Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door. Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation : 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand. (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong, please correct me). Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE FOR FREE ADVICE. 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things, but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be what they are--fools!! When such mails come, send them to the trash bin. Simple. 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due. By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said anything wrong, I may please be excused. Regards. Naresh Mintri Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dear Naresh Ji You well said about the stupid questions asked by the members. An harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry. durga prasad --- On Sat, 6/12/08, Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri wrote: Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri A suggesstion"Jyotishgroup" <jyotish_ganga >Saturday, 6 December, 2008, 9:09 PM Dear Bhaskarji, As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door. Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation : 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand. (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong, please correct me). Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE FOR FREE ADVICE. 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things, but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be what they are--fools!! When such mails come, send them to the trash bin. Simple. 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due. By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said anything wrong, I may please be excused. Regards. Naresh Mintri Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dear Durga Prasad ji, I respect your good views, but society cannot function just with these in isolation. // We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person.// I am very straightforward person, and do not link helping people to FEE. By Gods grace whatever I earn from astrology, most of it is spent on social activities, and donations, and The Lord and my family members are witness to this, and so can be those, who wish to come and check my activities for 2-3 days. Anyway thats my business and lookout and do not owe any explanations to anyone. If the Doctor de-links his help to the patients from his Fees, for relieving their pain, then he will come on the roads. Does anyone advise this to the Doctors ????? No coming to seeing " Daivathvam in every person". This is just not possible unless one is a Sanyasi or a Fakir and even they get angry at time or come out with curses or shraap. And we are nowhere near to Sanyaasis or Fakirs or Yogis, or Sadhus or Sants.Such words look good in satsanga and books, but not in actual Life. One cannot see God in a rapist or a Murderer or thosre robbers who rob people by showing a knife to their victims face. If thsi was the case then there would not have been courts or lawyers or Police, or law enforcing agancies or any forms of justice or forms of punishments would not ahve beeen necessary. If we are going to start seeing the " Daivathvam in every person" then the rapist in whom we see " Daivathvam " will not stop before he has raped every women and girl or child from the locality he stays in. Same with other criminals. And here in Internet Forums, we have white collared criminals, who also have to be dealt with strictly. A person sitting as a third bencher across the fence can sip his coffee and pass comments as a critic very well, but the Life guard who has jumped in the water to save a drowning person from drowning knows very well in which way the wave is swaying with force and how to tackle it . even the Doctor has to hit the new born child to make him breathe. Even the surgeon has to cut up the body to cure the patient. And remember that God is not in us, but We are in Gods idea. Only the particle of God is in us, The atma is in us, and not the Parmatma. We cannot call the atma as Parmatma, until it leaves of all its vasanas and the saptakosha and becomes One with the Whole. Till that time it ceases to be God or the Parmatma. The Space can contain the pot, but the earthern pot cannot contain the Space around us. The little space it contains within its walls, cannot be termed to be actually containing the SPACE. So I dont see God in every one. If it makes me less spiritual, I dont bother. But yes, I am a little more harsh , but have hundreds of reasns for being so. best wishes, Bhaskar. , DURGA PRASAD <bsdp1955 wrote:>> Dear Naresh Ji>  > You well said about the stupid questions asked by the members. An harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry.  > >  > durga prasad> > --- On Sat, 6/12/08, Naresh Mintri nareshmintri wrote:> > Naresh Mintri nareshmintri A suggesstion> "Jyotishgroup" jyotish_ganga > Saturday, 6 December, 2008, 9:09 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,>  > As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door.>  > Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation :>  > 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand. (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one> mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong, please correct me).>  > Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE FOR FREE ADVICE.>  > 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things, but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be what they are--fools!!  When such mails come, send them to the trash bin. Simple.>  > 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due. >  > By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said anything wrong, I may please be excused.>  > Regards.>  > Naresh Mintri> > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dear Durga Prasadji , You mentioned this, which I am re-posting as under - // An harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry// I have not stopped you or anyone from helping the above persons by showing them the way to sanmarga. Why dont you write and help them ? If You had done so, I would not have had the need to scold them. But You only appear to advise me. Why not have you helped them with messages which woud have helped them come on Sanmarga ? I would not have had then, to spoil my own vocabulary, or peace of mind . Another thing. How do you think terrorists must be dealt with, with above teachings ? Should we not scold them or punish them, just because what they are doing in this Life is because of their sukrutham or dushkrutham ? Now please start advising those members who unnecessary ask stupid queries, post them again and again, or not bother to abide by the rules. I will stop scolding them. best wishes, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Durga Prasad ji,> > I respect your good views, but society cannot function just with these> in isolation.