Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Sir(s)I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s group.what it is ?usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was 00:06:07 AM of 12th June .I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination.and whatever he told me nothing ever came to fruition.my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family many people were there when i was to be born.such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then why in KP system BTR is given so importance?regardssiddhartha saxenaThis mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal Dear Neelam ji. Thanks for the mail. I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id. If we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am a professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my private id. Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which has already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been sent to the party concerned. regards, bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish to clarify > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent on my > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am not a > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining anyone on my > personal id. > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit attention > from any one else. > > Regards > Neelam > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > Thanks for explaining. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > <% 40. com>, > > siddhartha saxaena > > numerology_works@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the query in > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s why i had > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have answered my > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me. > > > > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to do the > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might slip my > > mail.thats all. > > > > > > warm regards > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 question > > .but > > > i got reply from bhaskarji // > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry for > > replying > > > you then. You should have told me on phone that Your query is > > addressed > > > to Neelamji especially. > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading now. I am > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are unanswered. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji > > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that belief of > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself states > > that > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he denied it and > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what his > > stars > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these times?I > > havent > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is running for > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great culture and > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient > > knowledge > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him only in > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people in > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very difficult brain > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back to > > zero.I > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly believe > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a tree.You > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take filmmakers,take > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those have > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift" which > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned.A. R.Rehman, Sachin > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed akhtar,Arnold > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big big > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die spirit in > > > their own fields.. > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine sachin > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or taxi > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed to be > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the most > > > important thing.. > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more clearly > > that > > > for others.They keep pursuing it. > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the purview > > of > > > this mail. > > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 question ..but > > i > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you poeple > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing this > > good > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner support worth > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need . > > > > > > > > My most warm regards > > > > sidhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ... > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji, > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that barring > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*. > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Gaurav. > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > > ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena, > > > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my > > > experiences in > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only person on > > > > this earth > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything acccording to > > > his > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view about kp.// > > > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am not at > > all > > > > denying > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary > > astrologers. > > > But > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very clear. > > > > Please be > > > > > kind enough to explain. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the straight tone > > > > you always > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos. > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free be it > > 1+1 > > > > schemes > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially when it > > > comes to > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be free of > > > > charge and > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two. > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an astrologer is > > a > > > > human > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is > > > concerned- > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360 > > degrees,12 > > > > rashis,9 > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord if you > > do > > > > practice KP > > > > > > paddhati. > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low when > > > > talking to a > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are harming > > > ourselves > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do believe > > > > that after > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius and not so > > > > is his > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it. > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my > > > experiences in > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only person on > > > > this earth > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything acccording to > > > his > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view about kp. > > > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and keep > > > > doing what > > > > > > you are . > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > > siddhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the Group, so > > > > that their > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few members I > > > > cannit change > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a beggar for me > > > > and Icannot > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant". > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my place > > and > > > > then > > > > > > talk. > > > > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am justified. > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask them, what > > > > are their > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the day in > > > > serving the > > > > > > society ? > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk and avise, > > > > or else > > > > > > they are free to leave. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my point is > > > > sent to the > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it.. IfI I use > > > > diplomatic > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not honest. > > > > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own Forum so > > > > thats why i > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47" > > rekharao47@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are a > > > astrologer > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them dont > > reply > > > > ignore > > > > > > > > the mail > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN THIS > > WORLD > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT HAPPY > > WITH > > > > THEIR > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE . > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > > > > R.RAO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > > > > now.<http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > > //messenger. > > > / invite/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger > > at > > > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Siddarthaji, I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me doing KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then of course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its importance. You can write to the members there too about this. About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have been given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or minus. Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this year, though you will have to do the searching yourself. regards/Bhaskar. regards, Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote: > > > > Sir(s) > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s group.what it is ? > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was 00:06:07 AM of 12th June . > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination.and whatever he told me nothing ever came to fruition. > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family many people were there when i was to be born. > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then why in KP system BTR is given so importance? > > regards > siddhartha saxena > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > Dear Neelam ji. > > Thanks for the mail. > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id. If > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am a > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my private > id. > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which has > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been > sent to the party concerned. > > regards, > > bhaskar. > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ....> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish to > clarify > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent on my > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am not a > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining anyone > on my > > personal id. > > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit > attention > > from any one else. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > Thanks for explaining. > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > siddhartha saxaena > > > numerology_works@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the > query in > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s why i > had > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have answered > my > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to do > the > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might > slip my > > > mail.thats all. > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 question > > > .but > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji // > > > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry for > > > replying > > > > you then. You should have told me on phone that Your query is > > > addressed > > > > to Neelamji especially. > > > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading now. I > am > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are unanswered. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that belief > of > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself states > > > that > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he denied it > and > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what his > > > stars > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these times?I > > > havent > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is running > for > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great culture > and > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient > > > knowledge > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him only > in > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people in > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very difficult > brain > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back to > > > zero.I > > > > had metioned " intution " in that note of mine which i strongly > believe > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a > tree.You > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take filmmakers,take > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those have > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also " God gift " > which > > > > turns to " intuition " if prediction is concerned.A. R.Rehman, > Sachin > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed > akhtar,Arnold > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big big > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die spirit > in > > > > their own fields.. > > > > > I believe in " Purusharth " no doubt ,but can you imagine sachin > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or > taxi > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed to be > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the most > > > > important thing.. > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more clearly > > > that > > > > for others.They keep pursuing it. > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the > purview > > > of > > > > this mail. > > > > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 question > .but > > > i > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you > poeple > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing > this > > > good > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner support > worth > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need . > > > > > > > > > > My most warm regards > > > > > sidhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ... > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji, > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that > barring > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*. > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena? > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Gaurav. > > > > > , neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@ > > > > ...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena, > > > > > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book " my > > > > experiences in > > > > > > astrology " and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only person > on > > > > > this earth > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything acccording > to > > > > his > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view about > kp.// > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am not > at > > > all > > > > > denying > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary > > > astrologers. > > > > But > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very > clear. > > > > > Please be > > > > > > kind enough to explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the straight > tone > > > > > you always > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos. > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free be > it > > > 1+1 > > > > > schemes > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially when > it > > > > comes to > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be free > of > > > > > charge and > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two. > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an > astrologer is > > > a > > > > > human > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is > > > > concerned- > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360 > > > degrees,12 > > > > > rashis,9 > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord if > you > > > do > > > > > practice KP > > > > > > > paddhati. > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low > when > > > > > talking to a > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are > harming > > > > ourselves > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do > believe > > > > > that after > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius and > not so > > > > > is his > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it. > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book " my > > > > experiences in > > > > > > > astrology " and to my utteu dismay i find him the only person > on > > > > > this earth > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything > acccording to > > > > his > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view about > kp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and > keep > > > > > doing what > > > > > > > you are . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the > Group, so > > > > > that their > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few members I > > > > > cannit change > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a beggar > for me > > > > > and Icannot > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my > place > > > and > > > > > then > > > > > > > talk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am justified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask them, > what > > > > > are their > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the day > in > > > > > serving the > > > > > > > society ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk and > avise, > > > > > or else > > > > > > > they are free to leave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my point > is > > > > > sent to the > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it. IfI I > use > > > > > diplomatic > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not honest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own Forum > so > > > > > thats why i > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rekharao47 " > > > rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are a > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them dont > > > reply > > > > > ignore > > > > > > > > > the mail > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN THIS > > > WORLD > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT HAPPY > > > WITH > > > > > THEIR > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE . > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > > > > > R.RAO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > > > //messenger. > > > > / invite/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > Messenger > > > at > > > > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with astrology.greatttt.I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no comments on that?warm regardssiddhartha saxena This mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM Re: birth time rectification Dear Siddarthaji, I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me doing KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then of course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its importance. You can write to the members there too about this. About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have been given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or minus. Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this year, though you will have to do the searching yourself. regards/Bhaskar. regards, Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works > wrote: > > > > Sir(s) > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s group.what it is ? > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was 00:06:07 AM of 12th June . > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told me nothing ever came to fruition. > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family many people were there when i was to be born. > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then why in KP system BTR is given so importance? > > regards > siddhartha saxena > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > Dear Neelam ji. > > Thanks for the mail. > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id. If > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am a > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my private > id. > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which has > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been > sent to the party concerned. > > regards, > > bhaskar. > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ....> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish to > clarify > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent on my > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group.. I am not a > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining anyone > on my > > personal id. > > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit > attention > > from any one else. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > Thanks for explaining. > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > siddhartha saxaena > > > numerology_works@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the > query in > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s why i > had > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have answered > my > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to do > the > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might > slip my > > > mail.thats all. > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 question > > > .but > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji // > > > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry for > > > replying > > > > you then. You should have told me on phone that Your query is > > > addressed > > > > to Neelamji especially. > > > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading now. I > am > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are unanswered. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that belief > of > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself states > > > that > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he denied it > and > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what his > > > stars > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these times?I > > > havent > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is running > for > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great culture > and > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient > > > knowledge > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him only > in > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people in > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very difficult > brain > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back to > > > zero.I > > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly > believe > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a > tree.You > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take filmmakers,take > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those have > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift" > which > > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned.A. R.Rehman, > Sachin > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed > akhtar,Arnold > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big big > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die spirit > in > > > > their own fields.. > > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine sachin > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or > taxi > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed to be > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the most > > > > important thing.. > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more clearly > > > that > > > > for others.They keep pursuing it. > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the > purview > > > of > > > > this mail. > > > > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 question > .but > > > i > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you > poeple > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing > this > > > good > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner support > worth > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need . > > > > > > > > > > My most warm regards > > > > > sidhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ... > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji, > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that > barring > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*. > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena? > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Gaurav. > > > > > , neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@ > > > > ...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena, > > > > > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my > > > > experiences in > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only person > on > > > > > this earth > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything acccording > to > > > > his > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view about > kp.// > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am not > at > > > all > > > > > denying > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary > > > astrologers. > > > > But > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very > clear. > > > > > Please be > > > > > > kind enough to explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the straight > tone > > > > > you always > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos. > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free be > it > > > 1+1 > > > > > schemes > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially when > it > > > > comes to > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be free > of > > > > > charge and > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two. > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an > astrologer is > > > a > > > > > human > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is > > > > concerned- > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360 > > > degrees,12 > > > > > rashis,9 > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord if > you > > > do > > > > > practice KP > > > > > > > paddhati.. > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low > when > > > > > talking to a > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are > harming > > > > ourselves > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do > believe > > > > > that after > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius and > not so > > > > > is his > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it. > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my > > > > experiences in > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only person > on > > > > > this earth > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything > acccording to > > > > his > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view about > kp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and > keep > > > > > doing what > > > > > > > you are . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the > Group, so > > > > > that their > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few members I > > > > > cannit change > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a beggar > for me > > > > > and Icannot > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my > place > > > and > > > > > then > > > > > > > talk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am justified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask them, > what > > > > > are their > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the day > in > > > > > serving the > > > > > > > society ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk and > avise, > > > > > or else > > > > > > > they are free to leave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my point > is > > > > > sent to the > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it. IfI I > use > > > > > diplomatic > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not honest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own Forum > so > > > > > thats why i > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47" > > > rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are a > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them dont > > > reply > > > > > ignore > > > > > > > > > the mail > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN THIS > > > WORLD > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT HAPPY > > > WITH > > > > > THEIR > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE . > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > > > > > R.RAO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > > > //messenger. > > > > / invite/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > Messenger > > > at > > > > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > Check out the all-new face of India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Siddarthaji, You must let me know specifically what you wish me to comment on, and if you are talking about Vedic astrology, then I am beginning a course on same in Jan 2010, if all goes well. In the meanwhile you let me know on what do you wish to discuss on. If You wish me to initiate a quiz then I very well do it. But I believe in simple quizzes. regards, Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote: > > Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with astrology.greatttt. > I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no comments on that? > warm regards > siddhartha saxena > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM > Re: birth time rectification > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me doing > KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then of > course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its > importance. You can write to the members there too about this. > > About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have been > given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd > tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or > minus. > > Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the > rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do > this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are > given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various > groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this year, > though you will have to do the searching yourself. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , siddhartha saxaena > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir(s) > > > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s > group.what it is ? > > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need > arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was > 00:06:07 AM of 12th June . > > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth > time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two > days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to > impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told me > nothing ever came to fruition. > > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family > many people were there when i was to be born. > > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then > why in KP system BTR is given so importance? > > > > regards > > siddhartha saxena > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji. > > > > Thanks for the mail. > > > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id. > If > > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am a > > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my > private > > id. > > > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which > has > > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been > > sent to the party concerned. > > > > regards, > > > > bhaskar. > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish to > > clarify > > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent on > my > > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am not > a > > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining > anyone > > on my > > > personal id. > > > > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit > > attention > > > from any one else. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > siddhartha saxaena > > > > numerology_works@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > > > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the > > query in > > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s why > i > > had > > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have > answered > > my > > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is > > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to do > > the > > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might > > slip my > > > > mail.thats all. > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 > question > > > > .but > > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji // > > > > > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry for > > > > replying > > > > > you then.. You should have told me on phone that Your query is > > > > addressed > > > > > to Neelamji especially. > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading now. > I > > am > > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are unanswered. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that > belief > > of > > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself > states > > > > that > > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he denied > it > > and > > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what > his > > > > stars > > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these times?I > > > > havent > > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is > running > > for > > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great > culture > > and > > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient > > > > knowledge > > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him > only > > in > > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people > in > > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very difficult > > brain > > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back to > > > > zero.I > > > > > had metioned " intution " in that note of mine which i strongly > > believe > > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we > > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a > > tree.You > > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take filmmakers,take > > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those > have > > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also " God gift " > > which > > > > > turns to " intuition " if prediction is concerned..A. R.Rehman, > > Sachin > > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed > > akhtar,Arnold > > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big big > > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat > > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die > spirit > > in > > > > > their own fields.. > > > > > > I believe in " Purusharth " no doubt ,but can you imagine sachin > > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or > > taxi > > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed to > be > > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the > most > > > > > important thing.. > > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more > clearly > > > > that > > > > > for others..They keep pursuing it. > > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the > > purview > > > > of > > > > > this mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 > question > > .but > > > > i > > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you > > poeple > > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing > > this > > > > good > > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner support > > worth > > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need . > > > > > > > > > > > > My most warm regards > > > > > > sidhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji, > > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that > > barring > > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*. > > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Gaurav. > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > <neelamgupta07@ > > > > > ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book " my > > > > > experiences in > > > > > > > astrology " and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only > person > > on > > > > > > this earth > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything > acccording > > to > > > > > his > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view about > > kp.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am not > > at > > > > all > > > > > > denying > > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary > > > > astrologers. > > > > > But > > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very > > clear. > > > > > > Please be > > > > > > > kind enough to explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the > straight > > tone > > > > > > you always > > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos. > > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free be > > it > > > > 1+1 > > > > > > schemes > > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially when > > it > > > > > comes to > > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be > free > > of > > > > > > charge and > > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two. > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an > > astrologer is > > > > a > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is > > > > > concerned- > > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360 > > > > degrees,12 > > > > > > rashis,9 > > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord if > > you > > > > do > > > > > > practice KP > > > > > > > > paddhati. > > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low > > when > > > > > > talking to a > > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are > > harming > > > > > ourselves > > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do > > believe > > > > > > that after > > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius and > > not so > > > > > > is his > > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it. > > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book " my > > > > > experiences in > > > > > > > > astrology " and to my utteu dismay i find him the only > person > > on > > > > > > this earth > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything > > acccording to > > > > > his > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view > about > > kp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and > > keep > > > > > > doing what > > > > > > > > you are . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the > > Group, so > > > > > > that their > > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few members > I > > > > > > cannit change > > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a beggar > > for me > > > > > > and Icannot > > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my > > place > > > > and > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > talk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am > justified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask > them, > > what > > > > > > are their > > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the > day > > in > > > > > > serving the > > > > > > > > society ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk and > > avise, > > > > > > or else > > > > > > > > they are free to leave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my > point > > is > > > > > > sent to the > > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it. IfI > I > > use > > > > > > diplomatic > > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not honest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own Forum > > so > > > > > > thats why i > > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rekharao47 " > > > > rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM > > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are a > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them > dont > > > > reply > > > > > > ignore > > > > > > > > > > the mail > > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS > > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN > THIS > > > > WORLD > > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME > > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT > HAPPY > > > > WITH > > > > > > THEIR > > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE . > > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED > LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > > > > > > R.RAO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > > > > //messenger. > > > > > / invite/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > > Messenger > > > > at > > > > > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > http://in.promos.. / groups/citygroup s/ > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear SirI had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation",also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrologer,sports star,actor etc etc in general.Regarding the quiz it is my request that if you start it then make a rule also that who so ever is telling that mr x is going to be the PM then the astrological reason and logic also should accompany with it.It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field.Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home?Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends.warm regardssiddhartha saxena This mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 11:38:40 AM Re: birth time rectification Dear Siddarthaji, You must let me know specifically what you wish me to comment on, and if you are talking about Vedic astrology, then I am beginning a course on same in Jan 2010, if all goes well. In the meanwhile you let me know on what do you wish to discuss on. If You wish me to initiate a quiz then I very well do it. But I believe in simple quizzes. regards, Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works > wrote: > > Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with astrology.greatttt. > I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no comments on that? > warm regards > siddhartha saxena > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM > Re: birth time rectification > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me doing > KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then of > course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its > importance. You can write to the members there too about this. > > About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have been > given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd > tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or > minus. > > Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the > rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do > this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are > given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various > groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this year, > though you will have to do the searching yourself. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , siddhartha saxaena > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir(s) > > > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s > group.what it is ? > > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need > arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was > 00:06:07 AM of 12th June . > > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth > time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two > days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to > impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told me > nothing ever came to fruition. > > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family > many people were there when i was to be born. > > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then > why in KP system BTR is given so importance? > > > > regards > > siddhartha saxena > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji. > > > > Thanks for the mail. > > > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id. > If > > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am a > > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my > private > > id. > > > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which > has > > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been > > sent to the party concerned. > > > > regards, > > > > bhaskar. > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish to > > clarify > > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent on > my > > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am not > a > > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining > anyone > > on my > > > personal id. > > > > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit > > attention > > > from any one else. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > siddhartha saxaena > > > > numerology_works@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > > > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the > > query in > > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s why > i > > had > > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have > answered > > my > > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is > > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to do > > the > > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might > > slip my > > > > mail.thats all. > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji, > > > > > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 > question > > > > .but > > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji // > > > > > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry for > > > > replying > > > > > you then.. You should have told me on phone that Your query is > > > > addressed > > > > > to Neelamji especially. > > > > > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading now. > I > > am > > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are unanswered. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena > > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji > > > > > > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that > belief > > of > > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself > states > > > > that > > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he denied > it > > and > > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what > his > > > > stars > > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these times?I > > > > havent > > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is > running > > for > > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great > culture > > and > > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient > > > > knowledge > > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him > only > > in > > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people > in > > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very difficult > > brain > > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back to > > > > zero.I > > > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly > > believe > > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we > > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a > > tree.You > > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take filmmakers,take > > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those > have > > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift" > > which > > > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned..A. R.Rehman, > > Sachin > > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed > > akhtar,Arnold > > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big big > > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat > > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die > spirit > > in > > > > > their own fields.. > > > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine sachin > > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or > > taxi > > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed to > be > > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the > most > > > > > important thing.. > > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more > clearly > > > > that > > > > > for others..They keep pursuing it. > > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the > > purview > > > > of > > > > > this mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1 > question > > .but > > > > i > > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you > > poeple > > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing > > this > > > > good > > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner support > > worth > > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need . > > > > > > > > > > > > My most warm regards > > > > > > sidhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji, > > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that > > barring > > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*. > > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Gaurav. > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > <neelamgupta07@ > > > > > ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my > > > > > experiences in > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only > person > > on > > > > > > this earth > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything > acccording > > to > > > > > his > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view about > > kp.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am not > > at > > > > all > > > > > > denying > > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary > > > > astrologers. > > > > > But > > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very > > clear. > > > > > > Please be > > > > > > > kind enough to explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the > straight > > tone > > > > > > you always > > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos. > > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free be > > it > > > > 1+1 > > > > > > schemes > > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially when > > it > > > > > comes to > > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be > free > > of > > > > > > charge and > > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two. > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an > > astrologer is > > > > a > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is > > > > > concerned- > > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360 > > > > degrees,12 > > > > > > rashis,9 > > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord if > > you > > > > do > > > > > > practice KP > > > > > > > > paddhati. > > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low > > when > > > > > > talking to a > > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are > > harming > > > > > ourselves > > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do > > believe > > > > > > that after > > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius and > > not so > > > > > > is his > > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it. > > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my > > > > > experiences in > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only > person > > on > > > > > > this earth > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything > > acccording to > > > > > his > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view > about > > kp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and > > keep > > > > > > doing what > > > > > > > > you are . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the > > Group, so > > > > > > that their > > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few members > I > > > > > > cannit change > > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a beggar > > for me > > > > > > and Icannot > > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my > > place > > > > and > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > talk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am > justified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask > them, > > what > > > > > > are their > > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the > day > > in > > > > > > serving the > > > > > > > > society ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk and > > avise, > > > > > > or else > > > > > > > > they are free to leave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my > point > > is > > > > > > sent to the > > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it. IfI > I > > use > > > > > > diplomatic > > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not honest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own Forum > > so > > > > > > thats why i > > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47" > > > > rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM > > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are a > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them > dont > > > > reply > > > > > > ignore > > > > > > > > > > the mail > > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS > > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN > THIS > > > > WORLD > > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME > > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT > HAPPY > > > > WITH > > > > > > THEIR > > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE . > > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED > LIFE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS > > > > > > > > > > R.RAO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > > > > //messenger. > > > > > / invite/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > > Messenger > > > > at > > > > > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to > http://in.promos. . / groups/citygroup s/ > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Siddartha ji, My replies in blue. // I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation" // If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India. Basicallt this is a 'akkal tippu " games and most of those who predict successfully here, do it because the options are too less, so either of the option has to win, just like in cricket games. We also do not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a meaningful discussion. // also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrologer,sports star,actor etc etc in general.// This you may ask any time and if anybody wishes here, may answer. // It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field. // This is a one man show and not a university. But will try to get approval, as of now, I do not have any such approval.// Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home? // Yes. I am planning an e course, and also interactive one, where the participants can come on a common platform and chat, and a special group for such students. // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends. // Tests will be taken weekly for the students who are enrolling. We will not move ahead unless the topics taught have not been understood. I will be taking Calculation of charts, Jataka Parijata, BPHS, and predictive Astrology for a start. Those interested in learning I dont have to check anything, I just have to check whether their cheque for my fees has been encashed in the Bank. regards, Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote:>> Dear Sir> > I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation",also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrologer,sports star,actor etc etc in general.> Regarding the quiz it is my request that if you start it then make a rule also that who so ever is telling that mr x is going to be the PM then the astrological reason and logic also should accompany with it.> > It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field.> > Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home?> Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends.> > warm regards> siddhartha saxena> > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 11:38:40 AM> Re: birth time rectification> > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > You must let me know specifically what you wish me to comment on, and if> you are talking about Vedic astrology, then I am beginning a course on> same in Jan 2010, if all goes well. In the meanwhile you let me know on> what do you wish to discuss on. If You wish me to initiate a quiz then I> very well do it. But I believe in simple quizzes.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > , siddhartha saxaena> <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> >> > Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with> astrology.greatttt.> > I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no> comments on that?> > warm regards> > siddhartha saxena> >> > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM> > Re: birth time rectification> >> >> >> > Dear Siddarthaji,> >> > I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me> doing> > KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then> of> > course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its> > importance. You can write to the members there too about this.> >> > About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have> been> > given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd> > tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or> > minus.> >> > Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the> > rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do> > this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are> > given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various> > groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this> year,> > though you will have to do the searching yourself.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> > , siddhartha saxaena> > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Sir(s)> > >> > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s> > group.what it is ?> > > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need> > arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was> > 00:06:07 AM of 12th June .> > > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth> > time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two> > days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to> > impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told> me> > nothing ever came to fruition.> > > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family> > many people were there when i was to be born.> > > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then> > why in KP system BTR is given so importance?> > >> > > regards> > > siddhartha saxena> > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM> > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Neelam ji.> > >> > > Thanks for the mail.> > >> > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id.> > If> > > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am> a> > > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my> > private> > > id.> > >> > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which> > has> > > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been> > > sent to the party concerned.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > bhaskar.> > >> > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > ...>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > >> > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish> to> > > clarify> > > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent> on> > my> > > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am> not> > a> > > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining> > anyone> > > on my> > > > personal id.> > > >> > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit> > > attention> > > > from any one else.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for explaining.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > > > > <% 40. com>,> > > > > siddhartha saxaena> > > > > numerology_works@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji> > > > > >> > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the> > > query in> > > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s> why> > i> > > had> > > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have> > answered> > > my> > > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is> > > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to> do> > > the> > > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might> > > slip my> > > > > mail.thats all.> > > > > >> > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > >> > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>> > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM> > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > >> > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > question> > > > > .but> > > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji //> > > > > >> > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry> for> > > > > replying> > > > > > you then.. You should have told me on phone that Your query is> > > > > addressed> > > > > > to Neelamji especially.> > > > > >> > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading> now.> > I> > > am> > > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are> unanswered.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that> > belief> > > of> > > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself> > states> > > > > that> > > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he> denied> > it> > > and> > > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what> > his> > > > > stars> > > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these> times?I> > > > > havent> > > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is> > running> > > for> > > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great> > culture> > > and> > > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient> > > > > knowledge> > > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him> > only> > > in> > > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people> > in> > > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very> difficult> > > brain> > > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back> to> > > > > zero.I> > > > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly> > > believe> > > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we> > > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a> > > tree.You> > > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take> filmmakers,take> > > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those> > have> > > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift"> > > which> > > > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned..A. R.Rehman,> > > Sachin> > > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed> > > akhtar,Arnold> > > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big> big> > > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat> > > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die> > spirit> > > in> > > > > > their own fields..> > > > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine> sachin> > > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or> > > taxi> > > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed> to> > be> > > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the> > most> > > > > > important thing..> > > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more> > clearly> > > > > that> > > > > > for others..They keep pursuing it.> > > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the> > > purview> > > > > of> > > > > > this mail.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > question> > > .but> > > > > i> > > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you> > > poeple> > > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing> > > this> > > > > good> > > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner> support> > > worth> > > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My most warm regards> > > > > > > sidhartha saxena> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM> > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Neelamji,> > > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that> > > barring> > > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*.> > > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena?> > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > > > Gaurav.> > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > > <neelamgupta07@> > > > > > ...>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only> > person> > > on> > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything> > acccording> > > to> > > > > > his> > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> about> > > kp.//> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am> not> > > at> > > > > all> > > > > > > denying> > > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary> > > > > astrologers.> > > > > > But> > > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very> > > clear.> > > > > > > Please be> > > > > > > > kind enough to explain.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the> > straight> > > tone> > > > > > > you always> > > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos.> > > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free> be> > > it> > > > > 1+1> > > > > > > schemes> > > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially> when> > > it> > > > > > comes to> > > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be> > free> > > of> > > > > > > charge and> > > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two.> > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an> > > astrologer is> > > > > a> > > > > > > human> > > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is> > > > > > concerned-> > > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360> > > > > degrees,12> > > > > > > rashis,9> > > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord> if> > > you> > > > > do> > > > > > > practice KP> > > > > > > > > paddhati.> > > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low> > > when> > > > > > > talking to a> > > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are> > > harming> > > > > > ourselves> > > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do> > > believe> > > > > > > that after> > > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius> and> > > not so> > > > > > > is his> > > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it.> > > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only> > person> > > on> > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything> > > acccording to> > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > about> > > kp.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and> > > keep> > > > > > > doing what> > > > > > > > > you are .