Bachelor Brahmin Omen

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Hare ramakrishna,

dear sun_el.

Its not bachelor brahmin or married brahmin ,it says a single brahmin (one brahmin) is bad when u starts a journey in the begining time or starting time of journey ,they come across its bad ,u will not achieve the results and same sastra says siting of prostitutes in good .

Even i find people has this belief when the traders if their the first sale is to if a prostitute or some one with a good hand ( i dont know the translation ) says to bring good results .

all this may happened because brahmins used to liv by dakshina which totaly depends on the mercy of people .

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

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, "sun_el" <sun_el wrote:>> > "A bachelor Brahmin coming across your path is one of the worst > Omens and people generally return without proceeding further!!"> > Is this so? Should bachelor Brahmin coming across your path be > considered bad? I did not knew this one?> > But why??? What bad it gives??? And if a married Brahmin come than???> > > > > > > , S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote:> >> > There are umpteen phenomena observed on this planet that cannot be > explained by Science. > > > > An example is a 14 year old boy in a village school in U.P., who > never had any English education -even the alphabets- and was totally > educated in Hindi, cut off from main stream due to inaccessibility > of the village, suddenly started speaking with a typical American > accent on highly specialised Scientific subjects, the theories and > how to proceed research on the topic, he wanted to continue.> > > > Baffled, his parents took him to a mental asylum, but his > teacher and Principal took him to some Scientists and found that he > had imbibed the soul of a U.S. Scientist doing research on the > subject, and was speaking fluently on neurons and so on!!> > > > The IndianTV Channels showed repeated interviews with this > amazing pheomena. Would anyone explain scientifically these > happenings?> > > > Similarly, so many Omens observed as Cat crossing the path when > starting for a travel or assignment, A Cow coming in the front and > so many others are taken as an Omen, good or bad. A bachelor Brahmin > coming across your path is one of the worst Omens and people > generally return without proceeding further!!> > > > > > Nitin Patil enpy91@ wrote:> > Folks, is this for real or just a superstition? I > don't mean to challenge anyone's intelligence but just seeking the > answer. Is there a scientific reason for this (or for that matter > contradictory) view?> > > > I tend to believe that Vedic Astrology has scientific foundation > and hence its predictions hold some water, but lizard falling on > head.... if someone can, please enlighten me with the scientific > reasoning....> > > > And oh... no flames please...> > > > suchitra_kamath suchitra_kamath@ wrote:> > Hi,> > > > From personal experience I know it is not a good omen at > all.Please > > seek remedy.> > > > Sorry to have disturbed you.> > > > Thanks> > Suchitra> > > > , <swami@> wrote:> > >> > > It isa good omen, one can get elaveted position.> > > However in support Birth data is incomplete.> > > In case of event place is not quoted.> > > with best wishes.> > > - > > > Acharya Chaitanya > > > > > > Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:09 PM> > > House lizard falling on head> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > I read the mail on falling lizard and may you please let me > > know if house lizard falls on the head of a male entering an > office > > of a Temple on June 1 2007 evening around 6.25pm after evening > > Arathi.> > > > > > born on 29 june 1968> > > > > > .> > > hHANNN_._,___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------> > -----------> > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > > who knows.> > > Answers - Check it out.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > FareChase. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see > what's on, when.> >>

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I still feel that the term "Single Brahmin" refers to an unmarried Bachelor Brahmin" and not a married Brahmin approaching without his spouse by his side! "Ottabrahmanan" in Malayalam means a Brahmin who is single, obviously meaning unmarried sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishna, dear sun_el. Its not bachelor

brahmin or married brahmin ,it says a single brahmin (one brahmin) is bad when u starts a journey in the begining time or starting time of journey ,they come across its bad ,u will not achieve the results and same sastra says siting of prostitutes in good . Even i find people has this belief when the traders if their the first sale is to if a prostitute or some one with a good hand ( i dont know the translation ) says to bring good results . all this may happened because brahmins used to liv by dakshina which totaly depends on the mercy of people . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. pt.sunilnair (professional consultations) --- In