> > // We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all> will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every> person.//> > I am very straightforward person, and do not link helping people to FEE.> By Gods grace whatever I earn from astrology, most of it is spent on> social activities, and donations, and The Lord and my family members are> witness to this, and so can be those, who wish to come and check my> activities for 2-3 days. Anyway thats my business and lookout and do not> owe any explanations to anyone. If the Doctor de-links his help to the> patients from his Fees, for relieving their pain, then he will come on> the roads. Does anyone advise this to the Doctors ?????> > No coming to seeing " Daivathvam in every person". This is just not> possible unless one is a Sanyasi or a Fakir and even they get angry at> time or come out with curses or shraap. And we are nowhere near to> Sanyaasis or Fakirs or Yogis, or Sadhus or Sants.Such words look good in> satsanga and books, but not in actual Life. One cannot see God in a> rapist or a Murderer or thosre robbers who rob people by showing a knife> to their victims face. If thsi was the case then there would not have> been courts or lawyers or Police, or law enforcing agancies or any forms> of justice or forms of punishments would not ahve beeen necessary.> > If we are going to start seeing the " Daivathvam in every person" then> the rapist in whom we see " Daivathvam " will not stop before he has> raped every women and girl or child from the locality he stays in. Same> with other criminals. And here in Internet Forums, we have white> collared criminals, who also have to be dealt with strictly. A person> sitting as a third bencher across the fence can sip his coffee and pass> comments as a critic very well, but the Life guard who has jumped in the> water to save a drowning person from drowning knows very well in which> way the wave is swaying with force and how to tackle it . even the> Doctor has to hit the new born child to make him breathe. Even the> surgeon has to cut up the body to cure the patient.> > And remember that God is not in us, but We are in Gods idea. Only the> particle of God is in us, The atma is in us, and not the Parmatma. We> cannot call the atma as Parmatma, until it leaves of all its vasanas and> the saptakosha and becomes One with the Whole. Till that time it ceases> to be God or the Parmatma. The Space can contain the pot, but the> earthern pot cannot contain the Space around us. The little space it> contains within its walls, cannot be termed to be actually containing> the SPACE.> > So I dont see God in every one. If it makes me less spiritual, I dont> bother. But yes, I am a little more harsh , but have hundreds of reasns> for being so.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > , DURGA PRASAD bsdp1955@ wrote:> >> > Dear Naresh Ji> > Â> > You well said about the stupid questions asked by the members. An> harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a> person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or> not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as> per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt> them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way> to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see> the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the> God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the> previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my> feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry. Â> >> > Â> > durga prasad> >> > --- On Sat, 6/12/08, Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@ wrote:> >> > Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@> > A suggesstion> > "Jyotishgroup" jyotish_ganga > > Saturday, 6 December, 2008, 9:09 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> > Â> > As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have> gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I> do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose> of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door.> > Â> > Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation :> > Â> > 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion> that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should> pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of> conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers> who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free> advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for> those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on> ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think> that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can> do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good> husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand.> (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer> before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the> 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one> > mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the> Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they> still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong,> please correct me).> > Â> > Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are> asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE> FOR FREE ADVICE.> > Â> > 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things,> but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who> suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So> what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative> energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of> negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are> doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building> negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be> what they are--fools!!  