Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Hello Manish, Your Jupiter dasa is starting from 19th July, 2007, and it is likely to be comparatively better on all front. Your Moon, Jupiter and Mercury are weak and strengthening them can improve the results further for you. For your functional malefic planets you can do propitiatory remedies as per http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/virgoar.htm Best wishes, - " Manish " <manishkr67 Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:09 AM astrological advice | Dear respected astrologers in the forum: | | I am new to astrology. I am told that my dasa is about to change. I am | curious to find out the impact of the change on personal, financial and | professional aspects of my life, particularly any potential positive | changes to my career. | | I will be thankful if anyone among you could kindly give a look to my | chart and advice. | | regards, | | MK | | Date of Birth 20 Jan 1967, Time 23:10 | Place Muzaffarpur, Bihar, India | | | | | | - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & amp; communities. Links | | | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Dear Choudhryji: Thank you so very much for your advice. About the remedies, I find that peforming them is easy in India but not in other countries. Are there alternatives that may be easier for persons residing outside India? I am keen to take up remedial actions. Also, I request more about your kind opinion on the jupiter in my chart. As I understand it is exalted in 11th but retrograde too. Some astrologer hold the opinion that retrograde is good while others believe it is not. A few say it is not good when retrograde for exalted conditions. Still others do not add much emphasis to retrograde planets, believing that its overall impact is ususally low. What is your valuable opinion on this aspect following the Systems approach(which, as I understand, excellently reconciles contradicting theories)? Thanks again and regards, Manish > > Hello Manish, > > Your Jupiter dasa is starting from 19th July, 2007, and it is likely to be > comparatively better on all front. Your Moon, Jupiter and Mercury are weak > and strengthening them can improve the results further for you. For your > functional malefic planets you can do propitiatory remedies as per > http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/virgoar.htm > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " Manish " <manishkr67 > > Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:09 AM > astrological advice > > > | Dear respected astrologers in the forum: > | > | I am new to astrology. I am told that my dasa is about to change. I am > | curious to find out the impact of the change on personal, financial and > | professional aspects of my life, particularly any potential positive > | changes to my career. > | > | I will be thankful if anyone among you could kindly give a look to my > | chart and advice. > | > | regards, > | > | MK > | > | Date of Birth 20 Jan 1967, Time 23:10 > | Place Muzaffarpur, Bihar, India > | > | > | > | > | > | - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & amp; communities. > Links > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hello Manish, For alternate remedial measures you can read more on my website. I have no time to comment on the opinion of astrologers who are not following SA. If you want improvement then following the suggested remedies may help you. Despite exalted position your Jupiter is weak as it is exactly under the affliction of the functional malefic Sun and its dispositor Moon is weak. Best wishes, - " Manish " <manishkr67 Saturday, February 24, 2007 8:24 AM Re: astrological advice | Dear Choudhryji: | | Thank you so very much for your advice. About the remedies, I find | that peforming them is easy in India but not in other countries. Are | there alternatives that may be easier for persons residing outside | India? I am keen to take up remedial actions. | | Also, I request more about your kind opinion on the jupiter in my | chart. As I understand it is exalted in 11th but retrograde too. Some | astrologer hold the opinion that retrograde is good while others | believe it is not. A few say it is not good when retrograde for | exalted conditions. Still others do not add much emphasis to | retrograde planets, believing that its overall impact is ususally | low. | | What is your valuable opinion on this aspect following the Systems | approach(which, as I understand, excellently reconciles contradicting | theories)? | | Thanks again and regards, | | Manish | | | > | > Hello Manish, | > | > Your Jupiter dasa is starting from 19th July, 2007, and it is | likely to be | > comparatively better on all front. Your Moon, Jupiter and Mercury | are weak | > and strengthening them can improve the results further for you. | For your | > functional malefic planets you can do propitiatory remedies as per | > http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/virgoar.htm | > | > Best wishes, | > | > | > | > - | > " Manish " <manishkr67 | > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:09 AM | > astrological advice | > | > | > | Dear respected astrologers in the forum: | > | | > | I am new to astrology. I am told that my dasa is about to change. | I am | > | curious to find out the impact of the change on personal, | financial and | > | professional aspects of my life, particularly any potential | positive | > | changes to my career. | > | | > | I will be thankful if anyone among you could kindly give a look | to my | > | chart and advice. | > | | > | regards, | > | | > | MK | > | | > | Date of Birth 20 Jan 1967, Time 23:10 | > | Place Muzaffarpur, Bihar, India | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & amp; | communities. | > Links | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | | | | | | - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & amp; communities. Links | | | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 it seems dificult till 10 march 2008, chant visnu sahastranama 11 times daily in mor. offer 21 tulsi patra to lord vishnu daily in mor , except sunday. , " harinam_2000 " <harinam_2000 wrote: > > We have been married for abt 4 years and last few months we > have been trying hard for a baby but with no success. When would a > child be born to us in the future? Is there a need for any > remedial measures in this regards to speeden up conception of child? > > Our details are as follows: > My date of birth is 17 April 1972 and birth timing is 10:49 am > Singapore timing and born in Singapore. Latitude and longitude of > singapore are > 1 14N 103 55 E > respectively.Day Light Saving Time: On permanent DST ( UTC+8 at > UTC+7 longitude) > > > My wife's date of birth is 19 Jan 1974 and birth timing is 10:30 am > Ukrainian timing and born in Rovno, Ukraine. Latitude and longitude > of rovno are > 50.40N 26.10E > Daylight Saving Time difference compared to UTC/GMT is +3 hours. > Daylight Saving Time begins on Sunday, March 25 and ends on Sunday, > October 28. The rest of the year is on Standard Time. > > regards > mk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 // I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this forum has > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. // Every one is free here. Who said that they are not free ? they are not small children. they do not need any teachings. then why are they given this lecture ? They are all sensible people. Then why are they showed this intelligence out of place? Who catches the Queries addrssed to another astrologer ? This homework should be done before you speak like this.Last weeks enquiries if You check you will come to know that most of the enquiries addressed to Bhaskar were replied by another astrologer whom you support. Then where did your advice go ? Why did you not appear ? In my case it will be difficult for you to point out even 3 replies I may have made to enquiries addressed to another astrologer but I having replied them. The seeker is quite smart enough. he does not need these advices you just made. Please leave this Forum alone and do not spoil it. Bhaskar. , " roopak.rastogi " <roopak.rastogi wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this forum has > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. Similarly the > astrologers should be free to give advice to any one they choose. > > Leave it to the seeker who he finally chooses to listen to. > > Sincerely. > > Roopak > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Roopak, // My message was neither addressed to Mr. Bhaskar, nor mentions > his name any where.// You think that the Moderator is a fool here, who does not know about whom you were referring to, in Your mail. You think that the readers are smart enough to understand the intent, but the Moderator is not. You think that the astrologers who charge money are frauds and not respectable, while the others who do not charge are respectable, but you cannot vouch for their respctability with bread and butter to fill their stomaches. You think that the astrologers are being curbed in this forum which is why you advise them that they should be free to answer anyone they like. You think that the seekers here are not allowed to seek 'advices from the astrologers they want which is why you are advising that they must be free to do so. You think that Bhaskar is " Psychic " " Sick " and " Fraud " without any provocations and without any support of logical inferences, when you make this statement. You think so much. But what should we think ? Are You a man or a women ? Are you a real identity or a fake one ? Are you the owner of this Forum To advise so much ? Or are You a Judge ? Please introduce yourself - Real Name. place of residenc. phone number. Academic qualifications. Professional achievemnets if any. Age. Marital status. Your other e mail ids. Contribution to astrology, or society, if any. Then Talk. Bhaskar. , " roopak.rastogi " <roopak.rastogi wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this forum has > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. Similarly the > astrologers should be free to give advice to any one they choose. > > Leave it to the seeker who he finally chooses to