Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 - ajitd varahamihira 07 mm 2003 7:20 AM Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Chandrashekharji, Thanks for your answer. I thought the answer lies in the argalas. But it is different. Sir, Can you please tell me where the or which ancient text supports this view. I again thank you for explanation. I am Dewavrat Buit from Nagpur, India. Ajit is my emial id. Thanks Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira 12 mm 2003 1:11 AM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Chandrasekhar, Do you really think that Sanjay-ji does not know about the planetary cabinet logic in explaining the special aspects of Ma/Ju/Sa? Anyhow when pondering about the question, here are my thoughts: (1) The planets having special aspects are all the outer planets (with respect to Earth's orbit around the Sun). (2) Out of the three, Ju/Sa are by far the biggest planets in the solar system. Ma is pretty close in size to that of Earth. (3) If we accept the basis that the rays or energy emitted by the planets influence our life on Earth, then we could logically accept the 7th aspect because of the direct line of vision and the rays travelling along that line. Then why the special aspects? I think this may be connected to the distribution of energy around the rotating planet and our ancient rishis may have foreseen or calculated the distribution of energy emanating from the planets and thus postulated the special aspects. Then they would have correlated those special aspects with what is happening practically and thus over a period of time (5000+ years), this would have got crystallized into basic principles. That is how I am thinking about the question along these lines...Gurus, let me know your comments. regards Hari varahamihira , " Chandrashekhar Sharma " <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Ajit, > I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what > Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of > Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. > Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education > being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of > the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects > 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and > 9th house denoting Dharma. > Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and > 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom > by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd > and 10th house. > Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the > welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th (Land and > Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. > Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana (that > result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but > remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. > All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is > everybody's prime duty. > I trust this will help. > Chandrashekhar. > > > ajitd [dewavrat2000] > Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti > > > OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA > > Dear shri Visti Ji, > > Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned > about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis > of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote > where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh > drishtis of the planets. > > Kindly reply. > > > Yours > > Dewavrat Buit > Nagpur, India > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Dear Hari, May be Sanjayji would be a better person to decide whether what I have stated is right or otherwise. I think you have not read the subject of the mail. It is a response to puzzle given by Sanjayji on his website. No where in my mail have I said that Sanjay has not understood this apparent meaning. I am certain he will confirm my interpretation. Chandrashekhar. onlyhari [onlyhari]Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:18 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Chandrasekhar,Do you really think that Sanjay-ji does not know about the planetary cabinet logic in explaining the special aspects of Ma/Ju/Sa? Anyhow when pondering about the question, here are my thoughts:(1) The planets having special aspects are all the outer planets (with respect to Earth's orbit around the Sun).(2) Out of the three, Ju/Sa are by far the biggest planets in the solar system. Ma is pretty close in size to that of Earth.(3) If we accept the basis that the rays or energy emitted by the planets influence our life on Earth, then we could logically accept the 7th aspect because of the direct line of vision and the rays travelling along that line. Then why the special aspects? I think this may be connected to the distribution of energy around the rotating planet and our ancient rishis may have foreseen or calculated the distribution of energy emanating from the planets and thus postulated the special aspects. Then they would have correlated those special aspects with what is happening practically and thus over a period of time (5000+ years), this would have got crystallized into basic principles.That is how I am thinking about the question along these lines...Gurus, let me know your comments.regardsHarivarahamihira , "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Ajit,> I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what> Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of> Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious.> Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education> being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of> the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects> 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and> 9th house denoting Dharma.> Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and> 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom> by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd> and 10th house.> Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the> welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and> Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them.> Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that> result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but> remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh.> All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is> everybody's prime duty.> I trust this will help.> Chandrashekhar.> > > ajitd [dewavrat2000]> Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AM> varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti> > > OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA> > Dear shri Visti Ji,> > Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned> about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis> of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote> where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh> drishtis of the planets.> > Kindly reply.