Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 dear jyotisha, you will get the same in Pt. sanjay Rathji Book named " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " . Thanks & Regards naveen - In sohamsa , " pretty_girl20130 " <pretty_girl20130 wrote: > > can some1 mail me details on curses > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 om krishna guru, dear dennis, Any planets aspected by (planetary) two or more malefics amounts to curse.moon is matru (mother) mana(mind)karaka .And results will depends on position in charts and other karakatwas of planets incliding chara karaktwas. there is discussion on moon sani yoga in a grp and pls refer it also,moon aspected either by sani or mars and influencing there house is sanyas yoga also. i am waiting for others to comment. regds sunil nair http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Dear astrlogers, > Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali? > I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied? > Dennis > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Dennis, The last few chapters of Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra extensively discuss about curses, but the results are restrained only upto **CHILDLESSNESS**. These combinations are like esoteric principles with a result from Past birth with a suggested remedy. I am not aware of any other curses.... I can tell you a combination for Curse for Moon (which I have)..for a Pisces ascendant, 5th lord is Debilitaed..is the curse due to Mother of Previous of birth. Even texts like Bhrigusamhita or Nadi texts speak about curses. But alas...we are in kali yuga & rebirth is a result of curses. Cant we get out of it & do our " Karma " ??? Thanq, vedic astrology , " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Dear astrlogers, > Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali? > I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied? > Dennis > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear astrlogers, Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali?I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied?Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Om namah shivaya Dear dennis, Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following: Curses / planets affected Father / sun Mother / moon Sister / venus Uncle / mercury Brother / mars Guru/teacher / jupiter Nature/snake / rahu Monks / ketu Poor / saturn Wife or husband / venus Hope the above helps. Thanks. Rgds Anand " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster 15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 To:,<vedic astrology > Curses Dear astrlogers, Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali? I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied? Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear dennis, Its me again! This can happen either due to dirsthi or yuti of planets. Rgds Anand -- Apr 16, 2007 10:48 Re: Curses Om namah shivaya Dear dennis, Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following: Curses / planets affected Father / sun Mother / moon Sister / venus Uncle / mercury Brother / mars Guru/teacher / jupiter Nature/snake / rahu Monks / ketu Poor / saturn Wife or husband / venus Hope the above helps. Thanks. Rgds Anand -- Dennis Sender: vedic astrology Reply Apr 16, 2007 10:29 Curses Dear astrlogers, Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali? I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied? Dennis Messages in this topic : </message/1706;_ylc=X3oDMTM1cjVtajcyB\ F9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARtc2dJZAMxNzA2BHNlY\ wNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE3NjY5OTU3NwR0cGNJZAMxNzA2> (1) : </post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMHV0cXBmBF9TAzk3M\ zU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARtc2dJZAMxNzA2BHNlYwNmdHIEc\ 2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE3NjY5OTU3Nw--?act=reply & messageNum=1706> Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic : </post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmY2l0MGlwBF9TAzk3M\ zU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0a\ W1lAzExNzY2OTk1Nzc-> Messages: </messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOW52bmhzBF9TA\ zk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzB\ HN0aW1lAzExNzY2OTk1Nzc-> : </;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcDJqYWxxBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE4NzAwM\ TY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTE3NjY5OTU3Nw--> Change settings via the Web: </join;_ylc=X3oDMTJnNWcyMmVqBF9TAzk3N\ Dc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNzdG5ncwRzd\ GltZQMxMTc2Njk5NTc3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007  Jai Shri Mataji!Thanks for the great advised received from all of you:-) I have a question:When you say "malefic planets" ,you mean the naturals malefics (Saturn ,Sun, Mars, weak Moon and Mercury) or planets who are badly placed and thus become malefic?Regards, Denis - Anand Ravi Monday, April 16, 2007 9:29 AM Re: Curses Om namah shivayaDear dennis,Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies.When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following:Curses / planets affectedFather / sunMother / moonSister / venusUncle / mercuryBrother / marsGuru/teacher / jupiterNature/snake / rahuMonks / ketuPoor / saturnWife or husband / venusHope the above helps.Thanks. RgdsAnand"Dennis" <mprgrandmaster (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 To:,<vedic astrology > CursesDear astrlogers, Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali?I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied?Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Om namah shivaye Dear dennis, When I say malefic, its natural malefics (sun, moon - kirshna paksha, mars, saturn, rahu and ketu). Mercury can be benefic or malefic depending on the conjunction. All planets aspects 7th house from their position. This is called gharga drishti. Other than this some planets do have special aspects, as below Rahu and ketu : 5 and 9 house Jupiter : 5 and 9 house Saturn : 3 and 10 house Mars : 4 and 8 house From their position. Rgds Anand " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster 16 Apr 2007 01:25:03 To: Re: Curses  Jai Shri Mataji! Thanks for the great advised received from all of you:-) I have a question:When you say " malefic planets " ,you mean the naturals malefics (Saturn ,Sun, Mars, weak Moon and Mercury) or planets who are badly placed and thus become malefic? Regards, Denis  - Anand Ravi: <anandravi2004 @: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:29 AM Re: Curses Om namah shivaya Dear dennis, Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following: Curses / planets affected Father / sun Mother / moon Sister / venus Uncle / mercury Brother / mars Guru/teacher / jupiter Nature/snake / rahu Monks / ketu Poor / saturn Wife or husband / venus Hope the above helps. Thanks. Rgds Anand " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster@: <mprgrandmaster%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com> 15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 To:<@: <%40> >,<vedic astrology@: <vedic astrology%40> > Curses Dear astrlogers, Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali? I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied? Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear Anandji I am a beginner in astrology. Is it true that Rahu and Ketu do not have aspects or is it a different school of thought. I write this because you ahve mentioned that Rahu, Ketu along with Jupiter aspect 5H and 9H. Regards BobbyAnand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote: Om namah shivaye Dear dennis, When I say malefic, its natural malefics (sun, moon - kirshna paksha, mars, saturn, rahu and ketu). Mercury can be benefic or malefic depending on the conjunction. All planets aspects 7th house from their position. This is called gharga drishti. Other than this some planets do have special aspects, as below Rahu and ketu : 5 and 9 house Jupiter : 5 and 9 house Saturn : 3 and 10 house Mars : 4 and 8 house From their position. Rgds Anand "Dennis" <mprgrandmaster (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> 16 Apr 2007 01:25:03 To: Re: Curses  Jai Shri Mataji!Thanks for the great advised received from all of you:-) I have a question:When you say "malefic planets" ,you mean the naturals malefics (Saturn ,Sun, Mars, weak Moon and Mercury) or planets who are badly placed and thus become malefic?Regards, Denis  ----- Original Message ----- Anand Ravi: <anandravi2004 > @: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:29 AM Re: Curses Om namah shivayaDear dennis,Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies.When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following:Curses / planets affectedFather / sunMother / moonSister / venusUncle / mercuryBrother / marsGuru/teacher / jupiterNature/snake / rahuMonks / ketuPoor / saturnWife or husband / venusHope the above helps.Thanks. RgdsAnand"Dennis" <mprgrandmaster@: <mprgrandmaster%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com>15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 To:<@: <%40> >,<vedic astrology@: <vedic astrology%40> > CursesDear astrlogers, Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali?I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied?Dennis Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear Anand, Is there any classical reference for these curses that you have defined. I know this has been extensively taught in SJC circles. However, what is covered under curses in BHPS is totally different, hence my question. Regards, Krishna --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote: > Om namah shivaya > > Dear dennis, > > Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. > There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see > which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. > > When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother > from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following: > > Curses / planets affected > Father / sun > Mother / moon > Sister / venus > Uncle / mercury > Brother / mars > Guru/teacher / jupiter > Nature/snake / rahu > Monks / ketu > Poor / saturn > Wife or husband / venus > > Hope the above helps. > > Thanks. Rgds > Anand > > > > " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster > 15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 > To:,<vedic astrology > > Curses > > Dear astrlogers, > Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali? > I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied? > Dennis > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Om namah shivaya Dear krishna ji, My first guru says so and I trust him. I also learnt these from sjc. Do agree with you bphs speaks in different way. I have been reading your mails at sjc with great interest. Esp on jeniffer lopez. Thanks for all your inputs. Rgds Anand -- Krishnamurthy Seetharama Sender: Reply Apr 16, 2007 17:35 Re: Curses Dear Anand, Is there any classical reference for these curses that you have defined. I know this has been extensively taught in SJC circles. However, what is covered under curses in BHPS is totally different, hence my question. Regards, Krishna --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004@: <anandravi2004%40> > wrote: > Om namah shivaya > > Dear dennis, > > Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. > There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see > which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. > > When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother > from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following: > > Curses / planets affected > Father / sun > Mother / moon > Sister / venus > Uncle / mercury > Brother / mars > Guru/teacher / jupiter > Nature/snake / rahu > Monks / ketu > Poor / saturn > Wife or husband / venus > > Hope the above helps. > > Thanks. Rgds > Anand > > > > " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster@: <mprgrandmaster%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com> > 15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 > To:<@: <%40> >,<vedic astrology@: <vedic astrology%40> > > Curses > > Dear astrlogers, > Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali? > I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Om namah shivaya Dear bobby ji, This is some what controversial but I follow. Rgds Anand -- Bobby Mehrotra Sender: Reply Apr 16, 2007 