Navamsa

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Hello Terrance,

 

You may read about Navamsa as per SA at

 

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory/t12.htm

 

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory/t14.htm

 

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory/t15.htm

 

If you are using any horoscope software the navamsa is calculated with the

help of the software.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

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" Terrance Wollin " <trwollin

 

Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:31 PM

Navamsa

 

 

> Hello All.

>

> I am attempting to refrain from asking too many questions until I have

> received and read more of the Professor's books, but I am eager and

> curious to know more about some basic topics, such as navamsa - what it is

> and how it is calculated.

>

> I have looked up the term on the internet, but I am not sure if the

> usages are consistent with the SA.

>

> Thanks for any further info,

>

> Terrance

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Perfect.

I had missed this section of your Site.

 

Thank You, Sir.

 

Terrance

 

siha wrote:

 

Hello Terrance,

 

You may read about Navamsa as per SA at

 

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory/t12.htm

 

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory/t14.htm

 

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory/t15.htm

 

If you are using any horoscope software the navamsa is calculated with the

help of the software.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

-

" Terrance Wollin " <trwollin

 

Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:31 PM

Navamsa

 

 

> Hello All.

>

> I am attempting to refrain from asking too many questions until I have

> received and read more of the Professor's books, but I am eager and

> curious to know more about some basic topics, such as navamsa - what it is

> and how it is calculated.

>

> I have looked up the term on the internet, but I am not sure if the

> usages are consistent with the SA.

>

> Thanks for any further info,

>

> Terrance

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello Mr. Jayachandran,

 

It is good in navamsa.

 

 

 

 

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" rama_jayachandran " <rama_jayachandran

 

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:42 AM

Navamsa

 

 

> Dear professor,

> Is it correct that the position of planets in Navamsa read with

> respect to Natal Lagna? I mean Aries rising in natal, Leo is the lagna

> in Navamsa, then any planet in Scorpio in Navamsa is in bad house

> (eighth), or in good house (fourth).

>

> Any reply will be applicable to all D-chart?

>

> Regards,

> jayachandran

>

>

>

>

>

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Aparajita , Namaskar

 

If you can get the Varga book by SJC then its very good source to learn

to read the vargas. Navamsa is quite different in readings, forth bhava

is for diseases, every planet in sixth is bad etc.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

 

aparajita_vidya napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Pranam Gurujis,

 

I find difficult to read the navamsas, is it the same way as rasi?

All houses in navamsa have similar meaning as in rasi?.. like, 1st

house lagna (body), 2nd house (speech, food)..etc etc.. then how is it

different from rasi?

Also i read in an old mail that trikona to navamsa is personal talent,

and also trikona to AK in navamsa.. what is the difference in the two?

 

-Yours sincerely

Aparajita

[Guest guest]

dear rafal jee,

does rahu in 6th of navamsha also read as bad?

and does the 4th house lord of navamsha show the remedies??

 

best wishes

rhoda--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Navamsa Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 3:11 AM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Aparajita , NamaskarIf you can get the Varga book by SJC then its very good source to learn to read the vargas. Navamsa is quite different in readings, forth bhava is for diseases, every planet in sixth is bad etc.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comaparajita_vidya napisał(a):

 

 

 

Pranam Gurujis,I find difficult to read the navamsas, is it the same way as rasi?All houses in navamsa have similar meaning as in rasi?.. like, 1st house lagna (body), 2nd house (speech, food)..etc etc.. then how is it different from rasi?Also i read in an old mail that trikona to navamsa is personal talent, and also trikona to AK in navamsa.. what is the difference in the two?-Yours sincerelyAparajita

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Rhoda  , Namaskar

 

Yes, you can use Mahavidya or check the planet in D1 and base the

remedies on dosha in D1.

 

Rahu in sixth shows problems from foreigners etc.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

Rhoda Reporter napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear rafal jee,

     does rahu in 6th of navamsha also read as bad?

and does the 4th house lord of navamsha show the remedies??

 

      best wishes

          

          rhoda

--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

wrote:

 

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Navamsa

 

Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 3:11 AM

 

 

 

kleem namah

narasimhaaya

Dear Aparajita  , Namaskar

 

If you can get the Varga book by SJC then its very good source to learn

to read the vargas. Navamsa is quite different in readings, forth bhava

is for diseases, every planet in sixth is bad etc.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

 

aparajita_vidya napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Pranam Gurujis,

 

I find difficult to read the navamsas, is it the same way as rasi?

All houses in navamsa have similar meaning as in rasi?.. like, 1st

house lagna (body), 2nd house (speech, food)..etc etc.. then how is it

different from rasi?

Also i read in an old mail that trikona to navamsa is personal talent,

and also trikona to AK in navamsa.. what is the difference in the two?

 

-Yours sincerely

Aparajita

[Guest guest]

Dear Rafal, What does planets in the 8th and 10th house from navamsa lagna signify? I guess trines from navamsa lagna is talent, and trines from karakamsa is soul level desire, but how do we know that abilities shown by planets in trines from karakamsa will manifest or not? -Regards RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah

narasimhaayaDear Rhoda , NamaskarYes, you can use Mahavidya or check the planet in D1 and base the remedies on dosha in D1.Rahu in sixth shows problems from foreigners etc.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comRhoda Reporter napisał(a): dear rafal jee,     does rahu in 6th of navamsha also read as bad? and does the 4th house lord of navamsha show the remedies??       best wishes                    rhoda--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Navamsa Date: Wednesday, May 14,

2008, 3:11 AM kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Aparajita , NamaskarIf you can get the Varga book by SJC then its very good source to learn to read the vargas. Navamsa is quite different in readings, forth bhava is for diseases, every planet in sixth is bad etc.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comaparajita_vidya napisał(a): Pranam Gurujis,I find difficult to read the navamsas, is it the same way as rasi?All houses in navamsa have similar meaning as in rasi?.. like, 1st house lagna (body), 2nd house (speech, food)..etc etc.. then how is it different from rasi?Also i read in an old mail that trikona to navamsa is personal talent, and also trikona to AK in navamsa.. what is the difference in the two?-Yours sincerelyAparajita "This above all: to thine own self be true!" -

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dear rafal jee,

could you please specify the D1 placements again.

i thought it is D9 for remedies,the 4th house of D9 i was told.

i am still uncertain .

for example if jupiter is lord of 4 in D9 what does it signify??

and when this jupiter is placed in navamsha lagna accompanied by sat® and aspected by mars.by the way nav lagna is sagitarius.

thanks again

rhoda--- On Wed, 5/14/08, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Navamsa Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 10:57 PM

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

What does planets in the 8th and 10th house from navamsa lagna signify?