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM> > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the> > > Group, so> > > > > > > that their> > > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few> members> > I> > > > > > > cannit change> > > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a> beggar> > > for me> > > > > > > and Icannot> > > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant".> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my> > > place> > > > > and> > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > talk.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am> > justified.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask> > them,> > > what> > > > > > > are their> > > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the> > day> > > in> > > > > > > serving the> > > > > > > > > society ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk> and> > > avise,> > > > > > > or else> > > > > > > > > they are free to leave.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my> > point> > > is> > > > > > > sent to the> > > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it.> IfI> > I> > > use> > > > > > > diplomatic> > > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not> honest.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own> Forum> > > so> > > > > > > thats why i> > > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47"> > > > > rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> > > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Mr.> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are> a> > > > > > astrologer> > > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them> > dont> > > > > reply> > > > > > > ignore> > > > > > > > > > > the mail> > > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS> > > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN> > THIS> > > > > WORLD> > > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME> > > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT> > HAPPY> > > > > WITH> > > > > > > THEIR> > > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE .> > > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED> > LIFE> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS> > > > > > > > > > > R.RAO> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite> them> > > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http:> > > > > //messenger.> > > > > > / invite/>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India> > > Messenger> > > > > at> > > > > > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > > > http://messenger. / invite/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> > http://in.promos. . / groups/citygroup s/> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Respected Sir,"If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much time............... do not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a meaningful discussion." Why are you underrating our group -your group rather-by saying above things - i watch tv - those cartoons which appears on Star tv "teen devian",India tv"that idiot maharaj,and news24 "dati maharaj" who appears to be comming directly from a mental asylum are the people who are manipulating the mentalities of 1000`s of believers and there is nothing to stop it.I really dont have money otherwise i would have filed a PIL against these dramatics/jokers.Playing directly with the psyche of average hindu indian and making him more "andhvishwasi" everyday to sell them selves.On aaj tak a gentleman comes "deepak kapoor" who is a real gentle person by his soberness of dressing and speaking and is a good one at astrology also- but how does it means that you /neelamji or any other person contributing on any forum/group is lesser in any way?Is money the only benchmark of success?And if a person is a consultant for a politician or actor that doesn`t makes him a landmark or benchmark of any sort,infact you know it more than me that politicians /astors/indutrialists doesnt do anything without consulting these people and most of the times i have seen that those so called "guru`s" or "panditji`s" are nothing but a waste basket - although i havent seen many politicians/actors/industrialists etc but with what ever experience i have this is a reality.Otherwise all the industries would have flourished and all films must have been super hits and all politicians would have become PM of this country but it doesnt works that way.right sir?And yes i have observed that "meaning ful discussions" doesnt happen here -i think -mainly because no one has time for that.// Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends. //what i meant with this is that you are in a position to see whether a person will be successful as a astrologer or not so by judging his horoscope and so you can deny or accept the right to admission which ofcourse in longer term will produce real good brains in this field who will stick to this field and carry forward your work.this is how things used to happen in ancient gurukul`s.because giving knowledge to undeserving also is a "apmaan of vidya" in a way.but anyway its your decision.i was just asking thats all.warm regardssiddhartha saxenaThis mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 4:15:54 PM Re: birth time rectification Dear Siddartha ji, My replies in blue. // I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation" // If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India. Basicallt this is a 'akkal tippu " games and most of those who predict successfully here, do it because the options are too less, so either of the option has to win, just like in cricket games. We also do not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a meaningful discussion. // also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.// This you may ask any time and if anybody wishes here, may answer. // It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field. // This is a one man show and not a university. But will try to get approval, as of now, I do not have any such approval.// Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home? // Yes. I am planning an e course, and also interactive one, where the participants can come on a common platform and chat, and a special group for such students. // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends.. // Tests will be taken weekly for the students who are enrolling. We will not move ahead unless the topics taught have not been understood. I will be taking Calculation of charts, Jataka Parijata, BPHS, and predictive Astrology for a start. Those interested in learning I dont have to check anything, I just have to check whether their cheque for my fees has been encashed in the Bank. regards, Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sir> > I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation",also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.> Regarding the quiz it is my request that if you start it then make a rule also that who so ever is telling that mr x is going to be the PM then the astrological reason and logic also should accompany with it.> > It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field.> > Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home?> Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends.> > warm regards> siddhartha saxena> > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 11:38:40 AM> Re: birth time rectification> > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > You must let me know specifically what you wish me to comment on, and if> you are talking about Vedic astrology, then I am beginning a course on> same in Jan 2010, if all goes well. In the meanwhile you let me know on> what do you wish to discuss on. If You wish me to initiate a quiz then I> very well do it. But I believe in simple quizzes.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > , siddhartha saxaena> <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> >> > Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with> astrology.greatttt.> > I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no> comments on that?> > warm regards> > siddhartha saxena> >> > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM> > Subject: Re: birth time rectification> >> >> >> > Dear Siddarthaji,> >> > I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me> doing> > KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then> of> > course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its> > importance. You can write to the members there too about this.> >> > About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have> been> > given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd> > tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or> > minus.> >> > Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the> > rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do> > this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are> > given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various> > groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this> year,> > though you will have to do the searching yourself.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> > , siddhartha saxaena> > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Sir(s)> > >> > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s> > group.what it is ?> > > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need> > arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was> > 00:06:07 AM of 12th June ..> > > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth> > time is not correct so i said ok then correct it..then he told me two> > days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to> > impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told> me> > nothing ever came to fruition.> > > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family> > many people were there when i was to be born.> > > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then> > why in KP system BTR is given so importance?> > >> > > regards> > > siddhartha saxena> > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM> > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Neelam ji.> > >> > > Thanks for the mail.> > >> > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id.> > If> > > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am> a> > > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my> > private> > > id.> > >> > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which> > has> > > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been> > > sent to the party concerned.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > bhaskar.> > >> > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > ...>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > >> > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish> to> > > clarify> > > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent> on> > my> > > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am> not> > a> > > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining> > anyone> > > on my> > > > personal id.> > > >> > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit> > > attention> > > > from any one else.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for explaining.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > > > > <% 40. com>,> > > > > siddhartha saxaena> > > > > numerology_works@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji> > > > > >> > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the> > > query in> > > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s> why> > i> > > had> > > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have> > answered> > > my> > > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is> > > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to> do> > > the> > > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might> > > slip my> > > > > mail.thats all.> > > > > >> > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > >> > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>> > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM> > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > >> > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > question> > > > > .but> > > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji //> > > > > >> > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry> for> > > > > replying> > > > > > you then.. You should have told me on phone that Your query is> > > > > addressed> > > > > > to Neelamji especially.> > > > > >> > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading> now.> > I> > > am> > > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are> unanswered.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that> > belief> > > of> > > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself> > states> > > > > that> > > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he> denied> > it> > > and> > > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what> > his> > > > > stars> > > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these> times?I> > > > > havent> > > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is> > running> > > for> > > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great> > culture> > > and> > > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient> > > > > knowledge> > > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him> > only> > > in> > > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people> > in> > > > > > anyway..Further i had written that astrology is a very> difficult> > > brain> > > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back> to> > > > > zero.I> > > > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly> > > believe> > > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we> > > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a> > > tree.You> > > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take> filmmakers,take> > > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those> > have> > > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift"> > > which> > > > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned..A. R.Rehman,> > > Sachin> > > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed> > > akhtar,Arnold> > > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big> big> > > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat> > > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die> > spirit> > > in> > > > > > their own fields..> > > > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine> sachin> > > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or> > > taxi> > > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed> to> > be> > > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the> > most> > > > > > important thing..> > > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more> > clearly> > > > > that> > > > > > for others..They keep pursuing it.> > > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the> > > purview> > > > > of> > > > > > this mail.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > question> > > .but> > > > > i> > > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you> > > poeple> > > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing> > > this> > > > > good> > > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner> support> > > worth> > > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My most warm regards> > > > > > > sidhartha saxena> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM> > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Neelamji,> > > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that> > > barring> > > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*.> > > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena?> > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > > > Gaurav.> > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > > <neelamgupta07@> > > > > > ...>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only> > person> > > on> > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything> > acccording> > > to> > > > > > his> > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> about> > > kp.//> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am> not> > > at> > > > > all> > > > > > > denying> > > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary> > > > > astrologers.> > > > > > But> > > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very> > > clear.> > > > > > > Please be> > > > > > > > kind enough to explain.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the> > straight> > > tone> > > > > > > you always> > > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos.> > > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free> be> > > it> > > > > 1+1> > > > > > > schemes> > > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially> when> > > it> > > > > > comes to> > > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be> > free> > > of> > > > > > > charge and> > > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two.> > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an> > > astrologer is> > > > > a> > > > > > > human> > > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is> > > > > > concerned-> > > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360> > > > > degrees,12> > > > > > > rashis,9> > > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord> if> > > you> > > > > do> > > > > > > practice KP> > > > > > > > > paddhati.> > > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low> > > when> > > > > > > talking to a> > > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are> > > harming> > > > > > ourselves> > > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do> > > believe> > > > > > > that after> > > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius> and> > > not so> > > > > > > is his> > > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it.> > > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only> > person> > > on> > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything> > > acccording to> > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > about> > > kp.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and> > > keep> > > > > > > doing what> > > > > > > > > you are .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM> > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the> > > Group, so> > > > > > > that their> > > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few> members> > I> > > > > > > cannit change> > > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a> beggar> > > for me> > > > > > > and Icannot> > > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant".> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my> > > place> > > > > and> > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > talk.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am> > justified.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask> > them,> > > what> > > > > > > are their> > > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the> > day> > > in> > > > > > > serving the> > > > > > > > > society ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk> and> > > avise,> > > > > > > or else> > > > > > > > > they are free to leave.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my> > point> > > is> > > > > > > sent to the> > > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it.> IfI> > I> > > use> > > > > > > diplomatic> > > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not> honest.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > @ .. com, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own> Forum> > > so> > > > > > > thats why i> > > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47"> > > > > rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> > > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Mr.> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are> a> > > > > > astrologer> > > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them> > dont> > > > > reply> > > > > > > ignore> > > > > > > > > > > the mail> > > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS> > > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN> > THIS> > > > > WORLD> > > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME> > > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT> > HAPPY> > > > > WITH> > > > > > > THEIR> > > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE .> > > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED> > LIFE> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS> > > > > > > > > > > R.RAO> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite> them> > > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http:> > > > > //messenger.> > > > > > / invite/>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India> > > Messenger> > > > > at> > > > > > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > > > http://messenger. / invite/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> > http://in.promos. . / groups/citygroup s/> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Siddartha , 1) Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group ". This technique will not work here. We are too smart for this. 2) You say that " giving knowledge to undeserving also is a apmaan of vidya in a way " then why are you insisiting on discussions on astrology here , or a quiz on who will become a PM. Who are going to answer this quiz ? How many are going to discuss on vedic astrology over here ? How do you know that all the members here are proper " patras" for giving vidya and are deserving ? When you ask for dscussion sor answers to astrological queries on various facets of astrology, then are you not asking for knowledge ? Can you guarantee that all the readers here are deserving f I give you the answers ( Knowledge) ? Please do not waste time in nonsense suggestions or discussions. You are coming to me and suggesting me after this group membership has reached 5000+. I do not need any suggestions on how to run my group now. Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote:>> Respected Sir,> > "If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this,> then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much> time................ do> not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a> meaningful discussion."> > Why are you underrating our group -your group rather-by saying above things - i watch tv - those cartoons which appears on Star tv "teen devian",India tv"that idiot maharaj,and news24 "dati maharaj" who appears to be comming directly from a mental asylum are the people who are manipulating the mentalities of 1000`s of believers and there is nothing to stop it.I really dont have money otherwise i would have filed a PIL against these dramatics/jokers.Playing directly with the psyche of average hindu indian and making him more "andhvishwasi" everyday to sell them selves.