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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

 

In a message dated 99-11-25 18:58:29 EST, Teri writes:

 

> My name is Teri. I am 36 and live in the Dallas area. I have always been

> interested in Astrology, and Sidereal astrology seems rather interesting

but

> to be honest, I am a bit confused at the difference.

 

The Tropical Zodiac determines one's " sign " by the sun's distance from the

Northern Hemisphere's Vernal Equinox point when the person was born. For

example, if you're born on or no more than thirty days after the Vernal

Equinox, you're an Aries.

 

The Sidereal Zodiac instead uses the constellation the sun was in at the

birthtime.

 

The difference between the two zodiacs comes from the fact that the Equinox

points move backward through the zodiacal constellations. When Ptolemy

invented the Tropical Zodiac, the Northern Hemisphere's Vernal Equinox point

was at 0*0'0 " Sidereal Aries. But, unfortunately for Ptolemy, it kept

moving, and now it's in Pisces -- hence the term " Age of Pisces " .

 

Ptolemy also didn't know about the Southern hemisphere -- and would have

looked at you as if you were stupid if you could go back in time and tell him

about it. This brings me to another one of my objections to the Tropical

Zodiac -- why doesn't it recognize the different seasons on either side of

the equator? If a person born on December 25th north of the equator is a

Capricorn because they were born in early winter, shouldn't someone born in

Australia on 12/25 be a Cancer?

 

A child who was born today is a Sagittarius, according to the Tropical

zodiac. But that child's sun was close to the longitude of Antares, the

bright red star in Scorpio. So, to us Siderealists, the kid's a Scorpio. In

two thousand years or so, a child born on today's date won't have a sun near

Antares, but to the Tropicalists, the sun will always be in the sign of

Sagittarius in late November.

 

>I am an Aries sun sign

> and fairly true to it, so does this mean that this is different somehow?

Any

> simple explanations would be greatly appreciated........)

 

1) You may be Aries according to both zodiacs -- someone who's Tropical Sun

is 25* or more in that sign is 0*-5* in the Sidereal constellation.

 

2) You may have a strong Sun-Mars aspect.

 

3) You may have an angular Mars.

 

4) Your Mars may act on your Sun-Moon midpoint.

 

> Hope everyone had a fantastic Thanksgiving. I am still VERY full at the

> moment.

 

I did, and I'm glad you did too!

 

Love is the law, love under will.

 

Later,

Kevin/Baraka

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Good Day,

I just wrote and realized that I didnt say anything

about myself... I was born 10/31/1958 10:54.27 P.M.

Detroit MI @Sianai Hospital. I am 41, female, live in

the Lake Tahoe area on the California side, (Just

barely) I use Win*star plus, Win*Star Plus version 2,

 

Goravani, and Parashna's Light. Different things for

different things. I am NOT professional. though I

live with a man who is darn good at reading... I am

here to learn.

MaryANn

I am looking forward to this group.

 

--- Aumgn93 wrote:

> Aumgn93

>

> Good evening, everyone.

>

> Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

>

> In a message dated 99-11-25 18:58:29 EST, Teri

> writes:

>

> > My name is Teri. I am 36 and live in the Dallas

> area. I have always been

> > interested in Astrology, and Sidereal astrology

> seems rather interesting

> but

> > to be honest, I am a bit confused at the

> difference.

>

> The Tropical Zodiac determines one's " sign " by the

> sun's distance from the

> Northern Hemisphere's Vernal Equinox point when the

> person was born. For

> example, if you're born on or no more than thirty

> days after the Vernal

> Equinox, you're an Aries.

>

> The Sidereal Zodiac instead uses the constellation

> the sun was in at the

> birthtime.

>

> The difference between the two zodiacs comes from

> the fact that the Equinox

> points move backward through the zodiacal

> constellations. When Ptolemy

> invented the Tropical Zodiac, the Northern

> Hemisphere's Vernal Equinox point

> was at 0*0'0 " Sidereal Aries. But, unfortunately

> for Ptolemy, it kept

> moving, and now it's in Pisces -- hence the term

> " Age of Pisces " .

