Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Respected Bhaskar Ji, Lets do this I had requested her new person a birth detail & please help me out by matching both of there kundali & tell whether they should get marry or not? Second thing is since 3rd marriage is with figure 3 like teen bigada kaam do you think we could do marriage to pipal tree & then 4th time with this man? let me get detail of both & then please help them ok thanks rashmi Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:04:32 AM Re: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE?? DEAR RASHMIJI, Let us be true to the issue and not unnecessary create a "problem in others" when the problem is with "ones own self ". Anybody when told about any girl that she is looking for a 3rd marriage would laugh at the girl and consider her only as having problems rather than the husbands she has left. Nobody in his right senses would want to marry the girl who has got 2 Divorces already. Of course this does not mean that we dont have sypmathy for the girl, or that she is not entitled to live a happy married Life. We have sympathies for her. But this is for sure, that the girl would herself have problems either in her persona, personality which of course must be reflected in her Birth Chart, which have to be rectified to thelimits allowed by her destiny, rather than just keep on marrying and divorcing at the drop of a hat. When Neelamji says that she has " seen it all ", then what wrong has she said I am unable to fathom, because she has seen two husbands, seen married Life multiplied x 2, seen 2 heart breaks, had physical union with 2 different bodies as husband, now looking for a third union in a possible suitable suitor, so HAS SHE NOT SEEN ALL ? or do you mean only those with happy married Lves have seen all ? Then you will find that 99% of the world has not seen anything at all, for this 99% constitues only unhappy mariages. What is truth, let us say it, instead of defending something which is not truth. Hope you get my point. Instead of defending the girl, try setting the things right in her case, and rectify the grey areas in her chart, to the extent allowed by her destiny, and do not try fooling around with she is this, he is that, and the other writer is this or that. Sorry, but I talk straight. Bhaskar. , rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ ...> wrote:>> Respected guru ji,> You are right she is my niece & I had seen her getting emotional on marriages & this time she had found which he also been divorce 2 times & both of thems 2nd marriage was identically same cause of divorce & since both are scared of getting marring 3rd time they are v concern, conservative, thinking deep, asking family members,pundits in london & ready to do religious things told by panditjis [poojas, sloaks, fasting,wearing gems all]> I think we as a normal person who had not suffered from divorce can think like what neelamji thinks that she had seen all & why she would go for 3rd time but she is only 34 young beautifull very sensible girl,supporting her self > also she dont like to hang arround with any hanky panky person like that since you she is young & alone that some guys can come & take advantage of her & she some times feels out in world there are bad intational people in our on society you know what i mean,she feel she really needs partner & be succesfull in marriage & built her own family> as she loves kids & she says she wish she would have kid of her own to complet her as women so this time regarless she at 34 would try for kid right away with out awaiting how her marriage is going to be?> She being staying in london seen lots of single girls going in wrong ways & she hates that in her life to even think> she thinks its differnt story my marriage didnt work but religiously she was with her husband not changing man in her life like bad girls, she as women & more cultural,religious wanted to live right life not where some one is going to point her fingure. so please tell whats wrong of her thinking of marrying 3rd time? we as family all support her dicesion to she her happy & we will for sure because we know her very well.> thanks> rashmi> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> bhagvatjee bhagvatjee@. ..> > Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:14:32 AM> Re: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE??> > > Dear Neelam Ji> Jaya Siyaa Raam> I am sorry to differ you in this regard that a girl who has seen two > divorces "has seen all". I do not know about that girl that how and > in which circumstances that girl was divirced but it is not necessary > that she has seen all.> > And even if she has seen all, and she is still young, means of 30-40 > years of age, she must get married if she can. Loneliness which comes > with maturity itself is disease. I am not saying that she must get > married and divorce again, but if she can marry and live with > somebody, it is always better for physical and mental health.> > With regards> Sushma> > , neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > You know that was just a dig on marriage, not on any person. Just > shared> > some lighter moments on this. We have victims of so many > calamities, what> > about marital victims?> > > > I was not commenting on the ritual part or the remedial measures to > ward of> > any dosha. I am not competent to comment on that. I was just > concerned about> > the unending desires that we have.> > It is all right if a still unmarried girl is found to have a dosha > and she> > performs remedies to get married. But after two divorces... one has > seen> > all.> > > > Hope you get my point. And others too... my apologies if I've hurt > anyone.