listen to. > > Sincerely. > > Roopak > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Dear Roopak Rastogi, I am assuming that you are talking ONLY about this Jyotish_remedies forum in your message quoted below? Only the Owner and Moderator can lay down the definitive guidelines and boundaries about what the rights and expectations are for the seekers of readings. I think, though, that when someone asks for a free reading, they relinquish the rights to dictate the terms under which they will be given the readings or answers to their queries! They are beggars and not choosers, tersely stated! You see, not all astro-queries are innocent and posted by genuine seekers on internet. It is a reality and like it or not, real as experienced by most jyotishis who post responses to such requests and other jyotish-related questions, no matter how innocent and genuine- sounding! Jyotish has been strife with controversies and politics and attacks, private and public and much turmoil since early nineties even by the lofty and respected all over the globe! The negativity and backbiting and frustrations were not new or unprecedented but what brought them to the fore and to common knowledge was internet and the transparency and transparent sharing that it brought to the world! But sad to note and tersely -- beggars still reamin beggars and not choosers! What elevates them really is the desperation of the providers who offer them the alms, out of a sense of competition which makes those beggars as well! Or something like that! It is a misconception on internet that jyotishis that give free readings are really doing that to drum up business or to fix or resolve their karma or whatever! The ONLY way anyone will know that really would be to embrace JYOTISH, become a jyotishi and then look at their life and motives as to why they serve Mother Jyotish! Those who have realized that and know it have demonstrated amply and oftentimes! RR , " roopak.rastogi " <roopak.rastogi wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this forum has > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. Similarly the > astrologers should be free to give advice to any one they choose. > > Leave it to the seeker who he finally chooses to listen to. > > Sincerely. > > Roopak > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Dear Rohiniranjan ji, I am afraid I cannot agree with you. Every seeker who comes to this forum or other Jyotish forums is a person who will pay for the services if he gets some one genuine to give him advice. By genuine I mean some one who is well versed in astrology, some one who has not taken to astrology simply because he wasn’t good in any thing else. Most of the astrologers are people who could not make a grade in life in any professional field. They read a few pavement books and took to astrology. They didn’t have to go through any structured courses, nor had to work hard to obtain a degree like most of the professionally successful people have to do otherwise. Seekers are NOT free loaders. Therefore they are not beggars. They are the potential customers in the market. Even the astrologers perceive them as potential customers. If that were not so, then why all this acrimony, why all this talk of ‘stealing clients’; why all this game of one-up-manship; why all this bad blood. If a seeker was not perceived as a potential client then why should one care whom he seeks advice from or who jumps the queue to give him advice. It is a typical competitive market behavior; so let it be. Why put blinkers and refuse to accept it. This is the reality. You may accept it or not. It was in this context I had said that every seeker has a right to consult more than one astrologer in the group, similarly every astrologer has a right to offer his advice to a seeker. This will be a perfectly justified market ethics. This should not be construed as ‘stealing a client’. I am not an astrologer. I am some one who has great respect for the subject. I also have great respect for well meaning, humble and learned astrologers. But I hate professional astrologers who pretend to be doing a charitable act by giving free advice, where as in fact it is a free sample of what they have to offer. Respectfully, Roopak , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Roopak Rastogi, > > I am assuming that you are talking ONLY about this Jyotish_remedies > forum in your message quoted below? > > Only the Owner and Moderator can lay down the definitive guidelines and > boundaries about what the rights and expectations are for the seekers > of readings. > > I think, though, that when someone asks for a free reading, they > relinquish the rights to dictate the terms under which they will be > given the readings or answers to their queries! They are beggars and > not choosers, tersely stated! > > You see, not all astro-queries are innocent and posted by genuine > seekers on internet. It is a reality and like it or not, real as > experienced by most jyotishis who post responses to such requests and > other jyotish-related questions, no matter how innocent and genuine- > sounding! > > Jyotish has been