Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Hello Manpreet Ji!! Dont be impatient !! and please control urself and ur anger, I know its easy in saying but difficult in doing as I also get angry soon!! , Anyway if Bhaskar ji has banned u that dosent mean u have no option and only a single person cant block life , yes he can block somethings but not all , yes he can give hurdles in ur way but cant in all ways! So please dont use such words even if u r too furious on him!!! I hope u will get and try to overcome ur anger and will ableto increase ur tolerence of such situations!! I request To Bhsakar JI !!! Please allow mails from Mr. Manpreet Ji and simultaneously I m requesting Mr. Manmeet ji please say sorry only for ur this mail (Some bad words u used) on grp and Sorry Kahne se Aap Ki Dignity maintained rahegi!! I hope both of U will be agree with me!! Aap sabhi ka Dhanyawaad!! Thanks To All!!! Rajkrishna verma!!Manpreet Singh <manpreetchaman wrote: DEAR ALL IT SEEMS THIS LUNATIC MAD DOG HAS BANNED MY MAILS FROM THE FORUM. SWAMI JEE.......SORRY...... I HAD REPLIED THIS ALBERT PINTO aka. BHASKAR, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN MY FOOT HAS COME UPON HIS TAIL....AS HE IS SHOUTING UN-NECCESSARY.. PLEASE TELL ME IF HE IS USING SAME BED FOR LAST 20 YEARS, HE HAS BAD COMPUTER, HE IS NOT ABLE TO GIVE HIS WIFE A SAREE........WHERE DOES IT IS MY FAULT ????? SIMPLY IT IS HIS OWN DESTINY....IF HE WANT ME TO HELP TELL I SURELY DO THAT……BHASKAR SUN RAHE HO NA!!!! IF HE REALLY WANT TO EARN MONEY, ADVISE HIM SELL THAT OLD DAMN COMPUTER HE HAS, RATHER PURCHASE ONE PARROT AND SIT BENEATH SOME GOOD TREE AND START PRACTISING THERE BEFORE SOMEONE COMES AND KICKS HIM FROM THERE ALSO THESE PEOPLE ARE REALLY "KALANK" ON ASTROLOGY.. Regards Manpreet Singh swaminath batchu <babbu444 wrote: Hello to both I think of late this forum has become a platform for continuous allegations and counter allegations and continuous egos only .If anyone feels he is wise I think it is better the wise man If he feels so must stop replying and stop discussing first.otherwise you will make everybody inthis forum to feel that you both are wise fools Hello wise man pl stop replying. Let the other man be fool swaminath Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: // But My dear friend there is no measuring device forEGO !!! and there is no limit..upto which it is OK and beyond that it is NOT. // The why are you measuring it ? Dont you have any work ? Why dont you check the pollution levels in Your own area and try to rectify that ? Who asked you to measure and declare My Ego levels ? // BUT Do you meanto say that those other astrologers who are doing so, their'shousehold is being funded by somebody and your's not ??? // When did I say that ? Where did I say that ? Or mean that ? Or imply that ? Are you a first class fool who does not understandsimple English . Where and when did I say or mean this ? // You have started this forum with a vision to give free readings // Which idiot told You that ? It seems You are dreaming and imagining things. // And when a curious person asked you for more astro lessons, you gotfurious un-neccesarily and coined the terminology that you areproviding free things so will do it as and when you like.// When did I get furious and where did I mention this type of thing. Show me the Mail. You really need a Psychiatrist for your wierd imaginations. // I really appreciate that You acknowledged that ATLEAST those TWO (2)Divine persons had solved your ENIGMATIC HOROSCOPE...AND Iconsidered myself not even a DWARF before them AND AGAIN you hadalso made a BLIND & SURE Judgement....I am highly Obliged sir..foryour kind views !!! // This is not a blind judgement. You apparently dont fit the bill to read charts for anyone. Your level of intelligence is quite clear for all to see.