> On aaj tak a gentleman comes "deepak kapoor" who is a real gentle person by his soberness of dressing and speaking and is a good one at astrology also- but how does it means that you /neelamji or any other person contributing on any forum/group is lesser in any way?Is money the only benchmark of success?> And if a person is a consultant for a politician or actor that doesn`t makes him a landmark or benchmark of any sort,infact you know it more than me that politicians /astors/indutrialists doesnt do anything without consulting these people and most of the times i have seen that those so called "guru`s" or "panditji`s" are nothing but a waste basket - although i havent seen many politicians/actors/industrialists etc but with what ever experience i have this is a reality.Otherwise all the industries would have flourished and all films must have been super hits and all politicians would have become PM of this country but it doesnt works that way.right sir?> And yes i have observed that "meaning ful discussions" doesnt happen here -i think -mainly because no one has time for that.> > // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning> astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a> real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both> ends. //> what i meant with this is that you are in a position to see whether a person will be successful as a astrologer or not so by judging his horoscope and so you can deny or accept the right to admission which ofcourse in longer term will produce real good brains in this field who will stick to this field and carry forward your work.this is how things used to happen in ancient gurukul`s.because giving knowledge to undeserving also is a "apmaan of vidya" in a way.but anyway its your decision.i was just asking thats all.> > warm regards> siddhartha saxena> This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 4:15:54 PM> Re: birth time rectification> > > Dear Siddartha ji,> My replies in blue.> // I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation" //> If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India. Basicallt this is a 'akkal tippu " games and most of those who predict successfully here, do it because the options are too less, so either of the option has to win, just like in cricket games. We also do not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a meaningful discussion.> // also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.//> This you may ask any time and if anybody wishes here, may answer.> // It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U..P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field. //> This is a one man show and not a university. But will try to get approval, as of now, I do not have any such approval.> > // Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home? //> Yes. I am planning an e course, and also interactive one, where the participants can come on a common platform and chat, and a special group for such students.> // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends. //> Tests will be taken weekly for the students who are enrolling. We will not move ahead unless the topics taught have not been understood. I will be taking Calculation of charts, Jataka Parijata, BPHS, and predictive Astrology for a start. Those interested in learning I dont have to check anything, I just have to check whether their cheque for my fees has been encashed in the Bank..> regards,> Bhaskar.> > > > , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sir> > > > I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation",also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.> > Regarding the quiz it is my request that if you start it then make a rule also that who so ever is telling that mr x is going to be the PM then the astrological reason and logic also should accompany with it.> > > > It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field.> > > > Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home?> > Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends.> > > > warm regards> > siddhartha saxena> > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 11:38:40 AM> > Re: birth time rectification> > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > You must let me know specifically what you wish me to comment on, and if> > you are talking about Vedic astrology, then I am beginning a course on> > same in Jan 2010, if all goes well. In the meanwhile you let me know on> > what do you wish to discuss on. If You wish me to initiate a quiz then I> > very well do it. But I believe in simple quizzes.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > >> > > Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with> > astrology.greatttt.> > > I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no> > comments on that?> > > warm regards> > > siddhartha saxena> > >> > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM> > > Re: birth time rectification> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > >> > > I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me> > doing> > > KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then> > of> > > course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its> > > importance. You can write to the members there too about this.> > >> > > About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have> > been> > > given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd> > > tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or> > > minus.> > >> > > Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the> > > rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do> > > this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are> > > given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various> > > groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this> > year,> > > though you will have to do the searching yourself.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar..> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sir(s)> > > >> > > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s> > > group.what it is ?> > > > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need> > > arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was> > > 00:06:07 AM of 12th June .> > > > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth> > > time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two> > > days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to> > > impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told> > me> > > nothing ever came to fruition..> > > > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family> > > many people were there when i was to be born.> > > > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then> > > why in KP system BTR is given so importance?> > > >> > > > regards> > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM> > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Neelam ji.> > > >> > > > Thanks for the mail.> > > >> > > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id.> > > If> > > > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am> > a> > > > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my> > > private> > > > id.> > > >> > > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which> > > has> > > > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been> > > > sent to the party concerned.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > bhaskar.> > > >> > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > ...>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > >> > > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish> > to> > > > clarify> > > > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent> > on> > > my> > > > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am> > not> > > a> > > > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining> > > anyone> > > > on my> > > > > personal id.> > > > >> > > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit> > > > attention> > > > > from any one else.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Neelam> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for explaining.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>,> > > > > > siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > numerology_works@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the> > > > query in> > > > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s> > why> > > i> > > > had> > > > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have> > > answered> > > > my> > > > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is> > > > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to> > do> > > > the> > > > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might> > > > slip my> > > > > > mail.thats all.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>> > > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM> > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > > question> > > > > > .but> > > > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji //> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry> > for> > > > > > replying> > > > > > > you then.. You should have told me on phone that Your query is> > > > > > addressed> > > > > > > to Neelamji especially.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading> > now.> > > I> > > > am> > > > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are> > unanswered.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that> > > belief> > > > of> > > > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself> > > states> > > > > > that> > > > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he> > denied> > > it> > > > and> > > > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what> > > his> > > > > > stars> > > > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these> > times?I> > > > > > havent> > > > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is> > > running> > > > for> > > > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great> > > culture> > > > and> > > > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient> > > > > > knowledge> > > > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him> > > only> > > > in> > > > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people> > > in> > > > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very> > difficult> > > > brain> > > > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back> > to> > > > > > zero.I> > > > > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly> > > > believe> > > > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we> > > > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a> > > > tree.You> > > > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take> > filmmakers,take> > > > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those> > > have> > > > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift"> > > > which> > > > > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned..A. R.Rehman,> > > > Sachin> > > > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed> > > > akhtar,Arnold> > > > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big> > big> > > > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat> > > > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die> > > spirit> > > > in> > > > > > > their own fields..> > > > > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine> > sachin> > > > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or> > > > taxi> > > > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed> > to> > > be> > > > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the> > > most> > > > > > > important thing..> > > > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more> > > clearly> > > > > > that> > > > > > > for others..They keep pursuing it.> > > > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the> > > > purview> > > > > > of> > > > > > > this mail.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > > question> > > > .but> > > > > > i> > > > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you> > > > poeple> > > > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing> > > > this> > > > > > good> > > > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner> > support> > > > worth> > > > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > My most warm regards> > > > > > > > sidhartha saxena> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM> > > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Neelamji,> > > > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that> > > > barring> > > > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*.> > > > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena?> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > > > > Gaurav.> > > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > > > <neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > ...>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only> > > person> > > > on> > > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything> > > acccording> > > > to> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > about> > > > kp.//> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am> > not> > > > at> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > denying> > > > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary> > > > > > astrologers.> > > > > > > But> > > > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very> > > > clear.> > > > > > > > Please be> > > > > > > > > kind enough to explain.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the> > > straight> > > > tone> > > > > > > > you always> > > > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos.> > > > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free> > be> > > > it> > > > > > 1+1> > > > > > > > schemes> > > > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially> > when> > > > it> > > > > > > comes to> > > > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be> > > free> > > > of> > > > > > > > charge and> > > > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two.> > > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an> > > > astrologer is> > > > > > a> > > > > > > > human> > > > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is> > > > > > > concerned-> > > > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360> > > > > > degrees,12> > > > > > > > rashis,9> > > > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord> > if> > > > you> > > > > > do> > > > > > > > practice KP> > > > > > > > > > paddhati.> > > > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low> > > > when> > > > > > > > talking to a> > > > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are> > > > harming> > > > > > > ourselves> > > > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do> > > > believe> > > > > > > > that after> > > > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius> > and> > > > not so> > > > > > > > is his> > > > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it.> > > > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only> > > person> > > > on> > > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything> > > > acccording to> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > > about> > > > kp.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and> > > > keep> > > > > > > > doing what> > > > > > > > > > you are .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM> > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the> > > > Group, so> > > > > > > > that their> > > > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few> > members> > > I> > > > > > > > cannit change> > > > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a> > beggar> > > > for me> > > > > > > > and Icannot> > > > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant".> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my> > > > place> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > talk.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am> > > justified.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask> > > them,> > > > what> > > > > > > > are their> > > > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the> > > day> > > > in> > > > > > > > serving the> > > > > > > > > > society ?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk> > and> > > > avise,> > > > > > > > or else> > > > > > > > > > they are free to leave.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my> > > point> > > > is> > > > > > > > sent to the> > > > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it.> > IfI> > > I> > > > use> > > > > > > > diplomatic> > > > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not> > honest.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own> > Forum> > > > so> > > > > > > > thats why i> > > > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47"> > > > > > rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> > > > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Mr.> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are> > a> > > > > > > astrologer> > > > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them> > > dont> > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > ignore> > > > > > > > > > > > the mail> > > > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS> > > > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN> > > THIS> > > > > > WORLD> > > > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME> > > > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT> > > HAPPY> > > > > > WITH> > > > > > > > THEIR> > > > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE .> > > > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED> > > LIFE> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS> > > > > > > > > > > > R.RAO> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite> > them> > > > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http:> > > > > > //messenger.> > > > > > > ..com/ invite/>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India> > > > Messenger> > > > > > at> > > > > > > http://in.messenger ...com/ ?wm=n/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> > > http://in.promos. . / groups/citygroup s/> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Dear BhaskarjiI really dont know why I am always taken negatively -you are not the first one and not the last for sure - my point was as you had said //If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India.//-why are you underrating this group--i meant all the astrologers not that you and others are any different.what you said percolates to --that the astrolgers in this big group are lesser in some way to those who are advising bigwigs of this country.and this is not the case for sure..regarding "patra" and kupatra you are right that you dont know who is patra and who isnt for receiving answers and opinions - but this is not a school group-this is a group of more than 5000 people who are into astrology,interested in astrology and who seek advice from the emininet people like you and neelamji /gauravji.because i have in these few days not seen fourth person answering any question.may be there are but slipped from my attention or mail.we ask queries because we want to know something in astrology not to be a professional fulltime astrologer but just for knowledge -where as -that "patra" point i had made in lieu of your course on astrology which is a completely different aspect.and by stating"Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group " you meant that the astrologers featuring on tv shows and the one here are the same then i completely disagree --people here are 1000 times better those circus juggernauts.This is all i meant and if that has hurted you in a anyway then i am extremely sorry -it really pained me by reading " Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group" this is something i never meant -and never thought even.i am a diffrent kind of a person -we all are obviously,,but it really feels bad when we see our saying thrown on us in bad light.warm regardssiddhartha saxena This mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 9:41:10 PM Re: birth time rectification Dear Siddartha , 1) Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group ". This technique will not work here. We are too smart for this. 2) You say that " giving knowledge to undeserving also is a apmaan of vidya in a way " then why are you insisiting on discussions on astrology here , or a quiz on who will become a PM. Who are going to answer this quiz ? How many are going to discuss on vedic astrology over here ? How do you know that all the members here are proper " patras" for giving vidya and are deserving ? When you ask for dscussion sor answers to astrological queries on various facets of astrology, then are you not asking for knowledge ? Can you guarantee that all the readers here are deserving f I give you the answers ( Knowledge) ? Please do not waste time in nonsense suggestions or discussions. You are coming to me and suggesting me after this group membership has reached 5000+. I do not need any suggestions on how to run my group now. Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Sir,> > "If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this,> then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much> time........ ......... do> not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a> meaningful discussion."> > Why are you underrating our group -your group rather-by saying above things - i watch tv - those cartoons which appears on Star tv "teen devian",India tv"that idiot maharaj,and news24 "dati maharaj" who appears to be comming directly from a mental asylum are the people who are manipulating the mentalities of 1000`s of believers and there is nothing to stop it.I really dont have money otherwise i would have filed a PIL against these dramatics/jokers. Playing directly with the psyche of average hindu indian and making him more "andhvishwasi" everyday to sell them selves.> On aaj tak a gentleman comes "deepak kapoor" who is a real gentle person by his soberness of dressing and speaking and is a good one at astrology also- but how does it means that you /neelamji or any other person contributing on any forum/group is lesser in any way?Is money the only benchmark of success?> And if a person is a consultant for a politician or actor that doesn`t makes him a landmark or benchmark of any sort,infact you know it more than me that politicians /astors/indutrialis ts doesnt do anything without consulting these people and most of the times i have seen that those so called "guru`s" or "panditji`s" are nothing but a waste basket - although i havent seen many politicians/ actors/industria lists etc but with what ever experience i have this is a reality.Otherwise all the industries would have flourished and all films must have been super hits and all politicians would have become PM of this country but it doesnt works that way.right sir?> And yes i have observed that "meaning ful discussions" doesnt happen here -i think -mainly because no one has time for that.> > // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning> astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a> real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both> ends. //> what i meant with this is that you are in a position to see whether a person will be successful as a astrologer or not so by judging his horoscope and so you can deny or accept the right to admission which ofcourse in longer term will produce real good brains in this field who will stick to this field and carry forward your work.this is how things used to happen in ancient gurukul`s.because giving knowledge to undeserving also is a "apmaan of vidya" in a way.but anyway its your decision.i was just asking thats all.> > warm regards> siddhartha saxena> This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 4:15:54 PM> Re: birth time rectification> > > Dear Siddartha ji,> My replies in blue.> // I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation" //> If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India. Basicallt this is a 'akkal tippu " games and most of those who predict successfully here, do it because the options are too less, so either of the option has to win, just like in cricket games. We also do not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a meaningful discussion.> // also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.//> This you may ask any time and if anybody wishes here, may answer.> // It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U..P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field. //> This is a one man show and not a university. But will try to get approval, as of now, I do not have any such approval.> > // Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home? //> Yes. I am planning an e course, and also interactive one, where the participants can come on a common platform and chat, and a special group for such students.> // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends. //> Tests will be taken weekly for the students who are enrolling. We will not move ahead unless the topics taught have not been understood. I will be taking Calculation of charts, Jataka Parijata, BPHS, and predictive Astrology for a start. Those interested in learning I dont have to check anything, I just have to check whether their cheque for my fees has been encashed in the Bank..> regards,> Bhaskar.> > > > , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sir> > > > I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation",also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.> > Regarding the quiz it is my request that if you start it then make a rule also that who so ever is telling that mr x is going to be the PM then the astrological reason and logic also should accompany with it.> > > > It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field.> > > > Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home?> > Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends.> > > > warm regards> > siddhartha saxena> > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 11:38:40 AM> > Re: birth time rectification> > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > You must let me know specifically what you wish me to comment on, and if> > you are talking about Vedic astrology, then I am beginning a course on> > same in Jan 2010, if all goes well. In the meanwhile you let me know on> > what do you wish to discuss on. If You wish me to initiate a quiz then I> > very well do it. But I believe in simple quizzes.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > >> > > Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with> > astrology.greatttt.> > > I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no> > comments on that?> > > warm regards> > > siddhartha saxena> > >> > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > To: > > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM> > > Re: birth time rectification> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > >> > > I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me> > doing> > > KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then> > of> > > course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its> > > importance. You can write to the members there too about this.> > >> > > About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have> > been> > > given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd> > > tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or> > > minus.> > >> > > Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the> > > rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do> > > this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are> > > given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various> > > groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this> > year,> > > though you will have to do the searching yourself.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. .> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sir(s)> > > >> > > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s> > > group.what it is ?> > > > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need> > > arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was> > > 00:06:07 AM of 12th June .> > > > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth> > > time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two> > > days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to> > > impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told> > me> > > nothing ever came to fruition..> > > > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family> > > many people were there when i was to be born.> > > > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then> > > why in KP system BTR is given so importance?> > > >> > > > regards> > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM> > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Neelam ji.> > > >> > > > Thanks for the mail.> > > >> > > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id.> > > If> > > > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am> > a> > > > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my> > > private> > > > id.> > > >> > > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which> > > has> > > > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been> > > > sent to the party concerned.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > bhaskar.> > > >> > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > ...>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > >> > > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish> > to> > > > clarify> > > > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent> > on> > > my> > > > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am> > not> > > a> > > > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining> > > anyone> > > > on my> > > > > personal id.> > > > >> > > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit> > > > attention> > > > > from any one else..> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Neelam> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for explaining.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>,> > > > > > siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > numerology_works@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the> > > > query in> > > > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s> > why> > > i> > > > had> > > > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have> > > answered> > > > my> > > > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is> > > > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to> > do> > > > the> > > > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might> > > > slip my> > > > > > mail.thats all.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>> > > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM> > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > > question> > > > > > .but> > > > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji //> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry> > for> > > > > > replying> > > > > > > you then.. You should have told me on phone that Your query is> > > > > > addressed> > > > > > > to Neelamji especially.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading> > now.> > > I> > > > am> > > > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are> > unanswered.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that> > > belief> > > > of> > > > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself> > > states> > > > > > that> > > > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he> > denied> > > it> > > > and> > > > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what> > > his> > > > > > stars> > > > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these> > times?I> > > > > > havent> > > > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is> > > running> > > > for> > > > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great> > > culture> > > > and> > > > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient> > > > > > knowledge> > > > > > > of our saints..There should be many but I was able to read him> > > only> > > > in> > > > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people> > > in> > > > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very> > difficult> > > > brain> > > > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back> > to> > > > > > zero.I> > > > > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly> > > > believe> > > > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we> > > > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a> > > > tree.You> > > > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take> > filmmakers,take> > > > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those> > > have> > > > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift"> > > > which> > > > > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned...A. R.Rehman,> > > > Sachin> > > > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed> > > > akhtar,Arnold> > > > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big> > big> > > > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat> > > > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die> > > spirit> > > > in> > > > > > > their own fields..> > > > > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine> > sachin> > > > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or> > > > taxi> > > > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed> > to> > > be> > > > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the> > > most> > > > > > > important thing..> > > > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more> > > clearly> > > > > > that> > > > > > > for others..They keep pursuing it.> > > > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the> > > > purview> > > > > > of> > > > > > > this mail.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > > question> > > > .but> > > > > > i> > > > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you> > > > poeple> > > > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing> > > > this> > > > > > good> > > > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner> > support> > > > worth> > > > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > My most warm regards> > > > > > > > sidhartha saxena> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM> > > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Neelamji,> > > > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that> > > > barring> > > > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*.> > > > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena?> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > > > > Gaurav.> > > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > > > <neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > ...>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only> > > person> > > > on> > > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything> > > acccording> > > > to> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > about> > > > kp.//> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am> > not> > > > at> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > denying> > > > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary> > > > > > astrologers.> > > > > > > But> > > > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very> > > > clear.> > > > > > > > Please be> > > > > > > > > kind enough to explain.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the> > > straight> > > > tone> > > > > > > > you always> > > > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos.> > > > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free> > be> > > > it> > > > > > 1+1> > > > > > > > schemes> > > > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially> > when> > > > it> > > > > > > comes to> > > > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be> > > free> > > > of> > > > > > > > charge and> > > > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two.> > > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an> > > > astrologer is> > > > > > a> > > > > > > > human> > > > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is> > > > > > > concerned-> > > > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360> > > > > > degrees,12> > > > > > > > rashis,9> > > > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord> > if> > > > you> > > > > > do> > > > > > > > practice KP> > > > > > > > > > paddhati.> > > > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low> > > > when> > > > > > > > talking to a> > > > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are> > > > harming> > > > > > > ourselves> > > > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do> > > > believe> > > > > > > > that after> > > > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius> > and> > > > not so> > > > > > > > is his> > > > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it.> > > > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only> > > person> > > > on> > > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything> > > > acccording to> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > > about> > > > kp.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and> > > > keep> > > > > > > > doing what> > > > > > > > > > you are .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM> > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the> > > > Group, so> > > > > > > > that their> > > > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few> > members> > > I> > > > > > > > cannit change> > > > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a> > beggar> > > > for me> > > > > > > > and Icannot> > > > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant".> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my> > > > place> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > talk.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am> > > justified.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask> > > them,> > > > what> > > > > > > > are their> > > > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the> > > day> > > > in> > > > > > > > serving the> > > > > > > > > > society ?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk> > and> > > > avise,> > > > > > > > or else> > > > > > > > > > they are free to leave.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my> > > point> > > > is> > > > > > > > sent to the> > > > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it.> > IfI> > > I> > > > use> > > > > > > > diplomatic> > > > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not> > honest.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own> > Forum> > > > so> > > > > > > > thats why i> > > > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47"> > > > > > rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> > > > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Mr.> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are> > a> > > > > > > astrologer> > > > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them> > > dont> > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > ignore> > > > > > > > > > > > the mail> > > > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS> > > > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN> > > THIS> > > > > > WORLD> > > > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME> > > > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT> > > HAPPY> > > > > > WITH> > > > > > > > THEIR> > > > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE .> > > > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED> > > LIFE> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS> > > > > > > > > > > > R.RAO> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite> > them> > > > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http:> > > > > > //messenger.> > > > > > > ..com/ invite/>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India> > > > Messenger> > > > > > at> > > > > > > http://in.messenger ...com/ ?wm=n/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> > > http://in.promos. . / groups/citygroup s/> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Dear Siddarthaji, Your point is noted and I hope that the misunderstandings are cleared on both sides now. regards, Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > I really dont know why I am always taken negatively -you are not the first one and not the last for sure - my point was as you had said //If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be> on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy> predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India.//-why are you underrating this group--i meant all the astrologers not that you and others are any different.what you said percolates to --that the astrolgers in this big group are lesser in some way to those who are advising bigwigs of this country.and this is not the case for sure..> > regarding "patra" and kupatra you are right that you dont know who is patra and who isnt for receiving answers and opinions - but this is not a school group-this is a group of more than 5000 people who are into astrology,interested in astrology and who seek advice from the emininet people like you and neelamji /gauravji.because i have in these few days not seen fourth person answering any question.may be there are but slipped from my attention or mail.> > we ask queries because we want to know something in astrology not to be a professional fulltime astrologer but just for knowledge -where as -that "patra" point i had made in lieu of your course on astrology which is a completely different aspect.> > and by stating"Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying> that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group " you meant that the astrologers featuring on tv shows and the one here are the same then i completely disagree --people here are 1000 times better those circus juggernauts.> > This is all i meant and if that has hurted you in a anyway then i am extremely sorry -it really pained me by reading " Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group" this is something i never meant -and never thought even.i am a diffrent kind of a person -we all are obviously,,but it really feels bad when we see our saying thrown on us in bad light.> > warm regards> siddhartha saxena> > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 9:41:10 PM> Re: birth time rectification> > > Dear Siddartha ,> 1) Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group ". This technique will not work here. We are too smart for this.> 2) You say that " giving knowledge to undeserving also is a apmaan of vidya in a way " then why are you insisiting on discussions on astrology here , or a quiz on who will become a PM. Who are going to answer this quiz ? How many are going to discuss on vedic astrology over here ? How do you know that all the members here are proper " patras" for giving vidya and are deserving ? When you ask for dscussion sor answers to astrological queries on various facets of astrology, then are you not asking for knowledge ? Can you guarantee that all the readers here are deserving f I give you the answers ( Knowledge) ?> Please do not waste time in nonsense suggestions or discussions. You are coming to me and suggesting me after this group membership has reached 5000+. I do not need any suggestions on how to run my group now.> Bhaskar.> > > > , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:> >> > Respected Sir,> > > > "If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this,> > then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much> > time........ ........ do> > not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a> > meaningful discussion."> > > > Why are you underrating our group -your group rather-by saying above things - i watch tv - those cartoons which appears on Star tv "teen devian",India tv"that idiot maharaj,and news24 "dati maharaj" who appears to be comming directly from a mental asylum are the people who are manipulating the mentalities of 1000`s of believers and there is nothing to stop it.I really dont have money otherwise i would have filed a PIL against these dramatics/jokers. Playing directly with the psyche of average hindu indian and making him more "andhvishwasi" everyday to sell them selves.> > On aaj tak a gentleman comes "deepak kapoor" who is a real gentle person by his soberness of dressing and speaking and is a good one at astrology also- but how does it means that you /neelamji or any other person contributing on any forum/group is lesser in any way?Is money the only benchmark of success?> > And if a person is a consultant for a politician or actor that doesn`t makes him a landmark or benchmark of any sort,infact you know it more than me that politicians /astors/indutrialis ts doesnt do anything without consulting these people and most of the times i have seen that those so called "guru`s" or "panditji`s" are nothing but a waste basket - although i havent seen many politicians/ actors/industria lists etc but with what ever experience i have this is a reality.Otherwise all the industries would have flourished and all films must have been super hits and all politicians would have become PM of this country but it doesnt works that way.right sir?> > And yes i have observed that "meaning ful discussions" doesnt happen here -i think -mainly because no one has time for that.> > > > // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning> > astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a> > real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both> > ends. //> > what i meant with this is that you are in a position to see whether a person will be successful as a astrologer or not so by judging his horoscope and so you can deny or accept the right to admission which ofcourse in longer term will produce real good brains in this field who will stick to this field and carry forward your work.this is how things used to happen in ancient gurukul`s.because giving knowledge to undeserving also is a "apmaan of vidya" in a way.but anyway its your decision.i was just asking thats all.