Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Dear sir, Namaskar ! As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and would like to discuss my problem with you. My name is Vishal Mishra I am married this year on 26th January. My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place is Shamli (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is not at all respecting me. She has a very strong envious relation with me We had regular fights and twice she went home with her father. Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely to be converted into divorce I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and stay peacefully with my family respecting all. My wife's date of birth is 8 september 1982 and i am not very sure about time Please suggest what to do. Regards Vishal Message from the Moderator to Vishal- The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your message has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as this is a Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE MODERATOR HAS THE WILL TO PUBLISH THIS MY BELOW MESSAGE....!! I LEAVE IT TO GOD..SORRY TO MODERATOR Dear Vishal, I am not an astrologer, i also joined this group due to a similer problem with my socalled wife. she was with me for just 66 days and then went to her parents house with all the gold and now we have 11 months old a baby angel (Daughter)staying with her. My wife is highly money minded, nonemotional, care dammn for basic cultures/traditions etc. and so adamant. I am in debt, and now by the grace of god today only i got the job confirmation after goin thru emotional truma and six months jobless I don't think you will get any sort of relief/help/guidance here as i had also posted my situation here BUT no response. I think/assume most of the learned people/astrologers and Moderator here are using this fourum as Money Making tool and or just to discuss themselves to show-off. Not interested in common/needy visitiors problems. Indeed they are interested more in celebrity people like SACHIN TENDULKAR'S HOROSCOPE for example!!! i laugh at them when i see these type of people discuss such things in which neither Tendulkar is interested here in this forum nor he has requested anybody here!! really crazy people. Anyway now for your problem, file RCR in the family court immeditaly and wait for her response now-a-days it is quite common that, mostly educated, money minded women are filing cases against innocent men just to extorte money since they can not or don't want to adjust at husband's family and demanding and harrassing husband to live separately leaving his parents. Then start blaming age old mother/father and may file a false case of IPC 498a for more details and geniune help please visit www.498a.org www.mynation.net Regards Chandrashekhar " History Rising " nanna_id2006 If they really want to serve the society they should help those people who are needy so that, they get the god's blessing I think it is true in astrology also.... Ha if they want earn by their astro profession i totally agree with them let them create thier own website , and indicate the professional charges details in the Fourm , " vishal mishra " <thevishall wrote: > > Dear sir, > > Namaskar ! > > As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and would like > to discuss my problem with you. > > My name is Vishal Mishra > > I am married this year on 26th January. > > My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place is Shamli > (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh > > I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is not at > all respecting me. > > She has a very strong envious relation with me > > We had regular fights and twice she went home with her father. > > Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely to be > converted into divorce > > I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and stay > peacefully with my family respecting all. > > My wife's date of birth is 8 > september 1982 and i am not very sure about time > > Please suggest what to do. > > Regards > > Vishal > > Message from the Moderator to Vishal- > The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your message > has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as this is a Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Dear Chandraskekhar, Your Mail makes me sad. First of all let me bring to Your Notice, that the Moderator/Owner here with whom You are dealing is not a man of ordinary convictions. I will allow your post here than reply. This is what lions do, they dont brandish their sword in empty air after removing enemy from thr battle field. So do not worry about my Will. I am king with my Kingdom and without too . Its all in the attidue one has, and keeps, and acts. 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the 20th October , ie. about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few others before you too have not been replied ? So how can their help calls be surpassed and you replied before them. On what basis ? 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I do not think anyone has done so, and if it has been done without knowledge to me, then too what is the harm ? 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers are only for money? Did anyone approach You for money ? 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone tell you that you should not ask so many queries where services are being done for free without any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making tool is employed here which I am not aware, please make me aware. 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently then he has to buy someones time, after making payment of Consultation Charges. Did You do that ? Before demanding Urgent reply ? 6) First of all please let me know if any suggestion/direct/Indirect demand was made to You ever to pay money before You will recieve any reply ? Thorugh any communication from any astrologer here, in any form of Communication, whether, written, Verbal, telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal meeting ? 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are not connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any Fees , I first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important queries here which would be answered free , and not to waste their hard earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to this attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own family time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even friend astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business by way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation here? On what grounds ? On what base ? 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities horoscope ? 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but not even my family members know this, forget people or members of any forum, or any clients. Where and when have I invited people there, pray tell me ? 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes and only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If You want to know more, as You yourself advised you will be given detailed Charges for the same, but You will not need to do that I assure you. Because the 2 major queries take care of the smaller queries in most of the cases. Next time before putting anyone on the Cross, please hold for a moment and think. regards, Bhaskar. Owner/Co-Moderator. , " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006 wrote: > > > I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE MODERATOR HAS THE WILL TO PUBLISH THIS MY > BELOW MESSAGE....!! I LEAVE IT TO GOD..SORRY TO MODERATOR > > Dear Vishal, > > I am not an astrologer, i also joined this group due to a similer > problem with my socalled wife. she was with me for just 66 days and > then went to her parents house with all the gold and now we have 11 > months old a baby angel (Daughter)staying with her. My wife is highly > money minded, nonemotional, care dammn for basic cultures/traditions > etc. and so adamant. I am in debt, and now by the grace of god today > only i got the job confirmation after goin thru emotional truma and > six months jobless > > I don't think you will get any sort of relief/help/guidance here as i > had also posted my situation here BUT no response. I think/assume > most of the learned people/astrologers and Moderator here are using > this fourum as Money Making tool and or just to discuss themselves to > show-off. Not interested in common/needy visitiors problems. Indeed > they are interested more in celebrity people like SACHIN TENDULKAR'S > HOROSCOPE for example!!! i laugh at them when i see these type of > people discuss such things in which neither Tendulkar is interested > here in this forum nor he has requested anybody here!! really crazy > people. > > Anyway now for your problem, file RCR in the family court immeditaly > and wait for her response now-a-days it is quite common that, mostly > educated, money minded women are filing cases against innocent men > just to extorte money since they can not or don't want to adjust at > husband's family and demanding and harrassing husband to live > separately leaving his parents. Then start blaming age old > mother/father and may file a false case of IPC 498a for more details > and geniune help please visit www.498a.org www.mynation.net > > Regards > > Chandrashekhar > > " History Rising " > > nanna_id2006 > > > If they really want to serve the society they should help those > people who are needy so that, they get the god's blessing I think it > is true in astrology also.... Ha if they want earn by their astro > profession i totally agree with them let them create thier own > website , and indicate the professional charges details in the > Fourm > > > > > , " vishal mishra " > <thevishall@> wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > > > Namaskar ! > > > > As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and would like > > to discuss my problem with you. > > > > My name is Vishal Mishra > > > > I am married this year on 26th January. > > > > My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place is Shamli > > (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh > > > > I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is not at > > all respecting me. > > > > She has a very strong envious relation with me > > > > We had regular fights and twice she went home with her father. > > > > Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely to be > > converted into divorce > > > > I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and stay > > peacefully with my family respecting all. > > > > My wife's date of birth is 8 > > september 1982 and i am not very sure about time > > > > Please suggest what to do. > > > > Regards > > > > Vishal > > > > Message from the Moderator to Vishal- > > The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your message > > has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as this is a > Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 respected sir , i appreciate you for your good intent,kindness--- very few persons in the world are good hearted--- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Chandraskekhar, Your Mail makes me sad. First of all let me bring to Your Notice, that the Moderator/Owner here with whom You are dealing is not a man of ordinary convictions. I will allow your post here than reply. This is what lions do, they dont brandish their sword in empty air after removing enemy from thr battle field. So do not worry about my Will. I am king with my Kingdom and without too . Its all in the attidue one has, and keeps, and acts. 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the 20th October , ie. about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few others before you too have not been replied ? So how can their help calls be surpassed and you replied before them. On what basis ? 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I do not think anyone has done so, and if it has been done without knowledge to me, then too what is the harm ? 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers are only for money? Did anyone approach You for money ? 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone tell you that you should not ask so many queries where services are being done for free without any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making tool is employed here which I am not aware, please make me aware. 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently then he has to buy someones time, after making payment of Consultation Charges. Did You do that ? Before demanding Urgent reply ? 6) First of all please let me know if any suggestion/direct/Indirect demand was made to You ever to pay money before You will recieve any reply ? Thorugh any communication from any astrologer here, in any form of Communication, whether, written, Verbal, telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal meeting ? 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are not connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any Fees , I first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important queries here which would be answered free , and not to waste their hard earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to this attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own family time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even friend astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business by way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation here? On what grounds ? On what base ? 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities horoscope ? 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but not even my family members know this, forget people or members of any forum, or any clients. Where and when have I invited people there, pray tell me ? 