> > > Yours> > Dewavrat Buit> Nagpur, India> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Shri Chandrasekhar, I also did not mean that Sanjay ji hasnt understood this 'apparent meaning'...what I meant that is why Sanjay ji still posed this question inspite of knowing the various meanings of the planetary cabinet. If he were satisfied with the explanation you have subsequently given, why would he still pose this question? Hope my logic is clear now. But I could be still wrong because I have read about the same planetary cabinet logic, albeit briefly and not so detailed as yours, in KN Rao's book 'Astrology, destiny and the wheel of time'. By the way, where/what is this puzzle? I read on the website (ref: ultimate challenge) and he has posed it as a question with the intriguing caveat that it has already been explained! regards Hari varahamihira , " Chandrashekhar Sharma " <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Hari, > May be Sanjayji would be a better person to decide whether what I have > stated is right or otherwise. I think you have not read the subject of the > mail. It is a response to puzzle given by Sanjayji on his website. No where > in my mail have I said that Sanjay has not understood this apparent meaning. > I am certain he will confirm my interpretation. > Chandrashekhar. > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:18 PM > varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti > > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Chandrasekhar, > > Do you really think that Sanjay-ji does not know about the planetary > cabinet logic in explaining the special aspects of Ma/Ju/Sa? Anyhow > when pondering about the question, here are my thoughts: > > (1) The planets having special aspects are all the outer planets > (with respect to Earth's orbit around the Sun). > (2) Out of the three, Ju/Sa are by far the biggest planets in the > solar system. Ma is pretty close in size to that of Earth. > (3) If we accept the basis that the rays or energy emitted by the > planets influence our life on Earth, then we could logically accept > the 7th aspect because of the direct line of vision and the rays > travelling along that line. Then why the special aspects? I think > this may be connected to the distribution of energy around the > rotating planet and our ancient rishis may have foreseen or > calculated the distribution of energy emanating from the planets and > thus postulated the special aspects. Then they would have correlated > those special aspects with what is happening practically and thus > over a period of time (5000+ years), this would have got > crystallized into basic principles. > > That is how I am thinking about the question along these > lines...Gurus, let me know your comments. > > regards > Hari > > varahamihira , " Chandrashekhar Sharma " > <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Ajit, > > I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to > what > > Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic > concepts of > > Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. > > Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good > education > > being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the > Dharma of > > the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So > he aspects > > 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely > knowledge) and > > 9th house denoting Dharma. > > Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and > Coborns and > > 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect > the Kingdom > > by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn > aspects 3rd > > and 10th house. > > Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look > after the > > welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th > (Land and > > Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect > them. > > Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana > (that > > result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) > but > > remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called > Marakesh. > > All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates > too) as it is > > everybody's prime duty. > > I trust this will help. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > ajitd [dewavrat2000] > > Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AM > > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti > > > > > > OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA > > > > Dear shri Visti Ji, > > > > Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had > mentioned > > about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh > Graha drishtis > > of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or > kindly quote > > where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the > vishesh > > drishtis of the planets. > > > > Kindly reply. > > > > > > Yours > > > > Dewavrat Buit > > Nagpur, India > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri handrashekhar Sharmaji, Thanks for your mail. Glad to know that youare from Nagpur. At apresent you are at which place. Are you currently at Nagpur? If yes then give me deatils of your address. Or if not whenever you come here please tell me. The main reason in asking about the sourece is only to know whether there is a mention of this is there in any sacred texts. Yours Dewavrat buit Nagpur, India - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira 12 mm 2003 2:43 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I too am from Nagpur.Not everything is quoted in Ancient texts and this is the reason the sages enjoin us to apply our Viveka.They have given us the basic principles and to illustrate the principles certain yogas and their interpretations. They have also given exceptions where necessary. The reason is that, in days bygone the shashtra was taught to the shishya in person. This gave opportunity to the shishya to ask any difficulty he experienced in understanding the concepts. Again you will find that if at one place one principle is mentioned , it is not reiterated again as you proceed ahead in the texts. From the description of yogas one is supposed to apply his mind and understand the logic behind the statements by application of his mind. There are umpteen such examples in the texts. Hope this helps, Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:52 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Chandrashekharji, Thanks for your answer. I thought the answer lies in the argalas. But it is different. Sir, Can you please tell me where the or which ancient text supports this view. I again thank you for explanation. I am Dewavrat Buit from Nagpur, India. Ajit is my emial id. Thanks Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira 12 mm 2003 1:11 AM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Dear Devavratji, I am very much in Nagpur. My address is 148, S.A.Road, Shraddhanandpeth. I have a small shop Pets and Gardens located there only. my phone number is 2237445/'3122248. I am usually there between 12.30 to 2.00 an 6.00 to 8.00. Feel free to call on me if you loke. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:22 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri handrashekhar Sharmaji, Thanks for your mail. Glad to know that youare from Nagpur. At apresent you are at which place. Are you currently at Nagpur? If yes then give me deatils of your address. Or if not whenever you come here please tell me. The main reason in asking about the sourece is only to know whether there is a mention of this is there in any sacred texts. Yours Dewavrat buit Nagpur, India - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira 12 mm 2003 2:43 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I too am from Nagpur.Not everything is quoted in Ancient texts and this is the reason the sages enjoin us to apply our Viveka.They have given us the basic principles and to illustrate the principles certain yogas and their interpretations. They have also given exceptions where necessary. The reason is that, in days bygone the shashtra was taught to the shishya in person. This gave opportunity to the shishya to ask any difficulty he experienced in understanding the concepts. Again you will find that if at one place one principle is mentioned , it is not reiterated again as you proceed ahead in the texts. From the description of yogas one is supposed to apply his mind and understand the logic behind the statements by application of his mind. There are umpteen such examples in the texts. Hope this helps, Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:52 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Chandrashekharji, Thanks for your answer. I thought the answer lies in the