> > > > warm regards> > siddhartha saxena> > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 4:15:54 PM> > Re: birth time rectification> > > > > > Dear Siddartha ji,> > My replies in blue.> > // I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation" //> > If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India. Basicallt this is a 'akkal tippu " games and most of those who predict successfully here, do it because the options are too less, so either of the option has to win, just like in cricket games. We also do not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a meaningful discussion.> > // also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.//> > This you may ask any time and if anybody wishes here, may answer.> > // It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U..P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field. //> > This is a one man show and not a university. But will try to get approval, as of now, I do not have any such approval.> > > > // Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home? //> > Yes. I am planning an e course, and also interactive one, where the participants can come on a common platform and chat, and a special group for such students.> > // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends. //> > Tests will be taken weekly for the students who are enrolling. We will not move ahead unless the topics taught have not been understood. I will be taking Calculation of charts, Jataka Parijata, BPHS, and predictive Astrology for a start. Those interested in learning I dont have to check anything, I just have to check whether their cheque for my fees has been encashed in the Bank..> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir> > > > > > I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation",also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.> > > Regarding the quiz it is my request that if you start it then make a rule also that who so ever is telling that mr x is going to be the PM then the astrological reason and logic also should accompany with it.> > > > > > It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field.> > > > > > Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home?> > > Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends.> > > > > > warm regards> > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 11:38:40 AM> > > Re: birth time rectification> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > > You must let me know specifically what you wish me to comment on, and if> > > you are talking about Vedic astrology, then I am beginning a course on> > > same in Jan 2010, if all goes well. In the meanwhile you let me know on> > > what do you wish to discuss on. If You wish me to initiate a quiz then I> > > very well do it. But I believe in simple quizzes.> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with> > > astrology.greatttt.> > > > I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no> > > comments on that?> > > > warm regards> > > > siddhartha saxena> > > >> > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > @ .. com> > > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM> > > > Re: birth time rectification> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > >> > > > I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me> > > doing> > > > KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then> > > of> > > > course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its> > > > importance. You can write to the members there too about this.> > > >> > > > About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have> > > been> > > > given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd> > > > tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or> > > > minus.> > > >> > > > Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the> > > > rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do> > > > this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are> > > > given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various> > > > groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this> > > year,> > > > though you will have to do the searching yourself.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar. .> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sir(s)> > > > >> > > > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s> > > > group.what it is ?> > > > > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need> > > > arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was> > > > 00:06:07 AM of 12th June .> > > > > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth> > > > time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two> > > > days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to> > > > impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told> > > me> > > > nothing ever came to fruition..> > > > > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family> > > > many people were there when i was to be born.> > > > > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then> > > > why in KP system BTR is given so importance?> > > > >> > > > > regards> > > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM> > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelam ji.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the mail.> > > > >> > > > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id.> > > > If> > > > > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am> > > a> > > > > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my> > > > private> > > > > id.> > > > >> > > > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which> > > > has> > > > > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been> > > > > sent to the party concerned.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > > ...>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish> > > to> > > > > clarify> > > > > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent> > > on> > > > my> > > > > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am> > > not> > > > a> > > > > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining> > > > anyone> > > > > on my> > > > > > personal id.> > > > > >> > > > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit> > > > > attention> > > > > > from any one else.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for explaining.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>,> > > > > > > siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > > numerology_works@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the> > > > > query in> > > > > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s> > > why> > > > i> > > > > had> > > > > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have> > > > answered> > > > > my> > > > > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is> > > > > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to> > > do> > > > > the> > > > > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might> > > > > slip my> > > > > > > mail.thats all.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>> > > > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM> > > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > > > question> > > > > > > .but> > > > > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji //> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me. I am utmost sorry> > > for> > > > > > > replying> > > > > > > > you then.. You should have told me on phone that Your query is> > > > > > > addressed> > > > > > > > to Neelamji especially.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading> > > now.> > > > I> > > > > am> > > > > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are> > > unanswered.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that> > > > belief> > > > > of> > > > > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself> > > > states> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he> > > denied> > > > it> > > > > and> > > > > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what> > > > his> > > > > > > stars> > > > > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these> > > times?I> > > > > > > havent> > > > > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is> > > > running> > > > > for> > > > > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great> > > > culture> > > > > and> > > > > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient> > > > > > > knowledge> > > > > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him> > > > only> > > > > in> > > > > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people> > > > in> > > > > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very> > > difficult> > > > > brain> > > > > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back> > > to> > > > > > > zero.I> > > > > > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly> > > > > believe> > > > > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we> > > > > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a> > > > > tree.You> > > > > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take> > > filmmakers,take> > > > > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those> > > > have> > > > > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift"> > > > > which> > > > > > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned..A. R.Rehman,> > > > > Sachin> > > > > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed> > > > > akhtar,Arnold> > > > > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big> > > big> > > > > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat> > > > > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die> > > > spirit> > > > > in> > > > > > > > their own fields..> > > > > > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine> > > sachin> > > > > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or> > > > > taxi> > > > > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed> > > to> > > > be> > > > > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the> > > > most> > > > > > > > important thing..> > > > > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more> > > > clearly> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > for others...They keep pursuing it.> > > > > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the> > > > > purview> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > this mail.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > > > question> > > > > .but> > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you> > > > > poeple> > > > > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing> > > > > this> > > > > > > good> > > > > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner> > > support> > > > > worth> > > > > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My most warm regards> > > > > > > > > sidhartha saxena> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM> > > > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Neelamji,> > > > > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that> > > > > barring> > > > > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*.> > > > > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena?> > > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > > > > > Gaurav.> > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > > > > <neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > > ...>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only> > > > person> > > > > on> > > > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything> > > > acccording> > > > > to> > > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > > about> > > > > kp.//> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am> > > not> > > > > at> > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > denying> > > > > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary> > > > > > > astrologers..> > > > > > > > But> > > > > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very> > > > > clear.> > > > > > > > > Please be> > > > > > > > > > kind enough to explain.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the> > > > straight> > > > > tone> > > > > > > > > you always> > > > > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos..> > > > > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free> > > be> > > > > it> > > > > > > 1+1> > > > > > > > > schemes> > > > > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially> > > when> > > > > it> > > > > > > > comes to> > > > > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be> > > > free> > > > > of> > > > > > > > > charge and> > > > > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two.> > > > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an> > > > > astrologer is> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > human> > > > > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is> > > > > > > > concerned-> > > > > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360> > > > > > > degrees,12> > > > > > > > > rashis,9> > > > > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord> > > if> > > > > you> > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > practice KP> > > > > > > > > > > paddhati.> > > > > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low> > > > > when> > > > > > > > > talking to a> > > > > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are> > > > > harming> > > > > > > > ourselves> > > > > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do> > > > > believe> > > > > > > > > that after> > > > > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius> > > and> > > > > not so> > > > > > > > > is his> > > > > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it.> > > > > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only> > > > person> > > > > on> > > > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything> > > > > acccording to> > > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > > > about> > > > > kp.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and> > > > > keep> > > > > > > > > doing what> > > > > > > > > > > you are .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM> > > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the> > > > > Group, so> > > > > > > > > that their> > > > > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few> > > members> > > > I> > > > > > > > > cannit change> > > > > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a> > > beggar> > > > > for me> > > > > > > > > and Icannot> > > > > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant".> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my> > > > > place> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > > talk.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am> > > > justified.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask> > > > them,> > > > > what> > > > > > > > > are their> > > > > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the> > > > day> > > > > in> > > > > > > > > serving the> > > > > > > > > > > society ?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk> > > and> > > > > avise,> > > > > > > > > or else> > > > > > > > > > > they are free to leave.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my> > > > point> > > > > is> > > > > > > > > sent to the> > > > > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it.> > > IfI> > > > I> > > > > use> > > > > > > > > diplomatic> > > > > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not> > > honest.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own> > > Forum> > > > > so> > > > > > > > > thats why i> > > > > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47"> > > > > > > rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are> > > a> > > > > > > > astrologer> > > > > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them> > > > dont> > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > ignore> > > > > > > > > > > > > the mail> > > > > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS> > > > > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN> > > > THIS> > > > > > > WORLD> > > > > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME> > > > > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT> > > > HAPPY> > > > > > > WITH> > > > > > > > > THEIR> > > > > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE .> > > > > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED> > > > LIFE> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS> > > > > > > > > > > > > R.RAO> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite> > > them> > > > > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http:> > > > > > > //messenger.> > > > > > > > ..com/ invite/>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India> > > > > Messenger> > > > > > > at> > > > > > > > http://in.messenger ...com/ ?wm=n/> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> > > > http://in.promos. . / groups/citygroup s/> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > http://messenger. / invite/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Dear sir I do not have any misunderstanding - i am a true believer in this group and will be .I will very happy when i see people being benefited from here although i am also here to ask only but being a member something so nig and good do give a good feeling from inside that okay here are people to listen to me and many others who need help.I just wanted you to understand my perspective.warm regardssiddhartha saxena This mail is sent by siddhartha.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009 7:07:16 PM Re: birth time rectification Dear Siddarthaji, Your point is noted and I hope that the misunderstandings are cleared on both sides now. regards, Bhaskar. , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > I really dont know why I am always taken negatively -you are not the first one and not the last for sure - my point was as you had said //If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be> on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy> predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India.//-why are you underrating this group--i meant all the astrologers not that you and others are any different.what you said percolates to --that the astrolgers in this big group are lesser in some way to those who are advising bigwigs of this country.and this is not the case for sure..> > regarding "patra" and kupatra you are right that you dont know who is patra and who isnt for receiving answers and opinions - but this is not a school group-this is a group of more than 5000 people who are into astrology,intereste d in astrology and who seek advice from the emininet people like you and neelamji /gauravji.because i have in these few days not seen fourth person answering any question.may be there are but slipped from my attention or mail.> > we ask queries because we want to know something in astrology not to be a professional fulltime astrologer but just for knowledge -where as -that "patra" point i had made in lieu of your course on astrology which is a completely different aspect.> > and by stating"Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying> that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group " you meant that the astrologers featuring on tv shows and the one here are the same then i completely disagree --people here are 1000 times better those circus juggernauts.> > This is all i meant and if that has hurted you in a anyway then i am extremely sorry -it really pained me by reading " Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group" this is something i never meant -and never thought even.i am a diffrent kind of a person -we all are obviously,,but it really feels bad when we see our saying thrown on us in bad light.> > warm regards> siddhartha saxena> > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 9:41:10 PM> Re: birth time rectification> > > Dear Siddartha ,> 1) Do not try tocreate discord here between the astrologers, by saying that " Why are you underrating the astrologers of the group ". This technique will not work here. We are too smart for this.> 2) You say that " giving knowledge to undeserving also is a apmaan of vidya in a way " then why are you insisiting on discussions on astrology here , or a quiz on who will become a PM. Who are going to answer this quiz ? How many are going to discuss on vedic astrology over here ? How do you know that all the members here are proper " patras" for giving vidya and are deserving ? When you ask for dscussion sor answers to astrological queries on various facets of astrology, then are you not asking for knowledge ? Can you guarantee that all the readers here are deserving f I give you the answers ( Knowledge) ?> Please do not waste time in nonsense suggestions or discussions. You are coming to me and suggesting me after this group membership has reached 5000+. I do not need any suggestions on how to run my group now.> Bhaskar.> > > > --- In , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:> >> > Respected Sir,> > > > "If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this,> > then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much> > time........ ........ do> > not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a> > meaningful discussion."> > > > Why are you underrating our group -your group rather-by saying above things - i watch tv - those cartoons which appears on Star tv "teen devian",India tv"that idiot maharaj,and news24 "dati maharaj" who appears to be comming directly from a mental asylum are the people who are manipulating the mentalities of 1000`s of believers and there is nothing to stop it.I really dont have money otherwise i would have filed a PIL against these dramatics/jokers. Playing directly with the psyche of average hindu indian and making him more "andhvishwasi" everyday to sell them selves.> > On aaj tak a gentleman comes "deepak kapoor" who is a real gentle person by his soberness of dressing and speaking and is a good one at astrology also- but how does it means that you /neelamji or any other person contributing on any forum/group is lesser in any way?Is money the only benchmark of success?> > And if a person is a consultant for a politician or actor that doesn`t makes him a landmark or benchmark of any sort,infact you know it more than me that politicians /astors/indutrialis ts doesnt do anything without consulting these people and most of the times i have seen that those so called "guru`s" or "panditji`s" are nothing but a waste basket - although i havent seen many politicians/ actors/industria lists etc but with what ever experience i have this is a reality.Otherwise all the industries would have flourished and all films must have been super hits and all politicians would have become PM of this country but it doesnt works that way.right sir?