POINTERS TO EDUCATION-gopuji, bhaskar ji ,Fay

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{Om Namo Narayanaya}

 

Dear Bhaskar ji and all,

 

Namaskar.

 

I coudnt agree with you more. EGO is a grossly misunderstood term, in

fact it is healthy.

 

It denotes the self esteem which is so important an ingredient for any

recipe for success.

 

Low self esteem is what deters progress.

 

What is abnoxious is Inflated Ego, as you rightly pointed out- you would

hesitate to remain in the *orbit* of one with it.

 

People often do get confused with them and tend to view 'ego' with

negative connotations.

 

In every context, when you know that what you have done is not wrong but

still are taking the flak for doing so, (probably the person in question

truly believes that his/her way is the right) a simple expression of

regret makes all the difference- a healthy respect for the other *soul*.

I have tried it many a time and have always felt happy for having done

it.

 

So it is not always 'eating the humble pie'.

 

There are so many 'ego's' - Child ego, parental ego, spiritual ego and

the list is vastly populated.

 

A few of my thoughts...

 

Regards

 

Nalini

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Fay,

>

> Not sure, maybe unafflicted Jupiter aspecting the Ascendant,

> or Tamasik planets like Mars and Rahu away from the ascendant point,

> Rahu away from Moon or Jupiter, in fact away from all Planets

> connected to ascendant, Unafflicted Mooon,strong Moon,

> unafflicted Sun,or Venus aspecting Moon etc..

> Too much of Jupiteranian Qualities as well as Strong Sun both

> bring in the Ego factor to come in play.With saturn coming

> nearby these take back seat or more soberness comes in.

> You will find Mount of Jupiter very fat on certain persons

> with big Ego.For certain other lucky ones, endowed with Ego

> but with a change,you will still see fat mount of Jupiter

> on their palms but again this Mount would have

> shifted towards below of Saturn finger, thus making them

> Humble as well, as time demands. That I call is a perfect mix.

>

> Apart from astrological, I say that its a inner process,

> for any person to first realisation that His Ego is coming in

> way to his material and sppiritual progress both,after

> this realisation next step is to devise certain ways over

> a period of time to remove these blocks which are causing impediment

> to one, for people coming more near him, or loving him,or caring for

> him, or needing/wanting him. Because any person with a inflated Ego

> people do their work whatever is, and get out fast from close

> prximity to avoid the excesses.

>

> Personally I feel a certain level of Ego is definitely desired for

> some self respect in ones existemce, but not a iota above that. Wecan

> start learning and getting better from home itself when we expect

> much from our wives and when expectation is not met, we show our

> hurt in a number of ways. Sublimity of Ego first practised at home,

> where it is most difficult,spread over a period of time, depending on

> different people with various degrees of Ego and realisation keys,

> will pave way in time where one becomes really what one is supposed

> to, a Son of God, maybe not Jesus, but what Jesus would like us to be.

> This is a continous process, because Ego can take over any moment ond

> before one realises that he has already unleashed the power of Ego on

> some unsuspecting soul.

>

> You are making me think Fay.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , Fay Kelley iceisit@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar wrote:

> > >......

> > >because however one may talk only of spirit, he forgets all this

> talk

> > >when his body gets pierced by a Doctors injection or comes under

> the

> > >surgeons knife. In the same way we also at times are vulnerable to

> > >all types of attractions and want enjoyment from all,

> > >clearly knowing that apart from spiritualism nothing can give us

> > >complete contentment or peace.......

> >

> > Where does in your school of astrology the 'ego' fall in the

> chart ....

> > that part that gets defensive insteal of loving or compassionate?

> >

> > Here in US I think they talk of the Sun energies, but I am not sure

> > that would be correct .... as the ego is our burden being in

> > human form, ... duality .... can we make the eago sit in the back

> seat while

> > we stay in contact with Spirit ?

> >

> > where do you look in chart for such a thing?

