Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Naresh ji,Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and should not be.ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility in this? Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath...ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bolandhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol ke usse aankh lada mitrasamay se haath mila mitrake ho jaa kiran kiran mitrake chalta rahe chalan mitrajeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaamBest regardsNeelam 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying to give my interpretation for it: Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan ne hame sikhaya hai. Will someone like to add to this? Naresh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were suffering from endless depression...sick & unwanted...whom their relations had discarded...some of whom she had picked up from garbage heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages....]SO  IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, eeshwar,allah,bhagwan....vaheguru...jesus..But as we all know of course their is a definite difference between GOD and his representatives...jesus said he was THE SON OF GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha..lord mahavira..sainaath all are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't you think so?--- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Life is life, fight for it Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM Dear Naresh ji,Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and should not be.ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility in this? Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath...ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bolandhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol ke usse aankh lada mitrasamay se haath mila mitrake ho jaa kiran kiran mitrake chalta rahe chalan mitrajeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaamBest regardsNeelam 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying to give my interpretation for it:  Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan ne hame sikhaya hai.  Will someone like to add to this?  Naresh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish to subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was hapenning actually. Period. Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and then come back with details. You will be surprised at the disclosures. regards/Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote: > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were suffering from endless depression...sick & unwanted...whom their relations had discarded...some of whom she had picked up from garbage heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages....]SO  IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, eeshwar,allah,bhagwan....vaheguru...jesus..But as we all know of course their is a definite difference > between GOD and his representatives...jesus said he was THE SON OF GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha..lord mahavira..sainaath all are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't you think so? > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07 wrote: > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and should not be. > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility in this? > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > samay se haath mila mitra > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > Best regards > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying to give my interpretation for it: >  > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan ne hame sikhaya hai. > >  > Will someone like to add to this? >  > Naresh > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 I get it sir ,,joining this group has definitely added a lot to my knowledge and understanding...--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Life is life, fight for it Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 5:24 AM // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...whenshe picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were leftthere by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .//There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to themedia propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish tosubjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically,is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries,rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormantvolcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associatedwith a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what washapenning actually. Period.Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom andcome back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers withlargest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, andthen come back with details.You will be surprised at the disclosures.regards/Bhaskar., kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ...>wrote:>> maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she wassaying this to  those people who had lost all hope and weresuffering from endless depression.. .sick & unwanted...whom theirrelations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from garbageheaps....and as for the question of serving only the christianpeople...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..whowere left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhattheir religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..shewas a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything iswrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mangois a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMBOR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO ÂIS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik,eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know of coursetheir is a definite difference> between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OFGOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath allare representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HIFOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUEDEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don'tyou think so?>> --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... wrote:> neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...> Re: Life is life, fight for it> > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Naresh ji,>> Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, andshould not be.>> ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye.>> par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin,sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at themost say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koifight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humilityin this?>>> Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar miltihai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaatehain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar...jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein.>>> Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalteraho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath...>> ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol> andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol>> ke usse aankh lada mitra> samay se haath mila mitra> ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra> ke chalta rahe chalan mitra> jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam>> Best regards> Neelam>>>>>> 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m tryingto give my interpretation for it:> Â> Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara maukanahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liyehi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwanne hame sikhaya hai.>> Â> Will someone like to add to this?> Â> Naresh>> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Bhakar SirVery true.These christian missionaries dont leave any one - they try to convert every possible person they can and so has been happening in tribal belts of madhya pradesh which VHP has been able to stop a bit .this is based on news paper reports few years back.i dont have the details but the jist i remembered.My own friend who is a christian-when i was in a lot of a mess-told me to get baptised-and he gave me an address of some father in bombey near andheri to visit for some remedies-when i was going to bombay and that father started straight away telling stupid things -i dont want to discuss here.i just came back from that place and never visited again.no point in further elongating it.what is the logic behind these idiotic acts i am still not able to fathom.if lallulal becomes larry or liyakat he will still be the same person with same social position and sorroundings,will have the same type of blood height and weight.warm regardssiddhartha This mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotishTo: Sent: Saturday, 7 March, 2009 3:54:53 PM Re: Life is life, fight for it // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish to subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was hapenning actually. Period. Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and then come back with details. You will be surprised at the disclosures. regards/Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ...> wrote: > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were suffering from endless depression.. .sick & unwanted...whom their relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from garbage heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO  IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know of course their is a definite difference > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OF GOD...i..e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath all are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't you think so? > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... wrote: > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and should not be. > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility in this? > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein.. > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > samay se haath mila mitra > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > Best regards > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying to give my interpretation for it: >  > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan ne hame sikhaya hai. > >  > Will someone like to add to this? >  > Naresh > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour of what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset. What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass media of which they are the commanders now. I am sure most of our members are unaware about this ghastly truth. Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/muslim organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the FCRA. You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for someone who has nothing to eat! With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some details for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and funded. I hope this will be an eye opener for them. NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain. Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat are sisters.India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned into Hindu bashing.CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.Times group list:Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, VijayaTimes, Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia Gandhi.Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontificial Church Melbourne.Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times Group.The Hindu:English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national.Indian Express: Divided into two groups.The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS Christian Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with the Indian counterpart.Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh.Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently.The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India.Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major investment.Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep Sardesai and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did very faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV whose near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reportedTarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab countries to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious.Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH.Sorry for a long mail.RegardsNeelam2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish to subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was hapenning actually. Period. Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and then come back with details. You will be surprised at the disclosures. regards/Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur wrote: > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were suffering from endless depression...sick & unwanted...whom their relations had discarded...some of whom she had picked up from garbage heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages....]SO  IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, eeshwar,allah,bhagwan....vaheguru...jesus..But as we all know of course their is a definite difference > between GOD and his representatives...jesus said he was THE SON OF GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha..lord mahavira..sainaath all are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't you think so? > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07 wrote: > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and should not be. > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility in this? > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > samay se haath mila mitra > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > Best regards > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying to give my interpretation for it: >  > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan ne hame sikhaya hai. > >  > Will someone like to add to this? >  > Naresh > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Respected Madam NeelamjiThis was a real eye opener.i always thought that atleast barkha dutt/rajdeep sardesai/pronnoy roy cant be purchased..Warm regardssiddhartha This mail is sent by siddhartha.neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Saturday, 7 March, 2009 4:54:38 PMRe: Re: Life is life, fight for it Dear Bhaskar ji,We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour of what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset. What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass media of which they are the commanders now. I am sure most of our members are unaware about this ghastly truth. Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the FCRA. You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for someone who has nothing to eat! With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some details for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and funded. I hope this will be an eye opener for them. NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain. Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat are sisters.India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned into Hindu bashing.CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.Times group list:Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, VijayaTimes, Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia Gandhi.Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontificial Church Melbourne.Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over.. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times Group.The Hindu:English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national.Indian Express: Divided into two groups.The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS Christian Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with the Indian counterpart.Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh.Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently.The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India.Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major investment.Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep Sardesai and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did very faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV whose near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reportedTarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab countries to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious.Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH.Sorry for a long mail.RegardsNeelam2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish to subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was hapenning actually. Period. Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and then come back with details. You will be surprised at the disclosures. regards/Bhaskar. , kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ...> wrote: > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were suffering from endless depression.. .sick & unwanted...whom their relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from garbage heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO  IS GOD...GOD IS GOD....whether we call him maalik, eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ...jesus.. But as we all know of course their is a definite difference > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OF GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath all are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't you think so? > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... wrote: > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem.. Life is not to fight, and should not be. > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility in this? > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > samay se haath mila mitra > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > Best regards > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying to give my interpretation for it: >  > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan ne hame sikhaya hai. > >  > Will someone like to add to this? >  > Naresh > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 >>You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for someone who has nothing to eat!>> You are right about the monetary incentive paid to converts and the media ownership. The Pastors/ Evangelical group that converts the tribal of SC/ others, get reimbursed over US$ 1000 per person so converted, onc the filled up form with the name and thumb impressions reaches them. Staines was one such beneficiary from World Vision in Brisbane, where I had the opportuniy to address a batch of fresh students selected to visit India under World Vision International "Charity"!! --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 4:54 PM Dear Bhaskar ji,We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour of what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset. What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass media of which they are the commanders now. I am sure most of our members are unaware about this ghastly truth. Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the FCRA. You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for someone who has nothing to eat!With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some details for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and funded. I hope this will be an eye opener for them.NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain. Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat are sisters.India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned into Hindu bashing.CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.Times group list:Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, VijayaTimes, Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia Gandhi.Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontificial Church Melbourne.Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times Group.The Hindu:English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national.Indian Express: Divided into two groups.The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS Christian Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with the Indian counterpart.Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh.Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently.The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India.Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist)Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major investment.Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its Chief Editor M.J. Akbar.at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep Sardesai and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did very faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV whose near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reportedTarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab countries to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious.Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH.Sorry for a long mail.RegardsNeelam 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were leftthere by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .//There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to themedia propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish tosubjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically,is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries,rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormantvolcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associatedwith a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what washapenning actually. Period.Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom andcome back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers withlargest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, andthen come back with details.You will be surprised at the disclosures.regards/Bhaskar., kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ...>wrote: >> maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she wassaying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were suffering from endless depression.. .sick & unwanted...whom theirrelations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from garbageheaps....and as for the question of serving only the christianpeople...