, "sun_el" <sun_el wrote:>> > "A bachelor Brahmin coming across your path is one of the worst > Omens and people generally return without proceeding further!!"> > Is this so? Should bachelor Brahmin coming across your path be > considered bad? I did not knew this one?> > But why??? What bad it gives??? And if a married Brahmin come than???> > > > > > > , S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote:> >> > There are umpteen phenomena observed on this planet that cannot be > explained by Science. > > > > An example is a 14 year old boy in a village school in U.P., who > never had any English education -even the alphabets- and was totally > educated in Hindi, cut off from main stream due to inaccessibility > of the village,

suddenly started speaking with a typical American > accent on highly specialised Scientific subjects, the theories and > how to proceed research on the topic, he wanted to continue.> > > > Baffled, his parents took him to a mental asylum, but his > teacher and Principal took him to some Scientists and found that he > had imbibed the soul of a U.S. Scientist doing research on the > subject, and was speaking fluently on neurons and so on!!> > > > The IndianTV Channels showed repeated interviews with this > amazing pheomena. Would anyone explain scientifically these > happenings?> > > > Similarly, so many Omens observed as Cat crossing the path when > starting for a travel or assignment, A Cow coming in the front and > so many others are taken as an Omen, good or bad. A bachelor Brahmin > coming across your path is one of the worst Omens and people

> generally return without proceeding further!!> > > > > > Nitin Patil enpy91@ wrote:> > Folks, is this for real or just a superstition? I > don't mean to challenge anyone's intelligence but just seeking the > answer. Is there a scientific reason for this (or for that matter > contradictory) view?> > > > I tend to believe that Vedic Astrology has scientific foundation > and hence its predictions hold some water, but lizard falling on > head.... if someone can, please enlighten me with the scientific > reasoning....> > > > And oh... no flames please...> > > > suchitra_kamath suchitra_kamath@ wrote:> > Hi,> > > > From personal experience I know it is not a good omen at > all.Please > > seek remedy.> > > > Sorry to have disturbed you.> > >

> Thanks> > Suchitra> > > > , <swami@> wrote:> > >> > > It isa good omen, one can get elaveted position.> > > However in support Birth data is incomplete.> > > In case of event place is not quoted.> > > with best wishes.> > > - > > > Acharya Chaitanya > > > > > > Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:09 PM> > > House lizard falling on head> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > I read the mail on falling lizard and may you please let me > > know if house lizard falls on the head of a male entering an > office > > of a

Temple on June 1 2007 evening around 6.25pm after evening > > Arathi.> > > > > > born on 29 june 1968> > > > > > .> > > hHANNN_._,___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------> > -----------> > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > > who knows.> > > Answers - Check it out.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > FareChase. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sick sense of humor?

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Hare rama krishna,

dear Kumarji,

Yes its is single brahmin -means one brahmin ,pls refer any of the texts deals with shakuna ,prashna maarga,prasna reethi or prashna anushtana padhathi (main kerala classics deals with prashna) it clearely says so ,evn they used other termes for brahmachari,sanyasi ,and those who begging ,prasna reethi kara is non brahmin and he refers thampran (yembran-a word used by lower casts to adress brahmins in cast driven society).And also in explanations by punnaserri neelakanta sharma and all ,it says vipra dwayam is not bad (means 2 brahmin) so its understood beyond doubt that ottabrahmin is a brahmin who comes singly on your way during the begining of an important journey .But this is not applicable to persons who lives near brahmin settlements as there will be always brahmins around.

And Your reference to chattampi swamikal as guru of sri narayan guru is totaly wrong as they both were travelling together in serch knowledge and their search for truth ,god and knowledge and chattampi swamikal is 2 years elder to sri narayana guru and both tried to be sisysa of sri thycattu ayyavu a yoga expert (who could flaot in air (akaash gamana vidya) and done performance in frnt of resident collector --a british man and he was also working as govt servant with central secretariate in trivandrum )and who possess raasa vidya (ancient chemical preparations which deals with making of gold and medicines related to longitivity mainly devlped by saint agastya and followers to repair any damage caused by wrong yoga practises or wrong life style) and some time together with his residence ,do u think a guru and sisya will do like that ,offcourse sri narayan guru always address him as guru,but not in practical sense.Also please dont refer any sanyasi by his cast ,offcourse people has to born in some cast in india .