17:36 Re: Curses Dear Anandji I am a beginner in astrology. Is it true that Rahu and Ketu do not have aspects or is it a different school of thought. I write this because you ahve mentioned that Rahu, Ketu along with Jupiter aspect 5H and 9H. Regards Bobby Anand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote: Om namah shivaye Dear dennis, When I say malefic, its natural malefics (sun, moon - kirshna paksha, mars, saturn, rahu and ketu). Mercury can be benefic or malefic depending on the conjunction. All planets aspects 7th house from their position. This is called gharga drishti. Other than this some planets do have special aspects, as below Rahu and ketu : 5 and 9 house Jupiter : 5 and 9 house Saturn : 3 and 10 house Mars : 4 and 8 house From their position. Rgds Anand " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster@: <mprgrandmaster%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com> 16 Apr 2007 01:25:03 To:<@: <%40> > Re: Curses  Jai Shri Mataji! Thanks for the great advised received from all of you:-) I have a question:When you say " malefic planets " ,you mean the naturals malefics (Saturn ,Sun, Mars, weak Moon and Mercury) or planets who are badly placed and thus become malefic? Regards, Denis  - Anand Ravi: <anandravi2004@: <anandravi2004%40> > @: <@: <%40> > Monday, April 16, 2007 9:29 AM Re: Curses Om namah shivaya Dear dennis, Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following: Curses / planets affected Father / sun Mother / moon Sister / venus Uncle / mercury Brother / mars Guru/teacher / jupiter Nature/snake / rahu Monks / ketu Poor / saturn Wife or husband / venus Hope the above helps. Thanks. Rgds Anand " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster@: <mprgrandmaster%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com> 15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 To:<@: <%40> >,<vedic astrology@: <vedic astrology%40> > Curses Dear astrlogers, Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali? I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied? Dennis ---------------- Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger: <http://us.rd./mail/in/ymessenger/*http://in.messenger./> Messages in this topic : </message/1706;_ylc=X3oDMTM1aG41a3J0B\ F9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARtc2dJZAMxNzE1BHNlY\ wNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE3NjcyNTE4NQR0cGNJZAMxNzA2> (0) : </post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxOTF2c2F2BF9TAzk3M\ zU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARtc2dJZAMxNzE1BHNlYwNmdHIEc\ 2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE3NjcyNTE4NQ--?act=reply & messageNum=1715> Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic : </post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcmpiY2FrBF9TAzk3M\ zU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0a\ W1lAzExNzY3MjUxODU-> Messages: </messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbzFocm1rBF9TA\ zk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzB\ HN0aW1lAzExNzY3MjUxODU-> : </;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcXQ3b2oyBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE4NzAwM\ TY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTE3NjcyNTE4NQ--> Change settings via the Web: </join;_ylc=X3oDMTJnZjd2ZGVzBF9TAzk3N\ Dc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE4NzAwMTY5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNzdG5ncwRzd\ GltZQMxMTc2NzI1MTg1> ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest: <-digest ?subject=Email Delivery: Digest> | Switch format to Traditional: <-traditional ?subject=Change Delivery Format: Traditional> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear Anand, Actually, I have also learnt it through Vistiji's lectures (mp3s). I am not sure if this is based on parampara teachings at SJC or based on any classic text. May I know who is your first Guru? And, thanks for your kind words about my mails at SJC. Regards, Krishna --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote: > Om namah shivaya > > Dear krishna ji, > > My first guru says so and I trust him. I also learnt these > from sjc. > > Do agree with you bphs speaks in different way. > > I have been reading your mails at sjc with great interest. Esp > on jeniffer lopez. Thanks for all your inputs. > > Rgds > Anand > -- > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > Sender: > > Reply > Apr 16, 2007 17:35 > Re: Curses > > Dear Anand, > > Is there any classical reference for these curses that you > have > defined. I know this has been extensively taught in SJC > circles. > However, what is covered under curses in BHPS is totally > different, hence my question. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004@: > <anandravi2004%40> > wrote: > > > Om namah shivaya > > > > Dear dennis, > > > > Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or > rasi. > > There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to > see > > which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. > > > > When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of > mother > > from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the > following: > > > > Curses / planets affected > > Father / sun > > Mother / moon > > Sister / venus > > Uncle / mercury > > Brother / mars > > Guru/teacher / jupiter > > Nature/snake / rahu > > Monks / ketu > > Poor / saturn > > Wife or husband / venus > > > > Hope the above helps. > > > > Thanks. Rgds > > Anand > > > > > > > > " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster@: > <mprgrandmaster%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com> > > 15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 > > > To:<@: <%40> > >,<vedic astrology@: > <vedic astrology%40> > > > Curses > > > > Dear astrlogers, > > Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther > kundali? > > I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remed > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Thank you Sir.Anand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote: Om namah shivayaDear bobby ji,This is some what controversial but I follow.RgdsAnand--Bobby MehrotraSender: To: Reply Sent: Apr 16, 2007 17:36Re: CursesDear Anandji I am a beginner in astrology. Is it true that Rahu and Ketu do