When such mails come, send them to the trash> bin. Simple.> > Â> > 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the> Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not> follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may> be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for> this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME> OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your> services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due.> > Â> > By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great> regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said> anything wrong, I may please be excused.> > Â> > Regards.> > Â> > Naresh Mintri> >> >> > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger./invite/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Even during the life of jagad guru sakara charya, that great seer didnt resist harsh voilence displayed by one of his disciple to save sankara from a canibal who wanted to have sankara as his meal. By d way doing good or respecting the divinity in a person is by helping him realise his mistake.For some ppl a sound word would do and for some a harsh reply and for some a blow.It dsnt matter with the medium used until the goal is to make the person realize his/her mistake,--- On Tue, 9/12/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: A suggesstionDate: Tuesday, 9 December, 2008, 3:08 PM Dear Durga Prasadji , You mentioned this, which I am re-posting as under - // An harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry// I have not stopped you or anyone from helping the above persons by showing them the way to sanmarga. Why dont you write and help them ? If You had done so, I would not have had the need to scold them. But You only appear to advise me. Why not have you helped them with messages which woud have helped them come on Sanmarga ? I would not have had then, to spoil my own vocabulary, or peace of mind . Another thing. How do you think terrorists must be dealt with, with above teachings ? Should we not scold them or punish them, just because what they are doing in this Life is because of their sukrutham or dushkrutham ? Now please start advising those members who unnecessary ask stupid queries, post them again and again, or not bother to abide by the rules. I will stop scolding them. best wishes, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Durga Prasad ji,> > I respect your good views, but society cannot function just with these> in isolation.> > // We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all> will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every> person.//> > I am very straightforward person, and do not link helping people to FEE.> By Gods grace whatever I earn from astrology, most of it is spent on> social activities, and donations, and The Lord and my family members are> witness to this, and so can be those, who wish to come and check my> activities for 2-3 days. Anyway thats my business and lookout and do not> owe any explanations to anyone. If the Doctor de-links his help to the> patients from his Fees, for relieving their pain, then he will come on> the roads. Does anyone advise this to the Doctors ?????> > No coming to seeing " Daivathvam in every person". This is just not> possible unless one is a Sanyasi or a Fakir and even they get angry at> time or come out with curses or shraap. And we are nowhere near to> Sanyaasis or Fakirs or Yogis, or Sadhus or Sants.Such words look good in> satsanga and books, but not in actual Life. One cannot see God in a> rapist or a Murderer or thosre robbers who rob people by showing a knife> to their victims face. If thsi was the case then there would not have> been courts or lawyers or Police, or law enforcing agancies or any forms> of justice or forms of punishments would not ahve beeen necessary.> > If we are going to start seeing the " Daivathvam in every person" then> the rapist in whom we see " Daivathvam " will not stop before he has> raped every women and girl or child from the locality he stays in. Same> with other criminals. And here in Internet Forums, we have white> collared criminals, who also have to be dealt with strictly. A person> sitting as a third bencher across the fence can sip his coffee and pass> comments as a critic very well, but the Life guard who has jumped in the> water to save a drowning person from drowning knows very well in which> way the wave is swaying with force and how to tackle it . even the> Doctor has to hit the new born child to make him breathe. Even the> surgeon has to cut up the body to cure the patient.> > And remember that God is not in us, but We are in Gods idea. Only the> particle of God is in us, The atma is in us, and not the Parmatma. We> cannot call the atma as Parmatma, until it leaves of all its vasanas and> the saptakosha and becomes One with the Whole. Till that time it ceases> to be God or the Parmatma. The Space can contain the pot, but the> earthern pot cannot contain the Space around us. The little space it> contains within its walls, cannot be termed to be actually containing> the SPACE..> > So I dont see God in every one. If it makes me less spiritual, I dont> bother. But yes, I am a little more harsh , but have hundreds of reasns> for being so.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > , DURGA PRASAD bsdp1955@ wrote:> >> > Dear Naresh Ji> > Â> > You well said about the stupid questions asked by the members. An> harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a> person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or> not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as> per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt> them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way> to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see> the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the> God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the> previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my> feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry. Â> >> > Â> > durga prasad> >> > --- On Sat, 6/12/08, Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@ wrote:> >> > Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@> > A suggesstion> > "Jyotishgroup" jyotish_ganga> > Date: Saturday, 6 December, 2008, 9:09 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> > Â> > As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have> gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I> do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose> of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door.