> > And yes i have observed that "meaning ful discussions" doesnt happen here -i think -mainly because no one has time for that.> > > > // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning> > astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a> > real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both> > ends. //> > what i meant with this is that you are in a position to see whether a person will be successful as a astrologer or not so by judging his horoscope and so you can deny or accept the right to admission which ofcourse in longer term will produce real good brains in this field who will stick to this field and carry forward your work.this is how things used to happen in ancient gurukul`s.because giving knowledge to undeserving also is a "apmaan of vidya" in a way.but anyway its your decision.i was just asking thats all.> > > > warm regards> > siddhartha saxena> > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> > > > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 4:15:54 PM> > Re: birth time rectification> > > > > > Dear Siddartha ji,> > My replies in blue.> > // I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation" //> > If an astrologer is so smart, as to predict this, then he need not be on these forums because he will not have so much time, but will be busy predicting for the Politicians and bigwigs in India. Basicallt this is a 'akkal tippu " games and most of those who predict successfully here, do it because the options are too less, so either of the option has to win, just like in cricket games. We also do not have many astrologers around in this group to indulge in a meaningful discussion.> > // also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.//> > This you may ask any time and if anybody wishes here, may answer.> > // It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U..P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field. //> > This is a one man show and not a university. But will try to get approval, as of now, I do not have any such approval.> > > > // Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home? //> > Yes. I am planning an e course, and also interactive one, where the participants can come on a common platform and chat, and a special group for such students.> > // Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends. //> > Tests will be taken weekly for the students who are enrolling. We will not move ahead unless the topics taught have not been understood. I will be taking Calculation of charts, Jataka Parijata, BPHS, and predictive Astrology for a start. Those interested in learning I dont have to check anything, I just have to check whether their cheque for my fees has been encashed in the Bank..> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena <numerology_works@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir> > > > > > I had requested to start a quiz on "who is the next PM of this Nation",also i had requested your permission to let laymen like us to ask simple points on vedic astrology like effect of a particular planet in a particular house in a certain dasa etc and /or few combinations which leads a person to become politicain,astrolog er,sports star,actor etc etc in general.> > > Regarding the quiz it is my request that if you start it then make a rule also that who so ever is telling that mr x is going to be the PM then the astrological reason and logic also should accompany with it.> > > > > > It is a great news that you are going to start a course on vedic astrology sir,will it be U.G.C. approved like there are some univarsities in U.P i think which give U.G.C. approved degree in that field.> > > > > > Further will that course be e-learning enabled?Like if i want to join can i learn from my home?> > > Will you take any test of the people intereted in learning astrology - because you know more than anyone else about who can be a real full time astrologer or not so that will be beneficial for both ends.> > > > > > warm regards> > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 11:38:40 AM> > > Re: birth time rectification> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > > You must let me know specifically what you wish me to comment on, and if> > > you are talking about Vedic astrology, then I am beginning a course on> > > same in Jan 2010, if all goes well. In the meanwhile you let me know on> > > what do you wish to discuss on. If You wish me to initiate a quiz then I> > > very well do it. But I believe in simple quizzes.> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Nice stories sir.So you do educate people morally also with> > > astrology.greatttt.> > > > I had given few requests sir for a quiz and about vedic astrology - no> > > comments on that?> > > > warm regards> > > > siddhartha saxena> > > >> > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > @ . . com> > > > Monday, 16 February, 2009 5:31:42 PM> > > > Re: birth time rectification> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > >> > > > I know you are on Puneetji's group. because you mentioned about me> > > doing> > > > KP sublords etc. in one of your previous mails. If You are there then> > > of> > > > course you must be reading about BTR. You must be knowing its> > > > importance. You can write to the members there too about this.> > > >> > > > About your Birth time going off track by 4 hours, I agree you have> > > been> > > > given a wrong prediction which is a high probability, unless you ahd> > > > tolfd the astrologer that your birth time may be few hours plus or> > > > minus.> > > >> > > > Anyways this is aprogfessional work, and we will not be able to do the> > > > rectification here without professional consultations. You can also do> > > > this yourself by visiting Punnetjis Wikipedia where such modules are> > > > given or you may check my simple ways of explanation given in various> > > > groups about this method, maybe in this group too, earlier in this> > > year,> > > > though you will have to do the searching yourself.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar. .> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sir(s)> > > > >> > > > > I have been reading a lot of B.T.R. in this group and puneetji`s> > > > group.what it is ?> > > > > usually people know there correct birth time still why does the need> > > > arises to rectify it?I wish to give my own example -my birth time was> > > > 00:06:07 AM of 12th June .> > > > > I once showed my chart to a KP astrologer and he said that my birth> > > > time is not correct so i said ok then correct it.then he told me two> > > > days later that my correct birth time is 04:30am which is next to> > > > impossible as 4 hrs delay in beyond imagination. and whatever he told> > > me> > > > nothing ever came to fruition..> > > > > my time cant be wrong for any reason at all.because of joint family> > > > many people were there when i was to be born.> > > > > such is the case or should be the case with hundreds of people then> > > > why in KP system BTR is given so importance?> > > > >> > > > > regards> > > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:14:54 PM> > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelam ji.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the mail.> > > > >> > > > > I am very clear just like you. I dont answer mails on my private id.> > > > If> > > > > we start doing this then when shall we work for our own self ? I am> > > a> > > > > professional astrologer so I entertain only paid enquiries on my> > > > private> > > > > id.> > > > >> > > > > Yes, we must have some ethics, and must not reply to any query which> > > > has> > > > > already been replied, unless we are sure that a wrong reply has been> > > > > sent to the party concerned.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > > ...>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I remember Siddhartha ji had sent a mail to my pvt id. But I wish> > > to> > > > > clarify> > > > > > for everyone's understanding that I do not reply to queries sent> > > on> > > > my> > > > > > personal id and I have said that earlier also in the group. I am> > > not> > > > a> > > > > > professional astrologer and I have no interest in entertaining> > > > anyone> > > > > on my> > > > > > personal id.> > > > > >> > > > > > And once the query is answered by you, obviously it will not merit> > > > > attention> > > > > > from any one else.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 2009/2/15 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for explaining.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>,> > > > > > > siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > > numerology_works@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I had called you personally ,for my reading .i had posted the> > > > > query in> > > > > > > the group and on her id also.i needed reading from you that`s> > > why> > > > i> > > > > had> > > > > > > called.I had mailed her too on her id and now that you have> > > > answered> > > > > my> > > > > > > query -i was just telling her that i had mailed her .my wish is> > > > > > > fulfilled sir-you did the reading for me.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am not saying that anyone is better or not -i wanted you to> > > do> > > > > the> > > > > > > reading.but i had mailed her also thinking that may be you might> > > > > slip my> > > > > > > mail.thats all.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, 15 February, 2009 8:33:27 PM> > > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Siddarthaji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > // By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > > > question> > > > > > > .but> > > > > > > > i got reply from bhaskarji //> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I though you had mailed your query to me.. I am utmost sorry> > > for> > > > > > > replying> > > > > > > > you then.. You should have told me on phone that Your query is> > > > > > > addressed> > > > > > > > to Neelamji especially.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I do not think Neelamji will give you an additional reading> > > now.> > > > I> > > > > am> > > > > > > > sure she would like to take up those cases which are> > > unanswered.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , siddhartha saxaena> > > > > > > > <numerology_ works@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear respected Mr Guarav/Ms Neelam ji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I never wanted to hurt feelings of anyone regarding that> > > > belief> > > > > of> > > > > > > > Lt.Shri B.V.Raman,my simple point is in his book he himself> > > > states> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > although his father in law was offering him a job but he> > > denied> > > > it> > > > > and> > > > > > > > with permission of his grand father he decided to follow what> > > > his> > > > > > > stars> > > > > > > > had for him .How many people do we see like him in these> > > times?I> > > > > > > havent> > > > > > > > seen any except him (read-i mean)In times when everyone is> > > > running> > > > > for> > > > > > > > money by whatever means and having no value for our great> > > > culture> > > > > and> > > > > > > > knowledge I think he is the only one who stood by the ancient> > > > > > > knowledge> > > > > > > > of our saints.There should be many but I was able to read him> > > > only> > > > > in> > > > > > > > this regard.I am extremely sorry if that has hurted you people> > > > in> > > > > > > > anyway.Further i had written that astrology is a very> > > difficult> > > > > brain> > > > > > > > game: I tried learning my self and ended up confused and back> > > to> > > > > > > zero.I> > > > > > > > had metioned "intution" in that note of mine which i strongly> > > > > believe> > > > > > > > and is again also supported by Lt.Mr Raman that we> > > > > > > > > have to have the seed in us then only we can grow it into a> > > > > tree.You> > > > > > > > leave astrology -take music,take scientists,take> > > filmmakers,take> > > > > > > > sports-everywhere the endpoint is that at the Apex only those> > > > have> > > > > > > > reached who not only had an undying spirit but also "God gift"> > > > > which> > > > > > > > turns to "intuition" if prediction is concerned..A. R.Rehman,> > > > > Sachin> > > > > > > > Tendulkar,Clint Eastwood,Amitabh bachchan,Naushad, Javed> > > > > akhtar,Arnold> > > > > > > > schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone(I am sorry but i am a big> > > big> > > > > > > > movie/music buff), and for that matter Gautam Buddha,Samrat> > > > > > > > Ashok,Vikramaditya, Akbar are all examples of never say die> > > > spirit> > > > > in> > > > > > > > their own fields..> > > > > > > > > I believe in "Purusharth" no doubt ,but can you imagine> > > sachin> > > > > > > > tendulkar running ad agency,or amitabh bachchan being pilot or> > > > > taxi> > > > > > > > driver,etc etc it is not like that because it wasnt supposed> > > to> > > > be> > > > > > > > -thats it.and they grew what they had in them.The seed is the> > > > most> > > > > > > > important thing..> > > > > > > > > For some people the direction is already determined more> > > > clearly> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > for others...They keep pursuing it.> > > > > > > > > There can be thousands of debates on this which is not the> > > > > purview> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > this mail.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > By the way Neelamji i had mailed you too my query of 1> > > > question> > > > > .but> > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > got reply from bhaskarji and a very detailed one .i know you> > > > > poeple> > > > > > > > there are really busy ,i can understand that.please keep doing> > > > > this> > > > > > > good> > > > > > > > work.you might not know but it does gives a great inner> > > support> > > > > worth> > > > > > > > more than any money /riches for people in desperate need .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My most warm regards> > > > > > > > > sidhartha saxena> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009 9:51:09 PM> > > > > > > > > Re: siddhartha here sir from bhopal> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Neelamji,> > > > > > > > > Actually through his message, Mr.Saxena wants to convey that> > > > > barring> > > > > > > > > Late Dr.BV Raman, no one is a *true believer of astrology*.> > > > > > > > > Did I get you correct Mr.Saxena?> > > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > > > > > Gaurav.> > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > > > > <neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > > ...>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Siddartha Saxena,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > //I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him *the only> > > > person> > > > > on> > > > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology *and did everything> > > > acccording> > > > > to> > > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > > about> > > > > kp.//> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Can you please give us the basis of this statement. I am> > > not> > > > > at> > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > denying> > > > > > > > > > that BV Raman has been one of the greatest contemporary> > > > > > > astrologers. .> > > > > > > > But> > > > > > > > > > your statement other indications also which are not very> > > > > clear.> > > > > > > > > Please be> > > > > > > > > > kind enough to explain.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/14 siddhartha saxaena <numerology_ works@ >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I admire your true sense of public service and the> > > > straight> > > > > tone> > > > > > > > > you always> > > > > > > > > > > keep to diminish ambiguity of any sort..Kudos. .> > > > > > > > > > > Many people have a tendency to want everything for free> > > be> > > > > it> > > > > > > 1+1> > > > > > > > > schemes> > > > > > > > > > > of clothes,onions potatoes or whatever and especially> > > when> > > > > it> > > > > > > > comes to> > > > > > > > > > > seeking advice of a astrologer everyone wants him to be> > > > free> > > > > of> > > > > > > > > charge and> > > > > > > > > > > tell things for at least an hour if not two.> > > > > > > > > > > In the meanwhile everyone forgets the fact that an> > > > > astrologer is> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > human> > > > > > > > > > > being first of all and as far as my general knowledge is> > > > > > > > concerned-> > > > > > > > > > > astrology is really a difficult brain game.27 stars,360> > > > > > > degrees,12> > > > > > > > > rashis,9> > > > > > > > > > > planets and the sublord, sub-sub lord,sub-sub- sub lord> > > if> > > > > you> > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > practice KP> > > > > > > > > > > paddhati.> > > > > > > > > > > And above all one should always try to keep his tone low> > > > > when> > > > > > > > > talking to a> > > > > > > > > > > person dealing in predictions, if we upset him we are> > > > > harming> > > > > > > > ourselves> > > > > > > > > > > because his intution wont work correctly.thats it.I do> > > > > believe> > > > > > > > > that after> > > > > > > > > > > all the maths the seperating factor for a true genius> > > and> > > > > not so> > > > > > > > > is his> > > > > > > > > > > intuition and how he has developed it.> > > > > > > > > > > I also admire shri B.V.Raman and have read his book "my> > > > > > > > experiences in> > > > > > > > > > > astrology" and to my utteu dismay i find him the only> > > > person> > > > > on> > > > > > > > > this earth> > > > > > > > > > > who truly believed in astrology and did everything> > > > > acccording to> > > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > > planetary positions although he had a conflicting view> > > > about> > > > > kp.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely urge you to dont listen to these talkers and> > > > > keep> > > > > > > > > doing what> > > > > > > > > > > you are .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > > > > > > > > siddhartha saxena> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This mail is sent by siddhartha.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:22:36 AM> > > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: bhaskar behave properly> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Those who find my language vulgar may please leave the> > > > > Group, so> > > > > > > > > that their> > > > > > > > > > > vocabulary is not spoilt, but just to please a few> > > members> > > > I> > > > > > > > > cannit change> > > > > > > > > > > my stance and stand. A beggar will always remain a> > > beggar> > > > > for me> > > > > > > > > and Icannot> > > > > > > > > > > call him a " Shrimant".> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Those who are trying to teach me manners, must sit in my> > > > > place> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > > talk.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > We shall see whether they are justified, or I am> > > > justified.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Those who are asking me to use better language, I ask> > > > them,> > > > > what> > > > > > > > > are their> > > > > > > > > > > credentuials, and how much time are they spending in the> > > > day> > > > > in> > > > > > > > > serving the> > > > > > > > > > > society ?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If they are spending more time then me, let them talk> > > and> > > > > avise,> > > > > > > > > or else> > > > > > > > > > > they are free to leave.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > But I cannot change. I have to talk clear, so that my> > > > point> > > > > is> > > > > > > > > sent to the> > > > > > > > > > > person concerned and there are no two views about it.> > > IfI> > > > I> > > > > use> > > > > > > > > diplomatic> > > > > > > > > > > language or camaflouge my intentions then I am not> > > honest.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > And I wish to remain honest always. Take it or leave it.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rekha Rao,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Please introduce yourself.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You have not seen my vulgarity yet. This is my own> > > Forum> > > > > so> > > > > > > > > thats why i> > > > > > > > > > > > am not crossing the limuts.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know why am I bound to answer You.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > And I dont accept challenges from women, young or old.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > , "rekharao47"> > > > > > > rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rekha Rao rekharao47@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 11:00:46 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > abaaaaaaaaaaaa> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar you dont have manners as u say that you are> > > a> > > > > > > > astrologer> > > > > > > > > > > > > learn some manners if you dont want to answer them> > > > dont> > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > ignore> > > > > > > > > > > > > the mail> > > > > > > > > > > > > insted you use very valgur words> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > BEHAVE AND LEARN MANNERS> > > > > > > > > > > > > U ARE NOT THE GURU OF ASTROLOGY AND NOT THE ONLY IN> > > > THIS> > > > > > > WORLD> > > > > > > > > > > > > EVEN WE CAN USE BETTER VOLGUR WORDS> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I ASK U ONE QUESTION IF U ARE AN ASTROLOGER TELL ME> > > > > > > > > > > > > WHY DID GANDHIJI.NEHRU, LORD RAMA.RAVANA, WERE NOT> > > > HAPPY> > > > > > > WITH> > > > > > > > > THEIR> > > > > > > > > > > > > MARRIED LIFE .> > > > > > > > > > > > > WHICH STARS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNHAPPY ,MARRIED> > > > LIFE> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > CHALLENGE> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > REGARDS> > > > > > > > > > > > > R.RAO> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ANSWER THIS> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite> > > them> > > > > > > > > now.<http://in.rd. ..com/ tagline_messenge r_6/*http:> > > > > > > //messenger.> > > > > > > > ..com/ invite/>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India> > > > > Messenger> > > > > > > at> > > > > > > > http://in.messenger ...com/ ?wm=n/> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to> > > > http://in.promos. . / groups/citygroup s/> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > http://messenger. / invite/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.