// offers this Forum Services FREE of COST for anybody and I can have one, THERE IS NO NEED TO BE AT YOUR FORUM. // What century are you living in Talk something which we dont know.Even Kindergarten studying child knows the above. You need not stay here . You were not invited by me to be on this Forum. i did not send You any invitation Card. // And for your reference, I am not new to this forum, One of yourForum member know me, He is Sh , IF HE IS IN YOUR GOOD BOOKS….you can check form him. // I feel sad for his taste and choice of friends like you, who are utter time wasters and with top floor empty. // Lastly, Thanx a lot for sparing your valuable time for replying me,I hope it has not come between your Commercial time….!!!! // I have some commercial time at least . It seems you do not have any.Thats why you are wasting others time. Somebody is funding your lunch and dinner for free so You have a big mouth and enough time to waste , and dont understand value of same. You seem to talk like a lady who was slighted by her lover. I am sure you must have harrased me on My Chart for free readings, and when request was not met, you are now talking abour commercial part. And come back with vengeance. // take care, I try to be active now... // Big Brother takes care of me. Keep your advices to yourself. Save your own skin. and yes its high time you become active now, and start serving your family or yourself, and not live like a vegetable. Rest of your Mail I am not replying as its utter nonsense. I have replied you in a normal way, and not in the way I would have liked, because this is a Jyotish Forum and so many good members all around look upto me, so have to restrain myself. Bhaskar. , "manpreetchaman" <manpreetchaman wrote:>> > BHASKAR Jee,> > I really value your reply and the best part is you have not tried to > degrade me. But My dear friend there is no measuring device for > EGO !!! and there is no limit..upto which it is OK and beyond that > it is NOT..> > I am not as learned as you....And I am not insulting or instructing > you.> > You are definately answering the queries properly, BUT Do you mean > to say that those other astrologers who are doing so, their's > household is being funded by somebody and your's not ???> > You have started this forum with a vision to give free readings > which you did also, i have been Silent part of this forum for a > quite a long time AND would like to mention here to make you clear > that I had not taken either yours or your forum-members input on my > chart.> > And when a curious person asked you for more astro lessons, you got > furious un-neccesarily and coined the terminology that you are > providing free things so will do it as and when you like. You are > not the only person doing this, there are MANY....it is a matter of > vision only !!!> > Please don't feel pride that you had not BANNED me and others (who > retaliate you ) from this forum, because it would not help much....> > PRETENDING to be BEST and allowing others to reply in this forum has > NO Co-relevance, in every forum anybody can reply to any message...> > NOW regarding interest in your Chart, Great people charts are often > published in books and magazines, one can easliy get from there. AND > For your information, as you said in your ATAM-KATHA, you had faced > various Ups & Downs, and pursuing Astrology, etc..etc.., I THOUGHT , > being a student of Astrology I may have your chart, Nothing > more.... MOREOVER I am SORRY....I don't know the style YOU LIKE of > asking any horoscope !!!> > I really appreciate that You acknowledged that ATLEAST those TWO (2) > Divine persons had solved your ENIGMATIC HOROSCOPE...AND I > considered myself not even a DWARF before them AND AGAIN you had > also made a BLIND & SURE Judgement....I am highly Obliged sir..for > your kind views !!!> > NOW I think you are mistaken/suspicious about my identity, I am not > here TO SETTLE ANY SCORE neither I have any Commercial interest. > offers this Forum Services FREE of COST for anybody and I can > have one, THERE IS NO NEED TO BE AT YOUR FORUM.> > And for your reference, I am not new to this forum, One of your > Forum member know me, He is Sh , IF HE IS IN YOUR GOOD > BOOKS….you can check form him.> > Lastly, Thanx a lot for sparing your valuable time for replying me, > I hope it has not come between your Commercial time….!!!!> > Take care, I try to be active now...> > Regards> > Manpreet Singh> > > > , "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > What is a women without clothes and shyness ?> > What is a Military Leader without Courage ?> > What is a School teacher without Discipline ?> > What is a Political leader without Power ?> > What is a Saint without pride of being a Son of God ?> > What is a good King without justice qualities ? AND> > What is Man without some Ego ?> > > > How can the above all survive without these Qualities ?> > > > Ego uptil a certain extent is a necessity in all ,> > occupying certain positions in their respective fields,> > but excess is undesirable.If You observe excess in me> > then its Your way of looking.