strife with controversies and politics and attacks, > private and public and much turmoil since early nineties even by the > lofty and respected all over the globe! > > The negativity and backbiting and frustrations were not new or > unprecedented but what brought them to the fore and to common knowledge > was internet and the transparency and transparent sharing that it > brought to the world! > > But sad to note and tersely -- beggars still reamin beggars and not > choosers! > > What elevates them really is the desperation of the providers who offer > them the alms, out of a sense of competition which makes those beggars > as well! Or something like that! > > It is a misconception on internet that jyotishis that give free > readings are really doing that to drum up business or to fix or resolve > their karma or whatever! > > The ONLY way anyone will know that really would be to embrace JYOTISH, > become a jyotishi and then look at their life and motives as to why > they serve Mother Jyotish! > > Those who have realized that and know it have demonstrated amply and > oftentimes! > > > RR > > > > , " roopak.rastogi " > <roopak.rastogi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this forum > has > > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. Similarly the > > astrologers should be free to give advice to any one they choose. > > > > Leave it to the seeker who he finally chooses to listen to. > > > > Sincerely. > > > > Roopak > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Dear Roopak ji, I agree with what you have said. Seekers are neither freeloaders not beggars. They can be and should be choosers. Those astrologers who think that the seekers are beggars or freeloaders need not respond to their requests. On the other hand only those astrologers should respond to their request who respect the seekers as some one who will be willing to pay for their services. In this way there will be a mutual respect between the seeker and the provider. yours, Girish Raheja , " roopak.rastogi " <roopak.rastogi wrote: > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > I am afraid I cannot agree with you. > > Every seeker who comes to this forum or other Jyotish forums is a > person who will pay for the services if he gets some one genuine to > give him advice. > > By genuine I mean some one who is well versed in astrology, some one > who has not taken to astrology simply because he wasn’t good in any > thing else. Most of the astrologers are people who could not make a > grade in life in any professional field. They read a few pavement > books and took to astrology. They didn’t have to go through any > structured courses, nor had to work hard to obtain a degree like most > of the professionally successful people have to do otherwise. > > Seekers are NOT free loaders. Therefore they are not beggars. > > They are the potential customers in the market. Even the astrologers > perceive them as potential customers. If that were not so, then why > all this acrimony, why all this talk of ‘stealing clients’; why all > this game of one-up-manship; why all this bad blood. If a seeker was > not perceived as a potential client then why should one care whom he > seeks advice from or who jumps the queue to give him advice. > > It is a typical competitive market behavior; so let it be. Why put > blinkers and refuse to accept it. > > This is the reality. You may accept it or not. > > It was in this context I had said that every seeker has a right to > consult more than one astrologer in the group, similarly every > astrologer has a right to offer his advice to a seeker. This will be > a perfectly justified market ethics. This should not be construed > as ‘stealing a client’. > > I am not an astrologer. I am some one who has great respect for the > subject. I also have great respect for well meaning, humble and > learned astrologers. But I hate professional astrologers who pretend > to be doing a charitable act by giving free advice, where as in fact > it is a free sample of what they have to offer. > > Respectfully, > > Roopak > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Roopak Rastogi, > > > > I am assuming that you are talking ONLY about this Jyotish_remedies > > forum in your message quoted below? > > > > Only the Owner and Moderator can lay down the definitive guidelines > and > > boundaries about what the rights and expectations are for the > seekers > > of readings. > > > > I think, though, that when someone asks for a free reading, they > > relinquish the rights to dictate the terms under which they will be > > given the readings or answers to their queries! They are beggars > and > > not choosers, tersely stated! > > > > You see, not all astro-queries are innocent and posted by genuine > > seekers on internet. It is a reality and like it or not, real as > > experienced by most jyotishis who post responses to such requests > and > > other jyotish-related questions, no matter how innocent and genuine- > > sounding! > > > > Jyotish has been strife with controversies and politics and > attacks, > > private and public and much turmoil since early nineties