 

I guess trines from navamsa lagna is talent, and trines from karakamsa is soul level desire, but how do we know that abilities shown by planets in trines from karakamsa will manifest or not?

 

-Regards

RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rhoda , NamaskarYes, you can use Mahavidya or check the planet in D1 and base the remedies on dosha in D1.Rahu in sixth shows problems from foreigners etc.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

comRhoda Reporter napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear rafal jee,

    does rahu in 6th of navamsha also read as bad?

and does the 4th house lord of navamsha show the remedies??

Â

     best wishes

                   rhoda--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] NavamsaWednesday, May 14, 2008, 3:11 AM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Aparajita , NamaskarIf you can get the Varga book by SJC then its very good source to learn to read the vargas. Navamsa is quite different in readings, forth bhava is for diseases, every planet in sixth is bad etc.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comaparajita_vidya napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Pranam Gurujis,I find difficult to read the navamsas, is it the same way as rasi?All houses in navamsa have similar meaning as in rasi?.. like, 1st house lagna (body), 2nd house (speech, food)..etc etc.. then how is it different from rasi?Also i read in an old mail that trikona to navamsa is personal talent, and also trikona to AK in navamsa.. what is the difference in the two?-Yours sincerelyAparajita

 

 

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Rhoda, Namaskar

 

We use all vargas for remedies, but these for lifetime are based mainly

on D1 and D9.

 

Forth house in D9 shows the weak points in the body, now you can take

the same lord to Rasi and judge his affliction and placement to specify

the problem, now based on the same yoga you can provide the remedy for

the native. The planet must be afflicted to give disease.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

Rhoda Reporter napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   dear rafal jee,

                    could you please specify the D1

placements again.

i thought it is D9 for remedies,the 4th house of D9 i was

told.

  i am still uncertain .

 for example if jupiter is lord of 4 in D9 what does it

signify??

and when this jupiter is placed in navamsha lagna

accompanied by sat® and aspected by mars.by the way nav lagna is

sagitarius.

             thanks again

                           rhoda

 

--- On Wed, 5/14/08, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

 

 

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Navamsa

 

Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 10:57 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

What does planets in the 8th and 10th house from navamsa

lagna signify?

 

I guess trines from navamsa lagna is talent, and trines

from karakamsa is soul level desire, but how do we know that abilities

shown by planets in trines from karakamsa will manifest or not?

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

 

 

kleem namah

narasimhaaya

Dear Rhoda  , Namaskar

 

Yes, you can use Mahavidya or check the planet in D1 and base the

remedies on dosha in D1.

 

Rahu in sixth shows problems from foreigners etc.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

Rhoda Reporter napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear rafal jee,

     does rahu in 6th of navamsha also

read as bad?

and does the 4th house lord of navamsha show

the remedies??

 

      best wishes

          

          rhoda

--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

wrote:

 

Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ wp.pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Navamsa

 

Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 3:11 AM

 

 

 

kleem

namah narasimhaaya

Dear Aparajita  , Namaskar

 

If you can get the Varga book by SJC then its very good source to learn

to read the vargas. Navamsa is quite different in readings, forth bhava

is for diseases, every planet in sixth is bad etc.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

 

aparajita_vidya napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Pranam Gurujis,

 

I find difficult to read the navamsas, is it the same way as rasi?

All houses in navamsa have similar meaning as in rasi?.. like, 1st

house lagna (body), 2nd house (speech, food)..etc etc.. then how is it

different from rasi?

Also i read in an old mail that trikona to navamsa is personal talent,

and also trikona to AK in navamsa.. what is the difference in the two?

 

-Yours sincerely

Aparajita

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet

 

 

 

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dear rafal jee,

thank you for clarifying the issue.

best regards

rhoda--- On Thu, 5/15/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Navamsa Date: Thursday, May 15, 2008, 3:06 PM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rhoda, NamaskarWe use all vargas for remedies, but these for lifetime are based mainly on D1 and D9. Forth house in D9 shows the weak points in the body, now you can take the same lord to Rasi and judge his affliction and placement to specify the problem, now based on the same yoga you can provide the remedy for the native. The planet must be afflicted to give disease.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa.

com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comRhoda Reporter napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear rafal jee,

could you please specify the D1 placements again.

i thought it is D9 for remedies,the 4th house of D9 i was told.

i am still uncertain .

for example if jupiter is lord of 4 in D9 what does it signify??

and when this jupiter is placed in navamsha lagna accompanied by sat® and aspected by mars.by the way nav lagna is sagitarius.

thanks again

rhoda--- On Wed, 5/14/08, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] NavamsaWednesday, May 14, 2008, 10:57 PM

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

What does planets in the 8th and 10th house from navamsa lagna signify?

 

I guess trines from navamsa lagna is talent, and trines from karakamsa is soul level desire, but how do we know that abilities shown by planets in trines from karakamsa will manifest or not?

 

-Regards

RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rhoda , NamaskarYes, you can use Mahavidya or check the planet in D1 and base the remedies on dosha in D1.Rahu in sixth shows problems from foreigners etc.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

comRhoda Reporter napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear rafal jee,

    does rahu in 6th of navamsha also read as bad?

and does the 4th house lord of navamsha show the remedies??