> > > > If I had Excessive Ego, I would have mantained a> > absolute clean image, amd not allowed Your Posts> > and of others like you, to come on Board. I> > would have stopped them and not approved them here> > on the List.I could have banned You on the first> > instance itself without anyone come to realise the> > same.But why do I allow the same to come here ? Only to> > break the Ego in me if develops once in a while more> > than necessary. If Ego was there I would not have> > mentioned the undesirable qualities present in> > me genetically which I am trying to improve upon.> > neither would have mentioned my Poor Financial Status> > of past and my troubles and mistakes> > committed. neither would have mentioned my inability> > to persue Astrology as a commercial profession.> > > > Tell me one thing. If anyone is Funding my Household> > expenditures then why should anyone go commercial ?> > > > Tell me have I not been answering Queries regularly> > on this and other Forums whenever I am able to?> > What commercial part is seen in those answers ?> > > > If I pretend to be the best, then why did (The latest> > Instance)I request others to do justice to the Post> > of Elaine Gardner and declare that I cannot> > possibly reply her in the way answer is acquired.> > > > Why are the other astrolgers allowed here to answer> > the queries on this Forum if I pretend> > to be the best ? Please tell me this.> > > > If I am so Egoistic then why are you interested in> > My Chart ?Why dont you study the Charts of Real good> > and Best people who are not so Egoistic and not> > pretending to be the best? Why waste time on My Chart?> > knowledge can be gained on thousands of others Chart> > who are really Great people.> > > > I dont have to pretend. I know what I am good at,> > and proud of what I am good at. What that good is> > is a subject of imagination for You, and I would> > like to keep it so.> > > > My Chart is not in My Safe Custody. I have given my> > birth particulars to many on various forums, and> > thousands have seen and studied My Chart on these> > Forums. But those who have requested without> > arrogance have always got my details for just asking.> > > > By the way My Chart is a Enigma and not many can> > solve it. In fact I know of only 2 persons in India> > who can solve it. And I know for sure that You cannot.> > > > I have made many enemies on these Forums with my> > straightforward nature of calling spade a spade,> > and many of the astrologers are also yellow with> > my way of working as I harm their commercial interests.> > I just hope that You are not among the above categories> > who has come in new Form (Id)to settle some scores,> > which I have long forgotten.In that case no amount of> > explanations from My side will be able to satisfy> > Your good self.> > > > Take care,> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > , "manpreetchaman"> > <manpreetchaman@> wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar jee> > >> > > AAP tou naraaj ho gaye...aisa lagta hai!!!> > >> > > I must correct you here, that I AM NOT ASKING ANY INPUTS FROM > YOU or> > > your forum-members. AND I don't want to discuss your chart > here....I> > > want to know WHAT ALL EGOISTIC PART IN YOUR CHART...This is > exactly> > > I mean by Mails & Counter-Mails. As you often pretend that you R > the> > > BEST..> > >> > > You are correct that i can simply delete this mail.....BUT SIR I> > > have not offended you anywhere....I had simply asked for > something> > > and if you are not interested IT IS AGAIN YOUR SWEET WISH, Keep > it> > > in your SAFE CUSTODY.....But pls don't get irritated like this !!> > >> > > I have asked only for my reference/knowledge !!!> > >> > > Nothing more...COOL UP Please....> > >> > > Regards> > > Manpreet Singh> > >> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Manpreet,> > > >> > > > Whatever AtmaKatha (Autobiography) You dont like,> > > > you just have to close the book. Its in Your hands.> > > > Here you may delete the mail. No one is requesting You> > > > to read the same. Either Read it or Ignore it. Thats> > > > Your prerogative.> > > >> > > > You have read my Mails and Counter Mails too. This> > > > statement I cannot understand.> > > > Can You elaborate more ?