even by > the > > lofty and respected all over the globe! > > > > The negativity and backbiting and frustrations were not new or > > unprecedented but what brought them to the fore and to common > knowledge > > was internet and the transparency and transparent sharing that it > > brought to the world! > > > > But sad to note and tersely -- beggars still reamin beggars and not > > choosers! > > > > What elevates them really is the desperation of the providers who > offer > > them the alms, out of a sense of competition which makes those > beggars > > as well! Or something like that! > > > > It is a misconception on internet that jyotishis that give free > > readings are really doing that to drum up business or to fix or > resolve > > their karma or whatever! > > > > The ONLY way anyone will know that really would be to embrace > JYOTISH, > > become a jyotishi and then look at their life and motives as to why > > they serve Mother Jyotish! > > > > Those who have realized that and know it have demonstrated amply > and > > oftentimes! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " roopak.rastogi " > > <roopak.rastogi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this > forum > > has > > > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. Similarly > the > > > astrologers should be free to give advice to any one they choose. > > > > > > Leave it to the seeker who he finally chooses to listen to. > > > > > > Sincerely. > > > > > > Roopak > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Dear Anuj RR, As a lover of NAGA JOLOKI aka NAGA MORICH, I would put your gem of a reply at par with NJ . JR Is a place like ER. You can't choose as to who is going to treat you. Any doc on duty will take care of you. So " Sarvottam " ....super sarvottam for your reply. Dada Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Dear Roopak Rastogi, I am assuming that you are talking ONLY about this Jyotish_remedies forum in your message quoted below? Only the Owner and Moderator can lay down the definitive guidelines and boundaries about what the rights and expectations are for the seekers of readings. I think, though, that when someone asks for a free reading, they relinquish the rights to dictate the terms under which they will be given the readings or answers to their queries! They are beggars and not choosers, tersely stated! You see, not all astro-queries are innocent and posted by genuine seekers on internet. It is a reality and like it or not, real as experienced by most jyotishis who post responses to such requests and other jyotish-related questions, no matter how innocent and genuine- sounding! Jyotish has been strife with controversies and politics and attacks, private and public and much turmoil since early nineties even by the lofty and respected all over the globe! The negativity and backbiting and frustrations were not new or unprecedented but what brought them to the fore and to common knowledge was internet and the transparency and transparent sharing that it brought to the world! But sad to note and tersely -- beggars still reamin beggars and not choosers! What elevates them really is the desperation of the providers who offer them the alms, out of a sense of competition which makes those beggars as well! Or something like that! It is a misconception on internet that jyotishis that give free readings are really doing that to drum up business or to fix or resolve their karma or whatever! The ONLY way anyone will know that really would be to embrace JYOTISH, become a jyotishi and then look at their life and motives as to why they serve Mother Jyotish! Those who have realized that and know it have demonstrated amply and oftentimes! RR , " roopak.rastogi " <roopak.rastogi wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this forum has > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. Similarly the > astrologers should be free to give advice to any one they choose. > > Leave it to the seeker who he finally chooses to listen to. > > Sincerely. > > Roopak > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Roopak, I fully respect your position and understanding in this matter. Please do not feel that I was " beating up " ONLY on the reading seekers who obviously are not a homogeneous cohort and range widely. I am fully aware of that, please trust my when I say that. I was also talking about *astrologers* in the later paras (5th and 6th onwards) and their variety of reasons for giving free readings etc. None of us (certainly not the astrologers and also the reading seekers for what it is worth!) are mahatmas as I recently stated and reiterate again, since my posting may have been misunderstood and taken wrongly. This is the bottom-line as I see it. On this forum and elsewhere in similar surroundings -- both the providers and seekers obviously need one another! And perhaps the Providers need the seekers more than vice versa, truth be told :-) For while I see more variety amongst the reading seekers, I see the same or similar astrologers eagerly taking part in this ER setting as Tattvamasi ji portrayed, and giving out readings :-) Using a