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I have a problem with a very good freind of mine . She is quite orthodox I dont know whether I should Use some other word instead of orthodox I beleive in Karma But half of my freinds Hard earning goes on different astrologers Always she is busy in doing rituals told by different astrologers Otherwise My freind is a very good hearted lady always serving others & needful How shouls I convince her to stop all these activities--- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Old Customs and Traditions Date: Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 2:14 PM

 

 

 

Dear Naresh ji,

Thank you for affirmation of what has been written.

You are absolutely right that " You have to> keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument, this > is just an addition. " Absolutely right. Exactly what I meant but did not put it in the words you have put, for fear of people not understandning.

About this " doha " again you are right, we normally recite this when getting in the car and embaking for any trips to some local towns or pilgrimages nearby. I use it in day to day Life too when ever I step out of the house. If I forget than as soon as my foot lands of the pavement or the road, Lord Hanumanji makes me remember this.

I appreciate your taking out sometown for this interaction. I was very sad that this Forum is reduced to only for replying to members for their queries. Your mail has heartened my spiris, that yes members are aware and reading other posts too .

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

, "supriyaamp" <nareshmintri@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Bhaskarji,> > I agree with your observation that there is a scientific basis in all> the rituals and customs in Hindu religion. Our Rishis and Munis had> enormous foresight and through their studies they had formulated certain> norms, which in today's scientific bent of mind, where evrything is> questioned and logic sought, we have rejected most of them.> > As for keeping your mouth closed during passing of urine/stool, Mudra> Vigyan says that it is not enough to keep your mouth closed. You have to> keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the> gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument, this> is just an addition.> > As for the "doha" from Ramcharitmanas, the version published by Gita>

Press, Gorakhpur says that this doha should be recited before entering a> new town/office where you go for work, just as Sri Hanumanji had done> before entering Lanka. Your comments, pl.> > Naresh> > ============ =========> Posted through Grouply, the better way> to access your like this one.> http://www.grouply. com/?code= post>

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Good evening Bela,

I would like to respond to this, but only after taking in account, your background, education , intelligence levels, and your faith and experience in astrology.

So please enlighten meon this first, then I will like to give you a proper reply.

In the meanwhile please know that if you are not convinced then how will you convince your friend ?

You are contradicting yourself by this mail. Onone side you stay in this Group, which shows you are a believer in astrology, then how will you try to educate your friend not to believe in this ?

Bhaskar.

 

, Bela Shodhan <belashodhan wrote:>> Good Evening sir >       I have a problem with a very good freind of mine . She is quite orthodox I dont know whether I should Use some other word instead of orthodox I beleive in Karma But half of my freinds Hard earning goes on different astrologers Always she is busy in doing rituals told by different astrologers Otherwise My freind is a very good hearted lady always serving others & needful How shouls I convince her to stop all these activities> > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: Old Customs and Traditions> > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 2:14 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji,> Thank you for affirmation of what has been written.> You are absolutely right that " You have to> > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument, this > is just an addition. " Absolutely right. Exactly what I meant but did not put it in the words you have put, for fear of people not understandning. > About this " doha " again you are right, we normally recite this when getting in the car and embaking for any trips to some local towns or pilgrimages nearby.  I use it in day to day Life too when ever I step out of the house. If I forget than as soon as my foot lands of the pavement or the road, Lord Hanumanji makes me remember this.> I appreciate your taking out sometown for this interaction. I was very sad that this Forum is reduced to only for replying to members for their queries. Your mail has heartened my spiris, that yes members are aware and reading other posts too . > best wishes,> Bhaskar.  > >  > > , "supriyaamp" <nareshmintri@ ...> wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > > I agree with your observation that there is a scientific basis in all> > the rituals and customs in Hindu religion. Our Rishis and Munis had> > enormous foresight and through their studies they had formulated certain> > norms, which in today's scientific bent of mind, where evrything is> > questioned and logic sought, we have rejected most of them.> > > > As for keeping your mouth closed during passing of urine/stool, Mudra> > Vigyan says that it is not enough to keep your mouth closed. You have to> > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the> > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument, this> > is just an addition.> > > > As for the "doha" from Ramcharitmanas, the version published by Gita> > Press, Gorakhpur says that this doha should be recited before entering a> > new town/office where you go for work, just as Sri Hanumanji had done> > before entering Lanka. Your comments, pl.> > > > Naresh> > > > ============ =========> > Posted through Grouply, the better way> > to access your like this one.> > http://www.grouply. com/?code= post> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