Â

     best wishes

                   rhoda--- On Wed, 5/14/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] NavamsaWednesday, May 14, 2008, 3:11 AM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Aparajita , NamaskarIf you can get the Varga book by SJC then its very good source to learn to read the vargas. Navamsa is quite different in readings, forth bhava is for diseases, every planet in sixth is bad etc.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comaparajita_vidya napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Pranam Gurujis,I find difficult to read the navamsas, is it the same way as rasi?All houses in navamsa have similar meaning as in rasi?.. like, 1st house lagna (body), 2nd house (speech, food)..etc etc.. then how is it different from rasi?Also i read in an old mail that trikona to navamsa is personal talent, and also trikona to AK in navamsa.. what is the difference in the two?-Yours sincerelyAparajita

 

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Dear Gopu ji, That was a nice informative input. Keep it up. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:>> this has been sent by one of the members,am not sure from> which group. However I felt it will be addl inputs for studying navamsa.> apart from the information given below, I find Sri B. V.Raman in his book > on predictive astrology takes into consideration of planetary aspects even in amsa charts.> good wishes,> k.gopu> > > Navamsa" (Navmansh, Navansh, Navamsha, Ninth Harmonic) literally means> "Ninth Division". Vedic Astrologers have always given a great deal of> importance to the Navamsa chart. The Navamsa chart is treated as the> primary basis along with Rasi chart, for judging a planet's strength.> Kalyana Varma in Saravali, Mantreswara in Phaladeepika, Baidyanath Dixit> in Jatak Parijat, Varahamihira in Brihat Jatak, Parashar in Brihat> Parashar Hora Shastra, all refer to the importance of Navamsa in chart> analysis. Even a relatively recent astrologer like the late B.V. Raman> states that "the strength of a planet should be judged after a careful> study of its disposition in Rasi and Navamsa".> > Why is the Navamsa so important? Well, the 9th house in any horoscope is> considered the most auspicious house, its lord is considered the> greatest benefic to a chart. The 9th is the house of fortune, of luck,> and of Dharma. A strong 9th house can often go a long way in countering> the other malefic aspects in a horoscope. The house whose lord is placed> in 9th house usually prospers. The Navamsa is therefore the "fortune"> chart. It can make or break your luck. A strong Rasi chart has to be> backed by a strong Navamsa, or it may not live up to its potential. The> Rasi chart is like a radio. A strong Navamsa is like a strong signal,> which ensures that you hear your favourite station. A weak Navamsa is> like a weak signal, even if your radio is of excellent make, you can't> hear anything!> > The Rasi chart is your physical existence, the circumstances that you> live in, the things that you do. The Moon chart is your mental world,> how you see things and how you react. The Navamsa is the hidden force,> the invisible hand of destiny that decides what the result of your> efforts will be.> > Reading a Navamsa Chart> > There are some simple rules for judging the strength of a planet using> Navamsa.> > 1. "Vargottama" is the division where the planet is in the same sign in> Rasi and Navamsa. Such a planet is extremely powerful to give results;> its Dasa will most definitely be eventful. ( A lot of astrologers simply> look at the Avastha of a planet and deem it weak. Sun in infancy in> Aries when Vargottama is extremely powerful, I will not call it weak. )> > 2. A planet in its exaltation or own sign in Navamsa is to be> considered strong, and usually gives good results pertaining to its> lordship or Karaka signification. A planet in its debilitation in> Navamsa is weak, unless that is offset by Neechbhanga.> > 3. A planet involved in exchange of signs (Parivartana) in the Navamsa> should be considered strong.> > 4. The lord of a house, whether in Rasi or Navamsa, conjunct or> aspected by a Karaka in the Navamsa gives good results. For e.g., If the> 7th lord of the Rasi or Navamsa is conjunct Venus, it gives good results> pertaining to spouse.> > 5. Drishti ascribed to Jupiter (5,7,9), Mars (4,7,8) and Saturn> (3,7,10) is also to be considered for the Navamsa chart.> > 6. Affliction to a planet by the Nodes in the Navamsa gives peculiar> or warped results. For e.g.., Jupiter afflicted by Rahu in the Navamsa> may not necessarily mean harm to children; it could indicate some> problems in the relationship or simply an indifferent attitude towards> them.> > 7. The Navamsa is *the* chart for marriage and spouse. It is the best> indicator of how a person's marital life will turn out to be. A malefic> in 7th in Rasi is bad, but in Navamsa it is worse. Afflictions to 7th> lord or Venus in the Navamsa chart are bad for marriage; this applies> irrespective of the said planets' disposition in Rasi.> > 8. For planets that are not in their own or exaltation Navamsas; the> position, strength and Rasi lordship of the Navamsa dispositor is a> major influence. The planet acquires the "flavour" of its Navamsa> disposition. For e.g., 10th lord in Mercury-ruled Navamsa could indicate> a career in communications or accountancy. 10th lord in Mars-ruled> Navamsa could mean a career in surgery, or the army, or engineering.> > 9. The planets that are in conjunction or opposition in Navamsa should> be given priority while predicting results. For e.g., Consider the> following position: Mars opposite Venus in Navamsa, aspected by Saturn> via 10th Drishti. Here the Venus opposition is more important than the> Saturn aspect. Indicates a sibling (since Mars is Karaka for siblings),> female, with artistic inclinations (significations of Venus).> > Some Observations> > 1. Mars conjunct Rahu or Ketu in Mercury's Navamsa gives skin or stomach> problems.> > 2. Venus conjunct Rahu or Ketu in Navamsa indicates marriage to a person> outside of the native's community. Also gives problems in relationships.> > 3. Saturn conjunct Moon in Navamsa indicates stinginess, or an obsession> with money.> > 4. Moon and Mars conjunct in Navamsa indicate gynaecological problems in> women and blood-related problems in men. This is especially true when> the conjunction occurs in Cancer or Scorpio.> > 5. Venus, though Vargottama in Jyeshtha, can still give relationship> problems.> > 6. Jupiter in exaltation or own sign in Navamsa usually gives a sound> financial position to the native, especially as age increases.> > 7. Saturn in Leo Navamsa is almost always bad, except when Vargottama.> > 8. Natives with Sun in Aries Navamsa go bald sooner than most people.> They also tend to have large foreheads.> > Mars in Venus Navamsa gives a taste for the good life. If afflicted,> will give vices. Venus in Mars Navamsa gives an aggressive, emotional> outlook in relationships. A Mars-Venus exchange in Navamsa could> indicate failure of marriage, or, a love-interest not leading to> marriage. It could also indicate unfaithfulness or a multiplicity of> relationships.> > Summing Up> > All these rules have to be applied without undermining the importance of> the Rasi chart. The results of planets with respect to their Nakshatra> placement and their lordship are paramount. The Navamsa should be looked> at as a tool that complements the Rasi, not as something that does away> with it! The Navamsa is a window to the Divine within us, it is the> measure of our fortune, our destiny>