real-estate term, it seems to be the buyer's market in Jyotish! RR , " roopak.rastogi " <roopak.rastogi wrote: > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > I am afraid I cannot agree with you. > > Every seeker who comes to this forum or other Jyotish forums is a > person who will pay for the services if he gets some one genuine to > give him advice. > > By genuine I mean some one who is well versed in astrology, some one > who has not taken to astrology simply because he wasn’t good in any > thing else. Most of the astrologers are people who could not make a > grade in life in any professional field. They read a few pavement > books and took to astrology. They didn’t have to go through any > structured courses, nor had to work hard to obtain a degree like most > of the professionally successful people have to do otherwise. > > Seekers are NOT free loaders. Therefore they are not beggars. > > They are the potential customers in the market. Even the astrologers > perceive them as potential customers. If that were not so, then why > all this acrimony, why all this talk of ‘stealing clients’; why all > this game of one-up-manship; why all this bad blood. If a seeker was > not perceived as a potential client then why should one care whom he > seeks advice from or who jumps the queue to give him advice. > > It is a typical competitive market behavior; so let it be. Why put > blinkers and refuse to accept it. > > This is the reality. You may accept it or not. > > It was in this context I had said that every seeker has a right to > consult more than one astrologer in the group, similarly every > astrologer has a right to offer his advice to a seeker. This will be > a perfectly justified market ethics. This should not be construed > as ‘stealing a client’. > > I am not an astrologer. I am some one who has great respect for the > subject. I also have great respect for well meaning, humble and > learned astrologers. But I hate professional astrologers who pretend > to be doing a charitable act by giving free advice, where as in fact > it is a free sample of what they have to offer. > > Respectfully, > > Roopak > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Roopak Rastogi, > > > > I am assuming that you are talking ONLY about this Jyotish_remedies > > forum in your message quoted below? > > > > Only the Owner and Moderator can lay down the definitive guidelines > and > > boundaries about what the rights and expectations are for the > seekers > > of readings. > > > > I think, though, that when someone asks for a free reading, they > > relinquish the rights to dictate the terms under which they will be > > given the readings or answers to their queries! They are beggars > and > > not choosers, tersely stated! > > > > You see, not all astro-queries are innocent and posted by genuine > > seekers on internet. It is a reality and like it or not, real as > > experienced by most jyotishis who post responses to such requests > and > > other jyotish-related questions, no matter how innocent and genuine- > > sounding! > > > > Jyotish has been strife with controversies and politics and > attacks, > > private and public and much turmoil since early nineties even by > the > > lofty and respected all over the globe! > > > > The negativity and backbiting and frustrations were not new or > > unprecedented but what brought them to the fore and to common > knowledge > > was internet and the transparency and transparent sharing that it > > brought to the world! > > > > But sad to note and tersely -- beggars still reamin beggars and not > > choosers! > > > > What elevates them really is the desperation of the providers who > offer > > them the alms, out of a sense of competition which makes those > beggars > > as well! Or something like that! > > > > It is a misconception on internet that jyotishis that give free > > readings are really doing that to drum up business or to fix or > resolve > > their karma or whatever! > > > > The ONLY way anyone will know that really would be to embrace > JYOTISH, > > become a jyotishi and then look at their life and motives as to why > > they serve Mother Jyotish! > > > > Those who have realized that and know it have demonstrated amply > and > > oftentimes! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " roopak.rastogi " > > <roopak.rastogi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this > forum > > has > > > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. Similarly > the > > > astrologers should be free to give advice to any one they choose. > > > > > > Leave it to the seeker who he finally chooses to listen to. > > > > > > Sincerely. > > > > > > Roopak > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Respected Rohiniranjan ji, Thank you sir, You have summerised the situation beautifully: " This is the bottom-line as I see it. On this forum and elsewhere in similar surroundings -- both the providers and seekers obviously need one another! And perhaps the Providers need the seekers more than vice versa, truth be told :-) " With great respect, Roopak , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Roopak, > > I fully