> > > > Best Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/17 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > My Views -> > >> > > These may differ from those of Neelamji and Gauravji, does not > matter. They> > > are both respected and each has his individual views, and so do I > have> > > mines. In our tradition, certain doshas are removed before > marriage by> > > marrying the girl to a pipala tree or a pot before actual > marriage to a boy,> > > and I do not consider them obselete or non-consequential, because > they are> > > carried down by traditions and a part of our Heritage, so it does > not matter> > > to me to pay to a Pandit a small amount of money for such rituals > if the> > > dosha is removed ( Or considered to be reomoved ). This is just > like Kala> > > sarpa Pooja for Kala sarpa dosham nivarana. I dont mind spending > personally> > > for removal of such doshas, because at least after paying few > thousand> > > rupees , unncessary suspicions are removed from ones mind and he > stays> > > comfortable that I have done what I could, and rest God knows. I > have> > > personally been witness, and also a part of such rituals and so I > confirm to> > > these rituals.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Dear Rashmi ji, 1) I do not do Horoscope matchings on "Free Mode" , you may read this mentioned on the Home Page. You may avail my professional services for the same if you wish.This is a intricate issue and not to be taken light advice on Internet forums. 2) talki ng of 3 means bigade hue kaam, do those people who have 3 children, throw the 3rd child away. Dont You eat 3 Phulkas ( Chapattis) anytime ? Dont You eat 3 papads or Khakras any time ? C ' mon this is all bakwaas. Yes one should not go in a group of 3 when going to see a prospective bride or groom, and the number of persons in the group must be even. One should not take 3 Chapattis at a time in the plate. One should not do many other such things....... but dont you know what one card player gets , when he has 3 Aces ? And 3 marriages are not being done together ? So just forget such silly objections. 3) Pipal tree and marriage to a kalash etc is actually done for Mangal dosha as Neelamji rightly said, and not for such matters in todays modern world when one goes for divorce due to ones inherent incapibilities to adjust or bear the hardships which enters ones Life after the initial first 6 months of lovey dovey honeymoon and sensual pleasures is over, and the torn pockets start appearing and recognised by each other. 4) You must take help of a professional astrologer who will give you proper guidance about the new match, and also whether the time is ripe for the girl to enter into a wedlock at this juncture, or when ? regards/bhaskar. , rashmi patel <rashmihpatel wrote:>> Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > Lets do this I had requested her new person a birth detail & please help me out by matching both of there kundali> & tell whether they should get marry or not? > Second thing is since 3rd marriage is with figure 3 like teen bigada kaam > do you think we could do marriage to pipal tree & then 4th time with this man?> > let me get detail of both & then please help them ok> thanks> rashmi> > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:04:32 AM> Re: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE??> > > DEAR RASHMIJI,> Let us be true to the issue and not unnecessary create a "problem in others" when the problem is with "ones own self ". > Anybody when told about any girl that she is looking for a 3rd marriage would laugh at the girl and consider her only as having problems rather than the husbands she has left. Nobody in his right senses would want to marry the girl who has got 2 Divorces already. Of course this does not mean that we dont have sypmathy for the girl, or that she is not entitled to live a happy married Life. We have sympathies for her. But this is for sure, that the girl would herself have problems either in her persona, personality which of course must be reflected in her Birth Chart, which have to be rectified to thelimits allowed by her destiny, rather than just keep on marrying and divorcing at the drop of a hat. > When Neelamji says that she has " seen it all ", then what wrong has she said I am unable to fathom, because she has seen two husbands, seen married Life multiplied x 2, seen 2 heart breaks, had physical union with 2 different bodies as husband, now looking for a third union in a possible suitable suitor, so HAS SHE NOT SEEN ALL ? or do you mean only those with happy married Lves have seen all ? Then you will find that 99% of the world has not seen anything at all, for this 99% constitues only unhappy mariages. > What is truth, let us say it, instead of defending something which is not truth.> Hope you get my point.> Instead of defending the girl, try setting the things right in her case, and rectify the grey areas in her chart, to the extent allowed by her destiny, and do not try fooling around with she is this, he is that, and the other writer is this or that.> Sorry, but I talk straight.> Bhaskar.> > > , rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ ...> wrote:> >> > Respected guru ji,> > You are right she is my niece & I had seen her getting emotional on marriages & this time she had found which he also been divorce 2 times & both of thems 2nd marriage was identically same cause of divorce & since both are scared of getting marring 3rd time they are v concern, conservative, thinking deep, asking family members,pundits in london & ready to do religious things told by panditjis [poojas, sloaks, fasting,wearing gems all]> > I think we as a normal person who had not suffered from divorce can think like what neelamji thinks that she had seen all & why she would go for 3rd time but she is only 34 young beautifull very sensible girl,supporting her self > > also she dont like to hang arround with any hanky panky person like that since you she is young & alone that some guys can come & take advantage of her & she some times feels out in world there are bad intational people in our on society you know what i mean,she feel she really needs partner & be succesfull in marriage & built her own family> > as she loves kids & she says she wish she would have kid of her own to complet her as women so this time regarless she at 34 would try for kid right away with out awaiting how her marriage is going to be?