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Iam a bele but not orthodox There is a difference between beleiving with logic & being orthodox and not following the rational behaviour Always trust in GOD & destiny but also beleive in EFFORTS & KARMA If an astrologer says that a grim ituation is there in your horoscopes then it doesnt means that you will stop doing efforts Pray to God To make your grim position towards lighter side But my efforts will be same This is my beleif--- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: R Date: Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 4:38 PM

 

 

 

Good evening Bela,

I would like to respond to this, but only after taking in account, your background, education , intelligence levels, and your faith and experience in astrology.

So please enlighten meon this first, then I will like to give you a proper reply.

In the meanwhile please know that if you are not convinced then how will you convince your friend ?

You are contradicting yourself by this mail. Onone side you stay in this Group, which shows you are a believer in astrology, then how will you try to educate your friend not to believe in this ?

Bhaskar.

 

, Bela Shodhan <belashodhan@ ...> wrote:>> Good Evening sir > Â Â Â Â Â Â I have a problem with a very good freind of mine . She is quite orthodox I dont know whether I should Use some other word instead of orthodox I beleive in Karma But half of my freinds Hard earning goes on different astrologers Always she is busy in doing rituals told by different astrologers Otherwise My freind is a very good hearted lady always serving others & needful How shouls I convince her to stop all these activities> > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Re: Old Customs and Traditions> > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 2:14 PM> > > > > > >

> Dear Naresh ji,> Thank you for affirmation of what has been written.> You are absolutely right that " You have to> > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument, this > is just an addition. " Absolutely right. Exactly what I meant but did not put it in the words you have put, for fear of people not understandning. > About this " doha " again you are right, we normally recite this when getting in the car and embaking for any trips to some local towns or pilgrimages nearby.  I use it in day to day Life too when ever I step out of the house. If I forget than as soon as my foot lands of the pavement or the road, Lord Hanumanji makes me remember this.> I appreciate your taking out sometown for this interaction. I was very sad that this Forum is reduced to only for replying to members for their queries..

Your mail has heartened my spiris, that yes members are aware and reading other posts too . > best wishes,> Bhaskar.  > >  > > , "supriyaamp" <nareshmintri@ ...> wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > > I agree with your observation that there is a scientific basis in all> > the rituals and customs in Hindu religion. Our Rishis and Munis had> > enormous foresight and through their studies they had formulated certain> > norms, which in today's scientific bent of mind, where evrything is> > questioned and logic sought, we have rejected most of them.> > > > As for keeping your mouth closed during passing of urine/stool, Mudra> > Vigyan says that it is not enough to keep your mouth closed. You have to> > keep your teeth pressed

and a slight pressure should be there on the> > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument, this> > is just an addition.> > > > As for the "doha" from Ramcharitmanas, the version published by Gita> > Press, Gorakhpur says that this doha should be recited before entering a> > new town/office where you go for work, just as Sri Hanumanji had done> > before entering Lanka. Your comments, pl.> > > > Naresh> > > > ============ =========> > Posted through Grouply, the better way> > to access your like this one.> > http://www.grouply. com/?code= post> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. /

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Dear Bela,

But who said You are orthodox ? And who said about not following rational behaviour ?

So you think we ought to just throw out the whole Jyotish system, then ?" I personally belive in this order-

1) Belief in ones hard work. there is no substitute for hard work.

2) belief in God.

3) Belief in Jyotish.

In that order .

Now your comments ?

Bhaskar.