 

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, S kumar <kumar_8134 wrote:>> I still feel that the term "Single Brahmin" refers to an unmarried Bachelor Brahmin" and not a married Brahmin approaching without his spouse by his side!> "Ottabrahmanan" in Malayalam means a Brahmin who is single, obviously meaning unmarried > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> Hare ramakrishna,> dear sun_el.> Its not bachelor brahmin or married brahmin ,it says a single brahmin (one brahmin) is bad when u starts a journey in the begining time or starting time of journey ,they come across its bad ,u will not achieve the results and same sastra says siting of prostitutes in good .> Even i find people has this belief when the traders if their the first sale is to if a prostitute or some one with a good hand ( i dont know the translation ) says to bring good results .> all this may happened because brahmins used to liv by dakshina which totaly depends on the mercy of people .> regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> pt.sunilnair (professional consultations)> > , "sun_el" sun_el@ wrote:> >> > > > "A bachelor Brahmin coming across your path is one of the worst > > Omens and people generally return without proceeding further!!"> > > > Is this so? Should bachelor Brahmin coming across your path be > > considered bad? I did not knew this one?> > > > But why??? What bad it gives??? And if a married Brahmin come than???> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote:> > >> > > There are umpteen phenomena observed on this planet that cannot be > > explained by Science. > > > > > > An example is a 14 year old boy in a village school in U.P., who > > never had any English education -even the alphabets- and was totally > > educated in Hindi, cut off from main stream due to inaccessibility > > of the village, suddenly started speaking with a typical American > > accent on highly specialised Scientific subjects, the theories and > > how to proceed research on the topic, he wanted to continue.> > > > > > Baffled, his parents took him to a mental asylum, but his > > teacher and Principal took him to some Scientists and found that he > > had imbibed the soul of a U.S. Scientist doing research on the > > subject, and was speaking fluently on neurons and so on!!> > > > > > The IndianTV Channels showed repeated interviews with this > > amazing pheomena. Would anyone explain scientifically these > > happenings?> > > > > > Similarly, so many Omens observed as Cat crossing the path when > > starting for a travel or assignment, A Cow coming in the front and > > so many others are taken as an Omen, good or bad. A bachelor Brahmin > > coming across your path is one of the worst Omens and people > > generally return without proceeding further!!> > > > > > > > > Nitin Patil enpy91@ wrote:> > > Folks, is this for real or just a superstition? I > > don't mean to challenge anyone's intelligence but just seeking the > > answer. Is there a scientific reason for this (or for that matter > > contradictory) view?> > > > > > I tend to believe that Vedic Astrology has scientific foundation > > and hence its predictions hold some water, but lizard falling on > > head.... if someone can, please enlighten me with the scientific > > reasoning....> > > > > > And oh... no flames please...> > > > > > suchitra_kamath suchitra_kamath@ wrote:> > > Hi,> > > > > > From personal experience I know it is not a good omen at > > all.Please > > > seek remedy.> > > > > > Sorry to have disturbed you.> > > > > > Thanks> > > Suchitra> > > > > > , <swami@> wrote:> > > >> > > > It isa good omen, one can get elaveted position.> > > > However in support Birth data is incomplete.> > > > In case of event place is not quoted.> > > > with best wishes.> > > > - > > > > Acharya Chaitanya > > > > > > > > Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:09 PM> > > > House lizard falling on head> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > I read the mail on falling lizard and may you please let me > > > know if house lizard falls on the head of a male entering an > > office > > > of a Temple on June 1 2007 evening around 6.25pm after evening > > > Arathi.> > > > > > > > born on 29 june 1968> > > > > > > > .> > > > hHANNN_._,___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------> > > -----------> > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > > > who knows.> > > > Answers - Check it out.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > > FareChase. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see > > what's on, when.> > >> >> > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.>