respect your position and understanding in this matter. > > Please do not feel that I was " beating up " ONLY on the reading > seekers who obviously are not a homogeneous cohort and range widely. > I am fully aware of that, please trust my when I say that. > > I was also talking about *astrologers* in the later paras (5th and > 6th onwards) and their variety of reasons for giving free readings > etc. > > None of us (certainly not the astrologers and also the reading > seekers for what it is worth!) are mahatmas as I recently stated and > reiterate again, since my posting may have been misunderstood and > taken wrongly. > > This is the bottom-line as I see it. On this forum and elsewhere in > similar surroundings -- both the providers and seekers obviously need > one another! And perhaps the Providers need the seekers more than > vice versa, truth be told :-) > > For while I see more variety amongst the reading seekers, I see the > same or similar astrologers eagerly taking part in this ER setting as > Tattvamasi ji portrayed, and giving out readings :-) > > Using a real-estate term, it seems to be the buyer's market in > Jyotish! > > RR > > , " roopak.rastogi " > <roopak.rastogi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > > > I am afraid I cannot agree with you. > > > > Every seeker who comes to this forum or other Jyotish forums is a > > person who will pay for the services if he gets some one genuine to > > give him advice. > > > > By genuine I mean some one who is well versed in astrology, some > one > > who has not taken to astrology simply because he wasn’t good in > any > > thing else. Most of the astrologers are people who could not make a > > grade in life in any professional field. They read a few pavement > > books and took to astrology. They didn’t have to go through any > > structured courses, nor had to work hard to obtain a degree like > most > > of the professionally successful people have to do otherwise. > > > > Seekers are NOT free loaders. Therefore they are not beggars. > > > > They are the potential customers in the market. Even the > astrologers > > perceive them as potential customers. If that were not so, then why > > all this acrimony, why all this talk of ‘stealing clients’; why > all > > this game of one-up-manship; why all this bad blood. If a seeker > was > > not perceived as a potential client then why should one care whom > he > > seeks advice from or who jumps the queue to give him advice. > > > > It is a typical competitive market behavior; so let it be. Why put > > blinkers and refuse to accept it. > > > > This is the reality. You may accept it or not. > > > > It was in this context I had said that every seeker has a right to > > consult more than one astrologer in the group, similarly every > > astrologer has a right to offer his advice to a seeker. This will > be > > a perfectly justified market ethics. This should not be construed > > as ‘stealing a client’. > > > > I am not an astrologer. I am some one who has great respect for the > > subject. I also have great respect for well meaning, humble and > > learned astrologers. But I hate professional astrologers who > pretend > > to be doing a charitable act by giving free advice, where as in > fact > > it is a free sample of what they have to offer. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Roopak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Roopak Rastogi, > > > > > > I am assuming that you are talking ONLY about this > Jyotish_remedies > > > forum in your message quoted below? > > > > > > Only the Owner and Moderator can lay down the definitive > guidelines > > and > > > boundaries about what the rights and expectations are for the > > seekers > > > of readings. > > > > > > I think, though, that when someone asks for a free reading, they > > > relinquish the rights to dictate the terms under which they will > be > > > given the readings or answers to their queries! They are beggars > > and > > > not choosers, tersely stated! > > > > > > You see, not all astro-queries are innocent and posted by genuine > > > seekers on internet. It is a reality and like it or not, real as > > > experienced by most jyotishis who post responses to such requests > > and > > > other jyotish-related questions, no matter how innocent and > genuine- > > > sounding! > > > > > > Jyotish has been strife with controversies and politics and > > attacks, > > > private and public and much turmoil since early nineties even by > > the > > > lofty and respected all over the globe! > > > > > > The negativity and backbiting and frustrations were not new or > > > unprecedented but what brought them to the fore and to common > > knowledge > > > was internet and the transparency and transparent sharing that it > > > brought to the world! > > > > > > But sad to note and tersely -- beggars still reamin beggars and > not > > > choosers! > > > > > > What elevates them really is the desperation of the providers who > > offer > > > them the alms, out of a sense of competition which makes those > > beggars > > > as well! Or something like that! > > > > > > It is a misconception on internet