 

, Bela Shodhan <belashodhan wrote:>> Sir >  Iam a bele but not orthodox There is a difference between beleiving with logic & being orthodox and not following the rational behaviour Always trust in GOD & destiny but also beleive in EFFORTS & KARMA If an astrologer says that a grim ituation is there in your horoscopes then it doesnt means that you will stop doing efforts Pray to God To make your grim position towards lighter side But my efforts will be same This is my beleif> > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: R> > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 4:38 PM> > > > > > > > Good evening Bela,> I would like to respond to this, but only after taking in account, your background, education , intelligence levels, and your faith and experience in astrology.> So please enlighten meon this first, then I will like to give you a proper reply.> In the meanwhile please know that if you are not convinced then how will you convince your friend ?> You are contradicting yourself by this mail. Onone side you stay in this Group, which shows you are a believer in astrology, then how will you try to educate your friend not to believe in this ?> Bhaskar. >  > > , Bela Shodhan <belashodhan@ ...> wrote:> >> > Good Evening sir > >       I have a problem with a very good freind of mine . She is quite orthodox I dont know whether I should Use some other word instead of orthodox I beleive in Karma But half of my freinds Hard earning goes on different astrologers Always she is busy in doing rituals told by different astrologers Otherwise My freind is a very good hearted lady always serving others & needful How shouls I convince her to stop all these activities> > > > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Re: Old Customs and Traditions> > > > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 2:14 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji,> > Thank you for affirmation of what has been written.> > You are absolutely right that " You have to> > > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument, this > is just an addition. " Absolutely right. Exactly what I meant but did not put it in the words you have put, for fear of people not understandning. > > About this " doha " again you are right, we normally recite this when getting in the car and embaking for any trips to some local towns or pilgrimages nearby.  I use it in day to day Life too when ever I step out of the house. If I forget than as soon as my foot lands of the pavement or the road, Lord Hanumanji makes me remember this.> > I appreciate your taking out sometown for this interaction. I was very sad that this Forum is reduced to only for replying to members for their queries. Your mail has heartened my spiris, that yes members are aware and reading other posts too . > > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.  > > > >  > > > > , "supriyaamp" <nareshmintri@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > > > > I agree with your observation that there is a scientific basis in all> > > the rituals and customs in Hindu religion. Our Rishis and Munis had> > > enormous foresight and through their studies they had formulated certain> > > norms, which in today's scientific bent of mind, where evrything is> > > questioned and logic sought, we have rejected most of them.> > > > > > As for keeping your mouth closed during passing of urine/stool, Mudra> > > Vigyan says that it is not enough to keep your mouth closed. You have to> > > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the> > > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument, this> > > is just an addition.> > > > > > As for the "doha" from Ramcharitmanas, the version published by Gita> > > Press, Gorakhpur says that this doha should be recited before entering a> > > new town/office where you go for work, just as Sri Hanumanji had done> > > before entering Lanka. Your comments, pl.> > > > > > Naresh> > > > > > ============ =========> > > Posted through Grouply, the better way> > > to access your like this one.> > > http://www.grouply. com/?code= post> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/>

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I meant to say Iam not orthodox That Iwill not spend hard earned money n going to different astrologers I will stick to one if I am willing to go

regards--- On Mon, 24/11/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: R Date: Monday, 24 November, 2008, 11:16 AM

 

 

 

Dear Bela,

But who said You are orthodox ? And who said about not following rational behaviour ?

So you think we ought to just throw out the whole Jyotish system, then ?" I personally belive in this order-

1) Belief in ones hard work. there is no substitute for hard work.

2) belief in God.

3) Belief in Jyotish.

In that order .

Now your comments ?

Bhaskar.