> >

> > --

> > Cheers, Fay

> >

> > Every day in Flagstaff is just another day in Paradise! ©

> >

> > Fay S. Kelley Realtor® Cell 928.600.1733

> >

>

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>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

>wrote:

>>

>> Dear Fay,

>>

>> Not sure, maybe unafflicted Jupiter aspecting the Ascendant,

>> or Tamasik planets like Mars and Rahu away from the ascendant point,

>> Rahu away from Moon or Jupiter, in fact away from all Planets

>> connected to ascendant, Unafflicted Mooon, strong Moon,

>> unafflicted Sun,or Venus aspecting Moon etc..

>> Too much of Jupiteranian Qualities as well as Strong Sun both

>> bring in the Ego factor to come in play.

 

Thanks!

 

>With saturn coming

>> nearby these take back seat or more soberness comes in.

> > You will find Mount of Jupiter very fat on certain persons

>> with big Ego. For certain other lucky ones, endowed with Ego

>> but with a change,you will still see fat mount of Jupiter

>> on their palms but again this Mount would have

>> shifted towards below of Saturn finger, thus making them

>> Humble as well, as time demands. That I call is a perfect mix.

>>

>> Apart from astrological, I say that its a inner process,

>> for any person to first realisation that His Ego is coming in

>> way to his material and sppiritual progress both, after

>> this realisation next step is to devise certain ways over

>> a period of time to remove these blocks which are causing impediment

>> to one,

 

very good

 

>for people coming more near him, or loving him,or caring for

>> him, or needing/wanting him. Because any person with a inflated Ego

>> people do their work whatever is, and get out fast from close

>> prximity to avoid the excesses.

 

hmmmm

 

> >

>> Personally I feel a certain level of Ego is definitely desired for

>> some self respect in ones existemce, but not a iota above that.

 

Right, we have to take good care of ourselves .... love ourselves

to do so. But not be consumed with it. I understand.

 

>We can

>> start learning and getting better from home itself when we expect

>> much from our wives and when expectation is not met, we show our

>> hurt in a number of ways. Sublimity of Ego first practised at home,

>> where it is most difficult,

 

indeed, I have husband but it is the same thing.

hard at home

 

>spread over a period of time, depending on

>> different people with various degrees of Ego and realisation keys,

>> will pave way in time where one becomes really what one is supposed

>> to, a Son of God, maybe not Jesus, but what Jesus would like us to be.

>> This is a continous process, because Ego can take over any moment ond

>> before one realises that he has already unleashed the power of Ego on

>> some unsuspecting soul.

>>

 

I think we also hurt ourselves when ego out of control ...

not a positive track record when we view ego behavior or emotions.

hard to master our thoughts and master our emotions.

 

> > You are making me think Fay.

 

back at ya ;-)

 

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Cheers, Fay

 

Every day in Flagstaff is just another day in Paradise! ©

 

Fay S. Kelley Cell 928.600.1733

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auromirra19 wrote:

>I coudnt agree with you more. EGO is a grossly misunderstood term, in

>fact it is healthy.

>

>It denotes the self esteem which is so important an ingredient for any

>recipe for success.

>

>Low self esteem is what deters progress.

 

That is probably what I was referring to ....

the part of us that becomes defensive or hurt

or reactive.

 

>What is abnoxious is Inflated Ego, as you rightly pointed out- you would

>hesitate to remain in the *orbit* of one with it.

 

Very funny !

 

>People often do get confused with them and tend to view 'ego' with

>negative connotations.

 

The ego I am referring to is the part we must master while

we are on Earth.

 

>In every context, when you know that what you have done is not wrong but

>still are taking the flak for doing so, (probably the person in question

>truly believes that his/her way is the right) a simple expression of

>regret makes all the difference- a healthy respect for the other *soul*.

 

Yes, it is true.

 

Someone said to me once that the ultimate is to allow negative

energy to go around or pass though us rather than have it catch

inside somewhere. That is my goal.

 

>I have tried it many a time and have always felt happy for having done

>it.

 

Ahhh. That is wonderful. Feeling happy and at peace no matter

what happens around. us. :-)

 

>.....There are so many 'ego's' - Child ego, parental ego, spiritual ego and

>the list is vastly populated.

>

>A few of my thoughts...

 

Thank you very much for sharing those!

 

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Cheers, Fay

 

Every day in Flagstaff is just another day in Paradise! ©

 

Fay S. Kelley Cell 928.600.1733