> > > >> > > > Narration that I charge for professional Consultations,> > > > is very much necessary from time to time for the new> > > > members, who take the liberty of intruding on my Chat> > > > or personal id and look for Free inputs there. WHICH> > > > IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW. in a more subtle manner> > > > by suggesting to exchange our Charts. My> > > > Narration is specially given so that those who disturb> > > > me for Free Chart Readings should know what> > > > they are in for. No free lunches are given here.> > > > On the Forum, its a seperate matter. If any> > > > astrologer is free, then he may take up the> > > > case, strictly to his choice and wish.> > > >> > > > I have no intentions of having My Chart> > > > read by anyone. I am not interested.> > > >> > > > But if You wish,You may give us the Chart details,> > > > and if anyone wishes to,he may reply you.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "manpreetchaman"> > > > <manpreetchaman@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar jee> > > > >> > > > > Thanx for narrating your ATAM-KATHA.....> > > > >> > > > > Sir, It is your Very Sweet Wish to charge for Astrological> > > > > consulations or Not....But no point narrating this at forum.> > > > >> > > > > I have been reading your mails and counter mails to your > mails> > > also.> > > > >> > > > > At your this message, May I ask upon you to have your Birth> > > details.> > > > >> > > > > If you wish I can give mine..> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Manpreet Singh> > > > > 98711-73731> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > >> > > > > > Its embarassing for me when someone reminds me of the> > > > > > Astrology Lessons., which I agree,are due since a good> > > > > > period.> > > > > >> > > > > > Let me explain myself. Since last 20 Years from 1985,> > > > > > I have been facing great troubles in my life,> > > > > > I have left House twice - with no money in my pockets,> > > > > > was used and abused by own kith and kin, and made to> > > > > > serve as labour for 28 long years in own fathers office.> > > > > > Was never rude or outspoken against elders, served them> > > > > > most dutifully and never gave cause from my side, for> > > > > > anyone to complain. When I left my house> > > > > > two times, once in 1985 and once in 2001-2 I picked> > > > > > up some Loans for my family sustenance, as had> > > > > > never asked for My Share or Ancestral share. When> > > > > > I was called back by my Family after many pleas,> > > > > > I worked in my family business, but the Loans> > > > > > remained as it is, without anyone bothered to ask me> > > > > > how You survived and whom You have to pay.> > > > > > My earnings went in the family pool and living> > > > > > in a joint family individual demands are never made> > > > > > and their efforts too are not acknowledged (Generally).> > > > > > being a self-respecting person I never asked any of my> > > > > > elders for money, but just accepted monthly> > > > > > remunerations given to me, as given to the others> > > > > > (My co-born). But we have to pay our Loans coming from> > > > > > a good family, so i committed my first mistake. That> > > > > > was to take another Loan to pay the first one.> > > > > > And then started my harrowing experience of two decades.> > > > > > The Loan taking cycle continued for 20 long years,> > > > > > accumlating in a good total by the end of it, though the> > > > > > money used initially for sustenance requirements was> > > > > > small amount, but the end result was big amount ,due> > > > > > to accumlation of interests etc.> > > > > >> > > > > > This has taken a good toll on my mental state of mind> > > > > > and somehow have been able to keep people away from my> > > > > > doors for many years with Gods Grace, luxuries and> > > > > > normal comforts too had become alien to me, because> > > > > > of not allowing myself the pleasures of normal life.> > > > > >> > > > > > I left my family business 3 years back, without again> > > > > > asking for my Share, as was having compatibility problems> > > > > > with other Male members in my family. We are all> > > > > > Hot headed, impulsive, eccentric, argumentive,> > > > > > not flexible, Egoistic, never want to loose to the> > > > > > other, dont listen to others opinion, in fact dont allow> > > > > > the other person to put his point, very rigid in thought> > > > > > process and actions, and ready to fight (Even physically)> > > > > > at the slightest feeling of being insulted .. We> > > > > > cannot take no for an answer. Now how can so many> > > > > > people with such traits sit in one office and work> > > > > > together ? Finally I felt that I had enough, and> > > > > > there was no job satisfaction, or any happiness> > > > > > of having achieved anything. So I just quit.