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes and only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If You want to know more, as You yourself advised you will be given detailed Charges for the same, but You will not need to do that I assure you. Because the 2 major queries take care of the smaller queries in most of the cases. Next time before putting anyone on the Cross, please hold for a moment and think. regards, Bhaskar. Owner/Co-Moderator. , " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006 wrote: > > > I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE MODERATOR HAS THE WILL TO PUBLISH THIS MY > BELOW MESSAGE....!! I LEAVE IT TO GOD..SORRY TO MODERATOR > > Dear Vishal, > > I am not an astrologer, i also joined this group due to a similer > problem with my socalled wife. she was with me for just 66 days and > then went to her parents house with all the gold and now we have 11 > months old a baby angel (Daughter)staying with her. My wife is highly > money minded, nonemotional, care dammn for basic cultures/traditions > etc. and so adamant. I am in debt, and now by the grace of god today > only i got the job confirmation after goin thru emotional truma and > six months jobless > > I don't think you will get any sort of relief/help/guidance here as i > had also posted my situation here BUT no response. I think/assume > most of the learned people/astrologers and Moderator here are using > this fourum as Money Making tool and or just to discuss themselves to > show-off. Not interested in common/needy visitiors problems. Indeed > they are interested more in celebrity people like SACHIN TENDULKAR'S > HOROSCOPE for example!!! i laugh at them when i see these type of > people discuss such things in which neither Tendulkar is interested > here in this forum nor he has requested anybody here!! really crazy > people. > > Anyway now for your problem, file RCR in the family court immeditaly > and wait for her response now-a-days it is quite common that, mostly > educated, money minded women are filing cases against innocent men > just to extorte money since they can not or don't want to adjust at > husband's family and demanding and harrassing husband to live > separately leaving his parents. Then start blaming age old > mother/father and may file a false case of IPC 498a for more details > and geniune help please visit www.498a.org www.mynation.net > > Regards > > Chandrashekhar > > " History Rising " > > nanna_id2006 > > > If they really want to serve the society they should help those > people who are needy so that, they get the god's blessing I think it > is true in astrology also.... Ha if they want earn by their astro > profession i totally agree with them let them create thier own > website , and indicate the professional charges details in the > Fourm > > > > > , " vishal mishra " > <thevishall@> wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > > > Namaskar ! > > > > As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and would like > > to discuss my problem with you. > > > > My name is Vishal Mishra > > > > I am married this year on 26th January. > > > > My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place is Shamli > > (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh > > > > I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is not at > > all respecting me. > > > > She has a very strong envious relation with me > > > > We had regular fights and twice she went home with her father. > > > > Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely to be > > converted into divorce > > > > I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and stay > > peacefully with my family respecting all. > > > > My wife's date of birth is 8 > > september 1982 and i am not very sure about time > > > > Please suggest what to do. > > > > Regards > > > > Vishal > > > > Message from the Moderator to Vishal- > > The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your message > > has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as this is a > Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. > > > Want to start your own business? 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Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Chandu2chill wrote: > >I don't think you will get any sort of relief/help/guidance here as i >had also posted my situation here BUT no response. I think/assume >most of the learned people/astrologers and Moderator here are using >this fourum as Money Making tool and or just to discuss themselves to >show-off. Not interested in common/needy visitiors problems. If you believe that you are being treated unfairly you are free to just like any member of any group. If you didn't like your neighbors would you continue to go to their home and then complain while being a guest? Have you forgotten your manners in your desperation and forgot you are a guest here ??? Our list owner took the time to dig up Autobiography of a Yogi and publish the location of the entire book for free!!! Never mind the huge amount of hours he has donated for free to list members who never contribute in any way except to say " I want my problem solved. " I would suggest in your dis - ease that you find another list more to your liking and leave those of us who enjoy this forum in peace. Fay Kelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I am writing this below mail to you with due respect to you and your great astro knowledge. I was never intended nor have any intention to hurt you or anybody in this forum. " If God Did Not Forgive, Heaven Would Have Been Empty! " :-) I am a very small person infront of you. But i feel and think certainly has some right to protest/give opinion in this FREE Group being a Member of this group. Not as a guest. Hope you do agree on this. Dear Bhaskar Guruji, I appreciate your QUICK Reply to my posting on reality/truth in this forum what me and others (roughly 75% request for help/postings are not answered/replyed with geninue desire to help i have gone thru entire postings so far placed here i don't know about DELETED postings) have experienced in your esteemed group. Thank you for the same. Before going further, i would like to cut and paste some of your own Texts here and the mail exchange what we had earlier for your kind review. JYOTISH GANGA is a Forum created for You, devoted to discussions on chart reading, ie.Kundli (Horoscope Reading) and remedial measures there of to alleviate or reduce the sufferings of mankind. Nirayana (Vedic),Sayana (Western),and KP are the main schools which we will focus on over here, among others like Nadi, Lalkitab etc. Please feel Free to use this Forum as Your own platform to share views and also advise the Owner/Moderator on any changes required periodically. Your reply to my below mail. Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:36:38 IST Dear Chandrasekharji, Private Consultations are done only on payment of Consultation charges. But On my Forum its free, Please re-post your enquiry on my Forum as under- / regards, Bhaskar. Dear Bhaskarji, I am new to this forum and very much glad to see all senior/expert's advices here. Now I seek expert's advice to please help me & guide me with your Astrology knowledge..........Please My details: DOB: 10th Feb 1975 POB: Nargund Karnataka (nearest place Dharwad/Hubli) Time: 10:47 AM Karnataka India Birth Star: Shravana 2nd Paad Asc Lagna: Aries Birth Sign: Makara (as per Vedic Hindu Panchaang) Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House Capricorn (Mercury Retrograde) Saturn in 3rd House (Gemini) Retrograde Rahu is in 8th House Retrograde Ketu is in 2nd House Retrograde Present dasha: Guru Mahadasha Sub Period: Guru About my wife: DOB: 31st Aug 1980 Time: 2:45 AM Chitradurga Near Bangalore Karnataka India Birth Star: Bharani 2nd Paad Birth Sign: Aries Asc Lagna: Gemini (Mithun) Venus in 3rd house Problems: We lived together for JUST 66 Days!!after marriage, and now no communications at all since 1 Yr!! lot of diff of opinions. Will our marriage survive? Can we lead a married life together? when she will join me back? I want to start my own business either in India or in Dubai/Abu dhabi. But met with no success despite putting in efforts to start the venture. Will i succeed in my Business? i was working In Middle East (Dubai) but now no job at present I have lot of ambitions and wants to start my own business when will it happen? Now again i am planning to go for a Job abroad i,e in Middle East i was there for 5 Yrs. Soon after marriage troubles started with Career and as well as family life. I am in desparate help Please GUIDE me Appreciate your time Regards Chandrashekhar And now i will try to answer/clarify my THOUGHTS on your below queries. 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the 20th October , ie. about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few others before you too have not been replied ? So how can their help calls be surpassed and you replied before them. On what basis ? Guruji, you are writing this ONLY when i wrote reality/truth mail to you. And remember we had mail communication earlier to this why you didn't tell me about how many questions are free and how many are based on fee? 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I do not think anyone has done so, and if it has been done without knowledge to me, then too what is the harm ? I took his name as an example, and i have seen the same in one of the astro forum i will try to find-out and let u know. My apologies. My only intention was/is to let us discuss/help the needy people like me and you tell me why people come to you or to this forum? just they need some guidance/help from learned persons like you. I do agree that, there are some people who JUST want to do time-pass and pose crazy questions (as i saw one of your old post wherein u r saying the Delhi based lady asking for prediction of person who died 6 Yrs ago) 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers are only for money? Did anyone approach You for money ? I think your Immediate reply to my mail will answer this query. I am not agaist that, if i was in your position, i will also do the same. It is your profession and your own descretion to charge fee and you are free to do the same as everyone has the right to earn and live. But my ONLY sicere request is that, do it in a proper way. not like saying - this forum is free to discuss. if you want URGENT solution then you have to pay etc etc. EVEN I AGREE TO THIS AS WELL PROVIDED, IF YOU MENTION ON THE HOME PAGE OF THIS FOURUM So that, every visitor will know and can make decision of his/her own whether to join the group or not. 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone tell you that you should not ask so many queries where services are being done for free without any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making tool is employed here which I am not aware, please make me aware. No, Nobody told me and neither its mentioned anywhere in your group by the group owner. 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently then he has to buy someones time, after making payment of Consultation Charges. Did You do that ? Before demanding Urgent reply ? I was not aware of this hidden rule in this fourum and after receiveing your mail on 19th october 06 i came to know 6) First of all please let me know if any suggestion/direct/ Indirect demand was made to You ever to pay money before You will recieve any reply ? Thorugh any communication from any astrologer here, in any form of Communication, whether, written, Verbal, telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal meeting? Yes some of the group member did this to me but i don't want to make it as an issue since i said Ok bye and not interested in paid engagement. 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are not connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any Fees , I first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important queries here which would be answered free , and not to waste their hard earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to this attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own family time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even friend astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business by way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation here? On what grounds ? On what base ? Guruji, i really appreciate your effort and concern for serving people I don't want to comment on your yeilds what you got out of this forum. I CAN RIGHT AWAY START ONE MORE SIMILER GROUP FOR FREE CONSULTATION/DISCUSSION FOR NEEDY PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AN ASTROLOGER I CAN PULL LEARNED MEMBER LIKE YOU TO MY GROUP GRADUALLY IF NOT IMMEDIATELY. I HAVE STARTED TO LEARN ASTROLOGY BUT ON MY OWN PHASE... 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities horoscope? 