 

, Bela Shodhan <belashodhan@ ...> wrote:>> Sir > Â Iam a bele but not orthodox There is a difference between beleiving with logic & being orthodox and not following the rational behaviour Always trust in GOD & destiny but also beleive in EFFORTS & KARMA If an astrologer says that a grim ituation is there in your horoscopes then it doesnt means that you will stop doing efforts Pray to God To make your grim position towards lighter side But my efforts will be same This is my beleif> > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Re: R> > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 4:38 PM> > > > > > > > Good evening Bela,> I would like to respond to this,

but only after taking in account, your background, education , intelligence levels, and your faith and experience in astrology..> So please enlighten meon this first, then I will like to give you a proper reply.> In the meanwhile please know that if you are not convinced then how will you convince your friend ?> You are contradicting yourself by this mail. Onone side you stay in this Group, which shows you are a believer in astrology, then how will you try to educate your friend not to believe in this ?> Bhaskar. >  > > , Bela Shodhan <belashodhan@ ...> wrote:> >> > Good Evening sir > >       I have a problem with a very good freind of mine . She is quite orthodox I dont know whether I should Use some other word instead of orthodox I beleive

in Karma But half of my freinds Hard earning goes on different astrologers Always she is busy in doing rituals told by different astrologers Otherwise My freind is a very good hearted lady always serving others & needful How shouls I convince her to stop all these activities> > > > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Re: Old Customs and Traditions> > > > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 2:14 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naresh ji,> > Thank you for affirmation of what has been written.> > You are absolutely right that " You have to> > > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the > gums. This prevents gum

trouble. Without disputing your argument, this > is just an addition. " Absolutely right. Exactly what I meant but did not put it in the words you have put, for fear of people not understandning. > > About this " doha " again you are right, we normally recite this when getting in the car and embaking for any trips to some local towns or pilgrimages nearby.  I use it in day to day Life too when ever I step out of the house. If I forget than as soon as my foot lands of the pavement or the road, Lord Hanumanji makes me remember this.> > I appreciate your taking out sometown for this interaction. I was very sad that this Forum is reduced to only for replying to members for their queries. Your mail has heartened my spiris, that yes members are aware and reading other posts too . > > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.  > > > >  >

> > > , "supriyaamp" <nareshmintri@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > > > > I agree with your observation that there is a scientific basis in all> > > the rituals and customs in Hindu religion. Our Rishis and Munis had> > > enormous foresight and through their studies they had formulated certain> > > norms, which in today's scientific bent of mind, where evrything is> > > questioned and logic sought, we have rejected most of them.> > > > > > As for keeping your mouth closed during passing of urine/stool, Mudra> > > Vigyan says that it is not enough to keep your mouth closed. You have to> > > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on the> > > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing

your argument, this> > > is just an addition.> > > > > > As for the "doha" from Ramcharitmanas, the version published by Gita> > > Press, Gorakhpur says that this doha should be recited before entering a> > > new town/office where you go for work, just as Sri Hanumanji had done> > > before entering Lanka. Your comments, pl.> > > > > > Naresh> > > > > > ============ =========> > > Posted through Grouply, the better way> > > to access your like this one.> > > http://www.grouply. com/?code= post> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it

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Bela,

 

So what message you have now ?

 

1) for me,

 

2) for the members.

 

3) for your friend .

 

And by the way, which one are you going to stick to, if you have

decided, then please suggest that to your friend too.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Bela Shodhan <belashodhan

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>

> Sir

> Â I meant to say Iam not orthodox That Iwill not spend hard earned

money n going to different astrologers I will stick to one if I am

willing to go

> regards

>

> --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: R

>

> Monday, 24 November, 2008, 11:16 AM

>

Dear Bela,

> But who said You are orthodox ? And who said about not following

rational behaviour ?

> So you think we ought to just throw out the whole Jyotish

> Â system, then ? "

> I personally belive in this order-

> 1) Belief in ones hard work. there is no substitute for hard work.

> 2) belief in God.

> 3) Belief in Jyotish.

> In that order .

> Now your comments ?

> Bhaskar.

> Â

>

> , Bela Shodhan <belashodhan@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Sir

> >  Iam a bele but not orthodox There is a difference between

beleiving with logic & being orthodox and not following the rational

behaviour Always trust in GOD & destiny but also beleive in EFFORTS &

KARMA If an astrologer says that a grim ituation is there in your

horoscopes then it doesnt means that you will stop doing efforts Pray to

God To make your grim position towards lighter side But my efforts will

be same This is my beleif

> >

> > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > Re: R

> >

> > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 4:38 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Good evening Bela,

> > I would like to respond to this, but only after taking in

account, your background, education , intelligence levels, and

your faith and experience in astrology.