> > Â> > Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation :> > Â> > 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion> that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should> pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of> conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers> who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free> advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for> those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on> ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think> that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can> do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good> husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand.> (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer> before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the> 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one> > mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the> Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they> still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong,> please correct me).> > Â> > Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are> asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE> FOR FREE ADVICE.> > Â> > 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things,> but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who> suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So> what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative> energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of> negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are> doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building> negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be> what they are--fools!!  When such mails come, send them to the trash> bin. Simple.> > Â> > 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the> Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not> follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may> be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for> this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME> OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your> services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due.> > Â> > By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great> regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said> anything wrong, I may please be excused.> > Â> > Regards.> > Â> > Naresh Mintri> >> >> > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dear Bhaskar ji Thanks for respecting my views, regarding the fee you may be right. regarding the Daivathavam --- I too not able to see daivathavam in a rapist, or a robber. But We have to see in who needs a help from us, who raises his hand for a help to come out from his misarable position. I feel we must help them. thanking you with regards durga prasad--- On Tue, 9/12/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: A suggesstion Date: Tuesday, 9 December, 2008, 2:56 PM Dear Durga Prasad ji, I respect your good views, but society cannot function just with these in isolation. // We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person.// I am very straightforward person, and do not link helping people to FEE. By Gods grace whatever I earn from astrology, most of it is spent on social activities, and donations, and The Lord and my family members are witness to this, and so can be those, who wish to come and check my activities for 2-3 days. Anyway thats my business and lookout and do not owe any explanations to anyone. If the Doctor de-links his help to the patients from his Fees, for relieving their pain, then he will come on the roads. Does anyone advise this to the Doctors ????? No coming to seeing " Daivathvam in every person". This is just not possible unless one is a Sanyasi or a Fakir and even they get angry at time or come out with curses or shraap. And we are nowhere near to Sanyaasis or Fakirs or Yogis, or Sadhus or Sants.Such words look good in satsanga and books, but not in actual Life. One cannot see God in a rapist or a Murderer or thosre robbers who rob people by showing a knife to their victims face. If thsi was the case then there would not have been courts or lawyers or Police, or law enforcing agancies or any forms of justice or forms of punishments would not ahve beeen necessary. If we are going to start seeing the " Daivathvam in every person" then the rapist in whom we see " Daivathvam " will not stop before he has raped every women and girl or child from the locality he stays in. Same with other criminals. And here in Internet Forums, we have white collared criminals, who also have to be dealt with strictly. A person sitting as a third bencher across the fence can sip his coffee and pass comments as a critic very well, but the Life guard who has jumped in the water to save a drowning person from drowning knows very well in which way the wave is swaying with force and how to tackle it . even the Doctor has to hit the new born child to make him breathe. Even the surgeon has to cut up the body to cure the patient. And remember that God is not in us, but We are in Gods idea. Only the particle of God is in us, The atma is in us, and not the Parmatma. We cannot call the atma as Parmatma, until it leaves of all its vasanas and the saptakosha and becomes One with the Whole. Till that time it ceases to be God or the Parmatma. The Space can contain the pot, but the earthern pot cannot contain the Space around us. The little space it contains within its walls, cannot be termed to be actually containing the SPACE. So I dont see God in every one. If it makes me less spiritual, I dont bother. But yes, I am a little more harsh , but have hundreds of reasns for being so. best wishes, Bhaskar. , DURGA PRASAD <bsdp1955 wrote:>> Dear Naresh Ji>  > You well said about the stupid questions asked by the members. An harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry.  > >  > durga prasad> > --- On Sat, 6/12/08, Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@ ... wrote:> > Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@ ...> A suggesstion> "Jyotishgroup" jyotish_ganga> Saturday, 6 December, 2008, 9:09 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,>  > As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door.