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but not even my family members know this, forget people or members of any forum, or any clients. Where and when have I invited people there, pray tell me ? Guruji, no comments on the above but i think i saw your some reply in other sites such as audarya-fellowship or somthin let me check- out 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes and only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If You want to know more, as You yourself advised you will be given detailed Charges for the same, but You will not need to do that I assure you. Because the 2 major queries take care of the smaller queries in most of the cases. Looking forward to hearing from you sir. Sincerely, Chandrashekhar , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Chandraskekhar, > > Your Mail makes me sad. > First of all let me bring to Your Notice, that the Moderator/Owner > here with > whom You are dealing is not a man of ordinary convictions. I will > allow > your post here than reply. This is what lions do, they dont brandish > their sword in empty air after removing enemy from thr battle field. > So do not worry about my Will. I am king with my Kingdom and > without too . Its all in the attidue one has, and keeps, and acts. > > 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the 20th > October , ie. > about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few others before you too > have not been replied ? > So how can their help calls be surpassed and you replied before them. > On what basis ? > 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I do > not think > anyone has done so, and if it has been done without knowledge to me, > then too > what is the harm ? > 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers are > only for money? > Did anyone approach You for money ? > 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone tell > you that you should not > ask so many queries where services are being done for free without > any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making tool > is employed here which I am not aware, > please make me aware. > 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently then > he has to buy someones time, > after making payment of Consultation Charges. Did You do that ? > Before demanding Urgent reply ? > 6) First of all please let me know if any suggestion/direct/Indirect > demand was made to You ever > to pay money before You will recieve any reply ? Thorugh any > communication from > any astrologer here, in any form of Communication, whether, written, > Verbal, telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal meeting ? > 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are not > connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any Fees , I > first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important queries > here which would be answered free , and not to waste their hard > earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to this > attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own family > time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even friend > astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business by > way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation here? > On what grounds ? On what base ? > 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities horoscope ? > 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but not > even my family members know this, forget people or members of any > forum, or any clients. Where and when have > I invited people there, pray tell me ? > 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes and > only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If You > want to know more, as You yourself > advised you will be given detailed Charges for the same, but You will > not need to do that I assure you. Because the 2 major queries take > care of the smaller queries in most of the cases. > > Next time before putting anyone on the Cross, please hold for a > moment and think. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > Owner/Co-Moderator. > > > > > > , " Chandu2chill " > <nanna_id2006@> wrote: > > > > > > I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE MODERATOR HAS THE WILL TO PUBLISH THIS MY > > BELOW MESSAGE....!! I LEAVE IT TO GOD..SORRY TO MODERATOR > > > > Dear Vishal, > > > > I am not an astrologer, i also joined this group due to a similer > > problem with my socalled wife. she was with me for just 66 days and > > then went to her parents house with all the gold and now we have 11 > > months old a baby angel (Daughter)staying with her. My wife is > highly > > money minded, nonemotional, care dammn for basic > cultures/traditions > > etc. and so adamant. I am in debt, and now by the grace of god > today > > only i got the job confirmation after goin thru emotional truma and > > six months jobless > > > > I don't think you will get any sort of relief/help/guidance here as > i > > had also posted my situation here BUT no response. I think/assume > > most of the learned people/astrologers and Moderator here are using > > this fourum as Money Making tool and or just to discuss themselves > to > > show-off. Not interested in common/needy visitiors problems. Indeed > > they are interested more in celebrity people like SACHIN > TENDULKAR'S > > HOROSCOPE for example!!! i laugh at them when i see these type of > > people discuss such things in which neither Tendulkar is interested > > here in this forum nor he has requested anybody here!! really crazy > > people. > > > > Anyway now for your problem, file RCR in the family court > immeditaly > > and wait for her response now-a-days it is quite common that, > mostly > > educated, money minded women are filing cases against innocent men > > just to extorte money since they can not or don't want to adjust at > > husband's family and demanding and harrassing husband to live > > separately leaving his parents. Then start blaming age old > > mother/father and may file a false case of IPC 498a for more > details > > and geniune help please visit www.498a.org www.mynation.net > > > > Regards > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > " History Rising " > > > > nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > If they really want to serve the society they should help those > > people who are needy so that, they get the god's blessing I think > it > > is true in astrology also.... Ha if they want earn by their astro > > profession i totally agree with them let them create thier own > > website , and indicate the professional charges details in the > > Fourm > > > > > > > > > > , " vishal mishra " > > <thevishall@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > > > > Namaskar ! > > > > > > As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and would > like > > > to discuss my problem with you. > > > > > > My name is Vishal Mishra > > > > > > I am married this year on 26th January. > > > > > > My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place is > Shamli > > > (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh > > > > > > I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is not at > > > all respecting me. > > > > > > She has a very strong envious relation with me > > > > > > We had regular fights and twice she went home with her father. > > > > > > Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely to be > > > converted into divorce > > > > > > I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and stay > > > peacefully with my family respecting all. > > > > > > My wife's date of birth is 8 > > > september 1982 and i am not very sure about time > > > > > > Please suggest what to do. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Vishal > > > > > > Message from the Moderator to Vishal- > > > The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your message > > > has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as this is a > > Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Its a waste of precious time and mood spoilt by replying to such Mails. //I am a very small person infront of you. But i feel and think certainly has some right to protest/give opinion in this FREE Group being a Member of this group. Not as a guest. Hope you do agree on this.// No one is small and no one is big. We are all eternal brothers, sparks of the same Superconsciousness pervading all around. //I appreciate your QUICK Reply to my posting on reality/truth in this forum what me and others (roughly 75% request for help/postings are not answered/replyed with geninue desire to help i have gone thru entire postings so far placed here i don't know about DELETED postings) have experienced in your esteemed group. Thank you for the same.// I cannot understand how can you come to conclude that the replies are not made with genuine desire to help. Whate are the parameters for your judgement. Sometimes Members post the same message twice in succession, and when we realise that then that post is deleted so that not to take up unnecessary space. You are slapping the astrolger on the face by saying that the enquiries are not answered with genuine desire to help, which is absolutely untruth at least on this Forum. //Your reply to my below mail. Private Consultations are done only on payment of Consultation charges. But On my Forum its free, Please re-post your enquiry on my Forum as under- /// Have You not been asked to come on the Forum with your enquiry? Or have You been asked to pay ? //Guruji, you are writing this ONLY when i wrote reality/truth mail to you. And remember we had mail communication earlier to this why you didn't tell me about how many questions are free and how many are based on fee? // There is no such rule that so many are free and so many are payable. But as You say that You have read the entire mails on this Forum,you also must have realised by now that at times we have also replied to 3-4 queries at a time, and also at certain times, we have also given information unasked from the querist so that it would be useful to him. And if you have read the entire posts then we have mentioned at so many times that one should only post 2 important queries,otherwise the whole day is taken up by only 1 chart and the others are not given justice. I have to reply to at least 60 Mails daily concering Astrology plus my other prfofessions I am into. I cannot write stories in each mail. But is not understood that what is available for free one should take sparingly,only as much needed, in all fields of life ? and whatever it may be ? //I am not agaist that, if i was in your position, i will also do the same. It is your profession and your own descretion to charge fee and you are free to do the same as everyone has the right to earn and live. But my ONLY sicere request is that, do it in a proper way. not like saying - this forum is free to discuss. if you want URGENT solution then you have to pay etc etc. EVEN I AGREE TO THIS AS WELL PROVIDED, IF YOU MENTION ON THE HOME PAGE OF THIS FOURUM So that, every visitor will know and can make decision of his/her own whether to join the group or not.// Certainly if You want Urgent solutions then either You have to be a VIP whom we are bound to oblige or You have to pay for demanding Urgent replies, or detailed replies, or detailed readings for your numerous queries. Already time is taken up by social service, have You created a charitable institution for us,or are You funding our daily monthly expenses of the astrologers working here,that You can demand Urgent answer without respecting their times ? Have the astrologers here dropped from heavens without any hunger for food, money,comforts and without families of their own,that they are bound to be dutifully under your say so? I am not getting the time to re-structure the Home Page,but I will do it shortly as advised by one Member here long back, so as to avoid such problems in future. //I was not aware of this hidden rule in this fourum and after receiveing your mail on 19th october 06 i came to know// What hidden rule are you talking about ? There are no pretensions here. Its only your own perceptions as hidden. On what basis do You demand charity ? and more charity then what is due ? and that also when you want by surpassing others? What is your strength to do this ? //Yes some of the group member did this to me but i don't want to make it as an issue since i said Ok bye and not interested in paid engagement.// When You have the guts to attack and allegate the Moderator/Owner of this Forum, then where does the guts go if you cannot give the name of who demanded you the money ? Please give us the name and clear yourself and also let the other members be aware so that some other native is not fleeced by such Member. Or have you already taken his Free service so that now under his obligation and cannot take his name ? //Guruji, i really appreciate your effort and concern for serving people I don't want to comment on your yeilds what you got out of this forum. I CAN RIGHT AWAY START ONE MORE SIMILER GROUP FOR FREE CONSULTATION/DISCUSSION FOR NEEDY PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AN ASTROLOGER I CAN PULL LEARNED MEMBER LIKE YOU TO MY GROUP GRADUALLY IF NOT IMMEDIATELY.// What Yields ? I have got totally 3 clients who have paid me since working last 5 months on Forums. The money they paid me will not last more than 2 days of my existence. Rest of the 148 days who is paying me for my expenses ? Astrology on Net ? I also get the feeling of self confidence and self importance by running this Forum. Any harm in that ? I feel like a person who is wanted and not alone but living in a family. Any harm in that ? I am able to tone up my skills by staying and working here. My old Purva-paap and rinabandhanas are mitigated by doing free service here. Any harm in that ? Would Your comments be other than what I have written above ? Any small kid in 5th standard can open a Forum. Nothing special required to do that. You are most welcome and have my blessings if you genuinely want to help people. //Guruji, no comments on the above but i think i saw your some reply in other sites such as audarya-fellowship or somthin let me check- out// I have never heard of any thing known as audarya fellowship. But yes I do invite people on my Forum when they come for help on my private ids. I never direct them to any paid site. Prove that and You can cut my body in as many pieces you like. I will not utter a cry. Prove that I have made fool of anyone or directly/indirectly asked or suggested for money, by stalling their enquiry and You can have my head. Prove that I have answered any query in half and remaining half asked native to pay me by private consultations then only will he be answered .Or prove that I have put some fear in them by replying to their mail for help, and to remove that fear I ask them to come on payment to me, and you can have me for life time, washing clothes in your house. But Yes if You demand immediate service from me on my private id and need private consultations, then You have to pay me for time taken,or else feed my family if You cannot pay, or else come in que for free service on the Forum. Its as simple.Not complicated at all. Mr.Chandrasekhar, its very easy to criticise or comment bitterly on others, but sit in their place and then you will realise so many things,which You cannot at the moment. I hope that You will remove all malice,ill will and ill feeling from your heart now. But do not comeback unless You give us the name of the Member who has approached you for money. regards, Bhaskar. , " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006 wrote: > > > I am writing this below mail to you with due respect to you and your > great astro knowledge. I was never intended nor have any intention > to hurt you or anybody in this forum. > > " If God Did Not Forgive, Heaven Would Have Been Empty! " :-) > > I am a very small person infront of you. But i feel and think > certainly has some right to protest/give opinion in this FREE Group > being a Member of this group. Not as a guest. > > Hope you do agree on this. > > Dear Bhaskar Guruji, > > I appreciate your QUICK Reply to my posting on reality/truth in this > forum what me and others (roughly 75% request for help/postings are > not answered/replyed with geninue desire to help i have gone thru > entire postings so far placed here i don't know about DELETED > postings) have experienced in