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..whowere left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhattheir religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..shewas a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mangois a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMBOR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO  IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik,eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know of coursetheir is a definite difference> between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OFGOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath allare representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HIFOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don'tyou think so?>> --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... wrote:> neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > Re: Life is life, fight for it> > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Naresh ji,>> Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, andshould not be.>> ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye.>> par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin,sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koifight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humilityin this?>>> Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar miltihai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaatehain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar...jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein.>>> Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalteraho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath...>> ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol> andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol>> ke usse aankh lada mitra> samay se haath mila mitra> ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra> ke chalta rahe chalan mitra> jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam>> Best regards> Neelam>>>>>> 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m tryingto give my interpretation for it:> Â> Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara maukanahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liyehi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwanne hame sikhaya hai.>> Â> Will someone like to add to this?> Â> Naresh>> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear neelamji, Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " as they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my early teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that they talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in some company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much time, nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i did what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " Womens Era " . Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour of > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset.* > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass media of > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members are > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/muslim > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the FCRA. > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for > someone who has nothing to eat! > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some details > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and funded. I > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain. > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat are > sisters. > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned > into Hindu bashing. > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > Times group list: > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, VijayaTimes, > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. Times > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia > Gandhi. > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times > Group. > > The Hindu: > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS Christian > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with > the Indian counterpart. > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh. > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major > investment. > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep Sardesai > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did very > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV whose > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab countries > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. > > Sorry for a long mail. > > Regards > Neelam 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish to > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and > > then come back with details. > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > <%40>, > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > suffering from endless depression...sick & unwanted...whom their > > relations had discarded...some of whom she had picked up from garbage > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages....]SO  > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > eeshwar,allah,bhagwan....vaheguru...jesus..But as we all know of course > > their is a definite difference > > > between GOD and his representatives...jesus said he was THE SON OF > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha..lord mahavira..sainaath all > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't > > you think so? > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > <%40> > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and > > should not be. > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility > > in this? > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > Best regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying > > to give my interpretation for it: > > >  > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > >  > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > >  > > > Naresh > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our homes and minds, the change has come very fast.Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? RegardsNeelam2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear neelamji, Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " as they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my early teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that they talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in some company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much time, nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i did what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " Womens Era " . Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour of > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset.* > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass media of > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members are > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/muslim > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the FCRA. > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for > someone who has nothing to eat! > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some details > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and funded. I > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain. > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat are > sisters. > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned > into Hindu bashing. > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > Times group list: > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, VijayaTimes, > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. Times > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia > Gandhi. > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times > Group. > > The Hindu: > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS Christian > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with > the Indian counterpart. > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh. > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major > investment. > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep Sardesai > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did very > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV whose > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab countries > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. > > Sorry for a long mail. > > Regards > Neelam 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish to > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and > > then come back with details. > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > <%40>, > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > suffering from endless depression...sick & unwanted...whom their > > relations had discarded...some of whom she had picked up from garbage > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages....]SO  > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > eeshwar,allah,bhagwan....vaheguru...jesus..But as we all know of course > > their is a definite difference > > > between GOD and his representatives...jesus said he was THE SON OF > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha..lord mahavira..sainaath all > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't > > you think so? > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > <%40> > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and > > should not be. > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility > > in this? > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > Best regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying > > to give my interpretation for it: > > >  > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > >  > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > >  > > > Naresh > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam ji when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are here to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our ancient books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever--- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our homes and minds, the change has come very fast.Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? RegardsNeelam2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear neelamji, Do You know about the "Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu "kuprathas" as they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my early teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that they talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in some company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka sawaaal hai". I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much time, nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i did what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " Womens Era". Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour of > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset.* > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass media of > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members are > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the FCRA. > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for > someone who has nothing to eat! > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some details > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and funded. I > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain. > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat are > sisters. > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned > into Hindu bashing. > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > Times group list: > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, VijayaTimes, > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. Times > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia > Gandhi. > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times > Group. > > The Hindu: > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS Christian > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with > the Indian counterpart. > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh. > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major > investment. > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep Sardesai > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did very > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV whose > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab countries > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. > > Sorry for a long mail. > > Regards > Neelam 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the > > media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish to > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and > > then come back with details. > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > <%40. com>, > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > suffering from endless depression.. .sick & unwanted...whom their > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from garbage > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO  > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know of course > > their is a definite difference > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OF > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath all > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't > > you think so? > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > <%40. com> > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and > > should not be. > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility > > in this? > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > Best regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying > > to give my interpretation for it: > > >  > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > >  > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > >  > > > Naresh > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan (eternal).Somebody will always be there to protect it.2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam ji when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are here to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our ancient books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our homes and minds, the change has come very fast. Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? RegardsNeelam2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear neelamji, Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " as they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my early teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that they talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in some company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much time, nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i did what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " Womens Era " . Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour of > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset.* > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass media of > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members are > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the FCRA. > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for > someone who has nothing to eat! > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some details > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and funded. I > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain. > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat are > sisters. > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned > into Hindu bashing. > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > Times group list: > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, VijayaTimes, > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. Times > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia > Gandhi. > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times > Group. > > The Hindu: > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS Christian > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with > the Indian counterpart. > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh. > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major > investment. > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep Sardesai > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did very > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV whose > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab countries > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. > > Sorry for a long mail. > > Regards > Neelam 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish to > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and > > then come back with details. > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > <%40. com>, > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > suffering from endless depression.. .sick & unwanted...whom their > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from garbage > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO  > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know of course > > their is a definite difference > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OF > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath all > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't > > you think so? > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > <%40. com> > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and > > should not be. > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility > > in this? > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > Best regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying > > to give my interpretation for it: > > >  > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > >  > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > >  > > > Naresh > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, Our culture and traditions may deteriorate...yet 'The Truth' will always remain the same. Hence the fortunate ones will still tread the right path, surpassing every obstacle on their way. Recently, a crook billionaire who embezzled money of those who invested in his vast range of banks etc. was arrested and remanded over an alleged fraud that caused the collapse of a credit card company he owned. He and his wife have been actively involved in converting poor Buddhists into Christianity by monetarily and materially aiding them. This is what we call " ditta dhamma vedaneeya kamma'...in the result of bad kamma is immediately felt. I too have heard about what Bhaskar ji has mentioned about Mother Teressa... Anyway, it is the duty of elders to show the right path to our children. blessings Renu , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of years > ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our homes and > minds, the change has come very fast. > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our background > and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. No one is now > studying it, no authentic search/research being carried out. Who will keep > the culture and tradition alive? > > Regards > Neelam > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " as > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my early > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that they > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in some > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much time, > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i did > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > Womens Era " . > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > <%40>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour > > of > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset.* > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass > > media of > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members are > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/muslim > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the > > FCRA. > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For > > each > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money > > for > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some > > details > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > funded. I > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in > > Spain. > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards > > Pakistan > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired > > in > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > General > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat > > are > > > sisters. > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported > > BJP is > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and > > turned > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with > > its > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > allocates > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > Times group list: > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > VijayaTimes, > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. > > Times > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of > > Sonia > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since > > Shobana > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times > > > Group. > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by > > Joshua > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > Christian > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still > > with > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > > Ramoji Rao > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > Pradesh. > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > major > > > investment. > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company > > with its > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > Sardesai > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did > > very > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV > > whose > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > countries > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE > > TRUTH. > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > people...when > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the > > > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish to > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > systematically, > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > Missionaries, > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > dormant > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom > > and > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, > > and > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > <%40> > > <%40>, > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she > > was > > > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > > > suffering from endless depression...sick & unwanted...whom their > > > > relations had discarded...some of whom she had picked up from > > garbage > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > roadsides..who > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her > > shelter..she > > > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think > > anything is > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A > > mango > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages....]SO > >  > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > eeshwar,allah,bhagwan....vaheguru...jesus..But as we all know of > > course > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > between GOD and his representatives...jesus said he was THE SON OF > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha..lord mahavira..sainaath > > all > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO > > HI > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE > > HUE > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > don't > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > <%40> > > <%40> > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, > > and > > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi > > nahin, > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya > > koi > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > humility > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > milti > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > jaate > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > baar... > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > chalte > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m > > trying > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > >  > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke > > liye > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > Bhagwan > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > >  > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Respected ALLeven i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end..i dont remember but in some religious magazine only. Warm regardssiddharthaThis mail is sent by siddhartha. neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PMRe: Re: Life is life, fight for it Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan (eternal).Somebody will always be there to protect it.2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam ji when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are here to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our ancient books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our homes and minds, the change has come very fast. Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? RegardsNeelam2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear neelamji, Do You know about the "Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu "kuprathas" as they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my early teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that they talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in some company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka sawaaal hai". I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much time, nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i did what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " Womens Era". Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour of > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset.* > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass media of > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members are > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the FCRA. > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For each > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money for > someone who has nothing to eat! > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some details > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and funded. I > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain. > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat are > sisters. > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned > into Hindu bashing. > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > Times group list: > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, VijayaTimes, > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. Times > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia > Gandhi. > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times > Group. > > The Hindu: > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS Christian > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with > the Indian counterpart. > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh. > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major > investment. > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar.. > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep Sardesai > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did very > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV whose > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab countries > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. > > Sorry for a long mail. > > Regards > Neelam 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian people...when > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the > > media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish to > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture systematically, > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the Missionaries, > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a dormant > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom and > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, and > > then come back with details. > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > <%40. com>, > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said.... fight for it ...because she was > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > suffering from endless depression.. .sick & unwanted...whom their > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from garbage > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her shelter..she > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think anything is > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A mango > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a MANGO,AAM,AMB > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO  > > IS GOD....GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know of course > > their is a definite difference > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OF > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath all > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO HI > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE HUE > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> don't > > you think so? > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > <%40. com> > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, and > > should not be. > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi jaye. > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi nahin, > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya koi > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and humility > > in this? > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar milti > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool jaate > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar baar... > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam chalte > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > Best regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m trying > > to give my interpretation for it: > > >  > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke liye > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki Bhagwan > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > >  > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > >  > > > Naresh > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Siddartha , Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the world. I have got other good things also to say, but not today. regards/Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote: > > Respected ALL > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont remember but in some religious magazine only. > > Warm regards > siddhartha > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ________________________________ > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan (eternal). > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam ji when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are here to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our ancient books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > Regards > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > Dear neelamji, > > Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " as > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my early > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that they > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in some > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much time, > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i did > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > Womens Era " . > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ....> > wrote: > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour > of > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset.* > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass > media of > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members are > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the > FCRA. > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For > each > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money > for > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some > details > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > funded. I > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in > Spain. > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards > Pakistan > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired > in > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > General > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat > are > > sisters. > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported > BJP is > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and > turned > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with > its > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > allocates > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > Times group list: > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > VijayaTimes, > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. > Times > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of > Sonia > > Gandhi. > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since > Shobana > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times > > Group. > > > > The Hindu: > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by > Joshua > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > Christian > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still > with > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > Ramoji Rao > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > Pradesh. > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > major > > investment. > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company > with its > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > Sardesai > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did > very > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV > whose > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > countries > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE > TRUTH. > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > people...when > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the > > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish to > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > systematically, > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > Missionaries, > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > dormant > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom > and > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, > and > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > <%40. com>, > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because she > was > > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > > suffering from endless depression... .sick & unwanted...whom their > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > garbage > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > roadsides..who > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her > shelter..she > > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think > anything is > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A > mango > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO >  > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know of > course > > > their is a definite difference > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OF > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath > all > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO > HI > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE > HUE > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > don't > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > <%40. com> > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, > and > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > jaye. > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi > nahin, > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya > koi > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > humility > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > milti > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > jaate > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > baar... > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > chalte > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m > trying > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > >  > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke > liye > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > Bhagwan > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > >  > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > >  > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Respected Bhaskar sirKya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega kya?aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo hai.kal india ka match bhi hai.just on a lighter note sir.aapka shishyasiddhartha This mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM Re: Life is life, fight for it Dear Siddartha , Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the world. I have got other good things also to say, but not today. regards/Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works > wrote: > > Respected ALL > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont remember but in some religious magazine only. > > Warm regards > siddhartha > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan (eternal). > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam ji when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are here to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our ancient books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > Regards > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > Dear neelamji, > > Do You know about the "Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu "kuprathas" as > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my early > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that they > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in some > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > sawaaal hai". I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much time, > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i did > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > Womens Era". > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ....> > wrote: > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but the > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and sweet > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in favour > of > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and mindset.* > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass > media of > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members are > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the > FCRA. > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. For > each > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of money > for > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some > details > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > funded. I > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in > Spain. > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards > Pakistan > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired > in > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > General > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat > are > > sisters. > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported > BJP is > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and > turned > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with > its > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > allocates > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > Times group list: > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > VijayaTimes, > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. > Times > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does 80 > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of > Sonia > > Gandhi. > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since > Shobana > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times > > Group. > > > > The Hindu: > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by > Joshua > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > Christian > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still > with > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > Ramoji Rao > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > Pradesh. > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > major > > investment. > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company > with its > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > Sardesai > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 Million > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they did > very > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV > whose > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > countries > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains the > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE > TRUTH. > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > people...when > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were left > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat their > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to the > > > media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish to > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > systematically, > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > Missionaries, > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > dormant > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was associated > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by whom > and > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers with > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, > and > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because she > was > > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted...whom their > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > garbage > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > roadsides..who > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her > shelter..she > > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think > anything is > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions..A > mango > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... .]SO >  > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know of > course > > > their is a definite difference > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON OF > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord mahavira..sainaath > all > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG USKO > HI > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW KARTE > HUE > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > don't > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, > and > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > jaye. > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi > nahin, > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ‘fight for it’ at the > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? Kya > koi > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > humility > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > milti > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > jaate > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > baar... > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > chalte > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m > trying > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > >  > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara mauka > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne ke > liye > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > Bhagwan > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > >  > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > >  > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Siddartha ji, Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will conjoin to crush this whole " kaum " and after that none will have the guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth. This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future. Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now. They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the bloody strength to rise again. Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote: > > Respected Bhaskar sir > > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega kya? > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo hai.kal india ka match bhi hai. > just on a lighter note sir. > > aapka shishya > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > Dear Siddartha , > > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. > > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the world. > > I have got other good things also to say, but not today. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > , siddhartha saxaena > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > Respected ALL > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont > remember but in some religious magazine only. > > > > Warm regards > > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan > (eternal). > > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam ji > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are here > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our ancient > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our > homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " as > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my > early > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that > they > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in > some > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much > time, > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i > did > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > Womens Era " . > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but > the > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and > sweet > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in > favour > > of > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and > mindset.* > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass > > media of > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members > are > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the > > FCRA. > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. > For > > each > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of > money > > for > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some > > details > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > funded. I > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity > in > > Spain.. > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards > > Pakistan > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired > > in > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > General > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat > > are > > > sisters. > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported > > BJP is > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and > > turned > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with > > its > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > allocates > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is > Rajdeep > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > Times group list: > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > VijayaTimes, > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. > > Times > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does > 80 > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally > share > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative > of > > Sonia > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since > > Shobana > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with > Times > > > Group. > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over > by > > Joshua > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > Christian > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is > still > > with > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > > Ramoji Rao > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > Pradesh. > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with > a > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > major > > > investment. > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company > > with its > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > Sardesai > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 > Million > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they > did > > very > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV > > whose > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > countries > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains > the > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE > > TRUTH. > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > people...when > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were > left > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > their > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to > the > > > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish to > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > systematically, > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > Missionaries, > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > dormant > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was > associated > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by > whom > > and > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers > with > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, > > and > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because > she > > was > > > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted....whom their > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > > garbage > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > roadsides..who > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask > theirwhat > > > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her > > shelter..she > > > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith..I don't think > > anything is > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions...A > > mango > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... ..]SO > >  > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know > of > > course > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON > OF > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord > mahavira..sainaath > > all > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG > USKO > > HI > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW > KARTE > > HUE > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > don't > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, > > and > > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi > > nahin, > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen â€ˊ" fight for > it’ at the > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? > Kya > > koi > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > humility > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > milti > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > jaate > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > baar... > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > chalte > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m > > trying > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > >  > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara > mauka > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne > ke > > liye > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > Bhagwan > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > >  > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Respected sir"Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par." Sir aap aisi bhasha ka prayog kyon karte hain jis se sirf aapki jeebh/tongue ya man keh lijeye -kharab hoti hai-To be very frank -maine aaj tak nahin bola - but i ABHOR MUSLIMS- lekin uske liye main apna muh kyon kharaab karoon?woh jo hain wo wohi rahenge -"shafiq bhai puncture ghisein hawa bhare taukeer" there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai.Mera bahut simple line of thought hai --aap(in general) mereko goli maroge fine 10 lak ko aur maaroge fine one day because of your own ill deeds you will be wiped out.sabhi jagah to log mar rahe hain .Afghanistan,srilanka,India,Iraq,Israel,serbia.All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin)yeh jo 10 bacche paida kare bolte hain "allah ki den hai" yehi den inko allah ke paas pahuncha degi.And i am sure jo aapne bola hai woh to hoke rahega.Aur hona chahiye.bahut ho gaya.Best regardssiddhartha This mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:45:00 PM Re: Life is life, fight for it Siddartha ji, Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will conjoin to crush this whole " kaum" and after that none will have the guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth. This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future.. Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now.. They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the bloody strength to rise again. Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works > wrote: > > Respected Bhaskar sir > > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega kya? > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo hai.kal india ka match bhi hai. > just on a lighter note sir. > > aapka shishya > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > Dear Siddartha , > > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. > > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the world. > > I have got other good things also to say, but not today. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > , siddhartha saxaena > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > Respected ALL > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont > remember but in some religious magazine only. > > > > Warm regards > > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan > (eternal). > > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam ji > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are here > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our ancient > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds of > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our > homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond recognition. > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > Do You know about the "Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of this > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu "kuprathas" as > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read it > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my > early > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that > they > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at least > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in > some > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers on > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > sawaaal hai". I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much > time, > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i > did > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > Womens Era". > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > @ .. com, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but > the > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and > sweet > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in > favour > > of > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and > mindset.* > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading mass > > media of > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members > are > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ muslim > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under the > > FCRA. > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. > For > > each > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of > money > > for > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting some > > details > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > funded. I > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity > in > > Spain.. > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards > > Pakistan > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired > > in > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > General > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda Karat > > are > > > sisters. > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who supported > > BJP is > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and > > turned > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with > > its > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > allocates > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is > Rajdeep > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > Times group list: > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > VijayaTimes, > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more.. > > Times > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does > 80 > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally > share > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative > of > > Sonia > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since > > Shobana > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with > Times > > > Group. > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over > by > > Joshua > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > Christian > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is > still > > with > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > > Ramoji Rao > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > Pradesh. > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with > a > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > major > > > investment. > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company > > with its > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > Sardesai > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 > Million > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they > did > > very > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on TV > > whose > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > countries > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains > the > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW THE > > TRUTH. > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > people...when > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were > left > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > their > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat their religion.was .// > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to > the > > > > media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish to > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > systematically, > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > Missionaries, > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > dormant > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was > associated > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by > whom > > and > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers > with > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by whom, > > and > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because > she > > was > > > > saying this to  those people who had lost all hope and were > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted.... whom their > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > > garbage > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > roadsides..who > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask > theirwhat > > > > their religion.was ...she just took them to  her > > shelter..she > > > > was a missionary  & was true to her faith...I don't think > > anything is > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own religions... A > > mango > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... ..]SO > >  > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all know > of > > course > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE SON > OF > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord > mahavira..sainaath > > all > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG > USKO > > HI > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO  FOLLOW > KARTE > > HUE > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > don't > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the word > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to fight, > > and > > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil bhi > > nahin, > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen â€ËÅ"fight for > it’ at the > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? > Kya > > koi > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > humility > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > milti > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > jaate > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > baar.... > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > chalte > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I m > > trying > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > >  > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara > mauka > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne > ke > > liye > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > Bhagwan > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > >  > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Siddartha ji, Marwadis are not to be abhorred because all of them are not " Kanjoos " and most of them are born business men. Sindhis are not to be abhorred because all of them are not " Chor " and many of them are doing very well in the business sectors. Punjabis are not to be abhorred because all of them are not stupid Sardars and most of them are occupying good positions in the administrative ranks . But Hindus are to be abhorred for their cowardice in the name of " Tolerance " . In same way Muslims are to be abhorred for their involvemnet majoritily in terrorist activities. I live in a building owned by a Muslim. I have Muslim clients in my business. My delivery boy for the last decade was a Muslim before he expired. L love many Muslim saints, singers and all democratic well educated Muslims. I have enrolled to learn " Sugam Sangeet " (Singing) from a Muslim Master. I love Abdul Kalam,I love That pakistani Ghazal singer who died some year back, I also loved one quawwali singer ( I dont remember his name now). I like javed Akhtar. I love Sharuh and all the Muslim stars of the film world. I pity those good Muslims who are working hard for their daily living in the corrupted goverment of today, who have to pay heavy bribes to mantain their livelihood. I have received good blessings from a Muslim fakir who left his biody 1000 years ago, when i went to his dargah. I dont have aproblem with Muslims but having problem with their dirty violent streaks in them which is terrorising all the world. But i dont like them terrorising Indians in the name of " Bhai " or " Fatwa " . I want india to be free of Muslim terrorism. I want Kashmir to be free of terrorism and terrorists. Such wishes are not wrong. Bhaskar. In , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote: > > Respected sir > > " Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. " > > Sir aap aisi bhasha ka prayog kyon karte hain jis se sirf aapki jeebh/tongue ya man keh lijeye -kharab hoti hai- > > To be very frank -maine aaj tak nahin bola - but i ABHOR MUSLIMS- lekin uske liye main apna muh kyon kharaab karoon? > woh jo hain wo wohi rahenge - " shafiq bhai puncture ghisein hawa bhare taukeer " there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai. > Mera bahut simple line of thought hai --aap(in general) mereko goli maroge fine 10 lak ko aur maaroge fine one day because of your own ill deeds you will be wiped out.sabhi jagah to log mar rahe hain ..Afghanistan,srilanka,India,Iraq,Israel,serbia.All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin) > yeh jo 10 bacche paida kare bolte hain " allah ki den hai " yehi den inko allah ke paas pahuncha degi. > > And i am sure jo aapne bola hai woh to hoke rahega.Aur hona chahiye.bahut ho gaya. > > Best regards > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:45:00 PM > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > Siddartha ji, > > Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. > > The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will > conjoin to crush this whole " kaum " and after that none will have the > guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke > bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise > karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth. > > This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future. > > Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now. > > They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the > bloody strength to rise again. > > Bhaskar. > > , siddhartha saxaena > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskar sir > > > > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega > kya? > > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo > hai.kal india ka match bhi hai. > > just on a lighter note sir. > > > > aapka shishya > > siddhartha > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > Dear Siddartha , > > > > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism > > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on > > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. > > > > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be > > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the > world. > > > > I have got other good things also to say, but not today. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > Respected ALL > > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont > > remember but in some religious magazine only. > > > > > > Warm regards > > > siddhartha > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan > > (eternal). > > > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam > ji > > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are > here > > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our > ancient > > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds > of > > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our > > homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our > > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond > recognition. > > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried > > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > > > Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of > this > > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " > as > > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read > it > > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my > > early > > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that > > they > > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at > least > > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in > > some > > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers > on > > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > > sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much > > time, > > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i > > did > > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > > Womens Era " . > > > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but > > the > > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and > > sweet > > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in > > favour > > > of > > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and > > mindset.* > > > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading > mass > > > media of > > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members > > are > > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ > muslim > > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under > the > > > FCRA. > > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. > > For > > > each > > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of > > money > > > for > > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting > some > > > details > > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > > funded. I > > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity > > in > > > Spain.. > > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner > towards > > > Pakistan > > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be > aired > > > in > > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > > General > > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda > Karat > > > are > > > > sisters. > > > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who > supported > > > BJP is > > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically > and > > > turned > > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church > with > > > its > > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > > allocates > > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is > > Rajdeep > > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > > > Times group list: > > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > > VijayaTimes, > > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many > more.. > > > Times > > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does > > 80 > > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally > > share > > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative > > of > > > Sonia > > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. > Peters > > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed > since > > > Shobana > > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with > > Times > > > > Group. > > > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over > > by > > > Joshua > > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > > Christian > > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is > > still > > > with > > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > > > Ramoji Rao > > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > > Pradesh. > > > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along > with > > a > > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > > major > > > > investment. > > > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian > Company > > > with its > > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > > Sardesai > > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 > > Million > > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they > > did > > > very > > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on > TV > > > whose > > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > > countries > > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains > > the > > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW > THE > > > TRUTH. > > > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > people...when > > > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were > > left > > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > theirÃÆ'‚ > > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat theirÃÆ'‚ > religion.was .// > > > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to > > the > > > > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish > to > > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > > systematically, > > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > > Missionaries, > > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > > dormant > > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was > > associated > > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by > > whom > > > and > > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers > > with > > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by > whom, > > > and > > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ....because > > she > > > was > > > > > saying this to ÃÆ'‚ those people who had lost all hope > and were > > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted.... whom > their > > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > > > garbage > > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > > roadsides..who > > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask > > theirwhat > > > > > theirÃÆ'‚ religion.was ...she just took them to > ÃÆ'‚ her > > > shelter..she > > > > > was a missionary ÃÆ'‚ & was true to her faith..I don't > think > > > anything is > > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own > religions... A > > > mango > > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... > .]SO > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all > know > > of > > > course > > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE > SON > > OF > > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord > > mahavira..sainaath > > > all > > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG > > USKO > > > HI > > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO ÃÆ'‚ > FOLLOW > > KARTE > > > HUE > > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > > don't > > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the > word > > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to > fight, > > > and > > > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil > bhi > > > nahin, > > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ËÅ " fight > for > > itÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢ at the > > > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? > > Kya > > > koi > > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > > humility > > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > > milti > > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > > jaate > > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > > baar... > > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > > chalte > > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I > m > > > trying > > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara > > mauka > > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne > > ke > > > liye > > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > > Bhagwan > > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Siddhartha ji, // Afghanistan,srilanka,India,Iraq,Israel,serbia.All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin)// Yes, Sri Lanka is not a muslim country...I hope the phrase in Hindi doesn't give the idea that Sri Lanka provides weapons to any country....sorry...I am yet to learn the beautiful language...Hindi, which most Sri Lankans love to listen to. blessings, Renu , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote: > > Respected sir > > " Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. " > > Sir aap aisi bhasha ka prayog kyon karte hain jis se sirf aapki jeebh/tongue ya man keh lijeye -kharab hoti hai- > > To be very frank -maine aaj tak nahin bola - but i ABHOR MUSLIMS- lekin uske liye main apna muh kyon kharaab karoon? > woh jo hain wo wohi rahenge - " shafiq bhai puncture ghisein hawa bhare taukeer " there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai. > Mera bahut simple line of thought hai --aap(in general) mereko goli maroge fine 10 lak ko aur maaroge fine one day because of your own ill deeds you will be wiped out.sabhi jagah to log mar rahe hain ..Afghanistan,srilanka,India,Iraq,Israel,serbia.All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin) > yeh jo 10 bacche paida kare bolte hain " allah ki den hai " yehi den inko allah ke paas pahuncha degi. > > And i am sure jo aapne bola hai woh to hoke rahega.Aur hona chahiye.bahut ho gaya. > > Best regards > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:45:00 PM > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > Siddartha ji, > > Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. > > The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will > conjoin to crush this whole " kaum " and after that none will have the > guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke > bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise > karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth. > > This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future. > > Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now. > > They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the > bloody strength to rise again. > > Bhaskar. > > , siddhartha saxaena > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskar sir > > > > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega > kya? > > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo > hai.kal india ka match bhi hai. > > just on a lighter note sir. > > > > aapka shishya > > siddhartha > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > Dear Siddartha , > > > > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism > > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on > > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. > > > > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be > > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the > world. > > > > I have got other good things also to say, but not today. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > Respected ALL > > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont > > remember but in some religious magazine only. > > > > > > Warm regards > > > siddhartha > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan > > (eternal). > > > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam > ji > > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are > here > > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our > ancient > > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds > of > > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our > > homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our > > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond > recognition. > > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried > > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > > > Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of > this > > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " > as > > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read > it > > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my > > early > > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that > > they > > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at > least > > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in > > some > > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers > on > > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > > sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much > > time, > > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i > > did > > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > > Womens Era " . > > > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but > > the > > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and > > sweet > > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in > > favour > > > of > > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and > > mindset.* > > > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading > mass > > > media of > > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members > > are > > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ > muslim > > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under > the > > > FCRA. > > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. > > For > > > each > > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of > > money > > > for > > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting > some > > > details > > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > > funded. I > > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity > > in > > > Spain.. > > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner > towards > > > Pakistan > > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be > aired > > > in > > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > > General > > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda > Karat > > > are > > > > sisters. > > > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who > supported > > > BJP is > > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically > and > > > turned > > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church > with > > > its > > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > > allocates > > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is > > Rajdeep > > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > > > Times group list: > > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > > VijayaTimes, > > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many > more.. > > > Times > > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does > > 80 > > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally > > share > > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative > > of > > > Sonia > > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. > Peters > > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed > since > > > Shobana > > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with > > Times > > > > Group. > > > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over > > by > > > Joshua > > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > > Christian > > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is > > still > > > with > > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > > > Ramoji Rao > > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > > Pradesh. > > > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along > with > > a > > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > > major > > > > investment. > > > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian > Company > > > with its > > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > > Sardesai > > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 > > Million > > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they > > did > > > very > > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on > TV > > > whose > > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > > countries > > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains > > the > > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW > THE > > > TRUTH. > > > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > people...when > > > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were > > left > > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > theirÃÆ'‚ > > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat theirÃÆ'‚ > religion.was .// > > > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to > > the > > > > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish > to > > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > > systematically, > > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > > Missionaries, > > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > > dormant > > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was > > associated > > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by > > whom > > > and > > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers > > with > > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by > whom, > > > and > > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because > > she > > > was > > > > > saying this to ÃÆ'‚ those people who had lost all hope > and were > > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted.... whom > their > > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > > > garbage > > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > > roadsides..who > > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask > > theirwhat > > > > > theirÃÆ'‚ religion.was ...she just took them to > ÃÆ'‚ her > > > shelter..she > > > > > was a missionary ÃÆ'‚ & was true to her faith..I don't > think > > > anything is > > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own > religions... A > > > mango > > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... > .]SO > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all > know > > of > > > course > > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE > SON > > OF > > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord > > mahavira..sainaath > > > all > > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG > > USKO > > > HI > > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO ÃÆ'‚ > FOLLOW > > KARTE > > > HUE > > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > > don't > > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the > word > > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to > fight, > > > and > > > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil > bhi > > > nahin, > > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ËÅ " fight > for > > itÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢ at the > > > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? > > Kya > > > koi > > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > > humility > > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > > milti > > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > > jaate > > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > > baar... > > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > > chalte > > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I > m > > > trying > > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara > > mauka > > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne > > ke > > > liye > > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > > Bhagwan > > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Respected sirVery truly said sir.As i said earlier i abhorr muslims and "there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai. "I stick by it.lekin jo aapne kaha"But Hindus are to be abhorred for their cowardice in the name of "Tolerance" agar hamari fauj hindu fauj nahin hai to fir kya hai?26/11 ko kaun bachane aaya tha all those people ko.hindu hi they na sir.lekin unka bhi yeh ho gaya ki dekho non marathi people helped marathi`s.aap mohammed bin tuglaq se leke aaj tak dekhiye .( that first muslim invader i am forgetting sir BA ma padha tha sir.) Actually yehi naam sabse pehel aaya mere man mein(bin tughlaq)(it seems like a nice non -veg dish actually) ----every one has come and eroded us literally but then what happened?we are still there .and they have gone to their respective gods.In a way -isnt tolerance a better measure?"I love That pakistani Ghazal singer who died some year back, I also loved one quawwali singer ( I dont remember his name now)."Sir that ghazal singer was Mehdi Hassan Saheb who has sung "raft rafta woh meri hasti ka samaan ho gaye" /"ranjish hi sahi dil hi dukhaane ke liye aa" etc immortal ghazals and that qawwali singer was "nusrat fatheh ali khan sahebchhap tilak sab cheeni re mose naina milaikeAllaho hoo allah hoo" Ultimate Sufi qawaali singer.Mereko nahin lagta ki koi unke jaisi pitch and depth pe kabhi koi gaane wala hoga.he enlivened Amir khusro.And other legen "ghulam ali" is still alive hopefully.ultimate ghazal singers and only on tabla and harmonium. Even i agree all muslims are not bad -i have told earlier itslef--but then daal mein namak hi namak hoga to koi kahan tak khayega sir .warm regardssiddharthahis mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, 7 March, 2009 10:16:55 PM Re: Life is life, fight for it Dear Siddartha ji, Marwadis are not to be abhorred because all of them are not " Kanjoos" and most of them are born business men. Sindhis are not to be abhorred because all of them are not "Chor" and many of them are doing very well in the business sectors. Punjabis are not to be abhorred because all of them are not stupid Sardars and most of them are occupying good positions in the administrative ranks . But Hindus are to be abhorred for their cowardice in the name of "Tolerance". In same way Muslims are to be abhorred for their involvemnet majoritily in terrorist activities. I live in a building owned by a Muslim. I have Muslim clients in my business. My delivery boy for the last decade was a Muslim before he expired. L love many Muslim saints, singers and all democratic well educated Muslims. I have enrolled to learn " Sugam Sangeet " (Singing) from a Muslim Master. I love Abdul Kalam,I love That pakistani Ghazal singer who died some year back, I also loved one quawwali singer ( I dont remember his name now). I like javed Akhtar. I love Sharuh and all the Muslim stars of the film world. I pity those good Muslims who are working hard for their daily living in the corrupted goverment of today, who have to pay heavy bribes to mantain their livelihood. I have received good blessings from a Muslim fakir who left his biody 1000 years ago, when i went to his dargah. I dont have aproblem with Muslims but having problem with their dirty violent streaks in them which is terrorising all the world. But i dont like them terrorising Indians in the name of "Bhai" or "Fatwa". I want india to be free of Muslim terrorism. I want Kashmir to be free of terrorism and terrorists. Such wishes are not wrong. Bhaskar. In , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works. > wrote: > > Respected sir > > "Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par." > > Sir aap aisi bhasha ka prayog kyon karte hain jis se sirf aapki jeebh/tongue ya man keh lijeye -kharab hoti hai- > > To be very frank -maine aaj tak nahin bola - but i ABHOR MUSLIMS- lekin uske liye main apna muh kyon kharaab karoon? > woh jo hain wo wohi rahenge -"shafiq bhai puncture ghisein hawa bhare taukeer" there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai. > Mera bahut simple line of thought hai --aap(in general) mereko goli maroge fine 10 lak ko aur maaroge fine one day because of your own ill deeds you will be wiped out.sabhi jagah to log mar rahe hain ..Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin) > yeh jo 10 bacche paida kare bolte hain "allah ki den hai" yehi den inko allah ke paas pahuncha degi. > > And i am sure jo aapne bola hai woh to hoke rahega.Aur hona chahiye.bahut ho gaya. > > Best regards > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:45:00 PM > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > Siddartha ji, > > Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. > > The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will > conjoin to crush this whole " kaum" and after that none will have the > guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke > bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise > karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth. > > This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future. > > Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now. > > They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the > bloody strength to rise again. > > Bhaskar. > > , siddhartha saxaena > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskar sir > > > > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega > kya? > > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo > hai.kal india ka match bhi hai. > > just on a lighter note sir. > > > > aapka shishya > > siddhartha > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > Dear Siddartha , > > > > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism > > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on > > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. > > > > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be > > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the > world. > > > > I have got other good things also to say, but not today. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > @ .. com, siddhartha saxaena > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > Respected ALL > > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont > > remember but in some religious magazine only. > > > > > > Warm regards > > > siddhartha > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan > > (eternal). > > > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam > ji > > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are > here > > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our > ancient > > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds > of > > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our > > homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our > > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond > recognition. > > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried > > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > > > Do You know about the "Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of > this > > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu "kuprathas" > as > > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read > it > > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my > > early > > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that > > they > > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at > least > > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in > > some > > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers > on > > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > > sawaaal hai". I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much > > time, > > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i > > did > > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > > Womens Era". > > > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but > > the > > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and > > sweet > > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in > > favour > > > of > > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and > > mindset.* > > > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading > mass > > > media of > > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members > > are > > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ > muslim > > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under > the > > > FCRA. > > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. > > For > > > each > > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of > > money > > > for > > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting > some > > > details > > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > > funded. I > > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity > > in > > > Spain.. > > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner > towards > > > Pakistan > > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be > aired > > > in > > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > > General > > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda > Karat > > > are > > > > sisters. > > > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who > supported > > > BJP is > > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically > and > > > turned > > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church > with > > > its > > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > > allocates > > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is > > Rajdeep > > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > > > Times group list: > > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > > VijayaTimes, > > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many > more.. > > > Times > > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does > > 80 > > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally > > share > > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative > > of > > > Sonia > > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. > Peters > > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed > since > > > Shobana > > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with > > Times > > > > Group. > > > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over > > by > > > Joshua > > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > > Christian > > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is > > still > > > with > > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao.. > > > Ramoji Rao > > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > > Pradesh. > > > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along > with > > a > > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > > major > > > > investment. > > > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian > Company > > > with its > > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > > Sardesai > > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 > > Million > > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they > > did > > > very > > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on > TV > > > whose > > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > > countries > > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains > > the > > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW > THE > > > TRUTH. > > > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > people...when > > > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides...who were > > left > > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > theirÃÆ'‚ > > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat theirÃÆ'‚ > religion.was .// > > > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to > > the > > > > > media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish > to > > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > > systematically, > > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > > Missionaries, > > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > > dormant > > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was > > associated > > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by > > whom > > > and > > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers > > with > > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by > whom, > > > and > > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ....because > > she > > > was > > > > > saying this to ÃÆ'‚ those people who had lost all hope > and were > > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted.... whom > their > > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > > > garbage > > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > > roadsides..who > > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask > > theirwhat > > > > > theirÃÆ'‚ religion.was ...she just took them to > ÃÆ'‚ her > > > shelter..she > > > > > was a missionary ÃÆ'‚ & was true to her faith..I don't > think > > > anything is > > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own > religions... A > > > mango > > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... > .]SO > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all > know > > of > > > course > > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE > SON > > OF > > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord > > mahavira..sainaath > > > all > > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG > > USKO > > > HI > > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN....AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO ÃÆ'‚ > FOLLOW > > KARTE > > > HUE > > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > > don't > > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the > word > > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to > fight, > > > and > > > > > should not be.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil > bhi > > > nahin, > > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ËÅ"fight > for > > itÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢ at the > > > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'.. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? > > Kya > > > koi > > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > > humility > > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > > milti > > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > > jaate > > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > > baar... > > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > > chalte > > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I > m > > > trying > > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara > > mauka > > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne > > ke > > > liye > > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > > Bhagwan > > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Respected renuji what i meant by// Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin)// this "aur koi bechta hi nahi hai " simply means that except muslims there arent any other who sell arms.i am sure you are aware of "darra adam khel" in pakistan where they sell weapons like we have vegetable markets in india.this i am saying based on a coverage of india today in times when rajiv gandhi was assasinated.and few days back i heard in some news channel too.regardssiddhartha This mail is sent by siddhartha.renunw <renunw Sent: Saturday, 7 March, 2009 10:33:38 PM Re: Life is life, fight for it Dear Siddhartha ji, // Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims..except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin)// Yes, Sri Lanka is not a muslim country...I hope the phrase in Hindi doesn't give the idea that Sri Lanka provides weapons to any country....sorry. ..I am yet to learn the beautiful language...Hindi, which most Sri Lankans love to listen to. blessings, Renu , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works > wrote: > > Respected sir > > "Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par." > > Sir aap aisi bhasha ka prayog kyon karte hain jis se sirf aapki jeebh/tongue ya man keh lijeye -kharab hoti hai- > > To be very frank -maine aaj tak nahin bola - but i ABHOR MUSLIMS- lekin uske liye main apna muh kyon kharaab karoon? > woh jo hain wo wohi rahenge -"shafiq bhai puncture ghisein hawa bhare taukeer" there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai. > Mera bahut simple line of thought hai --aap(in general) mereko goli maroge fine 10 lak ko aur maaroge fine one day because of your own ill deeds you will be wiped out.sabhi jagah to log mar rahe hain .Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin) > yeh jo 10 bacche paida kare bolte hain "allah ki den hai" yehi den inko allah ke paas pahuncha degi. > > And i am sure jo aapne bola hai woh to hoke rahega.Aur hona chahiye.bahut ho gaya. > > Best regards > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:45:00 PM > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > Siddartha ji, > > Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. > > The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will > conjoin to crush this whole " kaum" and after that none will have the > guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke > bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise > karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth. > > This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future. > > Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now. > > They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the > bloody strength to rise again. > > Bhaskar. > > , siddhartha saxaena > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskar sir > > > > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega > kya? > > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo > hai.kal india ka match bhi hai. > > just on a lighter note sir. > > > > aapka shishya > > siddhartha > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > Dear Siddartha , > > > > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism > > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on > > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas.. > > > > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be > > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the > world. > > > > I have got other good things also to say, but not today. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > Respected ALL > > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont > > remember but in some religious magazine only. > > > > > > Warm regards > > > siddhartha > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan > > (eternal). > > > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam > ji > > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are > here > > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our > ancient > > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds > of > > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our > > homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our > > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond > recognition. > > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried > > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > > > Do You know about the "Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of > this > > > dirty campaign against us Hindus.. You will find every magazine will > > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu "kuprathas" > as > > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read > it > > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my > > early > > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that > > they > > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at > least > > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in > > some > > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers > on > > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > > sawaaal hai". I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much > > time, > > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i > > did > > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > > Womens Era". > > > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but > > the > > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and > > sweet > > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in > > favour > > > of > > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and > > mindset.* > > > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading > mass > > > media of > > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members > > are > > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ > muslim > > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under > the > > > FCRA. > > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. > > For > > > each > > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs.. which is lot of > > money > > > for > > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting > some > > > details > > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > > funded. I > > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity > > in > > > Spain.. > > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner > towards > > > Pakistan > > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be > aired > > > in > > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > > General > > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda > Karat > > > are > > > > sisters. > > > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who > supported > > > BJP is > > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically > and > > > turned > > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church > with > > > its > > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > > allocates > > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is > > Rajdeep > > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > > > Times group list: > > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > > VijayaTimes, > > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many > more.. > > > Times > > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does > > 80 > > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally > > share > > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative > > of > > > Sonia > > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. > Peters > > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed > since > > > Shobana > > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with > > Times > > > > Group. > > > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over > > by > > > Joshua > > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > > Christian > > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is > > still > > > with > > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > > > Ramoji Rao > > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > > Pradesh. > > > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along > with > > a > > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > > major > > > > investment. > > > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian > Company > > > with its > > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > > Sardesai > > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 > > Million > > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they > > did > > > very > > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on > TV > > > whose > > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > > countries > > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains > > the > > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW > THE > > > TRUTH. > > > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > people...when > > > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides...who were > > left > > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > theirÃÆ'‚ > > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat theirÃÆ'‚ > religion.was .// > > > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to > > the > > > > > media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish > to > > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > > systematically, > > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > > Missionaries, > > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > > dormant > > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was > > associated > > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by > > whom > > > and > > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers > > with > > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by > whom, > > > and > > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because > > she > > > was > > > > > saying this to ÃÆ'‚ those people who had lost all hope > and were > > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted.... whom > their > > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > > > garbage > > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > > roadsides..who > > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask > > theirwhat > > > > > theirÃÆ'‚ religion.was ...she just took them to > ÃÆ'‚ her > > > shelter..she > > > > > was a missionary ÃÆ'‚ & was true to her faith..I don't > think > > > anything is > > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own > religions... A > > > mango > > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... > .]SO > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all > know > > of > > > course > > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE > SON > > OF > > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha.. .lord > > mahavira..sainaath > > > all > > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG > > USKO > > > HI > > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO ÃÆ'‚ > FOLLOW > > KARTE > > > HUE > > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > > don't > > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the > word > > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to > fight, > > > and > > > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil > bhi > > > nahin, > > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ËÅ"fight > for > > itÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢ at the > > > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? > > Kya > > > koi > > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > > humility > > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > > milti > > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > > jaate > > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > > baar... > > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > > chalte > > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I > m > > > trying > > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain.. Isme dobara > > mauka > > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne > > ke > > > liye > > > > > hi sangharsh kare.. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > > Bhagwan > > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Respected Members, We should not discuss politics over here as this will create more confusions in the mind of people as in the case of Renunw Maam. Renunw Ji it doesn't mean that Sri Lankan are supplying arms it means that behind every arm deal their is a muslim. We should avoid such type of topics here,instead we can mobilise our fellowmen to atleast come out of their home and cast vote so that they can play some role in changing the fate of our life. Thanks and Regards. Sudhanshu Pareek--- On Sat, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw wrote: renunw <renunw Re: Life is life, fight for it Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 10:33 PM Dear Siddhartha ji,// Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin)//Yes, Sri Lanka is not a muslim country...I hope the phrase in Hindi doesn't give the idea that Sri Lanka provides weapons to any country....sorry. ..I am yet to learn the beautiful language...Hindi, which most Sri Lankans love to listen to. blessings,Renu, siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works > wrote:>> Respected sir> > "Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon> ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar> najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon.> These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar> hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut> jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par."> > Sir aap aisi bhasha ka prayog kyon karte hain jis se sirf aapki jeebh/tongue ya man keh lijeye -kharab hoti hai-> > To be very frank -maine aaj tak nahin bola - but i ABHOR MUSLIMS- lekin uske liye main apna muh kyon kharaab karoon?> woh jo hain wo wohi rahenge -"shafiq bhai puncture ghisein hawa bhare taukeer" there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai.> Mera bahut simple line of thought hai --aap(in general) mereko goli maroge fine 10 lak ko aur maaroge fine one day because of your own ill deeds you will be wiped out.sabhi jagah to log mar rahe hain .Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin)> yeh jo 10 bacche paida kare bolte hain "allah ki den hai" yehi den inko allah ke paas pahuncha degi.> > And i am sure jo aapne bola hai woh to hoke rahega.Aur hona chahiye.bahut ho gaya.> > Best regards> siddhartha> > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:45:00 PM> Re: Life is life, fight for it> > > > Siddartha ji,> > Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon> ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar> najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon.> > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar> hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut> jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par.