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I cannot explain myslef!! I have just quoted what is mentioned about "Omens" in the Panchanga!! Can you imagine, a man coming with firwood bundle on his head is a good omen!!sun_el <sun_el wrote: "A bachelor Brahmin coming across your path is one of the worst Omens and people generally return without proceeding further!!"Is this so? Should bachelor Brahmin coming across your path be considered bad? I did not knew this one?But why??? What bad it gives??? And if a

married Brahmin come than??? , S kumar <kumar_8134 wrote:>> There are umpteen phenomena observed on this planet that cannot be explained by Science. > > An example is a 14 year old boy in a village school in U.P., who never had any English education -even the alphabets- and was totally educated in Hindi, cut off from main stream due to inaccessibility of the village, suddenly started speaking with a typical American accent on highly specialised Scientific subjects, the theories and how to proceed research on the topic, he wanted to continue.> > Baffled, his parents took him to a mental asylum, but his teacher and Principal took him to some Scientists and found that he had imbibed the soul of a U.S. Scientist doing research on the subject, and was speaking fluently on neurons

and so on!!> > The IndianTV Channels showed repeated interviews with this amazing pheomena. Would anyone explain scientifically these happenings?> > Similarly, so many Omens observed as Cat crossing the path when starting for a travel or assignment, A Cow coming in the front and so many others are taken as an Omen, good or bad. A bachelor Brahmin coming across your path is one of the worst Omens and people generally return without proceeding further!!> > > Nitin Patil <enpy91 wrote:> Folks, is this for real or just a superstition? I don't mean to challenge anyone's intelligence but just seeking the answer. Is there a scientific reason for this (or for that matter contradictory) view?> > I tend to believe that Vedic Astrology has scientific foundation and hence its predictions hold some water, but lizard falling on head.... if someone can, please

enlighten me with the scientific reasoning....> > And oh... no flames please...> > suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath wrote:> Hi,> > From personal experience I know it is not a good omen at all.Please > seek remedy.> > Sorry to have disturbed you.> > Thanks> Suchitra> > , <swami@> wrote:> >> > It isa good omen, one can get elaveted position.> > However in support Birth data is incomplete.> > In case of event place is not quoted.> > with best wishes.> > - > > Acharya Chaitanya > > > > Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:09

PM> > House lizard falling on head> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > I read the mail on falling lizard and may you please let me > know if house lizard falls on the head of a male entering an office > of a Temple on June 1 2007 evening around 6.25pm after evening > Arathi.> > > > born on 29 june 1968> > > > .> > hHANNN_._,___ > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------> -----------> > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > who knows.> > Answers - Check it out.> >> > > > > > > Looking for a

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Chattambi Swamigal was a human with Siddhi and could do wonders. Once he told one landlord that he would be bringing about 100 guests for lunch (Sadya) and to make arrangements. On the appointed day, over 100 dogs accompanied Chattambi swamigal, came and sat in front of banana leaves ready for partaking in the feast. Food was given as in a regular marriage feast, the dogs ate as disciplined soldiers and no sooner the feast was over, Swamigal asked the dogs to walk out and released the spell on them outside the gate. The dogs became normal and went away barking!! Several similar cases are on record and Chattambi swamigal was of late 20th.Century. I have certainly read somewhere that Naanuguru had to learn a lot of Hindu philosophy..etc. from Chattambi swamigal and was accepted as his Guru, though they were contemporaries. I know from the families in Trivandrum the

miracle that was Chattambi, though he moved like an ordinary man as any others. Vidyadhiraja as he was known. He left this world in Samadhi posture, a Siddhi only Yogi-s can do- in Padmasana posture as Maharshi Yogananda did in New York in 1959. But Narayana Guru had to lie down to die and it is said his disciples took the dead man and brought him to sitting posture before rigor mortis set in, and made an opening on the fontanelles to show that life escaped through the vertex, as maharshi-s perform their last act!! This was a known talk in Varkala in 1940-s. The bachelor Brahmin singly coming across as a bad omen is also very vigorously observed in Tamilnadu. If one starts for some important errand, care is taken to send someone in advance to see no scuh bad omen comes on the way, in the immediate vicinity.