your esteemed group. Thank you for the > same. > > Before going further, i would like to cut and paste some of your own > Texts here and the mail exchange what we had earlier for your kind > review. > > > JYOTISH GANGA is a Forum created for You, devoted to discussions on > chart reading, ie.Kundli (Horoscope Reading) and remedial measures > there of to alleviate or reduce the sufferings of mankind. Nirayana > (Vedic),Sayana (Western),and KP are the main schools which we will > focus on over here, among others like Nadi, Lalkitab etc. > > Please feel Free to use this Forum as Your own platform to share > views and also advise the Owner/Moderator on any changes required > periodically. > > > Your reply to my below mail. > > Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:36:38 IST > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > Private Consultations are done only on payment of Consultation > charges. But On my Forum its free, > > Please re-post your enquiry on my Forum as under- > > / > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I am new to this forum and very much glad to see all senior/expert's > advices here. Now I seek expert's advice to please help me & guide > me with your Astrology knowledge..........Please > > My details: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 > POB: Nargund Karnataka (nearest place Dharwad/Hubli) > Time: 10:47 AM Karnataka India > Birth Star: Shravana 2nd Paad > Asc Lagna: Aries Birth Sign: Makara (as per Vedic Hindu Panchaang) > Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House Capricorn (Mercury Retrograde) > Saturn in 3rd House (Gemini) Retrograde > Rahu is in 8th House Retrograde > Ketu is in 2nd House Retrograde > Present dasha: Guru Mahadasha Sub Period: Guru > > About my wife: DOB: 31st Aug 1980 > Time: 2:45 AM Chitradurga Near Bangalore Karnataka India > Birth Star: Bharani 2nd Paad > Birth Sign: Aries > Asc Lagna: Gemini (Mithun) > Venus in 3rd house > > Problems: We lived together for JUST 66 Days!!after marriage, and > now no communications at all since 1 Yr!! lot of diff of opinions. > Will our marriage survive? > > Can we lead a married life together? when she will join me back? > > I want to start my own business either in India or in Dubai/Abu > dhabi. But met with no success despite putting in efforts to start > the venture. Will i succeed in my Business? i was working In Middle > East (Dubai) but now no job at present > > I have lot of ambitions and wants to start my own business when will > it happen? > > Now again i am planning to go for a Job abroad i,e in Middle East i > was there for 5 Yrs. Soon after marriage troubles started with > Career and as well as family life. I am in desparate help Please > GUIDE me > > Appreciate your time > > Regards > > Chandrashekhar > > > And now i will try to answer/clarify my THOUGHTS on your below > queries. > > 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the > 20th October , ie. about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few > others before you too have not been replied ? So how can their help > calls be surpassed and you replied before them. On what basis ? > > Guruji, you are writing this ONLY when i wrote reality/truth mail to > you. And remember we had mail communication earlier to this why you > didn't tell me about how many questions are free and how many are > based on fee? > > 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I do > not think anyone has done so, and if it has been done without > knowledge to me, > then too what is the harm ? > > I took his name as an example, and i have seen the same in one of > the astro forum i will try to find-out and let u know. My apologies. > > My only intention was/is to let us discuss/help the needy people > like me and you tell me why people come to you or to this forum? > just they need some guidance/help from learned persons like you. I > do agree that, there are some people who JUST want to do time-pass > and pose crazy questions (as i saw one of your old post wherein u r > saying the Delhi based lady asking for prediction of person who died > 6 Yrs ago) > > 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers are > only for money? Did anyone approach You for money ? > > I think your Immediate reply to my mail will answer this query. > > I am not agaist that, if i was in your position, i will also do the > same. It is your profession and your own descretion to charge fee > and you are free to do the same as everyone has the right to earn > and live. But my ONLY sicere request is that, do it in a proper way. > not like saying - this forum is free to discuss. if you want URGENT > solution then you have to pay etc etc. EVEN I AGREE TO THIS AS WELL > PROVIDED, IF YOU MENTION ON THE HOME PAGE OF THIS FOURUM So that, > every visitor will know and can make decision of his/her own whether > to join the group or not. > > 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone tell > you that you should not ask so many queries where services are being > done for free without > any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making tool > is employed here which I am not aware, please make me aware. > > No, Nobody told me and neither its mentioned anywhere in your group > by the group owner. > > 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently then > he has to buy someones time, after making payment of Consultation > Charges. Did You do that ? Before demanding Urgent reply ? > > I was not aware of this hidden rule in this fourum and after > receiveing your mail on 19th october 06 i came to know > > 6) First of all please let me know if any suggestion/direct/ > Indirect demand was made to You ever to pay money before You will > recieve any reply ? Thorugh any communication from any astrologer > here, in any form of Communication, whether, written, Verbal, > telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal meeting? > > Yes some of the group member did this to me but i don't want to make > it as an issue since i said Ok bye and not interested in paid > engagement. > > 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are > not connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any > Fees , I first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important > queries here which would be answered free , and not to waste their > hard earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to > this attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own > family time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even friend > astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business by > way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation here? > On what grounds ? On what base ? > > Guruji, i really appreciate your effort and concern for serving > people I don't want to comment on your yeilds what you got out of > this forum. I CAN RIGHT AWAY START ONE MORE SIMILER GROUP FOR FREE > CONSULTATION/DISCUSSION FOR NEEDY PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AN > ASTROLOGER I CAN PULL LEARNED MEMBER LIKE YOU TO MY GROUP GRADUALLY > IF NOT IMMEDIATELY. > > I HAVE STARTED TO LEARN ASTROLOGY BUT ON MY OWN PHASE... > > 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities horoscope? > > 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but not > even my family members know this, forget people or members of any > forum, or any clients. Where and when have > I invited people there, pray tell me ? > > Guruji, no comments on the above but i think i saw your some reply > in other sites such as audarya-fellowship or somthin let me check- > out > > 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes and > only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If You > want to know more, as You yourself advised you will be given > detailed Charges for the same, but You will not need to do that I > assure you. Because the 2 major queries take care of the smaller > queries in most of the cases. > > Looking forward to hearing from you sir. > > Sincerely, > > Chandrashekhar > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandraskekhar, > > > > Your Mail makes me sad. > > First of all let me bring to Your Notice, that the Moderator/Owner > > here with > > whom You are dealing is not a man of ordinary convictions. I will > > allow > > your post here than reply. This is what lions do, they dont > brandish > > their sword in empty air after removing enemy from thr battle > field. > > So do not worry about my Will. I am king with my Kingdom and > > without too . Its all in the attidue one has, and keeps, and acts. > > > > 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the > 20th > > October , ie. > > about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few others before you > too > > have not been replied ? > > So how can their help calls be surpassed and you replied before > them. > > On what basis ? > > 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I > do > > not think > > anyone has done so, and if it has been done without knowledge to > me, > > then too > > what is the harm ? > > 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers are > > only for money? > > Did anyone approach You for money ? > > 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone > tell > > you that you should not > > ask so many queries where services are being done for free without > > any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making > tool > > is employed here which I am not aware, > > please make me aware. > > 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently > then > > he has to buy someones time, > > after making payment of Consultation Charges. Did You do that ? > > Before demanding Urgent reply ? > > 6) First of all please let me know if any > suggestion/direct/Indirect > > demand was made to You ever > > to pay money before You will recieve any reply ? Thorugh any > > communication from > > any astrologer here, in any form of Communication, whether, > written, > > Verbal, telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal > meeting ? > > 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are > not > > connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any > Fees , I > > first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important queries > > here which would be answered free , and not to waste their hard > > earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to this > > attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own > family > > time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even friend > > astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business > by > > way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation > here? > > On what grounds ? On what base ? > > 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities > horoscope ? > > 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but > not > > even my family members know this, forget people or members of any > > forum, or any clients. Where and when have > > I invited people there, pray tell me ? > > 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes and > > only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If > You > > want to know more, as You yourself > > advised you will be given detailed Charges for the same, but You > will > > not need to do that I assure you. Because the 2 major queries take > > care of the smaller queries in most of the cases. > > > > Next time before putting anyone on the Cross, please hold for a > > moment and think. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > Owner/Co-Moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Chandu2chill " > > <nanna_id2006@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE MODERATOR HAS THE WILL TO PUBLISH THIS > MY > > > BELOW MESSAGE....!! I LEAVE IT TO GOD..SORRY TO MODERATOR > > > > > > Dear Vishal, > > > > > > I am not an astrologer, i also joined this group due to a > similer > > > problem with my socalled wife. she was with me for just 66 days > and > > > then went to her parents house with all the gold and now we have > 11 > > > months old a baby angel (Daughter)staying with her. My wife is > > highly > > > money minded, nonemotional, care dammn for basic > > cultures/traditions > > > etc. and so adamant. I am in debt, and now by the grace of god > > today > > > only i got the job confirmation after goin thru emotional truma > and > > > six months jobless > > > > > > I don't think you will get any sort of relief/help/guidance here > as > > i > > > had also posted my situation here BUT no response. I > think/assume > > > most of the learned people/astrologers and Moderator here are > using > > > this fourum as Money Making tool and or just to discuss > themselves > > to > > > show-off. Not interested in common/needy visitiors problems. > Indeed > > > they are interested more in celebrity people like SACHIN > > TENDULKAR'S > > > HOROSCOPE for example!!! i laugh at them when i see these type > of > > > people discuss such things in which neither Tendulkar is > interested > > > here in this forum nor he has requested anybody here!! really > crazy > > > people. > > > > > > Anyway now for your problem, file RCR in the family court > > immeditaly > > > and wait for her response now-a-days it is quite common that, > > mostly > > > educated, money minded women are filing cases against innocent > men > > > just to extorte money since they can not or don't want to adjust > at > > > husband's family and demanding and harrassing husband to live > > > separately leaving his parents. Then start blaming age old > > > mother/father and may file a false case of IPC 498a for more > > details > > > and geniune help please visit www.498a.org www.mynation.net > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > " History Rising " > > > > > > nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > > > If they really want to serve the society they should help those > > > people who are needy so that, they get the god's blessing I > think > > it > > > is true in astrology also.... Ha if they want earn by their > astro > > > profession i totally agree with them let them create thier own > > > website , and indicate the professional charges details in the > > > Fourm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishal mishra " > > > <thevishall@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > > > > > > Namaskar ! > > > > > > > > As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and would > > like > > > > to discuss my problem with you. > > > > > > > > My name is Vishal Mishra > > > > > > > > I am married this year on 26th January. > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place is > > Shamli > > > > (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh > > > > > > > > I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is not > at > > > > all respecting me. > > > > > > > > She has a very strong envious relation with me > > > > > > > > We had regular fights and twice she went home with her father. > > > > > > > > Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely to > be > > > > converted into divorce > > > > > > > > I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and stay > > > > peacefully with my family respecting all. > > > > > > > > My wife's date of birth is 8 > > > > september 1982 and i am not very sure about time > > > > > > > > Please suggest what to do. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Vishal > > > > > > > > Message from the Moderator to Vishal- > > > > The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your message > > > > has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as this > is a > > > Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Respected Bhaskarji, I am just Re-posting my below lines which i wrote along with my below mail to you. I think you probably forgot to publish/mention in your reply. //I am writing this below mail to you with due respect to you and your great astro knowledge. I was never intended nor have any intention to hurt you or anybody in this forum. " If God Did Not Forgive, Heaven Would Have Been Empty! " :-)// Anyway I don't want to waste your precious time, and hence i wouldn't like to argue on the subject further Thank you for all your help and appreciate your time. Regards Chandrashekhar Non-VIP Member , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Its a waste of precious time and mood spoilt by replying to such > Mails. > > //I am a very small person infront of you. But i feel and think > certainly has some right to protest/give opinion in this FREE Group > being a Member of this group. Not as a guest. > Hope you do agree on this.// > > No one is small and no one is big. We are all eternal brothers, sparks of the same Superconsciousness pervading all around. > > > //I appreciate your QUICK Reply to my posting on reality/truth in this > forum what me and others (roughly 75% request for help/postings are > not answered/replyed with geninue desire to help i have gone thru > entire postings so far placed here i don't know about DELETED > postings) have experienced in your esteemed group. Thank you for the > same.// > > I cannot understand how can you come to conclude that the > replies are not made with genuine desire to help. Whate are the > parameters for your judgement. > Sometimes Members post the same message twice in > succession, and when we realise that then that post is deleted > so that not to take up unnecessary space. > You are slapping the astrolger on the face by saying that > the enquiries are not answered with genuine desire to help, > which is absolutely untruth at least on this Forum. > > //Your reply to my below mail. > Private Consultations are done only on payment of Consultation > charges. But On my Forum its free, > Please re-post your enquiry on my Forum as under- > /// > > Have You not been asked to come on the Forum with your enquiry? > Or have You been asked to pay ? > > > //Guruji, you are writing this ONLY when i wrote reality/truth mail to > you. And remember we had mail communication earlier to this why you > didn't tell me about how many questions are free and how many are > based on fee? // > > There is no such rule that so many are free and so many are payable. > But as You say that You have read the entire mails on this Forum,you > also must have realised by now that at times we have also replied > to 3-4 queries at a time, and also at certain times, we have also > given information unasked from the querist so that it > would be useful to him. And if you have read the entire posts > then we have mentioned at so many times that one should only > post 2 important queries,otherwise the whole day is taken up > by only 1 chart and the others are not given justice. > I have to reply to at least 60 Mails daily concering Astrology plus my other prfofessions I am into. I cannot write stories in each mail. > But is not understood that what is available for free one should take sparingly,only as much needed, in all fields of life ? and whatever > it may be ? > > //I am not agaist that, if i was in your position, i will also do the > same. It is your profession and your own descretion to charge fee > and you are free to do the same as everyone has the right to earn > and live. But my ONLY sicere request is that, do it in a proper way. > not like saying - this forum is free to discuss. if you want URGENT > solution then you have to pay etc etc. EVEN I AGREE TO THIS AS WELL > PROVIDED, IF YOU MENTION ON THE HOME PAGE OF THIS FOURUM So that, > every visitor will know and can make decision of his/her own whether > to join the group or not.// > > Certainly if You want Urgent solutions then either You have to be a > VIP > whom we are bound to oblige or You have to pay for demanding Urgent > replies, > or detailed replies, or detailed readings for your numerous queries. > Already time is taken up by social service, have You created a > charitable institution > for us,or are You funding our daily monthly expenses of the > astrologers working > here,that You can demand Urgent answer without respecting their > times ? > Have the astrologers here dropped from heavens without any hunger for > food, > money,comforts and without families of their own,that they are > bound to be dutifully under your say so? > I am not getting the time to re-structure the Home Page,but I will do it shortly as advised by one Member here long back, so as to avoid such problems in future. > > //I was not aware of this hidden rule in this fourum and after > receiveing your mail on 19th october 06 i came to know// > > What hidden rule are you talking about ? > There are no pretensions here. Its only your own perceptions > as hidden. On what basis do You demand charity ? and > more charity then > what is due ? and that also when you want by surpassing others? > What is your strength to do this ? > > //Yes some of the group member did this to me but i don't want to make > it as an issue since i said Ok bye and not interested in paid > engagement.// > > When You have the guts to attack and allegate the Moderator/Owner of > this Forum, then where does the guts go if you cannot give the name > of who demanded you the money ? Please give us the name and clear yourself and also let the other members be aware so that some other native is not fleeced by such Member. Or have you already taken his Free service so that now under his obligation and cannot take his name ? > > //Guruji, i really appreciate your effort and concern for serving > people I don't want to comment on your yeilds what you got out of > this forum. I CAN RIGHT AWAY START ONE MORE SIMILER GROUP FOR FREE > CONSULTATION/DISCUSSION FOR NEEDY PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AN > ASTROLOGER I CAN PULL LEARNED MEMBER LIKE YOU TO MY GROUP GRADUALLY > IF NOT IMMEDIATELY.// > > What Yields ? > I have got totally 3 clients who have paid me since working last 5 > months on Forums. > The money they paid me will not last more than 2 days of my existence. > Rest of the 148 days who is paying me for my expenses ? Astrology on > Net ? > I also get the feeling of self confidence and self importance by > running this Forum. > Any harm in that ? > I feel like a person who is wanted and not alone but living in a > family. > Any harm in that ? > I am able to tone up my skills by staying and working here. > My old Purva-paap and rinabandhanas are mitigated by doing free > service here. > Any harm in that ? > Would Your comments be other than what I have written above ? > Any small kid in 5th standard can open a Forum. Nothing special > required > to do that. You are most welcome and have my blessings if you > genuinely > want to help people. > > //Guruji, no comments on the above but i think i saw your some reply > in other sites such as audarya-fellowship or somthin let me check- > out// > I have never heard of any thing known as audarya fellowship. > But yes I do invite people on my Forum when they come for help on > my private ids. I never direct them to any paid site. Prove that > and You can cut my body in as many pieces you like. > I will not utter a cry. Prove that I have made fool of anyone > or directly/indirectly asked or suggested for money, > by stalling their enquiry and You can have my head. > Prove that I have answered any query in half and remaining half > asked native to pay me by private consultations then > only will he be answered .Or prove that I have put some fear > in them by replying to their mail for help, and to remove that fear I > ask them to come on payment to me, and you can > have me for life time, washing clothes in your house. > But Yes if You demand immediate service from me on my private id > and need private consultations, then You have to pay me for time taken,or else feed my family if You cannot pay, or else come in que for free service on the Forum. Its as simple.Not complicated at all. > > Mr.Chandrasekhar, its very easy to criticise or comment bitterly > on others, but sit in their place and then you will realise so many > things,which You cannot at the moment. > > I hope that You will remove all malice,ill will and ill feeling from > your heart now. But do not comeback unless You give us the name of the Member who has approached you for money. > > regards, > Bhaskar. , " Chandu2chill " > <nanna_id2006@> wrote: > > > > > > I am writing this below mail to you with due respect to you and > your > > great astro knowledge. I was never intended nor have any intention > > to hurt you or anybody in this forum. > > > > " If God Did Not Forgive, Heaven Would Have Been Empty! " :-) > > > > I am a very small person infront of you. But i feel and think > > certainly has some right to protest/give opinion in this FREE Group > > being a Member of this group. Not as a guest. > > > > Hope you do agree on this. > > > > Dear Bhaskar Guruji, > > > > I appreciate your QUICK Reply to my posting on reality/truth in > this > > forum what me and others (roughly 75% request for help/postings are > > not answered/replyed with geninue desire to help i have gone thru > > entire postings so far placed here i don't know about DELETED > > postings) have experienced in your esteemed group. Thank you for > the > > same. > > > > Before going further, i would like to cut and paste some of your > own > > Texts here and the mail exchange what we had earlier for your kind > > review. > > > > > > JYOTISH GANGA is a Forum created for You, devoted to discussions on > > chart reading, ie.Kundli (Horoscope Reading) and remedial measures > > there of to alleviate or reduce the sufferings of mankind. Nirayana > > (Vedic),Sayana (Western),and KP are the main schools which we will > > focus on over here, among others like Nadi, Lalkitab etc. > > > > Please feel Free to use this Forum as Your own platform to share > > views and also advise the Owner/Moderator on any changes required > > periodically. > > > > > > Your reply to my below mail. > > > > Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:36:38 IST > > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > > > Private Consultations are done only on payment of Consultation > > charges. But On my Forum its free, > > > > Please re-post your enquiry on my Forum as under- > > > > / > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > I am new to this forum and very much glad to see all > senior/expert's > > advices here. Now I seek expert's advice to please help me & guide > > me with your Astrology knowledge..........Please > > > > My details: > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 > > POB: Nargund Karnataka (nearest place Dharwad/Hubli) > > Time: 10:47 AM Karnataka India > > Birth Star: Shravana 2nd Paad > > Asc Lagna: Aries Birth Sign: Makara (as per Vedic Hindu Panchaang) > > Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House Capricorn (Mercury Retrograde) > > Saturn in 3rd House (Gemini) Retrograde > > Rahu is in 8th House Retrograde > > Ketu is in 2nd House Retrograde > > Present dasha: Guru Mahadasha Sub Period: Guru > > > > About my wife: DOB: 31st Aug 1980 > > Time: 2:45 AM Chitradurga Near Bangalore Karnataka India > > Birth Star: Bharani 2nd Paad > > Birth Sign: Aries > > Asc Lagna: Gemini (Mithun) > > Venus in 3rd house > > > > Problems: We lived together for JUST 66 Days!!after marriage, and > > now no communications at all since 1 Yr!! lot of diff of opinions. > > Will our marriage survive? > > > > Can we lead a married life together? when she will join me back? > > > > I want to start my own business either in India or in Dubai/Abu > > dhabi. But met with no success despite putting in efforts to start > > the venture. Will i succeed in my Business? i was working In Middle > > East (Dubai) but now no job at present > > > > I have lot of ambitions and wants to start my own business when > will > > it happen? > > > > Now again i am planning to go for a Job abroad i,e in Middle East i > > was there for 5 Yrs. Soon after marriage troubles started with > > Career and as well as family life. I am in desparate help Please > > GUIDE me > > > > Appreciate your time > > > > Regards > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > And now i will try to answer/clarify my THOUGHTS on your below > > queries. > > > > 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the > > 20th October , ie. about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few > > others before you too have not been replied ? So how can their help > > calls be surpassed and you replied before them. On what basis ? > > > > Guruji, you are writing this ONLY when i wrote reality/truth mail > to > > you. And remember we had mail communication earlier to this why you > > didn't tell me about how many questions are free and how many are > > based on fee? > > > > 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I do > > not think anyone has done so, and if it has been done without > > knowledge to me, > > then too what is the harm ? > > > > I took his name as