answer you earlier..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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