> > > > > > Again back to square one with the Loan still standing> > > > > > as a sword on my head. (Only the Creditors changed,> > > > > > and the amount inflated in the succeedent years).> > > > > >> > > > > > My Guruji , from Bikaner, Rajasthan, two years back> > > > > > had come to Bombay. he does not need Birth Charts to> > > > > > know about anyone. But can just see the face and tell> > > > > > the whole story (Master of Tantra). he just> > > > > > told me one sentence "Bagriji You have to now start> > > > > > persuing Jyotish as a Profession and stop behaving> > > > > > like a Sanyasi" I never had the guts to ask him, why> > > > > > he said so and what did he see about me to utter those> > > > > > words. But a command is a command. I followed it,> > > > > > though not whole heartedly (nevr took money since> > > > > > last so many years from anyone because Jyotish had> > > > > > always been a hobby and pass time for me)and asking> > > > > > money for Consultations was the last thing i could do> > > > > > in my remotest imaginations or dreams. In fact> > > > > > as per my thinking it was shameful task.> > > > > >> > > > > > But as time passed on, My thinking changed, as also> > > > > > the necessities of life made me change it, then at> > > > > > the back of my mind was always the gnawing thought,> > > > > > that I am disobeying my Gurus Orders.> > > > > > I started asking Fees from those whom I could.> > > > > > I had few takers only for the same. This was> > > > > > about 1 year back. Most of my friends and> > > > > > relatives used to take up my major time with> > > > > > enquiries on their own charts, and naturally they could> > > > > > not be asked any fees neither could they> > > > > > provide my bread and butter. My mutual Funds busines> > > > > > started by me 2 years back does not of course> > > > > > provide full months ration unless one gives full labour> > > > > > and time to it. In the meanwhile I continued> > > > > > giving few hours daily to Free services on forums and> > > > > > the like, which was a suggestion by Shri Arjunji> > > > > > Pandit (You are aware he is a Respected member here and> > > > > > into Mantra Healing and Rudraksha). Arjunji had> > > > > > advised that this will reduce lot of Karmic rinabandhans.> > > > > >> > > > > > I got the results with Lords grace finally .> > > > > > My Rahu mahaDasha started 3 months back.> > > > > > About one month back, I have been hired by a Company> > > > > > for professional services related to Astrology.> > > > > > This wil take care of my monthly household expenses.> > > > > > But this also takes up most of my time in the day,> > > > > > for I have assignments to complete and submit.> > > > > > Since this is having implications on certain matters> > > > > > including termination of Contract, I have my> > > > > > Priorities. That is the Main reason I> > > > > > have not been able to send the Lessons off late.> > > > > >> > > > > > Finally after many years it looks like, I have a stable> > > > > > monthly income in store for me, which I should not disturb,> > > > > > being a responsible head of my immediate family.> > > > > >> > > > > > Writing a lesson is just a 20 minutes job, if> > > > > > i have to fill in few Pages, but You know My nature> > > > > > I dont like such type of work, You have seen my previous> > > > > > lessons, I cannot compromise on the quality and matter.> > > > > > Though my current occupation demands me present on the> > > > > > PC ,the whole day, and in between I also post on> > > > > > this and other Forums, but writing a lesson is> > > > > > a seperate cup of tea altogether. One needs 2-3 hours> > > > > > sittings for at least 3 times a week to write a> > > > > > Chapter with least errors or mistakes.> > > > > >> > > > > > But this does not mean that it is a Full Stop. I will> > > > > > definitely do the needful as and when I am able to> > > > > > write in spare time, and at times there may be delay, and> > > > > > at times there also may be few lessons together to make up> > > > > > and compensate for the delay as my rewards to your> > > > > > patience.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> SWAMI NATH Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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