an example, and i have seen the same in one of > > the astro forum i will try to find-out and let u know. My apologies. > > > > My only intention was/is to let us discuss/help the needy people > > like me and you tell me why people come to you or to this forum? > > just they need some guidance/help from learned persons like you. I > > do agree that, there are some people who JUST want to do time- pass > > and pose crazy questions (as i saw one of your old post wherein u r > > saying the Delhi based lady asking for prediction of person who > died > > 6 Yrs ago) > > > > 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers are > > only for money? Did anyone approach You for money ? > > > > I think your Immediate reply to my mail will answer this query. > > > > I am not agaist that, if i was in your position, i will also do the > > same. It is your profession and your own descretion to charge fee > > and you are free to do the same as everyone has the right to earn > > and live. But my ONLY sicere request is that, do it in a proper > way. > > not like saying - this forum is free to discuss. if you want URGENT > > solution then you have to pay etc etc. EVEN I AGREE TO THIS AS WELL > > PROVIDED, IF YOU MENTION ON THE HOME PAGE OF THIS FOURUM So that, > > every visitor will know and can make decision of his/her own > whether > > to join the group or not. > > > > 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone > tell > > you that you should not ask so many queries where services are > being > > done for free without > > any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making > tool > > is employed here which I am not aware, please make me aware. > > > > No, Nobody told me and neither its mentioned anywhere in your group > > by the group owner. > > > > 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently > then > > he has to buy someones time, after making payment of Consultation > > Charges. Did You do that ? Before demanding Urgent reply ? > > > > I was not aware of this hidden rule in this fourum and after > > receiveing your mail on 19th october 06 i came to know > > > > 6) First of all please let me know if any suggestion/direct/ > > Indirect demand was made to You ever to pay money before You will > > recieve any reply ? Thorugh any communication from any astrologer > > here, in any form of Communication, whether, written, Verbal, > > telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal meeting? > > > > Yes some of the group member did this to me but i don't want to > make > > it as an issue since i said Ok bye and not interested in paid > > engagement. > > > > 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are > > not connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any > > Fees , I first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important > > queries here which would be answered free , and not to waste their > > hard earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to > > this attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own > > family time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even > friend > > astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business > by > > way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation here? > > On what grounds ? On what base ? > > > > Guruji, i really appreciate your effort and concern for serving > > people I don't want to comment on your yeilds what you got out of > > this forum. I CAN RIGHT AWAY START ONE MORE SIMILER GROUP FOR FREE > > CONSULTATION/DISCUSSION FOR NEEDY PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AN > > ASTROLOGER I CAN PULL LEARNED MEMBER LIKE YOU TO MY GROUP GRADUALLY > > IF NOT IMMEDIATELY. > > > > I HAVE STARTED TO LEARN ASTROLOGY BUT ON MY OWN PHASE... > > > > 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities > horoscope? > > > > 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but > not > > even my family members know this, forget people or members of any > > forum, or any clients. Where and when have > > I invited people there, pray tell me ? > > > > Guruji, no comments on the above but i think i saw your some reply > > in other sites such as audarya-fellowship or somthin let me check- > > out > > > > 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes and > > only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If > You > > want to know more, as You yourself advised you will be given > > detailed Charges for the same, but You will not need to do that I > > assure you. Because the 2 major queries take care of the smaller > > queries in most of the cases. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you sir. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandraskekhar, > > > > > > Your Mail makes me sad. > > > First of all let me bring to Your Notice, that the > Moderator/Owner > > > here with > > > whom You are dealing is not a man of ordinary convictions. I will > > > allow > > > your post here than reply. This is what lions do, they dont > > brandish > > > their sword in empty air after removing enemy from thr battle > > field. > > > So do not worry about my Will. I am king with my Kingdom and > > > without too . Its all in the attidue one has, and keeps, and acts. > > > > > > 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the > > 20th > > > October , ie. > > > about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few others before you > > too > > > have not been replied ? > > > So how can their help calls be surpassed and you replied before > > them. > > > On what basis ? > > > 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I > > do > > > not think > > > anyone has done so, and if it has been done without knowledge to > > me, > > > then too > > > what is the harm ? > > > 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers > are > > > only for money? > > > Did anyone approach You for money ? > > > 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone > > tell > > > you that you should not > > > ask so many queries where services are being done for free > without > > > any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making > > tool > > > is employed here which I am not aware, > > > please make me aware. > > > 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently > > then > > > he has to buy someones time, > > > after making payment of Consultation Charges. Did You do that ? > > > Before demanding Urgent reply ? > > > 6) First of all please let me know if any > > suggestion/direct/Indirect > > > demand was made to You ever > > > to pay money before You will recieve any reply ? Thorugh any > > > communication from > > > any astrologer here, in any form of Communication, whether, > > written, > > > Verbal, telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal > > meeting ? > > > 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are > > not > > > connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any > > Fees , I > > > first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important > queries > > > here which would be answered free , and not to waste their hard > > > earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to > this > > > attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own > > family > > > time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even friend > > > astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business > > by > > > way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation > > here? > > > On what grounds ? On what base ? > > > 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities > > horoscope ? > > > 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but > > not > > > even my family members know this, forget people or members of any > > > forum, or any clients. Where and when have > > > I invited people there, pray tell me ? > > > 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes > and > > > only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If > > You > > > want to know more, as You yourself > > > advised you will be given detailed Charges for the same, but You > > will > > > not need to do that I assure you. Because the 2 major queries > take > > > care of the smaller queries in most of the cases. > > > > > > Next time before putting anyone on the Cross, please hold for a > > > moment and think. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > Owner/Co-Moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Chandu2chill " > > > <nanna_id2006@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE MODERATOR HAS THE WILL TO PUBLISH THIS > > MY > > > > BELOW MESSAGE....!! I LEAVE IT TO GOD..SORRY TO MODERATOR > > > > > > > > Dear Vishal, > > > > > > > > I am not an astrologer, i also joined this group due to a > > similer > > > > problem with my socalled wife. she was with me for just 66 days > > and > > > > then went to her parents house with all the gold and now we > have > > 11 > > > > months old a baby angel (Daughter)staying with her. My wife is > > > highly > > > > money minded, nonemotional, care dammn for basic > > > cultures/traditions > > > > etc. and so adamant. I am in debt, and now by the grace of god > > > today > > > > only i got the job confirmation after goin thru emotional truma > > and > > > > six months jobless > > > > > > > > I don't think you will get any sort of relief/help/guidance > here > > as > > > i > > > > had also posted my situation here BUT no response. I > > think/assume > > > > most of the learned people/astrologers and Moderator here are > > using > > > > this fourum as Money Making tool and or just to discuss > > themselves > > > to > > > > show-off. Not interested in common/needy visitiors problems. > > Indeed > > > > they are interested more in celebrity people like SACHIN > > > TENDULKAR'S > > > > HOROSCOPE for example!!! i laugh at them when i see these type > > of > > > > people discuss such things in which neither Tendulkar is > > interested > > > > here in this forum nor he has requested anybody here!! really > > crazy > > > > people. > > > > > > > > Anyway now for your problem, file RCR in the family court > > > immeditaly > > > > and wait for her response now-a-days it is quite common that, > > > mostly > > > > educated, money minded women are filing cases against innocent > > men > > > > just to extorte money since they can not or don't want to > adjust > > at > > > > husband's family and demanding and harrassing husband to live > > > > separately leaving his parents. Then start blaming age old > > > > mother/father and may file a false case of IPC 498a for more > > > details > > > > and geniune help please visit www.498a.org www.mynation.net > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > " History Rising " > > > > > > > > nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > > > > > > If they really want to serve the society they should help those > > > > people who are needy so that, they get the god's blessing I > > think > > > it > > > > is true in astrology also.... Ha if they want earn by their > > astro > > > > profession i totally agree with them let them create thier own > > > > website , and indicate the professional charges details in the > > > > Fourm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishal mishra " > > > > <thevishall@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar ! > > > > > > > > > > As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and > would > > > like > > > > > to discuss my problem with you. > > > > > > > > > > My name is Vishal Mishra > > > > > > > > > > I am married this year on 26th January. > > > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place is > > > Shamli > > > > > (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh > > > > > > > > > > I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is > not > > at > > > > > all respecting me. > > > > > > > > > > She has a very strong envious relation with me > > > > > > > > > > We had regular fights and twice she went home with her father. > > > > > > > > > > Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely > to > > be > > > > > converted into divorce > > > > > > > > > > I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and > stay > > > > > peacefully with my family respecting all. > > > > > > > > > > My wife's date of birth is 8 > > > > > september 1982 and i am not very sure about time > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest what to do. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Vishal > > > > > > > > > > Message from the Moderator to Vishal- > > > > > The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your message > > > > > has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as this > > is a > > > > Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Dear Chandrasekharji, Sweet words after a tight slap,or Vice versa does not make much of a difference. The Pain will last for some time. People like me are no one to condemn or Forgive,as You rightly mentioned only God can do this, for we are no one to judge anyone. But people like me do get hurt and suffer when we are innocent and have clear hearts with no expectations as such. I just hope that matters are cleared at your end and You do not treat this Forum like others, We are here genuinely to help people, but due to lack of astrologers, time restraints, all cannot be adjusted immediately, Also re-read the passage printed as under,which was On the Forum Page which even You have read properly but not understood in entirety. " JYOTISH GANGA is a Forum created for You, devoted to discussions on chart reading, ie.Kundli (Horoscope Reading) and remedial measures there of to alleviate or reduce the sufferings of mankind " The objective was clear at the time of the creation of this Forum and now too, that this Forum is basically meant for DISCUSSIONS On CHART READINGS and NOT FREE CHART READINGS. The objective here was to enrich each others astrological knowledge and not to spend the life-time providing free chart readings. We are only doing this as social service which gets blessings,and no harm in doing that side by side. But it seems that it is understood as mandatory, which is not. So the Main primary objective is learning, discussing, and the secondary one is providing free services if possible, but not compulsorily. If you really feel that You should help others like You then You should open a Forum and get people to come in as Members. Yes I will come too,if I am invited, but after helping natives here. regards, Bhaskar, Non-VIP Ordinary Student Astrologer. , " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006 wrote: > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > I am just Re-posting my below lines which i wrote along with my > below mail to you. I think you probably forgot to publish/mention in > your reply. > > //I am writing this below mail to you with due respect to you and > your great astro knowledge. I was never intended nor have any > intention to hurt you or anybody in this forum. > > " If God Did Not Forgive, Heaven Would Have Been Empty! " :-)// > > Anyway I don't want to waste your precious time, and hence i > wouldn't like to argue on the subject further > > > Thank you for all your help and appreciate your time. > > Regards > > Chandrashekhar > Non-VIP Member > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Its a waste of precious time and mood spoilt by replying to such > > Mails. > > > > //I am a very small person infront of you. But i feel and think > > certainly has some right to protest/give opinion in this FREE Group > > being a Member of this group. Not as a guest. > > Hope you do agree on this.