not have aspects or is it a different school of thought. I write this because you ahve mentioned that Rahu, Ketu along with Jupiter aspect 5H and 9H. Regards BobbyAnand Ravi wrote: Om namah shivaye Dear dennis, When I say malefic, its natural malefics (sun, moon - kirshna paksha, mars, saturn, rahu and ketu). Mercury can be benefic or malefic depending on the conjunction. All planets aspects 7th house from their position. This is called gharga drishti. Other than this some planets do have special aspects, as below Rahu and ketu : 5 and 9 house Jupiter : 5 and 9 house Saturn : 3 and 10 house Mars : 4 and 8 house From their position. Rgds Anand "Dennis" hotmail.com> 16 Apr 2007 01:25:03 > Re: Curses  Jai Shri Mataji!Thanks for the great advised received from all of you:-) I have a question:When you say "malefic planets" ,you mean the naturals malefics (Saturn ,Sun, Mars, weak Moon and Mercury) or planets who are badly placed and thus become malefic?Regards, Denis  - Anand Ravi: > @: > Monday, April 16, 2007 9:29 AM Re: Curses Om namah shivayaDear dennis,Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or rasi. There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to see which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies.When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of mother from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the following:Curses / planets affectedFather / sunMother / moonSister / venusUncle / mercuryBrother / marsGuru/teacher / jupiterNature/snake / rahuMonks / ketuPoor / saturnWife or husband / venusHope the above helps.Thanks. RgdsAnand"Dennis" hotmail.com>15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 >, > CursesDear astrlogers, Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther kundali?I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remedied?Dennis ----------------Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger: Messages in this topic : (0) : Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic : Messages: : Change settings via the Web: ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest: | Switch format to Traditional: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Om namah shivaya Dear krishna ji, pranams My first guru is my own father. He imparted the basic knowledge of jyotish to me. He learnt jyotish from his friend sometime in early 1972. My father is no way connected to sjc and I don't no about his friend. I feel this is more of the prampara and not related to any classics. Have you gone thru the website of Sarbani ji, she also had written on this subject. But her's is more from the classics. I will dig for more information on this and keep you posted if I find something and you also please do the same. Thanks. Rgds Anand Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 16 Apr 2007 07:56:14 Re: Curses Dear Anand, Actually, I have also learnt it through Vistiji's lectures (mp3s). I am not sure if this is based on parampara teachings at SJC or based on any classic text. May I know who is your first Guru? And, thanks for your kind words about my mails at SJC. Regards, Krishna --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004@: <anandravi2004%40> > wrote: > Om namah shivaya > > Dear krishna ji, > > My first guru says so and I trust him. I also learnt these > from sjc. > > Do agree with you bphs speaks in different way. > > I have been reading your mails at sjc with great interest. Esp > on jeniffer lopez. Thanks for all your inputs. > > Rgds > Anand > -- > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > Sender: @: <%40> > @: <%40> > Reply@: <%40> > Apr 16, 2007 17:35 > Re: Curses > > Dear Anand, > > Is there any classical reference for these curses that you > have > defined. I know this has been extensively taught in SJC > circles. > However, what is covered under curses in BHPS is totally > different, hence my question. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004@: > <anandravi2004%40> > wrote: > > > Om namah shivaya > > > > Dear dennis, > > > > Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or > rasi. > > There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to > see > > which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. > > > > When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of > mother > > from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the > following: > > > > Curses / planets affected > > Father / sun > > Mother / moon > > Sister / venus > > Uncle / mercury > > Brother / mars > > Guru/teacher / jupiter > > Nature/snake / rahu > > Monks / ketu > > Poor / saturn > > Wife or husband / venus > > > > Hope the above helps. > > > > Thanks. Rgds > > Anand > > > > > > > > " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster@: > <mprgrandmaster%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com> > > 15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 > > > To:<@: <%40> > >,<vedic astrology@: > <vedic astrology%40> > > > Curses > > > > Dear astrlogers, > > Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther > kundali? > > I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remed > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna: <http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com> .blogspot.com http://mail.: <> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear Anand, Sure. You could please drop 'ji' when you address me as we are all students here. Regards, Krishna --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote: > Om namah shivaya > > Dear krishna ji, pranams > > My first guru is my own father. He imparted the basic > knowledge of jyotish to me. He learnt jyotish from his friend > sometime in early 1972. My father is no way connected to sjc > and I don't no about his friend. I feel this is more of the > prampara and not related to any classics. Have you gone thru > the website of Sarbani ji, she also had written on this > subject. But her's is more from the classics. > > I will dig for more information on this and keep you posted if > I find something and you also please do the same. > > Thanks. Rgds > Anand > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > 16 Apr 2007 07:56:14 > > Re: Curses > > Dear Anand, > > Actually, I have also learnt it through Vistiji's lectures > (mp3s). I am not sure if this is based on parampara teachings > at > SJC or based on any classic text. > > May I know who is your first Guru? > > And, thanks for your kind words about my mails at SJC. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004@: > <anandravi2004%40> > wrote: > > > Om namah shivaya > > > > Dear krishna ji, > > > > My first guru says so and I trust him. I also learnt these > > from sjc. > > > > Do agree with you bphs speaks in different way. > > > > I have been reading your mails at sjc with great interest. > Esp > > on jeniffer lopez. Thanks for all your inputs. > > > > Rgds > > Anand > > -- > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > Sender: @: > <%40> > > @: > <%40> > > Reply@: > <%40> > > Apr 16, 2007 17:35 > > Re: Curses > > > > Dear Anand, > > > > Is there any classical reference for these curses that you > > have > > defined. I know this has been extensively taught in SJC > > circles. > > However, what is covered under curses in BHPS is totally > > different, hence my question. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > --- Anand Ravi <anandravi2004@: > > <anandravi2004%40> > wrote: > > > > > Om namah shivaya > > > > > > Dear dennis, > > > > > > Curse happens when 2 or more malefic aspects a planet or > > rasi. > > > There can be more than one curse in a chart. You need to > > see > > > which one gives worst suffering before giving remedies. > > > > > > When moon is the planet of curse - this means curse of > > mother > > > from the past birth. Curses can be from any of the > > following: > > > > > > Curses / planets affected > > > Father / sun > > > Mother / moon > > > Sister / venus > > > Uncle / mercury > > > Brother / mars > > > Guru/teacher / jupiter > > > Nature/snake / rahu > > > Monks / ketu > > > Poor / saturn > > > Wife or husband / venus > > > > > > Hope the above helps. > > > > > > Thanks. Rgds > > > Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster@: > > <mprgrandmaster%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com> > > > 15 Apr 2007 21:59:37 > > > > > To:<@: > <%40> > > >,<vedic astrology@: > > <vedic astrology%40> > > > > Curses > > > > > > Dear astrlogers, > > > Can you explain the topic of curses as seen in ther > > kundali? > > > I am expecialy interested on the Moon. How are the remed > > > > > > Regards, > Krishna > http://astrokrishna: <http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com> > .blogspot.com > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > around > http://mail.: <> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Hi Rafal, I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple of a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard this before. You response will be appreciated. Regards, Mike , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Mike , Namaskar > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my DEVATAS > pdf FILE on my site (compilations). > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a): > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet should be > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give some > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not Lakshmi for > > Venus and Durga for Saturn. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Hi Rafal, I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant the Bhargava mantra. One more query. In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets even when it is a yogakarak. What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime. Thanks and regards, Mike , " mikefranc01 " <michael.travass wrote: > > Hi Rafal, > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple of > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard this > before. > You response will be appreciated. > Regards, > Mike > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Mike , Namaskar > > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my > DEVATAS > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations). > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a): > > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet should > be > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give > some > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not > Lakshmi for > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Mike, Namaskar 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer to prayadi deva of bhava karaka. 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed planets. If its in chara rasi then its easy to remove the blemish. 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal mikefranc01 napisał(a): Hi Rafal, I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant the Bhargava mantra. One more query. In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets even when it is a yogakarak. What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime. Thanks and regards, Mike , "mikefranc01" <michael.travass wrote: > > Hi Rafal, > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple of > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard this > before. > You response will be appreciated. > Regards, > Mike > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Mike , Namaskar > > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my > DEVATAS > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations). > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a): > > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet should > be > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give > some > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not > Lakshmi for > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Rafal, Thanks for your response. 