Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 it is my curiosity or one wave of mind thoughts--- which is the best positions of planets possible---or best birthchart---any one can draw it? is it with all planets exalted and which ascendent and etc.??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Dear Ram Ram, Dont know what to say. Even Shri Ramjis and Shri Krishnajis Kundli or Lord Jesus Christs Charts were not perfect. neither Harishchandra,Vikramadityas or Raja Dushyants. They all suffered inspite of their greatness. So how to create a perfect Kundli. Only the Original Godhead from where these incarnations come, can be perfect, but He is Perfect but what about His Kundli ? Would it be perfect ? Would not His horoscope also contain the creation of His, which is perfect, but what about the inhabitants inhabiting His creation ? Are they perfect ? No. So even His Chart would be a question mark . But again a chart is made for a birth.Is it not ? Someone who is already existing since eternal how can there be a chart for Him ? So we are back to square one. If even the charts of incarnations of God cannot be perfect then how can one even try to make one ? Actually strictly speaking no chart can be Perfect. Because in any chart there would be friendships and enemities between the planets for that particular chart. Apart from that, the natural Tamasic Grahas (Mars,Saturn,Rahu ,Ketu)would throw their influence on those houses they see, same with the balance planets so there is bound to be positive and negative effects both. Which again brings us to the law of duality. So how do we call a chart perfect or define perfectness ? Its just not possible. The members may throw some light here. regards, Bhaskar. , ram ram <ganapati10999 wrote: > > it is my curiosity or one wave of mind thoughts--- > > which is the best positions of planets possible---or best birthchart---any one can draw it? > > is it with all planets exalted and which ascendent and etc.??????? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Bhaskar wrote: >Actually strictly speaking no chart can be Perfect. >Because in any chart there would be friendships and >enemities between the planets for that particular chart. perfectly stated ! IMHO ~ Some parts in the chart are inherently in harmony and others by their very nature in conflict. My personal opinion is that we only know perfect by the lack thereof .... and we have a chart as a STARTING place in our life. No where is it written than we cannot work with, improve and overcome *everything* in our chart. It is just a matter of time, energy, and commitment. Trouble is we *all* have trouble finding the time and energy. This is why some people give up materials things because they take too much time away from the Spiritual. Some of the richest people in the world have an afflicted second house ... many millionaires with Saturn in second, etc. Yes, some charts are 'easy,' but what is that. One area? Have money and spiritual impoverished. People who have great Spiritual life never feel poor ... some get to where they don't feel a need for anything and have totally risen above their chart. Others have chose to manifest everything that they want, which is our birthright. It is fine to have everthing we want if it comes through a trust that the Universe co-create it with you. If we include Spirit in our path, then things seem to come to us a lot easier. Charts are good to tell us what others can see in us that we cannot see in ourselves so that we might work on that area if we chose. But there is nothing in a chart that cannot be overcome through work with Spirit. Certainly we will be affected at times by the transits, but forewarned is forearmed someone said. Just my two cents on it coming from the West. -- Cheers, Fay " Optimism is magic! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, You have already said a lot and what you have said makes perfect sense. Good and bad are two sides of a coin. We can not expect just one side to be there and not the other. I would say, a perfect chart is the one in which positives and negatives are equally balanced. Here, the individual will learn his lessons of life and also enjoy the fruits of his labour equally well. Regards, Krishna --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Ram Ram, > > Dont know what to say. > Even Shri Ramjis and Shri Krishnajis Kundli > or Lord Jesus Christs Charts were not perfect. > neither Harishchandra,Vikramadityas or > Raja Dushyants. > They all suffered inspite of their greatness. > So how to create a perfect Kundli. > Only the Original Godhead from where these incarnations > come, can be perfect, but He is Perfect > but what about His Kundli ? > Would it be perfect ? > Would not His horoscope also contain the > creation of His, which is perfect, > but what about the inhabitants inhabiting > His creation ? Are they perfect ? > No. So even His Chart would be a question mark . > But again a chart is made for a birth.Is it not ? > Someone who is already existing since eternal > how can there be a chart for Him ? > > So we are back to square one. > If even the charts of incarnations of God cannot be > perfect then how can one even try to make one ? > Actually strictly speaking no chart can be Perfect. > Because in any chart there would be friendships and > enemities between the planets for that particular chart. > Apart from that, the natural Tamasic Grahas > (Mars,Saturn,Rahu ,Ketu)would throw their > influence on those houses they see, same with > the balance planets so there is bound to be > positive and negative effects both. > Which again brings us to the law of duality. > > So how do we call a chart perfect > or define perfectness ? > Its just not possible. > The members may throw some > light here. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , ram ram > <ganapati10999 wrote: > > > > it is my curiosity or one wave of mind thoughts--- > > > > which is the best positions of planets possible---or best > birthchart---any one can draw it? > > > > is it with all planets exalted and which ascendent and > etc.??????? > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > around > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Fay wrote- //Some parts in the chart are inherently in harmony and others by their very nature in conflict.// Very true. //My personal opinion is that we only know perfect by the lack thereof .... and we have a chart as a STARTING place in our life.// Like a Manual for a complicated Cell phone. Its the starting place to complete the imperfectness existing within us. //No where is it written than we cannot work with, improve and overcome *everything* in our chart.// Ya. The truth is of course we can. //It is just a matter of time, energy, and commitment. Trouble is we *all* have trouble finding the time and energy. This is why some people give up materials things because they take too much time away from the Spiritual.// The realised do this. //Some of the richest people in the world have an afflicted second house ... many millionaires with Saturn in second, etc.// This is a fact. //Yes, some charts are 'easy,' but what is that. One area? Have money and spiritual impoverished. People who have great Spiritual life never feel poor ... some get to where they don't feel a need for anything and have totally risen above their chart.// Gain for one, Pain for one. //Others have chose to manifest everything that they want, which is our birthright. It is fine to have everthing we want if it comes through a trust that the Universe co-create it with you. If we include Spirit in our path, then things seem to come to us a lot easier. But there is nothing in a chart that cannot be overcome through work with Spirit.// The last two lines of the above para is The Commandment. //Certainly we will be affected at times by the transits, but forewarned is forearmed someone said.// Which is the purpose of Astrology actually. Well said Fay. Best wishes, Bhaskar. , Fay Kelley <iceisit wrote: > > Bhaskar wrote: > > >Actually strictly speaking no chart can be Perfect. > >Because in any chart there would be friendships and > >enemities between the planets for that particular chart. > > perfectly stated ! > > > IMHO ~ > Some parts in the chart are inherently in harmony > and others by their very nature in conflict. > > My personal opinion is that we only know perfect > by the lack thereof .... and we have a chart > as a STARTING place in our life. > > No where is it written than we cannot work > with, improve and overcome *everything* in > our chart. > > It is just a matter of time, energy, and > commitment. Trouble is we *all* have > trouble finding the time and energy. > This is why some people give up > materials things because they take > too much time away from the Spiritual. > > Some of the richest people in the world > have an afflicted second house ... many > millionaires with Saturn in second, etc. > > Yes, some charts are 'easy,' but what > is that. One area? Have money > and spiritual impoverished. People > who have great Spiritual life never feel > poor ... some get to where they don't > feel a need for anything and have > totally risen above their chart. > > Others have chose to manifest everything > that they want, which is our birthright. > It is fine to have everthing we want if > it comes through a trust that the > Universe co-create it with you. If > we include Spirit in our path, then things > seem to come to us a lot easier. > > Charts are good to tell us what others can > see in us that we cannot see in ourselves so > that we might work on that area if we chose. > > But there is nothing in a chart that cannot > be overcome through work with Spirit. > > Certainly we will be affected at times by > the transits, but forewarned is forearmed > someone said. > > Just my two cents on it coming from > the West. > > -- > Cheers, Fay > > " Optimism is magic! " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Bhaskar wrote: >Well said Fay. Awww shucks ... and back at ya. I was just inspired by what you had already written. -- Cheers, Fay " Optimism is magic! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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