>  > Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation :>  > 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand. (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one> mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong, please correct me).>  > Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE FOR FREE ADVICE.>  > 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things, but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be what they are--fools!!  When such mails come, send them to the trash bin. Simple.>  > 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due. >  > By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said anything wrong, I may please be excused.>  > Regards.>  > Naresh Mintri> > > Connect with friends all over the world. 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Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dear Durga Prasad ji, What I see, you may not see. What You see I may not see. What and how you judge, I may not , and vice versa. We are all engulfed in Maya. Those whom You see as asking for help, are not all genuine people. Many of them are fake ids of other jealous astrologers and members who have not been given continous free readings, which is why they get back in this manner. I have my own ways of picking the weeds, and such members, and scolding them or being harsh to them is one of the ways. Those who wield the knife, can understand only the language of the sword, which I try to make them understand to my level best within the limits of normal decency. best wishes, Bhaskar. , DURGA PRASAD <bsdp1955 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji>  > Thanks for respecting my views, regarding the fee you may be right. regarding the Daivathavam --- I too not able to see daivathavam in a rapist, or a robber. But We have to see in who needs a help from us, who raises his hand for a help to come out from his misarable position. I feel we must help them. >  > thanking you>  > with regards>  > durga prasad> > --- On Tue, 9/12/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: A suggesstion> > Tuesday, 9 December, 2008, 2:56 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Durga Prasad ji,> I respect your good views, but society cannot function just with these in isolation.> //  We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person.//> I am very straightforward person, and do not link helping people to FEE. By Gods grace whatever I earn from astrology, most of it is spent on social activities, and donations, and The Lord and my family members are witness to this, and so can be those, who wish to come and check my activities for 2-3 days. Anyway thats my business and lookout and do not owe any explanations to anyone. If the Doctor de-links his help to the patients from his Fees, for relieving their pain, then he will come on the roads. Does anyone advise this to the Doctors ?????> No coming to seeing " Daivathvam in every person". This is just not possible unless one is a Sanyasi or a Fakir and even they get angry at time or come out with curses or shraap. And we are nowhere near to Sanyaasis or Fakirs or Yogis, or Sadhus or Sants.Such words look good in satsanga and books, but not in actual Life. One cannot see God in a rapist or a Murderer or thosre robbers who rob people by showing a knife to their victims face. If thsi was the case then there would not have been courts or lawyers or Police, or law enforcing agancies or any forms of justice or forms of punishments would not ahve beeen necessary.> If we are going to start seeing the " Daivathvam in every person" then the rapist in whom we see " Daivathvam " will not stop before he has raped every women and girl or child from the locality he stays in. Same with other criminals. And here in Internet Forums, we have white collared criminals, who also have to be dealt with strictly. A person sitting as a third bencher across the fence can sip his coffee and pass comments as a critic very well, but the Life guard who has jumped in the water to save a drowning person from drowning knows very well in which way the wave is swaying with force and how to tackle it . even the Doctor has to hit the new born child to make him breathe. Even the surgeon has to cut up the body to cure the patient.> And remember that God is not in us, but We are in Gods idea. Only the particle of God is in us, The atma is in us, and not the Parmatma. We cannot call the atma as Parmatma, until it leaves of all its vasanas and the saptakosha and becomes One with the Whole. Till that time it ceases to be God or the Parmatma. The Space can contain the pot, but the earthern pot cannot contain the Space around us. The little space it contains within its walls, cannot be termed to be actually containing the SPACE.> So I dont see God in every one. If it makes me less spiritual, I dont bother. But yes, I am a little more harsh , but have hundreds of reasns for being so. > best wishes,> Bhaskar. >  >  >  > > , DURGA PRASAD bsdp1955@ wrote:> >> > Dear Naresh Ji> >  > > You well said about the stupid questions asked by the members. An harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry.  > > > >  > > durga prasad> > > > --- On Sat, 6/12/08, Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@ ... wrote:> > > > Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@ ...> > A suggesstion> > "Jyotishgroup" jyotish_ganga> > Saturday, 6 December, 2008, 9:09 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> >  > > As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door.> >  > > Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation :> >  > > 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand. (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one> > mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong, please correct me).> >  > > Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE FOR FREE ADVICE.> >  > > 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things, but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be what they are--fools!!  When such mails come, send them to the trash bin. Simple.> >  > > 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due. > >  > > By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said anything wrong, I may please be excused.> >  > > Regards.