1. Did you mean the bhava house mulitplied by 1008. So for example if the curse is in the 4th bhava does it mean 4008 times. And is this to be said at the rate of 108 per day till you reach 1008. This means only 37 days which is shorter than the 40 days. 2. I wanted to knwo what actually happens when one prays to teh Guru Rupa of the planet. Is the curse eliminated or notigated. Regards, Mike , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Mike, Namaskar > > 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer > to prayadi deva of bhava karaka. > > 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed planets. If its in chara rasi then > its easy to remove the blemish. > > 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a): > > > > Hi Rafal, > > > > I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant > > the Bhargava mantra. > > > > One more query. > > > > In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a > > badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one > > still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen > > people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets > > even when it is a yogakarak. > > > > What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is > > the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long > > one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > <%40>, " mikefranc01 " > > <michael.travass@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rafal, > > > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have > > > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple > > of > > > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard > > this > > > before. > > > You response will be appreciated. > > > Regards, > > > Mike > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Mike , Namaskar > > > > > > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my > > > DEVATAS > > > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet > > should > > > be > > > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give > > > some > > > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not > > > Lakshmi for > > > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dear Rafal, One more query regarding curses, is there any situation where instead of the guru rupa of dipositor or pratyadi devata rupa of karaka we advise a mahavidya mantra? Like for venus curse kamalatmika? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass wrote: Rafal,Thanks for your response. 1. Did you mean the bhava house mulitplied by 1008. So for example if the curse is in the 4th bhava does it mean 4008 times. And is this to be said at the rate of 108 per day till you reach 1008. This means only 37 days which is shorter than the 40 days.2. I wanted to knwo what actually happens when one prays to teh Guru Rupa of the planet. Is the curse eliminated or notigated.Regards,Mike , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Mike, Namaskar> > 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer > to prayadi deva of bhava karaka.> > 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed planets. If its in chara rasi then > its easy to remove the blemish.> > 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> >> > Hi Rafal,> >> > I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant> > the Bhargava mantra.> >> > One more query.> >> > In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a> > badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one> > still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen> > people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets> > even when it is a yogakarak.> >> > What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is> > the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long> > one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > Mike> >> > > > <%40>, "mikefranc01"> > <michael.travass@> wrote:> > >> > > Hi Rafal,> > > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have> > > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple> > of> > > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard> > this> > > before.> > > You response will be appreciated.> > > Regards,> > > Mike> > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > Dear Mike , Namaskar> > > >> > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my> > > DEVATAS> > > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@> > > >> > > >> > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > Hi Rafael,> > > > >> > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet> > should> > > be> > > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give> > > some> > > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not> > > Lakshmi for> > > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Mike> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar For neecha planets and those in forth bhava from Lagna, AK, KK, 6 from Amk.... Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal rajarshi nandy napisał(a): Dear Rafal, One more query regarding curses, is there any situation where instead of the guru rupa of dipositor or pratyadi devata rupa of karaka we advise a mahavidya mantra? Like for venus curse kamalatmika? -Regards Rajarshi mikefranc01 <michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote: Rafal, Thanks for your response. 1. Did you mean the bhava house mulitplied by 1008. So for example if the curse is in the 4th bhava does it mean 4008 times. And is this to be said at the rate of 108 per day till you reach 1008. This means only 37 days which is shorter than the 40 days. 2. I wanted to knwo what actually happens when one prays to teh Guru Rupa of the planet. Is the curse eliminated or notigated. Regards, Mike , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Mike, Namaskar > > 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer > to prayadi deva of bhava karaka. > > 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed planets. If its in chara rasi then > its easy to remove the blemish. > > 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a): > > > > Hi Rafal, > > > > I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant > > the Bhargava mantra. > > > > One more query. > > > > In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a > > badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one > > still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen > > people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets > > even when it is a yogakarak. > > > > What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is > > the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long > > one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > <%40>, "mikefranc01" > > <michael.travass@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rafal, > > > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have > > > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple > > of > > > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard > > this > > > before. > > > You response will be appreciated. > > > Regards, > > > Mike > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Mike , Namaskar > > > > > > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my > > > DEVATAS > > > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet > > should > > > be > > > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give > > > some > > > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not > > > Lakshmi for > > > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Dear Rafal, Thanks a lot. Understood. -Regards RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajarishi , NamaskarFor neecha planets and those in forth bhava from Lagna, AK, KK, 6 from Amk....Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Rafal, One more query regarding curses, is there any situation where instead of the guru rupa of dipositor or pratyadi devata rupa of karaka we advise a mahavidya mantra? Like for venus curse kamalatmika? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote: Rafal,Thanks for your response. 1. Did you mean the bhava house mulitplied by 1008. So for example if the curse is in the 4th bhava does it mean 4008 times. And is this to be said at the rate of 108 per day till you reach 1008. This means only 37 days which is shorter than the 40 days.2. I wanted to knwo what actually happens when one prays to teh Guru Rupa of the planet. Is the curse eliminated or notigated.Regards,Mike , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Mike, Namaskar> > 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer > to prayadi deva of bhava karaka.> > 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed planets. If its in chara rasi then > its easy to remove the blemish.> > 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> >> > Hi Rafal,> >> > I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant> > the Bhargava mantra.> >> > One more query.> >> > In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a> > badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one> > still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen> > people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets> > even when it is a yogakarak.> >> > What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is> > the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long> > one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > Mike> >> > > > <%40>, "mikefranc01"> > <michael.travass@> wrote:> > >> > > Hi Rafal,> > > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have> > > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple> > of> > > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard> > this> > > before.> > > You response will be appreciated.> > > Regards,> > > Mike> > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > Dear Mike , Namaskar> > > >> > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my> > > DEVATAS> > > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@> > > >> > > >> > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > Hi Rafael,> > > > >> > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet> > should> > > be> > > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give> > > some> > > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not> > > Lakshmi for> > > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Mike> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. What is your Emotional Quotient? Find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dear Rajarshi, Namskar. Please clarify the difference between Curses and Bondage (Shaapa & Bandh). It's urgent. Please. What is theory behind it? Thanks with best regards, Mrs. Sunita. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:03:12 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Curses Dear Rafal, Thanks a lot. Understood. -Regards RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajarishi , NamaskarFor neecha planets and those in forth bhava from Lagna, AK, KK, 6 from Amk....Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Rafal, One more query regarding curses, is there any situation where instead of the guru rupa of dipositor or pratyadi devata rupa of karaka we advise a mahavidya mantra? Like for venus curse kamalatmika? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com> wrote: Rafal,Thanks for your response. 1. Did you mean the bhava house mulitplied by 1008.. So for example if the curse is in the 4th bhava does it mean 4008 times. And is this to be said at the rate of 108 per day till you reach 1008. This means only 37 days which is shorter than the 40 days.2. I wanted to knwo what actually happens when one prays to teh Guru Rupa of the planet. Is the curse eliminated or notigated.Regards,Mike, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Mike, Namaskar> > 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer > to prayadi deva of bhava karaka.> > 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed planets. If its in chara rasi then > its easy to remove the blemish.> > 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> >> > Hi Rafal,> >> > I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant> > the Bhargava mantra.> >> > One more query.> >> > In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a> > badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one> > still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen> > people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets> > even when it is a yogakarak.> >> > What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is> > the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long> > one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > Mike> >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, "mikefranc01"> > <michael.travass@ > wrote:> > >> > > Hi Rafal,> > > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have> > > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple> > of> > > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard> > this> > > before.> > > You response will be appreciated.> > > Regards,> > > Mike> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > Dear Mike , Namaskar> > > >> > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my> > > DEVATAS> > > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations) .> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@> > > >> > > >> > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > Hi Rafael,> > > > >> > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet> > should> > > be> > > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give> > > some> > > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not> > > Lakshmi for> > > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Mike> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. What is your Emotional Quotient? Find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dear Sunita, As far as my little knowledge goes, a saap is a curse or rather a reaction that you have to face because of some negative action that you may have commited knowlingly or unknowling. For example, you cheat someone now, that creates a feeling of shock or sorrow or anger or maybe all 3 combined together, and the basic law of the universe demands that the same be given back to you in a different life or maybe in the same. That is a shaapa. It does not necessarily have to be someone actually saying out.."therefore I curse you..." like in the average bollywood serials we see on tv. Bondhage is well, bondage. Being tied down. Generally equal number of planets in 2,12 or 5,9 etc houses can result in bandhana for the person. See the chart of nelson mandela to get a better understanding. This can lead to physical bondage as well. The place of bondage can be seen from the rasis involved, and the planets can indicate the nature of bondage. Like scorpio can indicate being held in an underground area. Now planets and sepcially malefics in 12th from AK in rasi are the cause of bondage in life. Just like 12th from ak in navamsa is liberation. A malefic here can lead a person to jail. Generally I believe bondage should be treated as keeping someone confined in a place against their will, by force or by circumstance. In this regarding, Visti mentions in his book and i have seen it working is lots of charts, AK combined by shani or nodes or a malefic mars creates "feeling" of being held down, like bondage. This is w.r.t to the area where the combinatin manifests. Like I have rahu (ak) with mars and shani in my tenth, and there is nothing I hate more than going to office daily. To escape frmo bondage, Shiva needs to be propitiated along with chanting of the specific beejas for the atmalinga that suits the chart. And pray to him with the five types of items namely, flower, sweets, dhoop, water, and diya. Thats pretty much what I understand from the two terms. -Regards Rajarshi Sunita Joshi <sunita_joshi07 wrote: Dear Rajarshi, Namskar. Please clarify the difference between Curses and Bondage (Shaapa & Bandh). It's urgent. Please. What is theory behind it? Thanks with best regards, Mrs. Sunita. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:03:12 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Curses Dear Rafal, Thanks a lot. Understood. -Regards RajarshiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajarishi , NamaskarFor neecha planets and those in forth bhava from Lagna, AK, KK, 6 from Amk....Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Rafal, One more query regarding curses, is there any situation where instead of the guru rupa of dipositor or pratyadi devata rupa of karaka we advise a mahavidya mantra? Like for venus curse kamalatmika? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com> wrote: Rafal,Thanks for your response. 1. Did you mean the bhava house mulitplied by 1008.. So for example if the curse is in the 4th bhava does it mean 4008 times. And is this to be said at the rate of 108 per day till you reach 1008. This means only 37 days which is shorter than the 40 days.2. I wanted to knwo what actually happens when one prays to teh Guru Rupa of the planet. Is the curse eliminated or notigated.Regards,Mike, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Mike, Namaskar> > 1. Badhakesh is not bad if its in subha yoga, otherwise you should refer > to prayadi deva of bhava karaka.> > 2.It depends on rasi / amsa of cursed planets. If its in chara rasi then > its easy to remove the blemish.> > 3. One should make the ammount based on the bhava * 1008.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> >> > Hi Rafal,> >> > I have the answer for the Guru Rupa of Venus. I understand you meant> > the Bhargava mantra.> >> > One more query.> >> > In the curse situation if the dipositor of the cursed planet is a> > badhaka and a yoga karaka ( and well placed in the chart), does one> > still chant the mantra of the Guru Rupa of the dipositor. I have seen> > people facing problems after wearing gemstones of badhaka planets> > even when it is a yogakarak.> >> > What actually happens when one prays to the dipositor lord. How is> > the curse mitigated? Is the curse mitigated or eliminated. How long> > one has to say the mantras. I was told for the lifetime.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > Mike> >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, "mikefranc01"> > <michael.travass@ > wrote:> > >> > > Hi Rafal,> > > I saw your site and this is my understanding. For Venus you have> > > stated Brghu and for Saturn various Gurus. Can you give an exmaple> > of> > > a mantra for Brghu. Is this a Sanskrit term? I have never heard> > this> > > before.> > > You response will be appreciated.> > > Regards,> > > Mike> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > Dear Mike , Namaskar> > > >> > > > Every planet symbolize some Guru devata which you can find in my> > > DEVATAS> > > > pdf FILE on my site (compilations) .> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@> > > >> > > >> > > > mikefranc01 napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > Hi Rafael,> > > > >> > > > > You have stated that the Guru Rupa of the dipositor planet> > should> > > be> > > > > worshipped for curses. What does Guru Rupa mean? Could you give> > > some> > > > > example for Venus and Saturn. I am presuming that it is not> > > Lakshmi for> > > > > Venus and Durga for Saturn.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Mike> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. What is your Emotional Quotient? Find out. "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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