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Dear K Gopu ji,//this has been sent by one of the members,am not sure from which group.// This is a writeup given on an astrology site: http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm

I think we should be intellectually more sincere. Quote the source wherever we know, or not post anything from anywhere, without knowing the source.If we know the source, we get the liberty of rating the information using our past experience about the source, if any.

Then of course, it is a matter of authenticity, which is most important. In the group also, we do not want garbage in garbage out, unless and until it is the garbage poured in by one of the members. (here I am not saying this write-up is garbage)

The cut and paste jobs on the internet are in any case leading to large scale piracy. We might be infringing on somebody's copyright and promoting piracy ourselves.There are a host of other issues and at least serious astrologers like us, in this serious group, should avoid such cross postings on astrological matters.

For non astrological matters and light readings, it is all right, but even then I would prefer if we quote the source. If we want to restore some past glory to this divine science, we are the ones who have to be serious, and become more responsible towards learning and imparting the knowledge in a right manner.

Hope you'll take it in the right spirit. It is in the interest of all who are sharing this forum.RegardsNeelam

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Sorry, forgot to mention, the article is by Kundalika Shastri.2008/8/4 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

Dear K Gopu ji,//this has been sent by one of the members,am not sure from which group.//

This is a writeup given on an astrology site: http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm

I think we should be intellectually more sincere. Quote the source wherever we know, or not post anything from anywhere, without knowing the source.If we know the source, we get the liberty of rating the information using our past experience about the source, if any.

Then of course, it is a matter of authenticity, which is most important. In the group also, we do not want garbage in garbage out, unless and until it is the garbage poured in by one of the members. (here I am not saying this write-up is garbage)

The cut and paste jobs on the internet are in any case leading to large scale piracy. We might be infringing on somebody's copyright and promoting piracy ourselves.There are a host of other issues and at least serious astrologers like us, in this serious group, should avoid such cross postings on astrological matters.

For non astrological matters and light readings, it is all right, but even then I would prefer if we quote the source. If we want to restore some past glory to this divine science, we are the ones who have to be serious, and become more responsible towards learning and imparting the knowledge in a right manner.

Hope you'll take it in the right spirit. It is in the interest of all who are sharing this forum.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

dear Neelamji,

I have mentioned while sending the contents that i dont have the source, however

u have found out the source. Normally as i get such inputs I just save it on a

notepad

without giving much of importance to know the source.

Hitherto before sending the mail I cheked the navamsa traits with the charts of

my sons and daughter in law and i found out some of the traits mentioned were

matching. It may not be the same for many of the charts. I dont do any cut and

paste buisness as u have mentioned because I dont have to.

 My intention was only sharing the knowledge in this group. I am not well versed

in this subject as  u people are because i have taken up this subject just 4yrs

back so late in my age ie just 2yrs prior to my retirement. I  always salute 

for the knowledge which urself, sreenadhji, sunilji,bhaskarji and sreeramji have

on this vast subject.  I recd a mail from Shrenadji appreciating the inputs i

had given on the above topic whereas I am bit surprised

to receive a different type of mail from ur end.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

Re: navamsa

 

Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:01 PM

 

 

Dear K Gopu ji,

 

//this has been sent by one of the members,am not sure from which group.//

 

This is a writeup given on an astrology site:

http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm

 

I think we should be intellectually more sincere. Quote the source wherever we

know, or not post anything from anywhere, without knowing the source.

If we know the source, we get the liberty of rating the information using our

past experience about the source, if any.

Then of course, it is a matter of authenticity, which is most important.

In the group also, we do not want garbage in garbage out, unless and until it is

the garbage poured in by one of the members. (here I am not saying this write-up

is garbage)

The cut and paste jobs on the internet are in any case leading to large scale

piracy. We might be infringing on somebody's copyright and promoting piracy

ourselves.

There are a host of other issues and at least serious astrologers like us, in

this serious group, should avoid such cross postings on astrological matters.

For non astrological matters and light readings, it is all right, but even then

I would prefer if we quote the source.

 

If we want to restore some past glory to this divine science, we are the ones

who have to be serious, and become more responsible towards learning and

imparting the knowledge in a right manner.

 

Hope you'll take it in the right spirit. It is in the interest of all who are

sharing this forum.

 

Regards

Neelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopuji,I had requested you to take my note in the right spirit. It was nothing against you, and I had given my reasons for why we should know the source.This article was good, hence the reaction, if you can understand.