> > So please enlighten meon this first, then I will like to give you a

proper reply.

> > In the meanwhile please know that if you are not convinced then how

will you convince your friend ?

> > You are contradicting yourself by this mail. Onone side you stay in

this Group, which shows you are a believer in astrology, then how will

you try to educate your friend not to believe in this ?

> > Bhaskar.

> > ÂÂ

> >

> > , Bela Shodhan <belashodhan@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Good Evening sir

> > >    ÂÂÂ

  I have a problem with a very good

freind of mine . She is quite orthodox I dont know whether I should Use

some other word instead of orthodox I beleive in Karma But half of my

freinds Hard earning goes on different astrologers Always she is busy in

doing rituals told by different astrologers Otherwise My freind is a

very good hearted lady always serving others & needful How shouls I

convince her to stop all these activities

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > Re: Old Customs and Traditions

> > >

> > > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 2:14 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Naresh ji,

> > > Thank you for affirmation of what has been written.

> > > You are absolutely right that " You have to

> > > > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on

the > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument,

this > is just an addition. " Absolutely right. Exactly what I meant but

did not put it in the words you have put, for fear of people not

understandning.

> > > About this " doha " again you are right, we normally recite this

when getting in the car and embaking for any trips to

some local towns or pilgrimages nearby.  I use it in day

to day Life too when ever I step out of the house. If I forget than as

soon as my foot lands of the pavement or the road, Lord Hanumanji makes

me remember this.

> > > I appreciate your taking out sometown for this interaction. I was

very sad that this Forum is reduced to only for replying to members for

their queries. Your mail has heartened my spiris, that yes members are

aware and reading other posts too .ÂÂÂ

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar. ÂÂÂ

> > >

> > > ÂÂÂ

> > >

> > > , " supriyaamp "

<nareshmintri@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > >

> > > > I agree with your observation that there is a scientific basis

in all

> > > > the rituals and customs in Hindu religion. Our Rishis and Munis

had

> > > > enormous foresight and through their studies they had formulated

certain

> > > > norms, which in today's scientific bent of mind, where evrything

is

> > > > questioned and logic sought, we have rejected most of them.

> > > >

> > > > As for keeping your mouth closed during passing of urine/stool,

Mudra

> > > > Vigyan says that it is not enough to keep your mouth closed. You

have to

> > > > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there on

the

> > > > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your

argument, this

> > > > is just an addition.

> > > >

> > > > As for the " doha " from Ramcharitmanas, the version published by

Gita

> > > > Press, Gorakhpur says that this doha should be recited before

entering a

> > > > new town/office where you go for work, just as Sri Hanumanji had

done

> > > > before entering Lanka. Your comments, pl.

> > > >

> > > > Naresh

> > > >

> > > > ============ =========

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> > > > to access your like this one.

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Nice discussion going on.

By the way astrology is not here to stop a person form doing what he wants or to prove to him that he cannot aspire for higer purpose than what his planets force him.Indeed astrology is to say to the man that thisis how his life is becoz of the deeds he did and if he can start changing these type of deeds his horoscope and destiny will both change.

 

There was a time when blessed holy people used to make a person change his fate and horoscope by divine communion and of course now we have astrologers who are trying to do the same by showing us remedies.

 

sahi hai naa bhaskar ji?