// > > > > No one is small and no one is big. We are all eternal brothers, > sparks of the same Superconsciousness pervading all around. > > > > > > //I appreciate your QUICK Reply to my posting on reality/truth in > this > > forum what me and others (roughly 75% request for help/postings are > > not answered/replyed with geninue desire to help i have gone thru > > entire postings so far placed here i don't know about DELETED > > postings) have experienced in your esteemed group. Thank you for > the > > same.// > > > > I cannot understand how can you come to conclude that the > > replies are not made with genuine desire to help. Whate are the > > parameters for your judgement. > > Sometimes Members post the same message twice in > > succession, and when we realise that then that post is deleted > > so that not to take up unnecessary space. > > You are slapping the astrolger on the face by saying that > > the enquiries are not answered with genuine desire to help, > > which is absolutely untruth at least on this Forum. > > > > //Your reply to my below mail. > > Private Consultations are done only on payment of Consultation > > charges. But On my Forum its free, > > Please re-post your enquiry on my Forum as under- > > /// > > > > Have You not been asked to come on the Forum with your enquiry? > > Or have You been asked to pay ? > > > > > > //Guruji, you are writing this ONLY when i wrote reality/truth > mail to > > you. And remember we had mail communication earlier to this why you > > didn't tell me about how many questions are free and how many are > > based on fee? // > > > > There is no such rule that so many are free and so many are > payable. > > But as You say that You have read the entire mails on this > Forum,you > > also must have realised by now that at times we have also replied > > to 3-4 queries at a time, and also at certain times, we have also > > given information unasked from the querist so that it > > would be useful to him. And if you have read the entire posts > > then we have mentioned at so many times that one should only > > post 2 important queries,otherwise the whole day is taken up > > by only 1 chart and the others are not given justice. > > I have to reply to at least 60 Mails daily concering Astrology > plus my other prfofessions I am into. I cannot write stories in each > mail. > > But is not understood that what is available for free one should > take sparingly,only as much needed, in all fields of life ? and > whatever > > it may be ? > > > > //I am not agaist that, if i was in your position, i will also do > the > > same. It is your profession and your own descretion to charge fee > > and you are free to do the same as everyone has the right to earn > > and live. But my ONLY sicere request is that, do it in a proper > way. > > not like saying - this forum is free to discuss. if you want URGENT > > solution then you have to pay etc etc. EVEN I AGREE TO THIS AS WELL > > PROVIDED, IF YOU MENTION ON THE HOME PAGE OF THIS FOURUM So that, > > every visitor will know and can make decision of his/her own > whether > > to join the group or not.// > > > > Certainly if You want Urgent solutions then either You have to be a > > VIP > > whom we are bound to oblige or You have to pay for demanding Urgent > > replies, > > or detailed replies, or detailed readings for your numerous > queries. > > Already time is taken up by social service, have You created a > > charitable institution > > for us,or are You funding our daily monthly expenses of the > > astrologers working > > here,that You can demand Urgent answer without respecting their > > times ? > > Have the astrologers here dropped from heavens without any hunger > for > > food, > > money,comforts and without families of their own,that they are > > bound to be dutifully under your say so? > > I am not getting the time to re-structure the Home Page,but I will > do it shortly as advised by one Member here long back, so as to > avoid such problems in future. > > > > //I was not aware of this hidden rule in this fourum and after > > receiveing your mail on 19th october 06 i came to know// > > > > What hidden rule are you talking about ? > > There are no pretensions here. Its only your own perceptions > > as hidden. On what basis do You demand charity ? and > > more charity then > > what is due ? and that also when you want by surpassing others? > > What is your strength to do this ? > > > > //Yes some of the group member did this to me but i don't want to > make > > it as an issue since i said Ok bye and not interested in paid > > engagement.// > > > > When You have the guts to attack and allegate the Moderator/Owner > of > > this Forum, then where does the guts go if you cannot give the name > > of who demanded you the money ? Please give us the name and clear > yourself and also let the other members be aware so that some other > native is not fleeced by such Member. Or have you already taken his > Free service so that now under his obligation and cannot take his > name ? > > > > //Guruji, i really appreciate your effort and concern for serving > > people I don't want to comment on your yeilds what you got out of > > this forum. I CAN RIGHT AWAY START ONE MORE SIMILER GROUP FOR FREE > > CONSULTATION/DISCUSSION FOR NEEDY PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AN > > ASTROLOGER I CAN PULL LEARNED MEMBER LIKE YOU TO MY GROUP GRADUALLY > > IF NOT IMMEDIATELY.// > > > > What Yields ? > > I have got totally 3 clients who have paid me since working last 5 > > months on Forums. > > The money they paid me will not last more than 2 days of my > existence. > > Rest of the 148 days who is paying me for my expenses ? Astrology > on > > Net ? > > I also get the feeling of self confidence and self importance by > > running this Forum. > > Any harm in that ? > > I feel like a person who is wanted and not alone but living in a > > family. > > Any harm in that ? > > I am able to tone up my skills by staying and working here. > > My old Purva-paap and rinabandhanas are mitigated by doing free > > service here. > > Any harm in that ? > > Would Your comments be other than what I have written above ? > > Any small kid in 5th standard can open a Forum. Nothing special > > required > > to do that. You are most welcome and have my blessings if you > > genuinely > > want to help people. > > > > //Guruji, no comments on the above but i think i saw your some > reply > > in other sites such as audarya-fellowship or somthin let me check- > > out// > > I have never heard of any thing known as audarya fellowship. > > But yes I do invite people on my Forum when they come for help on > > my private ids. I never direct them to any paid site. Prove that > > and You can cut my body in as many pieces you like. > > I will not utter a cry. Prove that I have made fool of anyone > > or directly/indirectly asked or suggested for money, > > by stalling their enquiry and You can have my head. > > Prove that I have answered any query in half and remaining half > > asked native to pay me by private consultations then > > only will he be answered .Or prove that I have put some fear > > in them by replying to their mail for help, and to remove that > fear I > > ask them to come on payment to me, and you can > > have me for life time, washing clothes in your house. > > But Yes if You demand immediate service from me on my private id > > and need private consultations, then You have to pay me for time > taken,or else feed my family if You cannot pay, or else come in que > for free service on the Forum. Its as simple.Not complicated at all. > > > > Mr.Chandrasekhar, its very easy to criticise or comment bitterly > > on others, but sit in their place and then you will realise so many > > things,which You cannot at the moment. > > > > I hope that You will remove all malice,ill will and ill feeling > from > > your heart now. But do not comeback unless You give us the name of > the Member who has approached you for money. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Chandu2chill " > > <nanna_id2006@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am writing this below mail to you with due respect to you and > > your > > > great astro knowledge. I was never intended nor have any > intention > > > to hurt you or anybody in this forum. > > > > > > " If God Did Not Forgive, Heaven Would Have Been Empty! " :-) > > > > > > I am a very small person infront of you. But i feel and think > > > certainly has some right to protest/give opinion in this FREE > Group > > > being a Member of this group. Not as a guest. > > > > > > Hope you do agree on this. > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Guruji, > > > > > > I appreciate your QUICK Reply to my posting on reality/truth in > > this > > > forum what me and others (roughly 75% request for help/postings > are > > > not answered/replyed with geninue desire to help i have gone thru > > > entire postings so far placed here i don't know about DELETED > > > postings) have experienced in your esteemed group. Thank you for > > the > > > same. > > > > > > Before going further, i would like to cut and paste some of your > > own > > > Texts here and the mail exchange what we had earlier for your > kind > > > review. > > > > > > > > > JYOTISH GANGA is a Forum created for You, devoted to discussions > on > > > chart reading, ie.Kundli (Horoscope Reading) and remedial > measures > > > there of to alleviate or reduce the sufferings of mankind. > Nirayana > > > (Vedic),Sayana (Western),and KP are the main schools which we > will > > > focus on over here, among others like Nadi, Lalkitab etc. > > > > > > Please feel Free to use this Forum as Your own platform to share > > > views and also advise the Owner/Moderator on any changes required > > > periodically. > > > > > > > > > Your reply to my below mail. > > > > > > Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:36:38 IST > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > Private Consultations are done only on payment of Consultation > > > charges. But On my Forum its free, > > > > > > Please re-post your enquiry on my Forum as under- > > > > > > / > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > I am new to this forum and very much glad to see all > > senior/expert's > > > advices here. Now I seek expert's advice to please help me & > guide > > > me with your Astrology knowledge..........Please > > > > > > My details: > > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 > > > POB: Nargund Karnataka (nearest place Dharwad/Hubli) > > > Time: 10:47 AM Karnataka India > > > Birth Star: Shravana 2nd Paad > > > Asc Lagna: Aries Birth Sign: Makara (as per Vedic Hindu > Panchaang) > > > Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House Capricorn (Mercury Retrograde) > > > Saturn in 3rd House (Gemini) Retrograde > > > Rahu is in 8th House Retrograde > > > Ketu is in 2nd House Retrograde > > > Present dasha: Guru Mahadasha Sub Period: Guru > > > > > > About my wife: DOB: 31st Aug 1980 > > > Time: 2:45 AM Chitradurga Near Bangalore Karnataka India > > > Birth Star: Bharani 2nd Paad > > > Birth Sign: Aries > > > Asc Lagna: Gemini (Mithun) > > > Venus in 3rd house > > > > > > Problems: We lived together for JUST 66 Days!!after marriage, and > > > now no communications at all since 1 Yr!! lot of diff of > opinions. > > > Will our marriage survive? > > > > > > Can we lead a married life together? when she will join me back? > > > > > > I want to start my own business either in India or in Dubai/Abu > > > dhabi. But met with no success despite putting in efforts to > start > > > the venture. Will i succeed in my Business? i was working In > Middle > > > East (Dubai) but now no job at present > > > > > > I have lot of ambitions and wants to start my own business when > > will > > > it happen? > > > > > > Now again i am planning to go for a Job abroad i,e in Middle > East i > > > was there for 5 Yrs. Soon after marriage troubles started with > > > Career and as well as family life. I am in desparate help Please > > > GUIDE me > > > > > > Appreciate your time > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > And now i will try to answer/clarify my THOUGHTS on your below > > > queries. > > > > > > 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on the > > > 20th October , ie. about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few > > > others before you too have not been replied ? So how can their > help > > > calls be surpassed and you replied before them. On what basis ? > > > > > > Guruji, you are writing this ONLY when i wrote reality/truth mail > > to > > > you. And remember we had mail communication earlier to this why > you > > > didn't tell me about how many questions are free and how many are > > > based on fee? > > > > > > 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? I > do > > > not think anyone has done so, and if it has been done without > > > knowledge to me, > > > then too what is the harm ? > > > > > > I took his name as an example, and i have seen the same in one of > > > the astro forum i will try to find-out and let u know. My > apologies. > > > > > > My only intention was/is to let us discuss/help the needy people > > > like me and you tell me why people come to you or to this forum? > > > just they need some guidance/help from learned persons like you. > I > > > do