Piracy is theft and that is it. At least the author deserves a line of credit for her hard work and we as responsible citizens and users of technology should take care of these things, as far as possible. If someone is sending you such copied material, you should ask them where it comes from. It has not happened, but tomorrow suppose the author writes a nasty mail in the forum and asks you that who gave you the permission to publish my article on your forum, what will you say? I do a lot of publishing work and I know what intellectual property rights are. Reading on internet is one thing, but downloading and publishing might become and offense. Either the source should be mentioned. if the material is copyright free; or the group should be directed to the source.

I understand this is our enthusiasm to share information, but being a little careful helps. Please don't get confused, what I am saying and what Sreenadh ji is saying are two entirely different things and both taken together will give you the answer.

My apologies if I have hurt you in any manner.RegardsNeelam2008/8/5 K Gopu <kgopu_24

 

 

 

 

 

dear Neelamji,

I have mentioned while sending the contents that i dont have the source, however

u have found out the source. Normally as i get such inputs I just save it on a notepad

without giving much of importance to know the source.

Hitherto before sending the mail I cheked the navamsa traits with the charts of my sons and daughter in law and i found out some of the traits mentioned were matching. It may not be the same for many of the charts. I dont do any cut and paste buisness as u have mentioned because I dont have to.

My intention was only sharing the knowledge in this group. I am not well versed in this subject as u people are because i have taken up this subject just 4yrs back so late in my age ie just 2yrs prior to my retirement. I always salute for the knowledge which urself, sreenadhji, sunilji,bhaskarji and sreeramji have on this vast subject. I recd a mail from Shrenadji appreciating the inputs i had given on the above topic whereas I am bit surprised

to receive a different type of mail from ur end.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

Re: navamsa

 

Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:01 PM

 

Dear K Gopu ji,

 

//this has been sent by one of the members,am not sure from which group.//

 

This is a writeup given on an astrology site:

http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm

 

I think we should be intellectually more sincere. Quote the source wherever we know, or not post anything from anywhere, without knowing the source.

If we know the source, we get the liberty of rating the information using our past experience about the source, if any.

Then of course, it is a matter of authenticity, which is most important.

In the group also, we do not want garbage in garbage out, unless and until it is the garbage poured in by one of the members. (here I am not saying this write-up is garbage)

The cut and paste jobs on the internet are in any case leading to large scale piracy. We might be infringing on somebody's copyright and promoting piracy ourselves.

There are a host of other issues and at least serious astrologers like us, in this serious group, should avoid such cross postings on astrological matters.

For non astrological matters and light readings, it is all right, but even then I would prefer if we quote the source.

 

If we want to restore some past glory to this divine science, we are the ones who have to be serious, and become more responsible towards learning and imparting the knowledge in a right manner.

 

Hope you'll take it in the right spirit. It is in the interest of all who are sharing this forum.

 

Regards

Neelam

[Guest guest]

dear neelamji,

thanks for explaining further. In future i will take adequate care to provide

the details.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu --- On Tue, 8/5/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: navamsa Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 9:36 AM

 

 

 

Dear Gopuji,I had requested you to take my note in the right spirit. It was nothing against you, and I had given my reasons for why we should know the source.This article was good, hence the reaction, if you can understand. Piracy is theft and that is it. At least the author deserves a line of credit for her hard work and we as responsible citizens and users of technology should take care of these things, as far as possible. If someone is sending you such copied material, you should ask them where it comes from. It has not happened, but tomorrow suppose the author writes a nasty mail in the forum and asks you that who gave you the permission to publish my article on your forum, what will you say? I do a lot of publishing work and I know what intellectual property rights are. Reading on internet is one thing, but downloading and publishing might become and offense. Either the source should be mentioned. if the

material is copyright free; or the group should be directed to the source. I understand this is our enthusiasm to share information, but being a little careful helps. Please don't get confused, what I am saying and what Sreenadh ji is saying are two entirely different things and both taken together will give you the answer.My apologies if I have hurt you in any manner.RegardsNeelam

2008/8/5 K Gopu <kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

 

 

 

 

 

dear Neelamji,I have mentioned while sending the contents that i dont have the source, howeveru have found out the source. Normally as i get such inputs I just save it on a notepadwithout giving much of importance to know the source.Hitherto before sending the mail I cheked the navamsa traits with the charts of my sons and daughter in law and i found out some of the traits mentioned were matching. It may not be the same for many of the charts. I dont do any cut and paste buisness as u have mentioned because I dont have to. My intention was only sharing the knowledge in this group. I am not well versed in this subject as u people are because i have taken up this subject just 4yrs back so late in my age ie just 2yrs prior to my retirement. I always salute for the knowledge which urself, sreenadhji, sunilji,bhaskarji and sreeramji have on this vast subject. I recd a mail from Shrenadji appreciating

the inputs i had given on the above topic whereas I am bit surprisedto receive a different type of mail from ur end. good wishes,k.gopu--- On Mon, 8/4/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] navamsaancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, August 4, 2008, 7:01 PM

 

 

Dear K Gopu ji,//this has been sent by one of the members,am not sure from which group.// This is a writeup given on an astrology site: http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htmI think we should be intellectually more sincere. Quote the source wherever we know, or not post anything from anywhere, without knowing the source.If we know the source, we get the liberty of rating the information using our past experience about the source, if any. Then of course, it is a matter of authenticity, which is most important. In the group also, we do not want garbage in garbage out, unless and until it is the garbage poured in by one of the members. (here I am not saying this write-up is garbage)The cut and paste jobs on the internet are in any case leading to large scale piracy. We might be infringing on somebody's copyright and promoting