> > She being staying in london seen lots of single girls going in wrong ways & she hates that in her life to even think> > she thinks its differnt story my marriage didnt work but religiously she was with her husband not changing man in her life like bad girls, she as women & more cultural,religious wanted to live right life not where some one is going to point her fingure. so please tell whats wrong of her thinking of marrying 3rd time? we as family all support her dicesion to she her happy & we will for sure because we know her very well.> > thanks> > rashmi> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > bhagvatjee bhagvatjee@ ..> > > > Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:14:32 AM> > Re: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE??> > > > > > Dear Neelam Ji> > Jaya Siyaa Raam> > I am sorry to differ you in this regard that a girl who has seen two > > divorces "has seen all". I do not know about that girl that how and > > in which circumstances that girl was divirced but it is not necessary > > that she has seen all.> > > > And even if she has seen all, and she is still young, means of 30-40 > > years of age, she must get married if she can. Loneliness which comes > > with maturity itself is disease. I am not saying that she must get > > married and divorce again, but if she can marry and live with > > somebody, it is always better for physical and mental health.> > > > With regards> > Sushma> > > > , neelam gupta > > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > You know that was just a dig on marriage, not on any person. Just > > shared> > > some lighter moments on this. We have victims of so many > > calamities, what> > > about marital victims?> > > > > > I was not commenting on the ritual part or the remedial measures to > > ward of> > > any dosha. I am not competent to comment on that. I was just > > concerned about> > > the unending desires that we have.> > > It is all right if a still unmarried girl is found to have a dosha > > and she> > > performs remedies to get married. But after two divorces... one has > > seen> > > all.> > > > > > Hope you get my point. And others too... my apologies if I've hurt > > anyone.> > > > > > Best Regards> > > Neelam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/17 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > My Views -> > > >> > > > These may differ from those of Neelamji and Gauravji, does not > > matter. They> > > > are both respected and each has his individual views, and so do I > > have> > > > mines. In our tradition, certain doshas are removed before > > marriage by> > > > marrying the girl to a pipala tree or a pot before actual > > marriage to a boy,> > > > and I do not consider them obselete or non-consequential, because > > they are> > > > carried down by traditions and a part of our Heritage, so it does > > not matter> > > > to me to pay to a Pandit a small amount of money for such rituals > > if the> > > > dosha is removed ( Or considered to be reomoved ). This is just > > like Kala> > > > sarpa Pooja for Kala sarpa dosham nivarana. I dont mind spending > > personally> > > > for removal of such doshas, because at least after paying few > > thousand> > > > rupees , unncessary suspicions are removed from ones mind and he > > stays> > > > comfortable that I have done what I could, and rest God knows. I > > have> > > > personally been witness, and also a part of such rituals and so I > > confirm to> > > > these rituals.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Respected kotak ji, its wembley in london & yes it is 13th night & 14th morning at 01;30 am its 14 july 1975 also the person she sees his detail is 17th july 1969, at 01;30 pm birth place london uk his father died when he was 8 yrs old 1st marriage in 1990 n got divorce less then 11 months 2nd marriage in 1998 n got divorce also less then 11 months so please advise me ok rashmi ________________________________ pdk kotak <ganeshji101 Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:48:08 AM Re: Fw: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE?? Respected lady, Can u clarify the following points: 1. Proper place of birth as London is big city. Like acton or harrow of upton park etc., 2. date is 14th - march 1975 - time being 1/30 a.m. is it the morning of 14th and night of 13th ? please clarify regards pdk --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > wrote: rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > Fw: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE?? Cc: vedic astrology Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 6:53 PM ----- Forwarded Message ---- rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:49:28 PM Re: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE?? Respected Gurujis Thanks for reply, let me tell you some more of her life ok then you tell me that why should she think of 3rd time Reena actually is born in london had 2 more sisters no brother she lost her mom when she was 14 yrs old father had never lived with any of girls at all since he leaves in dubai & busy with his businesses they do get along ok she lives by her self in london doing good with work to support her but she always feel like when she go home she gets so lonely setting in 4 walls & then always gets thinking of her pervious nasty marriages & gets hurted [heart wise] Now