Similar is the Cat crossing the path and people return home, have a galss of water or tea, rest and then only leave again. sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare rama krishna, dear Kumarji, Yes its is single brahmin -means one brahmin ,pls refer any of the texts deals with shakuna ,prashna

maarga,prasna reethi or prashna anushtana padhathi (main kerala classics deals with prashna) it clearely says so ,evn they used other termes for brahmachari,sanyasi ,and those who begging ,prasna reethi kara is non brahmin and he refers thampran (yembran-a word used by lower casts to adress brahmins in cast driven society).And also in explanations by punnaserri neelakanta sharma and all ,it says vipra dwayam is not bad (means 2 brahmin) so its understood beyond doubt that ottabrahmin is a brahmin who comes singly on your way during the begining of an important journey .But this is not applicable to persons who lives near brahmin settlements as there will be always brahmins around. And Your reference to chattampi swamikal as guru of sri narayan guru is totaly wrong as they both were travelling together in serch knowledge and their search for truth ,god and knowledge and chattampi swamikal is 2 years elder to sri

narayana guru and both tried to be sisysa of sri thycattu ayyavu a yoga expert (who could flaot in air (akaash gamana vidya) and done performance in frnt of resident collector --a british man and he was also working as govt servant with central secretariate in trivandrum )and who possess raasa vidya (ancient chemical preparations which deals with making of gold and medicines related to longitivity mainly devlped by saint agastya and followers to repair any damage caused by wrong yoga practises or wrong life style) and some time together with his residence ,do u think a guru and sisya will do like that ,offcourse sri narayan guru always address him as guru,but not in practical sense.Also please dont refer any sanyasi by his cast ,offcourse people has to born in some cast in india . regrds sunilnair for professional consultation and

discussions http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ pt.sunilnair om shreem maha laxmai namah. , S kumar <kumar_8134 wrote:>> I still feel that the term "Single Brahmin" refers to an unmarried Bachelor Brahmin" and not a married Brahmin approaching without his spouse by his side!> "Ottabrahmanan" in Malayalam means a Brahmin who is single, obviously meaning unmarried > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> Hare ramakrishna,> dear sun_el.> Its not bachelor brahmin or married brahmin ,it says a single brahmin (one brahmin) is bad when u starts a journey in the begining

time or starting time of journey ,they come across its bad ,u will not achieve the results and same sastra says siting of prostitutes in good .> Even i find people has this belief when the traders if their the first sale is to if a prostitute or some one with a good hand ( i dont know the translation ) says to bring good results .> all this may happened because brahmins used to liv by dakshina which totaly depends on the mercy of people .> regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> pt.sunilnair (professional consultations)> > , "sun_el" sun_el@ wrote:> >> > > > "A bachelor Brahmin coming across your path is one of the worst > > Omens and people generally return without proceeding further!!"> > > > Is this so? Should bachelor Brahmin coming across your path be > > considered bad? I did not knew

this one?> > > > But why??? What bad it gives??? And if a married Brahmin come than???> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote:> > >> > > There are umpteen phenomena observed on this planet that cannot be > > explained by Science. > > > > > > An example is a 14 year old boy in a village school in U.P., who > > never had any English education -even the alphabets- and was totally > > educated in Hindi, cut off from main stream due to inaccessibility > > of the village, suddenly started speaking with a typical American > > accent on highly specialised Scientific subjects, the theories and > > how to proceed research on the topic, he wanted to continue.> > > > > > Baffled, his parents took him