piracy ourselves.There are a host of other issues and at least serious astrologers like us, in this serious group, should avoid such cross postings on astrological matters.For non astrological matters and light readings, it is all right, but even then I would prefer if we quote the source. If we want to restore some past glory to this divine science, we are the ones who have to be serious, and become more responsible towards learning and imparting the knowledge in a right manner.Hope you'll take it in the right spirit. It is in the interest of all who are sharing this forum.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji and Gopu ji,==>> what I am saying and what Sreenadh ji is saying are two entirely different things and both > taken together will give you the answer.<== Rightly said - I agree.Dear Gopu ji, Please take it lightly - Neelam ji was speaking in general, not specifically to you. The article was certainly good and therefore thanks for providing it. It is always good to mention the source, (or try to search and find the source) and give due credit to the auther. Neelam ji is certainly right in that context. Since Gopu ji is correct due to his sincere intention and Neelam ji should be thanked for providing correct ethical guidance - I believe we can leave this issue here and move on.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Gopuji,> > I had requested you to take my note in the right spirit. It was nothing> against you, and I had given my reasons for why we should know the source.> This article was good, hence the reaction, if you can understand.> > Piracy is theft and that is it. At least the author deserves a line of> credit for her hard work and we as responsible citizens and users of> technology should take care of these things, as far as possible. If someone> is sending you such copied material, you should ask them where it comes> from. It has not happened, but tomorrow suppose the author writes a nasty> mail in the forum and asks you that who gave you the permission to publish> my article on your forum, what will you say? I do a lot of publishing work> and I know what intellectual property rights are. Reading on internet is one> thing, but downloading and publishing might become and offense. Either the> source should be mentioned. if the material is copyright free; or the group> should be directed to the source.> > I understand this is our enthusiasm to share information, but being a little> careful helps.> Please don't get confused, what I am saying and what Sreenadh ji is saying> are two entirely different things and both taken together will give you the> answer.> > My apologies if I have hurt you in any manner.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > > 2008/8/5 K Gopu kgopu_24 > > dear Neelamji,> > I have mentioned while sending the contents that i dont have the source,> > however> > u have found out the source. Normally as i get such inputs I just save it> > on a notepad> > without giving much of importance to know the source.> > Hitherto before sending the mail I cheked the navamsa traits with the> > charts of my sons and daughter in law and i found out some of the traits> > mentioned were matching. It may not be the same for many of the charts. I> > dont do any cut and paste buisness as u have mentioned because I dont have> > to.> > My intention was only sharing the knowledge in this group. I am not well> > versed in this subject as u people are because i have taken up this subject> > just 4yrs back so late in my age ie just 2yrs prior to my retirement. I> > always salute for the knowledge which urself, sreenadhji, sunilji,bhaskarji> > and sreeramji have on this vast subject. I recd a mail from Shrenadji> > appreciating the inputs i had given on the above topic whereas I am bit> > surprised> > to receive a different type of mail from ur end.> >> > good wishes,> > k.gopu> > --- On Mon, 8/4/08, neelam gupta neelamgupta07<neelamgupta07%40gmail.com>>> > wrote:> >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 <neelamgupta07%40gmail.com>>> > Re: navamsa> > <%40>> > Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:01 PM> >> >> > Dear K Gopu ji,> >> > //this has been sent by one of the members,am not sure from which group.//> >> > This is a writeup given on an astrology site:> > http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm> >> > I think we should be intellectually more sincere. Quote the source wherever> > we know, or not post anything from anywhere, without knowing the source.> > If we know the source, we get the liberty of rating the information using> > our past experience about the source, if any.> > Then of course, it is a matter of authenticity, which is most important.> > In the group also, we do not want garbage in garbage out, unless and until> > it is the garbage poured in by one of the members. (here I am not saying> > this write-up is garbage)> > The cut and paste jobs on the internet are in any case leading to large> > scale piracy. We might be infringing on somebody's copyright and promoting> > piracy ourselves.> > There are a host of other issues and at least serious astrologers like us,> > in this serious group, should avoid such cross postings on astrological> > matters.> > For non astrological matters and light readings, it is all right, but even> > then I would prefer if we quote the source.> >> > If we want to restore some past glory to this divine science, we are the> > ones who have to be serious, and become more responsible towards learning> > and imparting the knowledge in a right manner.> >> > Hope you'll take it in the right spirit. It is in the interest of all who> > are sharing this forum.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

No issues Gopu ji.

 

Please move on with your quest and pursuit for good astrological resources,

and share them with the group to enhance our knowledge base.

 

regards

Neelam

 

 

 

 

2008/8/5 K Gopu <kgopu_24

 

> dear neelamji,

> thanks for explaining further. In future i will take adequate care to

> provide

> the details.

>

> good wishes,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

> --- On *Tue, 8/5/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07* wrote:

>

> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

> Re: Re: navamsa

>

> Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 9:36 AM

>

>

> Dear Gopuji,

>

> I had requested you to take my note in the right spirit. It was nothing

> against you, and I had given my reasons for why we should know the source.

> This article was good, hence the reaction, if you can understand.

>

> Piracy is theft and that is it. At least the author deserves a line of

> credit for her hard work and we as responsible citizens and users of

> technology should take care of these things, as far as possible. If someone

> is sending you such copied material, you should ask them where it comes

> from. It has not happened, but tomorrow suppose the author writes a nasty

> mail in the forum and asks you that who gave you the permission to publish

> my article on your forum, what will you say? I do a lot of publishing work

> and I know what intellectual property rights are. Reading on internet is one

> thing, but downloading and publishing might become and offense. Either the

> source should be mentioned. if the material is copyright free; or the group

> should be directed to the source.

>

> I understand this is our enthusiasm to share information, but being a

> little careful helps.

> Please don't get confused, what I am saying and what Sreenadh ji is saying

> are two entirely different things and both taken together will give you the

> answer.

>

> My apologies if I have hurt you in any manner.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

>

>

> 2008/8/5 K Gopu <kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk <kgopu_24>

>

>> dear Neelamji,

>> I have mentioned while sending the contents that i dont have the source,

>> however

>> u have found out the source. Normally as i get such inputs I just save it

>> on a notepad

>> without giving much of importance to know the source.

>> Hitherto before sending the mail I cheked the navamsa traits with the

>> charts of my sons and daughter in law and i found out some of the traits

>> mentioned were matching. It may not be the same for many of the charts. I

>> dont do any cut and paste buisness as u have mentioned because I dont have

>> to.