> >  > > Naresh Mintri> > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger./win/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dear Bhaskar Ji You are right. I don't know all these things. I feel very sorry for spoiling your valuble time.with regards durga prasad --- On Tue, 9/12/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: A suggesstion Date: Tuesday, 9 December, 2008, 3:47 PM Dear Durga Prasad ji, What I see, you may not see. What You see I may not see. What and how you judge, I may not , and vice versa. We are all engulfed in Maya. Those whom You see as asking for help, are not all genuine people. Many of them are fake ids of other jealous astrologers and members who have not been given continous free readings, which is why they get back in this manner. I have my own ways of picking the weeds, and such members, and scolding them or being harsh to them is one of the ways. Those who wield the knife, can understand only the language of the sword, which I try to make them understand to my level best within the limits of normal decency. best wishes, Bhaskar. , DURGA PRASAD <bsdp1955 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji>  > Thanks for respecting my views, regarding the fee you may be right. regarding the Daivathavam --- I too not able to see daivathavam in a rapist, or a robber. But We have to see in who needs a help from us, who raises his hand for a help to come out from his misarable position. I feel we must help them. >  > thanking you>  > with regards>  > durga prasad> > --- On Tue, 9/12/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Re: A suggesstion> > Tuesday, 9 December, 2008, 2:56 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Durga Prasad ji,> I respect your good views, but society cannot function just with these in isolation.> //  We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person.//> I am very straightforward person, and do not link helping people to FEE. By Gods grace whatever I earn from astrology, most of it is spent on social activities, and donations, and The Lord and my family members are witness to this, and so can be those, who wish to come and check my activities for 2-3 days. Anyway thats my business and lookout and do not owe any explanations to anyone. If the Doctor de-links his help to the patients from his Fees, for relieving their pain, then he will come on the roads. Does anyone advise this to the Doctors ?????> No coming to seeing " Daivathvam in every person". This is just not possible unless one is a Sanyasi or a Fakir and even they get angry at time or come out with curses or shraap. And we are nowhere near to Sanyaasis or Fakirs or Yogis, or Sadhus or Sants.Such words look good in satsanga and books, but not in actual Life. One cannot see God in a rapist or a Murderer or thosre robbers who rob people by showing a knife to their victims face. If thsi was the case then there would not have been courts or lawyers or Police, or law enforcing agancies or any forms of justice or forms of punishments would not ahve beeen necessary.> If we are going to start seeing the " Daivathvam in every person" then the rapist in whom we see " Daivathvam " will not stop before he has raped every women and girl or child from the locality he stays in. Same with other criminals. And here in Internet Forums, we have white collared criminals, who also have to be dealt with strictly. A person sitting as a third bencher across the fence can sip his coffee and pass comments as a critic very well, but the Life guard who has jumped in the water to save a drowning person from drowning knows very well in which way the wave is swaying with force and how to tackle it . even the Doctor has to hit the new born child to make him breathe. Even the surgeon has to cut up the body to cure the patient.> And remember that God is not in us, but We are in Gods idea. Only the particle of God is in us, The atma is in us, and not the Parmatma. We cannot call the atma as Parmatma, until it leaves of all its vasanas and the saptakosha and becomes One with the Whole. Till that time it ceases to be God or the Parmatma. The Space can contain the pot, but the earthern pot cannot contain the Space around us. The little space it contains within its walls, cannot be termed to be actually containing the SPACE.> So I dont see God in every one. If it makes me less spiritual, I dont bother. But yes, I am a little more harsh , but have hundreds of reasns for being so. > best wishes,> Bhaskar. >  >  >  > > , DURGA PRASAD bsdp1955@ wrote:> >> > Dear Naresh Ji> >  > > You well said about the stupid questions asked by the members. An harsh reply is spoiling the mood of a peacefull minds like me. If a person is having a dirty behaviour, not feels abourt the character, or not minding the food behaviour, every thing is possible in this life as per his previous births sukrutham or dushkrutham. We should not hurt them with harsh scoldings. We should help them to come out of their way to sanmarg. This all will not be linked with the FEE. One has to see the Daivathvam in every person. Jagdguru Adi Shankaracharya has seen the God in Chadala. If the person realised and changed his path from the previous, that will become a great belessing of God to us. This is my feeling. If I hurts any body I am sorry.  > > > >  > > durga prasad> > > > --- On Sat, 6/12/08, Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@ ... wrote:> > > > Naresh Mintri nareshmintri@ ...> > A suggesstion> > "Jyotishgroup" jyotish_ganga> > Saturday, 6 December, 2008, 9:09 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> >  > > As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door.> >  > > Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation :> >  > > 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand. (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one> > mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong, please correct me).> >  > > Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE FOR FREE ADVICE.> >  > > 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things, but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be what they are--fools!!  When such mails come, send them to the trash bin. Simple.> >  > > 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due. > >  > > By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said anything wrong, I may please be excused.> >  > > Regards.> >  > > Naresh Mintri> > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. 