> > The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will> conjoin to crush this whole " kaum" and after that none will have the> guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke> bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise> karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth.> > This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future.> > Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now.> > They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the> bloody strength to rise again.> > Bhaskar.> > , siddhartha saxaena> <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar sir> >> > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega> kya?> > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo> hai.kal india ka match bhi hai.> > just on a lighter note sir.> >> > aapka shishya> > siddhartha> >> > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM> > Subject: Re: Life is life, fight for it> >> >> >> > Dear Siddartha ,> >> > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism> > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on> > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas.> >> > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be> > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the> world.> >> > I have got other good things also to say, but not today.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > , siddhartha saxaena> > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > >> > > Respected ALL> > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont> > remember but in some religious magazine only.> > >> > > Warm regards> > > siddhartha> > > This mail is sent by siddhartha..> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...> > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM> > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it> > >> > >> > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan> > (eternal).> > > Somebody will always be there to protect it.> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> > >> > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam> ji> > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are> here> > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our> ancient> > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever> > >> > >> > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it> > >> > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > >> > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds> of> > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our> > homes and minds, the change has come very fast.> > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our> > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond> recognition.> > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried> > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive?> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > >> > >> > > Dear neelamji,> > >> > > Do You know about the "Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi> > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of> this> > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will> > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu "kuprathas"> as> > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read> it> > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my> > early> > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that> > they> > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at> least> > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a> > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in> > some> > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers> on> > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to> > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka> > > sawaaal hai". I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much> > time,> > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i> > did> > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with "> > > Womens Era".> > >> > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is> > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our> > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > ...>> > > wrote:> > >> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > >> > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but> > the> > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and> > sweet> > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the> > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in> > favour> > > of> > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and> > mindset.*> > > >> > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading> mass> > > media of> > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members> > are> > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. *> > > >> > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/> muslim> > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under> the> > > FCRA.> > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it.> > For> > > each> > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of> > money> > > for> > > > someone who has nothing to eat!> > > >> > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting> some> > > details> > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and> > > funded. I> > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them.> > > >> > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity> > in> > > Spain..> > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner> towards> > > Pakistan> > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be> aired> > > in> > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat,> > > General> > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda> Karat> > > are> > > > sisters.> > > >> > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who> supported> > > BJP is> > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically> and> > > turned> > > > into Hindu bashing.> > > >> > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church> with> > > its> > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually> > > allocates> > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is> > Rajdeep> > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.> > > >> > > > Times group list:> > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina,> > > VijayaTimes,> > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many> more..> > > Times> > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does> > 80> > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally> > share> > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative> > of> > > Sonia> > > > Gandhi.> > > >> > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St.> Peters> > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne.> > > >> > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed> since> > > Shobana> > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with> > Times> > > > Group.> > > >> > > > The Hindu:> > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over> > by> > > Joshua> > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national.> > > >> > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups.> > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS> > > Christian> > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is> > still> > > with> > > > the Indian counterpart.> > > >> > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao.> > > Ramoji Rao> > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra> > > Pradesh.> > > >> > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along> with> > a> > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently.> > > >> > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India.> > > >> > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist)> > > >> > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have> > > major> > > > investment.> > > >> > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian> Company> > > with its> > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar.> > > >> > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep> > > Sardesai> > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5> > Million> > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they> > did> > > very> > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on> TV> > > whose> > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported> > > >> > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab> > > countries> > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains> > the> > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious.> > > >> > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW> THE> > > TRUTH.> > > >> > > > Sorry for a long mail.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian> > > people...when> > > > >> > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were> > left> > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat> > theirÃÆ'‚> > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat theirÃÆ'‚> religion.was .//> > > > >> > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to> > the> > > > > media propoganda which " media" is purchased by those who wish> to> > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture> > > systematically,> > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the> > > Missionaries,> > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a> > > dormant> > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was> > associated> > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was> > > > > hapenning actually. Period.> > > > >> > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by> > whom> > > and> > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers> > with> > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by> whom,> > > and> > > > > then come back with details.> > > > >> > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > <% 40. com>,> > >> > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because> > she> > > was> > > > > saying this to ÃÆ'‚ those people who had lost all hope> and were> > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted.... whom> their> > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from> > > garbage> > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian> > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the> > > roadsides..who> > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask> > theirwhat> > > > > theirÃÆ'‚ religion.was ...she just took them to> ÃÆ'‚ her> > > shelter..she> > > > > was a missionary ÃÆ'‚ & was true to her faith..I don't> think> > > anything is> > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own> religions... A> > > mango> > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a> > > MANGO,AAM,AMB> > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages...> .]SO> > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik,> > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all> know> > of> > > course> > > > > their is a definite difference> > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE> SON> > OF> > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord> > mahavira..sainaath> > > all> > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG> > USKO> > > HI> > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO ÃÆ'‚> FOLLOW> > KARTE> > > HUE> > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>>> > > don't> > > > > you think so?> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it> > > > > > > > >> > > <% 40. com>> > >> > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Naresh ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the> word> > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to> fight,> > > and> > > > > should not be.> > > > > >> > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi> > > jaye.> > > > > >> > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil> bhi> > > nahin,> > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ËÅ"fight> for> > itÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢ at the> > > > >> > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question?> > Kya> > > koi> > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and> > > humility> > > > > in this?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar> > > milti> > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool> > > jaate> > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar> > > baar...> > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam> > > chalte> > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath...> > > > > >> > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol> > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol> > > > > >> > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra> > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra> > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra> > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra> > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam> > > > > >> > > > > > Best regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I> m> > > trying> > > > > to give my interpretation for it:> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara> > mauka> > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne> > ke> > > liye> > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki> > > Bhagwan> > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai.> > > > > >> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > Will someone like to add to this?> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > Naresh> > > > > >> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Siddhartha ji, Thanks so much for the clarification. blessings, Renu , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote: > > Respected renuji > what i meant by// Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except > srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi > nahin)// > this " aur koi bechta hi nahi hai " simply means that except muslims there arent any other who sell arms.i am sure you are aware of " darra adam khel " in pakistan where they sell weapons like we have vegetable markets in india.this i am saying based on a coverage of india today in times when rajiv gandhi was assasinated.and few days back i heard in some news channel too. > > regards > siddhartha > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ________________________________ > renunw <renunw > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 10:33:38 PM > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > Dear Siddhartha ji, > > // Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin)// > > Yes, Sri Lanka is not a muslim country...I hope the phrase in Hindi doesn't give the idea that Sri Lanka provides weapons to any country....sorry. ..I am yet to learn the beautiful language...Hindi, which most Sri Lankans love to listen to. > > blessings, > > Renu > > @ .. com, siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > Respected sir > > > > " Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. " > > > > Sir aap aisi bhasha ka prayog kyon karte hain jis se sirf aapki jeebh/tongue ya man keh lijeye -kharab hoti hai- > > > > To be very frank -maine aaj tak nahin bola - but i ABHOR MUSLIMS- lekin uske liye main apna muh kyon kharaab karoon? > > woh jo hain wo wohi rahenge - " shafiq bhai puncture ghisein hawa bhare taukeer " there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai. > > Mera bahut simple line of thought hai --aap(in general) mereko goli maroge fine 10 lak ko aur maaroge fine one day because of your own ill deeds you will be wiped out.sabhi jagah to log mar rahe hain .Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin) > > yeh jo 10 bacche paida kare bolte hain " allah ki den hai " yehi den inko allah ke paas pahuncha degi. > > > > And i am sure jo aapne bola hai woh to hoke rahega.Aur hona chahiye.bahut ho gaya. > > > > Best regards > > siddhartha > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:45:00 PM > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > Siddartha ji, > > > > Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > > > > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. > > > > The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will > > conjoin to crush this whole " kaum " and after that none will have the > > guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke > > bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise > > karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth. > > > > This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future. > > > > Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now. > > > > They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the > > bloody strength to rise again. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar sir > > > > > > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega > > kya? > > > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo > > hai.kal india ka match bhi hai. > > > just on a lighter note sir. > > > > > > aapka shishya > > > siddhartha > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddartha , > > > > > > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism > > > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on > > > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. > > > > > > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be > > > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the > > world. > > > > > > I have got other good things also to say, but not today. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected ALL > > > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont > > > remember but in some religious magazine only. > > > > > > > > Warm regards > > > > siddhartha > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > > > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan > > > (eternal). > > > > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam > > ji > > > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are > > here > > > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our > > ancient > > > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds > > of > > > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our > > > homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > > > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our > > > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond > > recognition. > > > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried > > > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > > > > > Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of > > this > > > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > > > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " > > as > > > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read > > it > > > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my > > > early > > > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that > > > they > > > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at > > least > > > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in > > > some > > > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers > > on > > > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > > > sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much > > > time, > > > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i > > > did > > > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > > > Womens Era " . > > > > > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > > ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but > > > the > > > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and > > > sweet > > > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in > > > favour > > > > of > > > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and > > > mindset.* > > > > > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading > > mass > > > > media of > > > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members > > > are > > > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ > > muslim > > > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under > > the > > > > FCRA. > > > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. > > > For > > > > each > > > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of > > > money > > > > for > > > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting > > some > > > > details > > > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > > > funded. I > > > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity > > > in > > > > Spain.. > > > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner > > towards > > > > Pakistan > > > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be > > aired > > > > in > > > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > > > General > > > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda > > Karat > > > > are > > > > > sisters. > > > > > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who > > supported > > > > BJP is > > > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically > > and > > > > turned > > > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church > > with > > > > its > > > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > > > allocates > > > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is > > > Rajdeep > > > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > > > > > Times group list: > > > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > > > VijayaTimes, > > > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many > > more.. > > > > Times > > > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does > > > 80 > > > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally > > > share > > > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative > > > of > > > > Sonia > > > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. > > Peters > > > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed > > since > > > > Shobana > > > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with > > > Times > > > > > Group. > > > > > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over > > > by > > > > Joshua > > > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > > > Christian > > > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is > > > still > > > > with > > > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > > > > Ramoji Rao > > > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > > > Pradesh. > > > > > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along > > with > > > a > > > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > > > major > > > > > investment. > > > > > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian > > Company > > > > with its > > > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > > > Sardesai > > > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 > > > Million > > > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they > > > did > > > > very > > > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on > > TV > > > > whose > > > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > > > countries > > > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains > > > the > > > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW > > THE > > > > TRUTH. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > people...when > > > > > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were > > > left > > > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > > theirÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat theirÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > religion.was .// > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to > > > the > > > > > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish > > to > > > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > > > systematically, > > > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > > > Missionaries, > > > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > > > dormant > > > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was > > > associated > > > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by > > > whom > > > > and > > > > > > come back with details on same.. Also find out which Newspapers > > > with > > > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by > > whom, > > > > and > > > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because > > > she > > > > was > > > > > > saying this to ÃÆ'Æ'‚ those people who had lost all hope > > and were > > > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted.... whom > > their > > > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > > > > garbage > > > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > > > roadsides..who > > > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask > > > theirwhat > > > > > > theirÃÆ'Æ'‚ religion.was ...she just took them to > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ her > > > > shelter..she > > > > > > was a missionary ÃÆ'Æ'‚ & was true to her faith..I don't > > think > > > > anything is > > > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own > > religions... A > > > > mango > > > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... > > .]SO > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all > > know > > > of > > > > course > > > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE > > SON > > > OF > > > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord > > > mahavira..sainaath > > > > all > > > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG > > > USKO > > > > HI > > > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > FOLLOW > > > KARTE > > > > HUE > > > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > > > don't > > > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you.. I am all for peace and the > > word > > > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to > > fight, > > > > and > > > > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil > > bhi > > > > nahin, > > > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‹Å " fight > > for > > > itÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂÂ\ ¢ at the > > > > > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? > > > Kya > > > > koi > > > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > > > humility > > > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > > > milti > > > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > > > jaate > > > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > > > baar... > > > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > > > chalte > > > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I > > m > > > > trying > > > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara > > > mauka > > > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne > > > ke > > > > liye > > > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > > > Bhagwan > > > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Sudhanshu ji, Thanks for your consideration and clarification. I do appreciate it. Anyway no problem as far as I am concerned..I have confidence in respected Bhaskar ji's censorship/moderation. We all love our homelands...and there is hardly any difference between Hinduism and Buddhism. Hence better clear the doubts openly rather than blame silently. blessings, Renu , sudhanshu pareek <pareek_sp2007 wrote: > > Dear Respected Members, >                                      We should not discuss politics over here as this will create more confusions in the mind of people as in the case of Renunw Maam. > Renunw Ji it doesn't mean that Sri Lankan are supplying arms it means that behind every arm deal their is a muslim. >  > We should avoid such type of topics here,instead we can mobilise our fellowmen to atleast come out of their home and cast vote so that they can play some role in changing the fate of our life. > Thanks and Regards. > Sudhanshu Pareek > > --- On Sat, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw wrote: > > > renunw <renunw > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 10:33 PM Dear Siddhartha ji, > > // Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin)// > > Yes, Sri Lanka is not a muslim country...I hope the phrase in Hindi doesn't give the idea that Sri Lanka provides weapons to any country....sorry. ..I am yet to learn the beautiful language...Hindi, which most Sri Lankans love to listen to. > > blessings, > > Renu > > , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > Respected sir > > > > " Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. " > > > > Sir aap aisi bhasha ka prayog kyon karte hain jis se sirf aapki jeebh/tongue ya man keh lijeye -kharab hoti hai- > > > > To be very frank -maine aaj tak nahin bola - but i ABHOR MUSLIMS- lekin uske liye main apna muh kyon kharaab karoon? > > woh jo hain wo wohi rahenge - " shafiq bhai puncture ghisein hawa bhare taukeer " there are more than few exceptions which you and i know like A.P.J etc but ingeneral yehi to hai. > > Mera bahut simple line of thought hai --aap(in general) mereko goli maroge fine 10 lak ko aur maaroge fine one day because of your own ill deeds you will be wiped out.sabhi jagah to log mar rahe hain .Afghanistan, srilanka, India,Iraq, Israel,serbia. All muslims.except srilanka (but the weapon providers must be mulims-aur koi bechta hai hi nahin) > > yeh jo 10 bacche paida kare bolte hain " allah ki den hai " yehi den inko allah ke paas pahuncha degi. > > > > And i am sure jo aapne bola hai woh to hoke rahega.Aur hona chahiye.bahut ho gaya. > > > > Best regards > > siddhartha > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:45:00 PM > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > Siddartha ji, > > > > Abhi toh bahut good news baaki hai. Yeh saale charbi chadhe daddhiyalon > > ki charbi sab nikaal di jaayegi aur within 2010 hi aapko iska aasar > > najar aa jayega, joh abhi main likh raha hoon. > > > > These rascals inke yahan baccha 12 saal ka hota hai, tab bhi uske andar > > hum Hinduon ke khilaaf hatred bhar di jaati hai. In ko saalon ko bahut > > jaldi pata padega ki unke baap se bhi bada baap hai yahan par. > > > > The world will be fed up of their terrorist activities and all will > > conjoin to crush this whole " kaum " and after that none will have the > > guts to ever rise again. And by the time its 7 years hence, in saalon ke > > bacche bhi hinjde paida honge jinme dum nahin hoga kisi ko terrorise > > karne ka, because we will by that time, show them what they are worth. > > > > This is not empty talks, but a real forecast of the near future. > > > > Just 2 years remain for you to see how my forecast works now. > > > > They need to be crushed, and they shall be crushed, never having the > > bloody strength to rise again. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar sir > > > > > > Kya good news de rahein hain sir?kal ravi_ pushya star mein boliyega > > kya? > > > aaj paper mein dekha thee news ki kal bada auspicious star combo > > hai.kal india ka match bhi hai. > > > just on a lighter note sir. > > > > > > aapka shishya > > > siddhartha > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 9:13:57 PM > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddartha , > > > > > > Do not worry. By 2020, all those people who are following fanatacism > > > religion, would be crushed completely. Nobody will dare put a fatwa on > > > anybody then, because they would not remain to declare fatwas. > > > > > > Except Afghanisthan, fanatacism and terrorism world over, would be > > > crushed completely. India would become the 3rd super power in the > > world. > > > > > > I have got other good things also to say, but not today. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected ALL > > > > even i have heard that hinduism will prevail in the end.i dont > > > remember but in some religious magazine only. > > > > > > > > Warm regards > > > > siddhartha > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > > > > > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009 8:07:20 PM > > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Kiran ji. You are right. Hinduism is indeed Sanatan > > > (eternal). > > > > Somebody will always be there to protect it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ > > > > > > > > > our hindu background and culture can never get extinct dear neelam > > ji > > > when ppl like U ,Tripura ji ,Bhaskarji and so many of the like are > > here > > > to lead and guide us....I read somewherthat it is written in our > > ancient > > > books that all religion will end but hinduism will remain forever > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > You are right. Actually this was a game plan which started hundreds > > of > > > years ago and now with info-highway giving them an easy access to our > > > homes and minds, the change has come very fast. > > > > Coming generation will have no Hindus who would really know our > > > background and culture. It is simply gone. Distorted beyond > > recognition. > > > No one is now studying it, no authentic search/research being carried > > > out. Who will keep the culture and tradition alive? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear neelamji, > > > > > > > > Do You know about the " Sarita " Magazine, a favorite with the Hindi > > > > speaking janta, since deacdes of its existence, is also a part of > > this > > > > dirty campaign against us Hindus. You will find every magazine will > > > > contain at least one article showing the evils of Hindu " kuprathas " > > as > > > > they say, which has been spoiling the minds of the ladies who read > > it > > > > since last 40 years. I was a regularreader of this magazine in my > > > early > > > > teens and youth but I stopped after 15 years, when I realsied that > > > they > > > > talk negatively about or Hindu practises in every edition, in at > > least > > > > 1-2 articles of every fortnightly they published, and this was a > > > > essential feature of the same. I was in 1985 working in Calcutta in > > > some > > > > company, and that time got angry and spoke to one of their writers > > on > > > > this subject, and was replied that we cant do anything if we want to > > > > remain writers here, we have to do as we are told. " paapi pet ka > > > > sawaaal hai " . I did not pursue the matter as neither ahd that much > > > time, > > > > nor the relevant contacts to bring them to be taught a lesson. But i > > > did > > > > what i could. I stopped buying and reading the same. Repeat with " > > > > Womens Era " . > > > > > > > > Just see how our Government is blissfully unaware about what is > > > > hapenning in our country and with such systematic bludgeoning of our > > > > culture through all medias. No body cares. Nobody knows too. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > > ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > *We can't blame the public for not knowing the truth. They are but > > > the > > > > > victims of what I call 'soft terrorism'. They inflict a slow and > > > sweet > > > > > poison and erodes the system from its roots. This is done by the > > > > > perpetrators in three steps: hiding the truth, brainwashing in > > > favour > > > > of > > > > > what is not true, changing and soft-moulding the psyche and > > > mindset.* > > > > > > > > > > What better way to do this, than controlling the all-pervading > > mass > > > > media of > > > > > which they are the commanders now. *I am sure most of our members > > > are > > > > > unaware about this ghastly truth. * > > > > > > > > > > Another target is the NGOs, specially christian missionaries/ > > muslim > > > > > organisations who get the 99 percent of the total funding under > > the > > > > FCRA. > > > > > You can imagine for what purpose they are supposed to utilise it. > > > For > > > > each > > > > > conversion, a poor person gets up to 10,000 rs. which is lot of > > > money > > > > for > > > > > someone who has nothing to eat! > > > > > > > > > > With your permission, and since you've mentioned, I am posting > > some > > > > details > > > > > for our members about the news channels and how they are owned and > > > > funded. I > > > > > hope this will be an eye opener for them. > > > > > > > > > > NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity > > > in > > > > Spain.. > > > > > Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner > > towards > > > > Pakistan > > > > > because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be > > aired > > > > in > > > > > Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, > > > > General > > > > > Secretary of the Communist party of India. His wife and Brinda > > Karat > > > > are > > > > > sisters. > > > > > > > > > > India Today which used to be the only national weekly who > > supported > > > > BJP is > > > > > now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically > > and > > > > turned > > > > > into Hindu bashing. > > > > > > > > > > CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church > > with > > > > its > > > > > branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually > > > > allocates > > > > > $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is > > > Rajdeep > > > > > Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. > > > > > > > > > > Times group list: > > > > > Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust , Femina, > > > > VijayaTimes, > > > > > Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many > > more.. > > > > Times > > > > > Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 'World Christian Council' does > > > 80 > > > > > percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally > > > share > > > > > balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative > > > of > > > > Sonia > > > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > > > > > Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. > > Peters > > > > > Pontificial Church Melbourne. > > > > > > > > > > Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed > > since > > > > Shobana > > > > > Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with > > > Times > > > > > Group. > > > > > > > > > > The Hindu: > > > > > English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over > > > by > > > > Joshua > > > > > Society, Berne, Switzerland . N.Ram's wife is a Swiss national. > > > > > > > > > > Indian Express: Divided into two groups. > > > > > The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). ACTS > > > > Christian > > > > > Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is > > > still > > > > with > > > > > the Indian counterpart. > > > > > > > > > > Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. > > > > Ramoji Rao > > > > > is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra > > > > Pradesh. > > > > > > > > > > Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along > > with > > > a > > > > > Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. > > > > > > > > > > The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. > > > > > > > > > > Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist) > > > > > > > > > > Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have > > > > major > > > > > investment. > > > > > > > > > > Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian > > Company > > > > with its > > > > > Chief Editor M.J. Akbar. > > > > > > > > > > at the time of Gujrat riots where Hindus were burnt alive, Rajdeep > > > > Sardesai > > > > > and Bharkha Dutt working for Star TV at that time got around 5 > > > Million > > > > > Dollars from Saudi Arabia to cover only Muslim victims which they > > > did > > > > very > > > > > faithfully. Not a single Hindu family was interviewed or shown on > > TV > > > > whose > > > > > near and dear ones had been burnt alive, it is reported > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Tejpal of < Tehelka.com regularly gets flat check from Arab > > > > countries > > > > > to target BJP and Hindus only, it is said. The ownership explains > > > the > > > > > control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. > > > > > > > > > > Members may PONDER OVER THIS. They will KNOW WHY WE DO NOT KNOW > > THE > > > > TRUTH. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for a long mail. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > people...when > > > > > > > > > > > > she picked up sick & dying people from the roadsides..who were > > > left > > > > > > there by their own people..she did not first ask theirwhat > > > theirÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > religion.was .not first ask theirwhat theirÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > religion.was .// > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a lot of ground reality which many do not know, due to > > > the > > > > > > media propoganda which " media " is purchased by those who wish > > to > > > > > > subjugate India , and this trying to erode our culture > > > > systematically, > > > > > > is being carried on since last 50 years, more so by the > > > > Missionaries, > > > > > > rather than people of other religions. I do not wish to ignite a > > > > dormant > > > > > > volcano here, so will not elaborate. Just know that I was > > > associated > > > > > > with a very strong VHP person in South India, who knew what was > > > > > > hapenning actually. Period. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find out in the meanwhile which TV Channel is owmned by > > > whom > > > > and > > > > > > come back with details on same. Also find out which Newspapers > > > with > > > > > > largest selling circulations, in Delhi Bombay , are owned by > > whom, > > > > and > > > > > > then come back with details. > > > > > > > > > > > > You will be surprised at the disclosures. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > kiran dasaur kirandasaur@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe reverend mother teresa said..... fight for it ...because > > > she > > > > was > > > > > > saying this to ÃÆ'Æ'‚ those people who had lost all hope > > and were > > > > > > suffering from endless depression.. . .sick & unwanted.... whom > > their > > > > > > relations had discarded... some of whom she had picked up from > > > > garbage > > > > > > heaps....and as for the question of serving only the christian > > > > > > people...when she picked up sick & dying people from the > > > > roadsides..who > > > > > > were left there by their own people..she did not first ask > > > theirwhat > > > > > > theirÃÆ'Æ'‚ religion.was ...she just took them to > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ her > > > > shelter..she > > > > > > was a missionary ÃÆ'Æ'‚ & was true to her faith..I don't > > think > > > > anything is > > > > > > wrong with that..just as we are faithful to our own > > religions... A > > > > mango > > > > > > is a mango with all it's sweetness whether it be called a > > > > MANGO,AAM,AMB > > > > > > OR AAMRA[i don't know what it is called in other languages... > > .]SO > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > IS GOD...GOD IS GOD...whether we call him maalik, > > > > > > eeshwar,allah, bhagwan.. ..vaheguru. ..jesus.. But as we all > > know > > > of > > > > course > > > > > > their is a definite difference > > > > > > > between GOD and his representatives. ..jesus said he was THE > > SON > > > OF > > > > > > GOD...i.e. a representative of god...buddha. .lord > > > mahavira..sainaath > > > > all > > > > > > are representatives of god..JIS-SE BHI SAHARA MILTA HAI ...LOG > > > USKO > > > > HI > > > > > > FOLLOW KARTE HAIN...AUR BACCHE APNE MAA-PITA KO ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > FOLLOW > > > KARTE > > > > HUE > > > > > > DEKH KAR FOLLOW KARTE HAIN..AISE HI EK TREND SHURU HO JATA HAI>> > > > > don't > > > > > > you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > Re: Life is life, fight for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I beg to differ with you. I am all for peace and the > > word > > > > > > 'fight' itself is not savoury in this poem. Life is not to > > fight, > > > > and > > > > > > should not be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ye pankti aise hai jaise ki jung mein jaate hue sipahi ko kahi > > > > jaye. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > par zindagi ladai to nahin, aur ladai se usmein kuchh hasil > > bhi > > > > nahin, > > > > > > sivaye tabahi ke. Hum kyun kahen ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‹Å " fight > > for > > > itÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂÂ\ ¢ at the > > > > > > > > > > > > most say 'go for it'. Fight for what? isn't it the big question? > > > Kya > > > > koi > > > > > > fight se zindagi bachaa sakta hai? Where is the acceptance and > > > > humility > > > > > > in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aur aisa bhi nahin zindagi ek baar milti hai, ye to baar baar > > > > milti > > > > > > hai, humaari yadein dhundhli hai aur hum dekh nahin paate, bhool > > > > jaate > > > > > > hain jab wo pehli baar mili thi, phir doosri baar, aur phir baar > > > > baar... > > > > > > jab tak hum acceptance ka lesson na seekh lein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar humaein kehna hoga, to hum kahenge jeevan chalne ka naam > > > > chalte > > > > > > raho subaho shaam, par pyaar se, acceptance ke saath... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ujali ujali bhor sunaati tutle tutle bol > > > > > > > andhakaar mein suraj baitha apani gathdi khol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ke usse aankh lada mitra > > > > > > > samay se haath mila mitra > > > > > > > ke ho jaa kiran kiran mitra > > > > > > > ke chalta rahe chalan mitra > > > > > > > jeevan chalne ka naam chalte raho subaho shaam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/7 Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri@ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having read the poem, and I have read it a good many times, I > > m > > > > trying > > > > > > to give my interpretation for it: > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > Zindagi to zindagi hi hain, ek baar milte hain. Isme dobara > > > mauka > > > > > > nahin milta, to kyon na ise bachane ke liye, sambhaal kar rakhne > > > ke > > > > liye > > > > > > hi sangharsh kare. Uske liye sahi raaste par chalkar - jaisa ki > > > > Bhagwan > > > > > > ne hame sikhaya hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > Will someone like to add to this? > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > Naresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. 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