to a mental asylum, but his > > teacher and Principal took him to some Scientists and found that he > > had imbibed the soul of a U.S. Scientist doing research on the > > subject, and was speaking fluently on neurons and so on!!> > > > > > The IndianTV Channels showed repeated interviews with this > > amazing pheomena. Would anyone explain scientifically these > > happenings?> > > > > > Similarly, so many Omens observed as Cat crossing the path when > > starting for a travel or assignment, A Cow coming in the front and > > so many others are taken as an Omen, good or bad. A bachelor Brahmin > > coming across your path is one of the worst Omens and people > > generally return without proceeding further!!> > > > > > > > > Nitin Patil enpy91@ wrote:> > > Folks, is this for real or just

a superstition? I > > don't mean to challenge anyone's intelligence but just seeking the > > answer. Is there a scientific reason for this (or for that matter > > contradictory) view?> > > > > > I tend to believe that Vedic Astrology has scientific foundation > > and hence its predictions hold some water, but lizard falling on > > head.... if someone can, please enlighten me with the scientific > > reasoning....> > > > > > And oh... no flames please...> > > > > > suchitra_kamath suchitra_kamath@ wrote:> > > Hi,> > > > > > From personal experience I know it is not a good omen at > > all.Please > > > seek remedy.> > > > > > Sorry to have disturbed you.> > > > > > Thanks> > > Suchitra> > > >

> > , <swami@> wrote:> > > >> > > > It isa good omen, one can get elaveted position.> > > > However in support Birth data is incomplete.> > > > In case of event place is not quoted.> > > > with best wishes.> > > > - > > > > Acharya Chaitanya > > > > > > > > Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:09 PM> > > > House lizard falling on head> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > I read the mail on falling lizard and may you please let me > > > know if house lizard falls on the head of a male

entering an > > office > > > of a Temple on June 1 2007 evening around 6.25pm after evening > > > Arathi.> > > > > > > > born on 29 june 1968> > > > > > > > .> > > > hHANNN_._,___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------> > > -----------> > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > > > who knows.> > > > Answers - Check it out.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with

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Hare ramakrishna.

dear kumarji .

What i hav said is from authorised texts on astrology and books on omens ,we cannot go by what people practise .There is lot of saying like moolam piranthal kottai kettum (Those who born in moolam star will be living in fort ) in that case world will be full of forts.So there is lot of differrence between what pople will observe and what is in actual as its natuaral to hav erosions over a period of time .

Then again regrding sidhis dont confuse yourself with unilateral statements and pls try to absorb more ,can u tell me what takur sri ramakrishna paramahamsa done as sidhis to general public ,or he died in which way or many saints of yore ,yes those who practise yoga vidya is strong enough to release their prana tru skull -brahma randra bhedana.

I hav one frnds father who died this way --he was a poor local tailor but very adept in yoga practises and follower of tamil sidhas and after his death when he was taken out for ceremonial bath only every body came to know that his skull is cracked other wise he was in lying position.

chattampi swamikal asked kumbalathu sanku paillai ( he was staying with him and good sisya of swamikal) to help him in yoga =padmasan posture .and he died that way .And sree narayana gurus body was mutilated on skull is wrong news --u can check travancore palace archives as he was sufferring from some urinry related diseases and maharaja of travencore himself sent palace doctor sri -krishnan thampy to look after guru and report daily to palace what is happening .And lot of other ayurvedic and sidha practising physicians were around ,so u pls think whether its possible ,only to make sure that he died like a maharishi by opening a hole in his skull by force or by some instruments .

This all allegations will malign the spiritual aspects of our kerla only as narayana guru was instrumental in many reforms and also stopping majority of hindus from conversions to christianity ,even vatican offerred him saint hood.Even he bring back many from folds of conversions by re converting and if ask any sri lankans who is known and well read, he converted one khader a srilankan muslim rich business man to hinduism and later years he was known as khader kanthaswami ,while his trip to srilanka .U know sri mannath padmanbhan the leader of nairs of kerala accepted as sri narayana guru as guru and on his instruction he deleted his famour nair title from his name -pillai and he started writing his name as mannath padmanabhan only .Both r big gurus and only differrence i find is that most of sri narayanas sisyas was nampoothiri or nairs and of swamikal was ezhavas and other casts ,except sri kumbalath sankara pillai can u tell me one famous nair zamindar assossiated with swamikal ,even the invitation from many big families he rejected and he was a frequnter with only MKK nairs family and the then chairman of jamshedpur steel city and F.A.C.T--even invitation from arumana amma veedu (most famous nair family)--wifes family of tranvancore raja he rejected .One was a karma yogi -a very difficult part of spirituality and other was bhakti yogi .