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Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Naresh ji Hari Om, I very much agree with you. I have been thinking to write exactly the same thing to BHASKAR ji who has been doing very sincerely a very good job for many of us in the society but loosing valueable energy on useless people.However, you found right words and right time to do so. I am sure that intelligent person, Mr Bhaskar should consider such amendments to save his time and energy to devote more time for many other good things he is supposed to do. Hari Om,Davendra K. Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dear Nareshji, Thank You for your kind mail and advise to members from the sacred texts. I need to contemplate on certain matters before giving a conclusive reply to You. Please bear with me for a day or two. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,>  > As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door.>  > Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation :>  > 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand. (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one> mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong, please correct me).>  > Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE FOR FREE ADVICE.>  > 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things, but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be what they are--fools!!  When such mails come, send them to the trash bin. Simple.>  > 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due. >  > By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said anything wrong, I may please be excused.>  > Regards.>  > Naresh Mintri> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Dear Naresh ji, Sorry for the delay in the reply to this mail. Actually I was not sure what course of action I must be taking, which is why I could not reply You before. I have come to some decesion now, and let us not say its for ever, but till I can hold it. I have now decided to answer for free , only financial/business related or job security problems, as per your well meant advise to me. This will certainly save precious time, which can be used judiciously just as you suggested. And the major point of worry in ones Life is shortage of finance, and rest most of the problems are transitory and superflous. We better have a look at it, because this solved would solve many other problems automatically. Yes for those who think marriage is the be all and the end all , let them pay to know their relevant replies. Nobody should waste time on such fancies when most of these are coming from those indulged in Love affairs. About the Stotras you mentioned for both Girls and boys who wish to get married, whenever you have the time, please search for them in Hindi ( Or sanskrit I mean ) and upload them, or send them to my personal email id, where I will check and upload them in Your Contribution File in the Files Section. About my loosing my temper , and consequently building negative energy, what You say is very right. It does not affect the other person, but just me. I will try to take care of it, but do not promise anything. We are fortunate to have a member like you who gives good advise fearlessly and as one of the own family. regards, Bhaskar. , Naresh Mintri <nareshmintri wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,>  > As a member of this group, I have been receiving the digest and have gone through the funny questions and sometimes your very strong reply. I do agree with you that fools should be shown their place, given a dose of their own medicine, and if needed, shown the door.>  > Here is what I suggest, on the way you can deal with the situation :>  > 1. When I joined the group in July-Aug '08, I had given a suggesstion that you stop free advice system. Anyone needing your service, should pay. Anything given for free - does not carry with it the power of conviction. For free advice, members may approach the other astrologers who are advertising themselves. If you wish to continue with the free advice, which is your prerogative, then please stop free advice for those who ask for marriage dates and times. They can spend lakhs on ceremonies and feasts, but can't pay (you something. For them, who think that marriage is the be-all and end-all of everything in life, they can do something better. For girls wishing to get married and find a good husband, they can read Doha 227 to 236 of Ramcharitramanas Balkand. (This is the piece when Sitaji goes to Gouriji's temple for prayer before swayamvar and asks for a good husband). For boy's can do the 2nd. last sholka of Argalastrotra from Durga-Saptashati, one> mala (108 sholkas) daily in front of a picture of Bhagwatiji (not the Das-bhuja Mahisurmadini Durga). You can give the correct shloka. If they still want to ask you, then they will have to pay. (If I am wrong, please correct me).>  > Free advice, if you wish to give can be given to those who are asking re: financial/business problems or job security only. NO ONE ELSE FOR FREE ADVICE.>  > 2. There are mad people in this world. They say a lot of mad things, but do we loose our temper? What is the point in loosing our temper. Who suffers? YOU!! It hardly affects them to whom it has been directed. So what is the point in loosing your temper? If you give out negative energy, you will get negative energy in return. Also this build-up of negative energy inside you will only hurt you in some way. Here you are doing service to all of us members, and about you? You are building negativities by your anger. So just forget them and let them be what they are--fools!!  When such mails come, send them to the trash bin. Simple.>  > 3. I hard very recently requested all friends in the group to see the Home Page for instructions and then write to you. If these people do not follow the advice, their mails should also go to the trash bin. You may be termed arrogant, but then you have a family to take care of, and for this you have to earn by using your time judiciously. DO NOT WASTE TIME OVER THESE. If this group looses members, so be it. No harm. Your services should be acknowledged, and it has to get its due. >  > By going through the messages in the Digest, I have developed a great regard for you, and that is why I am writing all this. If I have said anything wrong, I may please be excused.>  > Regards.>  > Naresh Mintri> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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