here she finds a person who is also divorced 2 times from his marriage so she right stays little happy & not yet ready since she is scared of marriage but thinks if i am going to hang arround with him i might as well get married so this the reason please check her kundali BIRTH DATE== 14 MARCH 1975 BIRTH TIME== 01;30 AM PLACE= LONDON UK LOST MOM ON 4 MARCH 1989 & FATHER NOT STAYED WITH THEM SINCE OUT OF COUNTRY 1ST MARRIAGE 1999 LASTED 2 MONTHS 2ND MARRIAGE 2003 LASTED 1 YEAR OR SO NO BROTHER & 2 sisters Now please tell me her marriage life again going to be ok or not?? thanks rashmi ____________ _________ _________ __ neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:29:52 AM Re: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE?? Dear Rashmi, What is so great about marriage that your niece, after being twice married and divorced, is ready to get married even to a tree so that she may get married again the fourth time?? When we have unreasonable wants and desires, the world would exploit us, what to talk of Badnaam Pundits!!! Best Wishes Neelam 2009/2/17 rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > Respected guruji, My niece had two times divorce & some panditji told her that now she had to marry to pipal tree because then & then only you would be consider 4th marriage as succusfull marriage IS THIS TRUE?? SHE SHOULD GET MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE? PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THIS WHETHER TO BELIVE IT OR NOT? HAD ANY ONE HEARD THIS BEFORE TO MARRY PIPAL TREE ON YOURS THIRD MARRIAGE.PLEASE LET ME KNOW OK thanks rashmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Respected Neelamji, Please do not pass value judgements. What may seem unreasonable to one may be the crucial point of existence for the other. The question and query needs to be addressed rather than profess a moral code on the querist. Regards Vats From: gaurav.ghoshDate: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:39:37 +0000 Re: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE?? , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07wrote:>> Dear Rashmi,> > What is so great about marriage that your niece, after being twicemarried> and divorced, is ready to get married even to a tree so that she may get> married again the fourth time??> > When we have unreasonable wants and desires, the world would exploit us,> what to talk of Badnaam Pundits!!!> > Best Wishes> Neelam> > > > 2009/2/17 rashmi patel <rashmihpatel> > > Respected guruji,> >> > My niece had two times divorce & some panditji told her that nowshe had to> > marry to pipal tree because then & then only you would be consider 4th> > marriage as succusfull marriage> > IS THIS TRUE??> > SHE SHOULD GET MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE?> > PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THIS WHETHER TO BELIVE IT OR NOT?> > HAD ANY ONE HEARD THIS BEFORE TO MARRY PIPAL TREE ON YOURS THIRD> > MARRIAGE.PLEASE LET ME KNOW OK> > thanks> > rashmi> >> >> > > >> Akshay Kumar takes on the two reigning Bollywood Khans. Catch the action on MSN Entertainment! Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Mr. Vats,I do not know which message you're referring to. But let me tell you that I would be the last one to profess any moral code, for I do not believe in them myself. Just like others were expressing their opinion, I did mine. Yes, certainly when people come to us with wrong notions and priorities, do you want us to guide them on the same wrong path? Why do you think one studies this divine science? If a thief comes to me for asking a good time for carrying out his operations? What should be done? Give him a good muhurta so that he's successful because it is not my moral duty to tell him he's wrong?? Why didn't you ask the poster when she made the statement //Loneliness which comes with maturity itself is disease.// You want me to accept this statement? Sorry I don't work with your mind.I had made it clear that I am not asking anyone to agree with me. But I do know that many of us do not have our priorities right and hence suffer miserably mostly for no reason. Hope I have made myself clear. I am sorry if I have hurt you in any way.Neelam2009/2/20 PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip Respected Neelamji, Please do not pass value judgements. What may seem unreasonable to one may be the crucial point of existence for the other. The question and query needs to be addressed rather than profess a moral code on the querist. Regards Vats From: gaurav.ghoshDate: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:39:37 +0000 Re: MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE?? , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07wrote:>> Dear Rashmi,> > What is so great about marriage that your niece, after being twicemarried > and divorced, is ready to get married even to a tree so that she may get> married again the fourth time??> > When we have unreasonable wants and desires, the world would exploit us,> what to talk of Badnaam Pundits!!! > > Best Wishes> Neelam> > > > 2009/2/17 rashmi patel <rashmihpatel> > > Respected guruji,> >> > My niece had two times divorce & some panditji told her that now she had to> > marry to pipal tree because then & then only you would be consider 4th> > marriage as succusfull marriage> > IS THIS TRUE??> > SHE SHOULD GET MARRY TO A PIPAL TREE? > > PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THIS WHETHER TO BELIVE IT OR NOT?> > HAD ANY ONE HEARD THIS BEFORE TO MARRY PIPAL TREE ON YOURS THIRD> > MARRIAGE.PLEASE LET ME KNOW OK> > thanks> > rashmi > >> >> > > >> Akshay Kumar takes on the two reigning Bollywood Khans. Catch the action on MSN Entertainment! Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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