>> My intention was only sharing the knowledge in this group. I am not well

>> versed in this subject as u people are because i have taken up this subject

>> just 4yrs back so late in my age ie just 2yrs prior to my retirement. I

>> always salute for the knowledge which urself, sreenadhji, sunilji,bhaskarji

>> and sreeramji have on this vast subject. I recd a mail from Shrenadji

>> appreciating the inputs i had given on the above topic whereas I am bit

>> surprised

>> to receive a different type of mail from ur end.

>>

>> good wishes,

>> k.gopu

>> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@

gmail.com<neelamgupta07%40gmail.com>>

>> wrote:

>>

>> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com <neelamgupta07%40gmail.com>>

>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] navamsa

>> ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com<%40>

>> Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:01 PM

>>

>>

>> Dear K Gopu ji,

>>

>> //this has been sent by one of the members,am not sure from which group.//

>>

>>

>> This is a writeup given on an astrology site:

>> http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm

>>

>> I think we should be intellectually more sincere. Quote the source

>> wherever we know, or not post anything from anywhere, without knowing the

>> source.

>> If we know the source, we get the liberty of rating the information using

>> our past experience about the source, if any.

>> Then of course, it is a matter of authenticity, which is most important.

>> In the group also, we do not want garbage in garbage out, unless and until

>> it is the garbage poured in by one of the members. (here I am not saying

>> this write-up is garbage)

>> The cut and paste jobs on the internet are in any case leading to large

>> scale piracy. We might be infringing on somebody's copyright and promoting

>> piracy ourselves.

>> There are a host of other issues and at least serious astrologers like us,

>> in this serious group, should avoid such cross postings on astrological

>> matters.

>> For non astrological matters and light readings, it is all right, but even

>> then I would prefer if we quote the source.

>>

>> If we want to restore some past glory to this divine science, we are the

>> ones who have to be serious, and become more responsible towards learning

>> and imparting the knowledge in a right manner.

>>

>> Hope you'll take it in the right spirit. It is in the interest of all who

>> are sharing this forum.

>>

>> Regards

>> Neelam

>>

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What is the use of navamsa chart,how should be the predictions given

with navamsa chart?

[Guest guest]

THE NATAL CHART SHOWS THAT THE GIRL IS SMART, BEAUTIFUL AND VERY DYNAMIC, BUT WHERE SHE WILL GO AND WHAT SHE WILL DO IN LIFE, IS SHOWN BY THE NAVAMSA CHART.

Convert this and translate the symbolics to every human being on earth with a Horoscope, and this will show the importance of the Navamsha chart.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "smith_ak1971" <anilsmi wrote:>> , "sreeram srinivas"> sreeram64@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Members,> > > > Would request members to share their simplistic views on why we have to> > look into vargas apart from natal chart, irrespective of the method of> > looking at Vargas as a inherent part of natal chart or as a separate> > chart.> > > > With regards,> > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> >> > dear all,> > am just giving a go..> > We look at vargas, to look at the strength of planets> to see the particular field of life in more detail and confirm> whatever is told in the rashi> to see more about relations between planets> > I think we need examples on these and more points.> > With regards,> smitha>

[Guest guest]

Namaste,A Tamil adage goes like this"raasi irukku arasu aalvathRku aanaal amsam veenNtumae aatchi cheyya", meaning Raasi sometimes explains external grace but amsa always narrates accomplishments.Experienced Astrologer observes predictable,by comparative study from various amsa by sieving through Raasi .With regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear Guptaji and Bhagavathi ji

 

Guptaji thanks for the Tamil quote on navamsa and also i appreciate bhagavathi ji for giving us correct trnslations on those quote ,correct meaning giv us utility on Navamsa and its importance in delination

 

rgrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> Dear Guptaji,> > Thank you for the tamil quote. It would really help if you translate > the saying as it is, without changing the contents for the benefit of > everyone. It took some time for me to figure out. I am rewriting it > as follows:> > Rasi irukku arasu aalvatharku, anaal amsam vendume aatchi cheyya> > Rasi is there for the king to occupy the throne, but the navamsa is > needed for him to rule> > Regards,> > bhagavathi> > > , Sathiyanarayana > Gupta gupta816@ wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > A Tamil adage goes like this"raasi irukku arasu aalvathRku aanaal > amsam veenNtumae aatchi cheyya", meaning Raasi sometimes explains > external grace but amsa always narrates accomplishments.> > Experienced Astrologer observes predictable,by comparative study > from various amsa by sieving through Raasi .> > > > With regards,> > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > THE NATAL CHART SHOWS THAT THE GIRL IS SMART, BEAUTIFUL AND VERY > DYNAMIC, BUT WHERE SHE WILL GO AND WHAT SHE WILL DO IN LIFE, IS SHOWN > BY THE NAVAMSA CHART. > > Convert this and translate the symbolics to every human being on > earth with a Horoscope, and this will show the importance of the > Navamsha chart.> > regards,> > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , "smith_ak1971" > <anilsmi@> wrote:> > >> > > , "sreeram > srinivas"> > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > Would request members to share their simplistic views on why we > have to> > > > look into vargas apart from natal chart, irrespective of the > method of> > > > looking at Vargas as a inherent part of natal chart or as a > separate> > > > chart.> > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > >> > > > > > dear all,> > > > > > am just giving a go..> > > > > > We look at vargas, to look at the strength of planets> > > to see the particular field of life in more detail and confirm> > > whatever is told in the rashi> > > to see more about relations between planets> > > > > > I think we need examples on these and more points.> > > > > > With regards,> > > smitha> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Namaste,Your transliteration conveys what I meant;however I make my earnest attempt in translating the adage in verbatim(to the extant possible) as required by you. Raasi(rasi) irukku (may bestow)arasu aalvathRku(powers to rein) aanaal (but)amsam( amsa phalam) veenNtumae( is required for) aatchi cheyya ( to rein) bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: Dear Guptaji, Thank you for

the tamil quote. It would really help if you translate the saying as it is, without changing the contents for the benefit of everyone. It took some time for me to figure out. I am rewriting it as follows: Rasi irukku arasu aalvatharku, anaal amsam vendume aatchi cheyya Rasi is there for the king to occupy the throne, but the navamsa is needed for him to rule Regards, bhagavathi