agree that, there are some people who JUST want to do time- > pass > > > and pose crazy questions (as i saw one of your old post wherein > u r > > > saying the Delhi based lady asking for prediction of person who > > died > > > 6 Yrs ago) > > > > > > 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers > are > > > only for money? Did anyone approach You for money ? > > > > > > I think your Immediate reply to my mail will answer this query. > > > > > > I am not agaist that, if i was in your position, i will also do > the > > > same. It is your profession and your own descretion to charge fee > > > and you are free to do the same as everyone has the right to earn > > > and live. But my ONLY sicere request is that, do it in a proper > > way. > > > not like saying - this forum is free to discuss. if you want > URGENT > > > solution then you have to pay etc etc. EVEN I AGREE TO THIS AS > WELL > > > PROVIDED, IF YOU MENTION ON THE HOME PAGE OF THIS FOURUM So that, > > > every visitor will know and can make decision of his/her own > > whether > > > to join the group or not. > > > > > > 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did anyone > > tell > > > you that you should not ask so many queries where services are > > being > > > done for free without > > > any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making > > tool > > > is employed here which I am not aware, please make me aware. > > > > > > No, Nobody told me and neither its mentioned anywhere in your > group > > > by the group owner. > > > > > > 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently > > then > > > he has to buy someones time, after making payment of Consultation > > > Charges. Did You do that ? Before demanding Urgent reply ? > > > > > > I was not aware of this hidden rule in this fourum and after > > > receiveing your mail on 19th october 06 i came to know > > > > > > 6) First of all please let me know if any suggestion/direct/ > > > Indirect demand was made to You ever to pay money before You will > > > recieve any reply ? Thorugh any communication from any astrologer > > > here, in any form of Communication, whether, written, Verbal, > > > telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal meeting? > > > > > > Yes some of the group member did this to me but i don't want to > > make > > > it as an issue since i said Ok bye and not interested in paid > > > engagement. > > > > > > 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who are > > > not connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any > > > Fees , I first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 > important > > > queries here which would be answered free , and not to waste > their > > > hard earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due > to > > > this attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my > own > > > family time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even > > friend > > > astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their business > > by > > > way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation > here? > > > On what grounds ? On what base ? > > > > > > Guruji, i really appreciate your effort and concern for serving > > > people I don't want to comment on your yeilds what you got out of > > > this forum. I CAN RIGHT AWAY START ONE MORE SIMILER GROUP FOR > FREE > > > CONSULTATION/DISCUSSION FOR NEEDY PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AN > > > ASTROLOGER I CAN PULL LEARNED MEMBER LIKE YOU TO MY GROUP > GRADUALLY > > > IF NOT IMMEDIATELY. > > > > > > I HAVE STARTED TO LEARN ASTROLOGY BUT ON MY OWN PHASE... > > > > > > 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities > > horoscope? > > > > > > 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years but > > not > > > even my family members know this, forget people or members of any > > > forum, or any clients. Where and when have > > > I invited people there, pray tell me ? > > > > > > Guruji, no comments on the above but i think i saw your some > reply > > > in other sites such as audarya-fellowship or somthin let me > check- > > > out > > > > > > 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes > and > > > only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, If > > You > > > want to know more, as You yourself advised you will be given > > > detailed Charges for the same, but You will not need to do that I > > > assure you. Because the 2 major queries take care of the smaller > > > queries in most of the cases. > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you sir. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandraskekhar, > > > > > > > > Your Mail makes me sad. > > > > First of all let me bring to Your Notice, that the > > Moderator/Owner > > > > here with > > > > whom You are dealing is not a man of ordinary convictions. I > will > > > > allow > > > > your post here than reply. This is what lions do, they dont > > > brandish > > > > their sword in empty air after removing enemy from thr battle > > > field. > > > > So do not worry about my Will. I am king with my Kingdom and > > > > without too . Its all in the attidue one has, and keeps, and > acts. > > > > > > > > 1)Your Mail requesting for Free predictions has come only on > the > > > 20th > > > > October , ie. > > > > about a fortnight ago. Did you notice that few others before > you > > > too > > > > have not been replied ? > > > > So how can their help calls be surpassed and you replied before > > > them. > > > > On what basis ? > > > > 2) Where did anyone discuss Sachin Tendulkars horoscope here ? > I > > > do > > > > not think > > > > anyone has done so, and if it has been done without knowledge > to > > > me, > > > > then too > > > > what is the harm ? > > > > 3) What made you guess that here the Moderator and astrologers > > are > > > > only for money? > > > > Did anyone approach You for money ? > > > > 4) You have asked at least 5 questions in your mail. Did > anyone > > > tell > > > > you that you should not > > > > ask so many queries where services are being done for free > > without > > > > any favour cash or kind expected in return ? Which money making > > > tool > > > > is employed here which I am not aware, > > > > please make me aware. > > > > 5) It is understood that if any native wants his reply Urgently > > > then > > > > he has to buy someones time, > > > > after making payment of Consultation Charges. Did You do that ? > > > > Before demanding Urgent reply ? > > > > 6) First of all please let me know if any > > > suggestion/direct/Indirect > > > > demand was made to You ever > > > > to pay money before You will recieve any reply ? Thorugh any > > > > communication from > > > > any astrologer here, in any form of Communication, whether, > > > written, > > > > Verbal, telephonic, by e mail or by chat or by any personal > > > meeting ? > > > > 7) In my case Whenever I receive any enquiries even those who > are > > > not > > > > connected to this Forum in any way, instead of demanding any > > > Fees , I > > > > first ask them to come on my Forum and put the 2 important > > queries > > > > here which would be answered free , and not to waste their hard > > > > earned money. Many members here should vouch for that. Due to > > this > > > > attitude of mines, I am spending lot of time at cost of my own > > > family > > > > time, made enemies in my group of astrologers and even friend > > > > astrologers have turned away because I am spoiling their > business > > > by > > > > way of doing free service. So how can You put this allegation > > > here? > > > > On what grounds ? On what base ? > > > > 8) Show me 2 posts where we have discussed any celebrities > > > horoscope ? > > > > 9) I already have 2 websites on astrology since last 5 years > but > > > not > > > > even my family members know this, forget people or members of > any > > > > forum, or any clients. Where and when have > > > > I invited people there, pray tell me ? > > > > 10) Your query would be answered in Que when your number comes > > and > > > > only 2 important queries would be taken up at our discretion, > If > > > You > > > > want to know more, as You yourself > > > > advised you will be given detailed Charges for the same, but > You > > > will > > > > not need to do that I assure you. Because the 2 major queries > > take > > > > care of the smaller queries in most of the cases. > > > > > > > > Next time before putting anyone on the Cross, please hold for a > > > > moment and think. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > Owner/Co-Moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Chandu2chill " > > > > <nanna_id2006@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE MODERATOR HAS THE WILL TO PUBLISH > THIS > > > MY > > > > > BELOW MESSAGE....!! I LEAVE IT TO GOD..SORRY TO MODERATOR > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vishal, > > > > > > > > > > I am not an astrologer, i also joined this group due to a > > > similer > > > > > problem with my socalled wife. she was with me for just 66 > days > > > and > > > > > then went to her parents house with all the gold and now we > > have > > > 11 > > > > > months old a baby angel (Daughter)staying with her. My wife > is > > > > highly > > > > > money minded, nonemotional, care dammn for basic > > > > cultures/traditions > > > > > etc. and so adamant. I am in debt, and now by the grace of > god > > > > today > > > > > only i got the job confirmation after goin thru emotional > truma > > > and > > > > > six months jobless > > > > > > > > > > I don't think you will get any sort of relief/help/guidance > > here > > > as > > > > i > > > > > had also posted my situation here BUT no response. I > > > think/assume > > > > > most of the learned people/astrologers and Moderator here are > > > using > > > > > this fourum as Money Making tool and or just to discuss > > > themselves > > > > to > > > > > show-off. Not interested in common/needy visitiors problems. > > > Indeed > > > > > they are interested more in celebrity people like SACHIN > > > > TENDULKAR'S > > > > > HOROSCOPE for example!!! i laugh at them when i see these > type > > > of > > > > > people discuss such things in which neither Tendulkar is > > > interested > > > > > here in this forum nor he has requested anybody here!! really > > > crazy > > > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway now for your problem, file RCR in the family court > > > > immeditaly > > > > > and wait for her response now-a-days it is quite common that, > > > > mostly > > > > > educated, money minded women are filing cases against > innocent > > > men > > > > > just to extorte money since they can not or don't want to > > adjust > > > at > > > > > husband's family and demanding and harrassing husband to live > > > > > separately leaving his parents. Then start blaming age old > > > > > mother/father and may file a false case of IPC 498a for more > > > > details > > > > > and geniune help please visit www.498a.org www.mynation.net > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > " History Rising " > > > > > > > > > > nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they really want to serve the society they should help > those > > > > > people who are needy so that, they get the god's blessing I > > > think > > > > it > > > > > is true in astrology also.... Ha if they want earn by their > > > astro > > > > > profession i totally agree with them let them create thier > own > > > > > website , and indicate the professional charges details in > the > > > > > Fourm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vishal mishra " > > > > > <thevishall@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar ! > > > > > > > > > > > > As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and > > would > > > > like > > > > > > to discuss my problem with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is Vishal Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > I am married this year on 26th January. > > > > > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place > is > > > > Shamli > > > > > > (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is > > not > > > at > > > > > > all respecting me. > > > > > > > > > > > > She has a very strong envious relation with me > > > > > > > > > > > > We had regular fights and twice she went home with her > father. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely > > to > > > be > > > > > > converted into divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and > > stay > > > > > > peacefully with my family respecting all. > > > > > > > > > > > > My wife's date of birth is 8 > > > > > > september 1982 and i am not very sure about time > > > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Vishal > > > > > > > > > > > > Message from the Moderator to Vishal- > > > > > > The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your > message > > > > > > has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as > this > > > is a > > > > > Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Hi, From ur kundli it seems You are an agressive person, try to control ur emotions and feelings. Try to control anger and donot hurt anybody physically otherwise ur stars may put u in trouble. , " vishal mishra " <thevishall wrote: > > Dear sir, > > Namaskar ! > > As I was surfing on the net I came to know about you and would like > to discuss my problem with you. > > My name is Vishal Mishra > > I am married this year on 26th January. > > My date of birth is 22 May 1977 at 05:05 am and the place is Shamli > (Muzafarnagar) Uttar Pradesh > > I am very much depressed by my married life as the wife is not at > all respecting me. > > She has a very strong envious relation with me > > We had regular fights and twice she went home with her father. > > Even now she is at her home and the chances are most likely to be > converted into divorce > > I don't want a divorce rather I need lady to come back and stay > peacefully with my family respecting all. > > My wife's date of birth is 8 > september 1982 and i am not very sure about time > > Please suggest what to do. > > Regards > > Vishal > > Message from the Moderator to Vishal- > The name of your Wife which you had mentioned in Your message > has been edited(Removed) to safeguard your interests as this is a Public Forum and we need to be a little cautious/discreet. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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