that jyotishis that give free > > > readings are really doing that to drum up business or to fix or > > resolve > > > their karma or whatever! > > > > > > The ONLY way anyone will know that really would be to embrace > > JYOTISH, > > > become a jyotishi and then look at their life and motives as to > why > > > they serve Mother Jyotish! > > > > > > Those who have realized that and know it have demonstrated amply > > and > > > oftentimes! > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " roopak.rastogi " > > > <roopak.rastogi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > I believe that any one who seeks astrological advice in this > > forum > > > has > > > > a right to choose who he wants to seek the advice from. > Similarly > > the > > > > astrologers should be free to give advice to any one they > choose. > > > > > > > > Leave it to the seeker who he finally chooses to listen to. > > > > > > > > Sincerely. > > > > > > > > Roopak > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Respected sirs, Is any body take my queries ? Request to look my queries plz. thanks Anurag vedic astrology , " anuarora60 " <anuarora60 wrote: > > Respected sirs, > > I am passing through worst period of my life. I feel very depressed.I do not have job, my wife has left me due to financial and other fundamental disagreements. And do not have money to sustain myself. > Birth details are : > DOB : 24th.,may 1959 > TOB : 23.50 hrs > POB : Kanpur , UP > My queries : > 1. When I will get job/business assignment in India/foreign country ? > I was initially working then started my own business out of country, but now out of work since 2002-03 and in India since then. > 2. Any chance of reconciliation with my wife/ second association ? > > Is there any ray of hope....!!!!! > Regards, > Anurag Arora > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Dear Mr Aurora //1. When I will get job/business assignment in India/foreign country ? I was initially working then started my own business out of country, but now out of work since 2002-03 and in India since then.// Ur rahu maha dasha started in 2003 which made u loose money in business & hence it also made u return to ur home town. //2. Any chance of reconciliation with my wife/ second association ?// Their is a strong divorce yog in ur chart with ur 7th house totally afflicted. // Is there any ray of hope....!!!! !// Shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/sani/mangal/surya should help. Wearing od pearl(moti) gemstone will give some relaxation to ur mind. Business will always give u losses, working in any organisation will be better. Ur chart does not favours business, hence u lost money & business when ur rahu MD started. Till u work on yagyas do the following remedies. Ur time period till aug 2021 is very bad, but u will see some relief from aug 2011 for 2 yrs. Remedies for Rahu · Chant this mantra everyday at least 4 to 5 rounds (1 round = 108) OHM RHAM RAHAVEH NAMAH: on any chanting bead. If u do not have any chanting bead chant by counting on your fingers. · Fast on every Saturday · Offer mustard oil to Rahu Deity or light a Deepak in mustard oil & keep it below any peeple tree every Saturday. · Avoid all blue clothes & blue things like shoes, wallets, belts, cap/hat, clothes · Do not eat meat or have liquor on every Saturday Remedies for Sani Antar Dasha · Chant this mantra everyday at least 4 to 5 rounds (1 round = 108) OHM SHAM SANESHCHARAYA NAMAH: on any chanting bead. If u do not have any chanting bead chant by counting on your fingers. · Fast on every Saturday · Offer mustard oil to Sani Deity or light a Deepak in mustard oil & keep it below any peeple tree every Saturday. · Avoid all black clothes & black things like shoes, wallets, belts, cap/hat · Do not eat meat or have liquor on every Saturday HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +919867214103 ________________________________ anuarora60 <anuarora60 vedic astrology Friday, 13 March, 2009 9:12:58 AM [vedic astrology] Re: astrological advice Respected sirs, Is any body take my queries ? Request to look my queries plz. thanks Anurag vedic astrology, " anuarora60 " <anuarora60@ ...> wrote: > > Respected sirs, > > I am passing through worst period of my life. I feel very depressed.I do not have job, my wife has left me due to financial and other fundamental disagreements. And do not have money to sustain myself. > Birth details are : > DOB : 24th.,may 1959 > TOB : 23.50 hrs > POB : Kanpur , UP > My queries : > 1. When I will get job/business assignment in India/foreign country ? > I was initially working then started my own business out of country, but now out of work since 2002-03 and in India since then. > 2. Any chance of reconciliation with my wife/ second association ? > > Is there any ray of hope....!!!! ! > Regards, > Anurag Arora > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 my date of birth 20.10.1956, time 10.30 am , place SAGAR MP. I WISH TO KNOW WHAT ARE MY FAVOURABLE AND NON FAVOURABLE STAR . CAN U PLZ HELP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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