[Guest guest]

Dear Sathiyanarayana ji, ==>> A Tamil adage goes like this"raasi irukku arasu aalvathRku aanaal

amsam veenNtumae aatchi cheyya", meaning Raasi sometimes explains

external grace but amsa always narrates accomplishments.> Experienced Astrologer observes predictable,by comparative study from various amsa by sieving through Raasi .<== Well said! There is a Sanskrit quote provided by Mihira which reads - "Amsakat Sukshma phalam vadet" (Subtle details of the results should be identified and understood by the use of Vargas). Natal chart indicate the general results and Vargas provide more details related to the same, providing clarity to the said result. For example Moon in Scorpio can indicate a well and water, but if the navamsa of Moon is in Capricorn it indicates that the water is bit impure (salty, with too much mud or iron content, with a bad smell etc). Aries Lagna (D1) can indicate a thief, but if in Aries 2nd hora (D2) then that thief has a wavering nature/mind and will commit numerous mistakes (Says Saravali) - this is another example. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote:>> Namaste,> > A Tamil adage goes like this"raasi irukku arasu aalvathRku aanaal amsam veenNtumae aatchi cheyya", meaning Raasi sometimes explains external grace but amsa always narrates accomplishments.> Experienced Astrologer observes predictable,by comparative study from various amsa by sieving through Raasi .> > With regards,> D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> > Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote: > THE NATAL CHART SHOWS THAT THE GIRL IS SMART, BEAUTIFUL AND VERY DYNAMIC, BUT WHERE SHE WILL GO AND WHAT SHE WILL DO IN LIFE, IS SHOWN BY THE NAVAMSA CHART. > Convert this and translate the symbolics to every human being on earth with a Horoscope, and this will show the importance of the Navamsha chart.> regards,> Bhaskar. > > > , "smith_ak1971" anilsmi@ wrote:> >> > , "sreeram srinivas"> > sreeram64@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > Would request members to share their simplistic views on why we have to> > > look into vargas apart from natal chart, irrespective of the method of> > > looking at Vargas as a inherent part of natal chart or as a separate> > > chart.> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > >> > > > dear all,> > > > am just giving a go..> > > > We look at vargas, to look at the strength of planets> > to see the particular field of life in more detail and confirm> > whatever is told in the rashi> > to see more about relations between planets> > > > I think we need examples on these and more points.> > > > With regards,> > smitha> >>

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Dear Satyanarayam ji, Thanks again for that effort!==> Raasi(rasi) irukku (may bestow)arasu aalvathRku(powers to rein) aanaal

(but)amsam( amsa phalam) veenNtumae( is required for) aatchi cheyya (

to rein)<==Raasi irukku arasu aalvathRku, aanaal amsam veenNtumae aatchi cheyya

[sign may bestow powers to rein, but varga result is required to rein] Means in a horoscope - if the planets are well placed (e.g. 4 planets in own house or exaltation) the native will have the power to rein (has the power/qualities to become a king), but if the navamsa of some of those planets are in debilitation - the native will never rein! (will never become a king). A king without a kingdom - interesting! Love and regards,Sreenadh

, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote:>> Namaste,> Your transliteration conveys what I meant;however I make my earnest attempt in translating the adage in verbatim(to the extant possible) as required by you.> > Raasi(rasi) irukku (may bestow)arasu aalvathRku(powers to rein) aanaal (but)amsam( amsa phalam) veenNtumae( is required for) aatchi cheyya ( to rein)> > > bhagavathi_hariharan bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: Dear Guptaji,> > Thank you for the tamil quote. It would really help if you translate > the saying as it is, without changing the contents for the benefit of > everyone. It took some time for me to figure out. I am rewriting it > as follows:> > Rasi irukku arasu aalvatharku, anaal amsam vendume aatchi cheyya> > Rasi is there for the king to occupy the throne, but the navamsa is > needed for him to rule> > Regards,> > bhagavathi> > , Sathiyanarayana > Gupta gupta816@ wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > A Tamil adage goes like this"raasi irukku arasu aalvathRku aanaal > amsam veenNtumae aatchi cheyya", meaning Raasi sometimes explains > external grace but amsa always narrates accomplishments.> > Experienced Astrologer observes predictable,by comparative study > from various amsa by sieving through Raasi .> > > > With regards,> > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > THE NATAL CHART SHOWS THAT THE GIRL IS SMART, BEAUTIFUL AND VERY > DYNAMIC, BUT WHERE SHE WILL GO AND WHAT SHE WILL DO IN LIFE, IS SHOWN > BY THE NAVAMSA CHART. > > Convert this and translate the symbolics to every human being on > earth with a Horoscope, and this will show the importance of the > Navamsha chart.> > regards,> > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , "smith_ak1971" > <anilsmi@> wrote:> > >> > > , "sreeram > srinivas"> > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > Would request members to share their simplistic views on why we > have to> > > > look into vargas apart from natal chart, irrespective of the > method of> > > > looking at Vargas as a inherent part of natal chart or as a > separate> > > > chart.> > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > >> > > > > > dear all,> > > > > > am just giving a go..> > > > > > We look at vargas, to look at the strength of planets> > > to see the particular field of life in more detail and confirm> > > whatever is told in the rashi> > > to see more about relations between planets> > > > > > I think we need examples on these and more points.> > > > > > With regards,> > > smitha> > >> >>