>

> Ptolemy also didn't know about the Southern

> hemisphere -- and would have

> looked at you as if you were stupid if you could go

> back in time and tell him

> about it. This brings me to another one of my

> objections to the Tropical

> Zodiac -- why doesn't it recognize the different

> seasons on either side of

> the equator? If a person born on December 25th

> north of the equator is a

> Capricorn because they were born in early winter,

> shouldn't someone born in

> Australia on 12/25 be a Cancer?

>

> A child who was born today is a Sagittarius,

> according to the Tropical

> zodiac. But that child's sun was close to the

> longitude of Antares, the

> bright red star in Scorpio. So, to us Siderealists,

> the kid's a Scorpio. In

> two thousand years or so, a child born on today's

> date won't have a sun near

> Antares, but to the Tropicalists, the sun will

> always be in the sign of

> Sagittarius in late November.

>

> >I am an Aries sun sign

> > and fairly true to it, so does this mean that this

> is different somehow?

> Any

> > simple explanations would be greatly

> appreciated........)

>

> 1) You may be Aries according to both zodiacs --

> someone who's Tropical Sun

> is 25* or more in that sign is 0*-5* in the Sidereal

> constellation.

>

> 2) You may have a strong Sun-Mars aspect.

>

> 3) You may have an angular Mars.

>

> 4) Your Mars may act on your Sun-Moon midpoint.

>

> > Hope everyone had a fantastic Thanksgiving. I am

> still VERY full at the

> > moment.

>

> I did, and I'm glad you did too!

>

> Love is the law, love under will.

>

> Later,

> Kevin/Baraka

>

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At 09:59 PM 11/3/03 -0000, Chris wrote:

>Hi - my name's Chris Mitchell, and although I teach tropical astrology, I'm

>interested in learning more about other systems including sidereal astrology

>as practiced in the West, and Vedic.

 

Hi Chris,

 

Welcome to the list! It's been quiet here for awhile, but every so often we

get some interesting discussions going. I hope you'll be able to contribute

your ideas and learn something from being here.

 

Therese

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Hello from a new member:}

i've joined from reading Mark's post on the YoungAstro list.

I've been self-studying Astrology fairly intensively for about 2.5 years which i know makes me just about a rank newbie. Now i'm in the midst of an online course which i'm really enjoying. I know less than nothing about Jyotish but i have such a voracious hunger to learn Astrology, all kinds..Mark, is there a free download program you can recommend using Jyotish, or a site where i can have my chart made? i'm familiar with a lot of the possibilities for Western Tropical, of course, but not Jyotish. Thanks!

Rev. Owl

ps: after writing this, i looked over my Canopus program and discovered that it will make quite a few types of sidereal charts, incl Nakshatras. So that now puts me in the position of being able to see the chart, but still not understand {pulling hair:} i guess i must be in this group for a reason!:}

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"What you bring forth out of yourself from the inside will save you. What you do not bring forth out of yourself from the inside will destroy you."

 

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=an apt Pluto Retrograde quotation:}=

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"Play your way through this. It really is the key. When you follow your bliss it is always an easy journey." ==Abraham/Hicks 9/4/93

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At 04:52 PM 12/8/05 -0800,

> Greetings,

>

> My name is Todd Spencer and I am a student and initiate of the Golden

Dawn tradition. I have been a student of various occult traditions for

over twenty years now. I am currently at the point in my studies where I

need to become more proficient with astrology (both natal and electional)

and more particularly with the Sidereal system. I look forward to

learning a great deal here. Thank you for allowing me to participate in

this forum.

 

Hello

 

Welcome to the sidereal list! We have been very quiet lately, partly due to

myself as moderator not having time to spend on the forum. Please feel free

to scan past posts and choose topics that interest you. If you click on

'Messages,' and then 'Expand Messages,' you will have an entire page of

messages to scan at a time. There is so much variety that you will have to

pass over posts that may be too technical or may be confusing for you.