So these gurus were beyond our perceptions and as they born in kerala and being tiny state in remotest part of india their contributions most of indian are unheard.

 

Can u tell me who was guru of chattampi swamikal who disclosed the secret of kechari mudra to swami vivekanda .And in that sense can we call him he is guru of swami vivekananda .Actauly both were travelling in a boat and what discussions happened no body knews and swami vivekanda told later after journey that he got the secret from chattampi swamikal which he was searching and he could not get from many big yogis,may be it was a mutual exchange also .

All the best to u

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, S kumar <kumar_8134 wrote:>> Chattambi Swamigal was a human with Siddhi and could do wonders. Once he told one landlord that he would be bringing about 100 guests for lunch (Sadya) and to make arrangements. On the appointed day, over 100 dogs accompanied Chattambi swamigal, came and sat in front of banana leaves ready for partaking in the feast. Food was given as in a regular marriage feast, the dogs ate as disciplined soldiers and no sooner the feast was over, Swamigal asked the dogs to walk out and released the spell on them outside the gate. The dogs became normal and went away barking!!> > Several similar cases are on record and Chattambi swamigal was of late 20th.Century. I have certainly read somewhere that Naanuguru had to learn a lot of Hindu philosophy..etc. from Chattambi swamigal and was accepted as his Guru, though they were contemporaries. I know from the families in Trivandrum the miracle that was Chattambi, though he moved like an ordinary man as any others. Vidyadhiraja as he was known.> > He left this world in Samadhi posture, a Siddhi only Yogi-s can do- in Padmasana posture as Maharshi Yogananda did in New York in 1959. But Narayana Guru had to lie down to die and it is said his disciples took the dead man and brought him to sitting posture before rigor mortis set in, and made an opening on the fontanelles to show that life escaped through the vertex, as maharshi-s perform their last act!! This was a known talk in Varkala in 1940-s.> > The bachelor Brahmin singly coming across as a bad omen is also very vigorously observed in Tamilnadu. If one starts for some important errand, care is taken to send someone in advance to see no scuh bad omen comes on the way, in the immediate vicinity. Similar is the Cat crossing the path and people return home, have a galss of water or tea, rest and then only leave again.> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> Hare rama krishna,> dear Kumarji,> Yes its is single brahmin -means one brahmin ,pls refer any of the texts deals with shakuna ,prashna maarga,prasna reethi or prashna anushtana padhathi (main kerala classics deals with prashna) it clearely says so ,evn they used other termes for brahmachari,sanyasi ,and those who begging ,prasna reethi kara is non brahmin and he refers thampran (yembran-a word used by lower casts to adress brahmins in cast driven society).And also in explanations by punnaserri neelakanta sharma and all ,it says vipra dwayam is not bad (means 2 brahmin) so its understood beyond doubt that ottabrahmin is a brahmin who comes singly on your way during the begining of an important journey .But this is not applicable to persons who lives near brahmin settlements as there will be always brahmins around.> And Your reference to chattampi swamikal as guru of sri narayan guru is totaly wrong as they both were travelling together in serch knowledge and their search for truth ,god and knowledge and chattampi swamikal is 2 years elder to sri narayana guru and both tried to be sisysa of sri thycattu ayyavu a yoga expert (who could flaot in air (akaash gamana vidya) and done performance in frnt of resident collector --a british man and he was also working as govt servant with central secretariate in trivandrum )and who possess raasa vidya (ancient chemical preparations which deals with making of gold and medicines related to longitivity mainly devlped by saint agastya and followers to repair any damage caused by wrong yoga practises or wrong life style) and some time together with his residence ,do u think a guru and sisya will do like that ,offcourse sri narayan guru always address him as guru,but not in practical sense.Also please dont refer any sanyasi by his cast> ,offcourse people has to born in some cast in india .> > > regrds sunilnair > for professional consultation and discussions > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> pt.sunilnair om shreem maha laxmai namah.