 

 

--- On Mon, 24/11/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: R Date: Monday, 24 November, 2008, 10:37 PM

 

 

Bela,So what message you have now ?1) for me,2) for the members.3) for your friend .And by the way, which one are you going to stick to, if you havedecided, then please suggest that to your friend too.Bhaskar., Bela Shodhan <belashodhan@ ...>wrote:>> Sir> Â I meant to say Iam not orthodox That Iwill not spend hard earnedmoney n going to different astrologers I will stick to one if I amwilling to go> regards>> --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Re: R> > Monday, 24 November,

2008, 11:16 AM>>>>>>>> Dear Bela,> But who said You are orthodox ? And who said about not followingrational behaviour ?> So you think we ought to just throw out the whole Jyotish>  system, then ?"> I personally belive in this order-> 1) Belief in ones hard work. there is no substitute for hard work.> 2) belief in God.> 3) Belief in Jyotish.> In that order .> Now your comments ?> Bhaskar.> Â>> , Bela Shodhan <belashodhan wrote:> >> > Sir> >  Iam a bele but not orthodox There is a difference betweenbeleiving with logic & being orthodox and not following the rationalbehaviour Always trust in GOD & destiny but also beleive in EFFORTS & KARMA If an astrologer says that a grim ituation is there in

yourhoroscopes then it doesnt means that you will stop doing efforts Pray toGod To make your grim position towards lighter side But my efforts willbe same This is my beleif> >> > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Re: R> > > > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 4:38 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Good evening Bela,> > I would like to respond to this, but only after taking inaccount, your background, education , intelligence levels, andyour faith and experience in astrology.> > So please enlighten meon this first, then I will like to give you aproper reply.> > In the meanwhile please know that if you are not convinced

then howwill you convince your friend ?> > You are contradicting yourself by this mail. Onone side you stay inthis Group, which shows you are a believer in astrology, then how willyou try to educate your friend not to believe in this ?> > Bhaskar.> > ÂÂ> >> > @ .. com, Bela Shodhan <belashodhan wrote:> > >> > > Good Evening sir> > >    Â  I have a problem with a very goodfreind of mine . She is quite orthodox I dont know whether I should Usesome other word instead of orthodox I beleive in Karma But half of myfreinds Hard earning goes on different astrologers Always she is busy indoing rituals told by different astrologers Otherwise My freind is avery good hearted lady always

serving others & needful How shouls Iconvince her to stop all these activities> > >> > > --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > Re: Old Customs and Traditions> > > @ .. com> > > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 2:14 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Naresh ji,> > > Thank you for affirmation of what has been written.> > > You are absolutely right that " You have to> > > > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be there onthe > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing your argument,this > is just an addition. " Absolutely right. Exactly what I

meant butdid not put it in the words you have put, for fear of people notunderstandning.> > > About this " doha " again you are right, we normally recite thiswhen getting in the car and embaking for any trips tosome local towns or pilgrimages nearby.  I use it in dayto day Life too when ever I step out of the house. If I forget than assoon as my foot lands of the pavement or the road, Lord Hanumanji makesme remember this.> > > I appreciate your taking out sometown for this interaction. I wasvery sad that this Forum is reduced to only for replying to members fortheir queries. Your mail has heartened my spiris, that yes members areaware and reading other posts too .ÂÂÂ> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar. ÂÂÂ> > >> > > ÂÂÂ> >

>> > > , "supriyaamp"<nareshmintri@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > >> > > > I agree with your observation that there is a scientific basisin all> > > > the rituals and customs in Hindu religion. Our Rishis and Munishad> > > > enormous foresight and through their studies they had formulatedcertain> > > > norms, which in today's scientific bent of mind, where evrythingis> > > > questioned and logic sought, we have rejected most of them.> > > >> > > > As for keeping your mouth closed during passing of urine/stool,Mudra> > > > Vigyan says that it is not enough to keep your mouth closed. Youhave to> > > > keep your teeth pressed and a slight pressure should be

there onthe> > > > gums. This prevents gum trouble. Without disputing yourargument, this> > > > is just an addition.> > > >> > > > As for the "doha" from Ramcharitmanas, the version published byGita> > > > Press, Gorakhpur says that this doha should be recited beforeentering a> > > > new town/office where you go for work, just as Sri Hanumanji haddone> > > > before entering Lanka. Your comments, pl.> > > >> > > > Naresh> > > >> > > > ============ =========> > > > Posted through Grouply, the better way> > > > to access your like this one.> > > > http://www.grouply. com/?code= post> > > >> > >> >

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