 

For a take on the sidereal signs, please check this site:

http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm

 

Please feel free to ask questions which I or others will try to answer for

you. Your name hasn't yet come up on the Member list, but when it does I'll

take you off moderation so there will be no delay in seeing your posts here.

 

Sincerely,

Therese

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Sherry,

You expect to know what is astrology. Well this is

fundmaentle question.

Since long ago say about more thant 1000's of years

humn being is trying to understand about human life?

and how it can be made utmost happy? but while actual

observations were made it was understood that none of

person is eqully happy. In fact many were found in

extreme sorrow and lots of people were enjoing life at

their own discrete. How ever upon continuous studies

some of the people who were dedicated to understand

society life they were puzzelled upon reading such

unertinty. As result they tried study why there are so

much of difference in person to person life? While

studing they tried to understand or rather tried to

evaluate resons and results of the human activities.

all such grate people are now called as " RISHIS " .

Bsically they are, Jaimitny, Parashar, varahmihir,

Sefarial, Hillah etc.

Upon sufficiant efforts made they successfylly

esablished co-relations between planatery palcement in

sky and effect of those on human being on earth.

Now I would state that the planetory placements in sky

are simply parametere for reading individual's life.

Basicaly they won't do direct effect on huma life but

they indicate what, how and when the native will enjoy

life? or when shall he face disasters?

This is similar to that like mercury in thermometer.

When you say that you feel feverish, the MERCURY only

indicates the temperature in your body. It is not a

result of applying thermometere in your body. Feeling

feverish is a result of your anti-health dids.

And now so as to go for advanein this study whatever

developments are taken place is known as astrology.

So as to be as sharp reading as possible charts and

houses concluded. If you really want to study this

scince you have to first heve concrete concept to

read/study human life thry the beetering point of view

not only from earning point of view. Now a days there

are so many branches developed and new concepts too

are developed for acheiving accuray in predictions.

Earning money is byproduct of this study.

 

Hope hat you are satified by this answer. If not don't

hasitate in writing again.

 

 

SANT GURUJI

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Sherry Bakko <sbakko wrote:

 

> I just joined the list to learn more about what

> JYOTISH is exactly. I have been reading a

> book and this person mentioned that you can ask a

> JYOTISH to do a chart and do

> something with the planets! I am sure I am not

> saying this right, but hope someone

> knows what I am trying to say and might be willing

> to explain. I understand it is some sort

> of astrology - but not sure how it works.

>

> Sherry

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello Sherry,

 

A warm Welcome to the List.

 

The Jyotish or a Astrologer is a person who knows how to

study the configuration of the planets (the Map of the skies

above) at the birth moment of any person, and be able to

apply his studies to the human affairs to be faced by the

native in his course of life ahead.

This same Jyotish or Astrologer in English parlance,

can also be asked a question in absence of the birth

chart, and again the jyotish would do the same method,

ie.to check the planetary configurations at the moment

the query is replied, and state the results to the

querist. This is known as Horary astrology.

 

The normal person cannot do anything with the planets,

except make it more favourable by listening to advice

of astrologer, or make it more inimcal in result giving,

by not paying heed to good advice from good astrologer.

 

And Do not worry about what is a right question or

wrong.None of us are authorised to be judgemental about

the same. Whoever of us who may be good in our respective

fields have become good,only by asking questions. So keep

comng back.

 

And thank You for joining the list.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Sherry Bakko " <sbakko wrote:

>

> I just joined the list to learn more about what JYOTISH is exactly.

I have been reading a

> book and this person mentioned that you can ask a JYOTISH to do a

chart and do

> something with the planets! I am sure I am not saying this right,

but hope someone

> knows what I am trying to say and might be willing to explain. I

understand it is some sort

> of astrology - but not sure how it works.

>

> Sherry

>