> > > , S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote:> >> > I still feel that the term "Single Brahmin" refers to an unmarried Bachelor Brahmin" and not a married Brahmin approaching without his spouse by his side!> > "Ottabrahmanan" in Malayalam means a Brahmin who is single, obviously meaning unmarried > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear sun_el.> > Its not bachelor brahmin or married brahmin ,it says a single brahmin (one brahmin) is bad when u starts a journey in the begining time or starting time of journey ,they come across its bad ,u will not achieve the results and same sastra says siting of prostitutes in good .> > Even i find people has this belief when the traders if their the first sale is to if a prostitute or some one with a good hand ( i dont know the translation ) says to bring good results .> > all this may happened because brahmins used to liv by dakshina which totaly depends on the mercy of people .> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > pt.sunilnair@ (professional consultations)> > > > , "sun_el" sun_el@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > "A bachelor Brahmin coming across your path is one of the worst > > > Omens and people generally return without proceeding further!!"> > > > > > Is this so? Should bachelor Brahmin coming across your path be > > > considered bad? I did not knew this one?> > > > > > But why??? What bad it gives??? And if a married Brahmin come than???> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote:> > > >> > > > There are umpteen phenomena observed on this planet that cannot be > > > explained by Science. > > > > > > > > An example is a 14 year old boy in a village school in U.P., who > > > never had any English education -even the alphabets- and was totally > > > educated in Hindi, cut off from main stream due to inaccessibility > > > of the village, suddenly started speaking with a typical American > > > accent on highly specialised Scientific subjects, the theories and > > > how to proceed research on the topic, he wanted to continue.> > > > > > > > Baffled, his parents took him to a mental asylum, but his > > > teacher and Principal took him to some Scientists and found that he > > > had imbibed the soul of a U.S. Scientist doing research on the > > > subject, and was speaking fluently on neurons and so on!!> > > > > > > > The IndianTV Channels showed repeated interviews with this > > > amazing pheomena. Would anyone explain scientifically these > > > happenings?> > > > > > > > Similarly, so many Omens observed as Cat crossing the path when > > > starting for a travel or assignment, A Cow coming in the front and > > > so many others are taken as an Omen, good or bad. A bachelor Brahmin > > > coming across your path is one of the worst Omens and people > > > generally return without proceeding further!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Nitin Patil enpy91@ wrote:> > > > Folks, is this for real or just a superstition? I > > > don't mean to challenge anyone's intelligence but just seeking the > > > answer. Is there a scientific reason for this (or for that matter > > > contradictory) view?> > > > > > > > I tend to believe that Vedic Astrology has scientific foundation > > > and hence its predictions hold some water, but lizard falling on > > > head.... if someone can, please enlighten me with the scientific > > > reasoning....> > > > > > > > And oh... no flames please...> > > > > > > > suchitra_kamath suchitra_kamath@ wrote:> > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > From personal experience I know it is not a good omen at > > > all.Please > > > > seek remedy.> > > > > > > > Sorry to have disturbed you.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Suchitra> > > > > > > > , <swami@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > It isa good omen, one can get elaveted position.> > > > > However in support Birth data is incomplete.> > > > > In case of event place is not quoted.> > > > > with best wishes.> > > > > - > > > > > Acharya Chaitanya > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:09 PM> > > > > House lizard falling on head> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > > > > > I read the mail on falling lizard and may you please let me > > > > know if house lizard falls on the head of a male entering an > > > office > > > > of a Temple on June 1 2007 evening around 6.25pm after evening > > > > Arathi.> > > > > > > > > > born on 29 june 1968> > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > hHANNN_._,___ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------> > > > -----------> > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. 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