argalas. But it is different. Sir, Can you please tell me where the or which ancient text supports this view. I again thank you for explanation. I am Dewavrat Buit from Nagpur, India. Ajit is my emial id. Thanks Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira 12 mm 2003 1:11 AM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Dear Hari, I still think you have not read the poser by Sanjayji and the reason that he posted it. Sanjayji did this in answer to some uncalled for critism and challenge to his knowledge by Shayamsundardas Kansal transmitted by Gauranga. Sanjay said that let Mr. Kansal answer the simple question. You could ask Ajit and Ramesh who have asked the question related to this poser if you have any doubts. Chandrashekhar. onlyhari [onlyhari]Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:45 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Shri Chandrasekhar,I also did not mean that Sanjay ji hasnt understood this 'apparent meaning'...what I meant that is why Sanjay ji still posed this question inspite of knowing the various meanings of the planetary cabinet. If he were satisfied with the explanation you have subsequently given, why would he still pose this question?Hope my logic is clear now. But I could be still wrong because I have read about the same planetary cabinet logic, albeit briefly and not so detailed as yours, in KN Rao's book 'Astrology, destiny and the wheel of time'. By the way, where/what is this puzzle? I read on the website (ref: ultimate challenge) and he has posed it as a question with the intriguing caveat that it has already been explained! regardsHarivarahamihira , "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Hari,> May be Sanjayji would be a better person to decide whether what I have> stated is right or otherwise. I think you have not read the subject of the> mail. It is a response to puzzle given by Sanjayji on his website. No where> in my mail have I said that Sanjay has not understood this apparent meaning.> I am certain he will confirm my interpretation.> Chandrashekhar.> > onlyhari [onlyhari]> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:18 PM> varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti> > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > Dear Chandrasekhar,> > Do you really think that Sanjay-ji does not know about the planetary> cabinet logic in explaining the special aspects of Ma/Ju/Sa? Anyhow> when pondering about the question, here are my thoughts:> > (1) The planets having special aspects are all the outer planets> (with respect to Earth's orbit around the Sun).> (2) Out of the three, Ju/Sa are by far the biggest planets in the> solar system. Ma is pretty close in size to that of Earth.> (3) If we accept the basis that the rays or energy emitted by the> planets influence our life on Earth, then we could logically accept> the 7th aspect because of the direct line of vision and the rays> travelling along that line. Then why the special aspects? I think> this may be connected to the distribution of energy around the> rotating planet and our ancient rishis may have foreseen or> calculated the distribution of energy emanating from the planets and> thus postulated the special aspects. Then they would have correlated> those special aspects with what is happening practically and thus> over a period of time (5000+ years), this would have got> crystallized into basic principles.> > That is how I am thinking about the question along these> lines...Gurus, let me know your comments.> > regards> Hari> > varahamihira , "Chandrashekhar Sharma"> <boxdel> wrote:> > Dear Ajit,> > I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to> what> > Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic> concepts of> > Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious.> > Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good> education> > being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the> Dharma of> > the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So> he aspects> > 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely> knowledge) and> > 9th house denoting Dharma.> > Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and> Coborns and> > 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect> the Kingdom> > by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn> aspects 3rd> > and 10th house.> > Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look> after the> > welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th> (Land and> > Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect> them.> > Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana> (that> > result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so)> but> > remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called> Marakesh.> > All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates> too) as it is> > everybody's prime duty.> > I trust this will help.> > Chandrashekhar.> >> > > > ajitd [dewavrat2000]> > Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AM> > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti> >> >> > OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA> >> > Dear shri Visti Ji,> >> > Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had> mentioned> > about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh> Graha drishtis> > of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or> kindly quote> > where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the> vishesh> > drishtis of the planets.> >> > Kindly reply.> >> >> > Yours> >> > Dewavrat Buit> > Nagpur, India> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 |Om Namo Narayanaaya|Dear Chandrashekhar, The 7th house is the source of all desires, hence all grahas (except Ketu) have Graha dristi on the 7th house. Shani has graha dristi on 2 Upachaya sthanas - this shows the real role of Shani in making us grow and become strong to fight diseases, sorrow, etc. Its the prolonger of longevity. Mars isn't interested in the Upachayas - he's Rudra the destroyer and is the exact opposite of Shani. Rahu and Jupiter have the same Graha dristi - they both see the past (9th), and the present and through the same - judge your future punya (5th). Only difference between the two is that Jupiter sees all the good things you did and Rahu sees ALL the bad things you did. Hence one gives blessings and the other certainly does not! These are complimentary to your analogies. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Monday, August 11, 2003 9:41 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Dear Visti, One could say that. However neither the 3rd nor the 10th house is connected with deceases or Longevity.Saturn also does not aspect all Upachaya sthanas. May be we await sanjayji's comments when he is free form the conference. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:27 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Om Namo Narayanaaya|Dear Chandrashekhar, The 7th house is the source of all desires, hence all grahas (except Ketu) have Graha dristi on the 7th house. Shani has graha dristi on 2 Upachaya sthanas - this shows the real role of Shani in making us grow and become strong to fight diseases, sorrow, etc. Its the prolonger of longevity. Mars isn't interested in the Upachayas - he's Rudra the destroyer and is the exact opposite of Shani. Rahu and Jupiter have the same Graha dristi - they both see the past (9th), and the present and through the same - judge your future punya (5th). Only difference between the two is that Jupiter sees all the good things you did and Rahu sees ALL the bad things you did. Hence one gives blessings and the other certainly does not! These are complimentary to your analogies. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Monday, August 11, 2003 9:41 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Chandrashekhar, No planets aspect the 6th or 11th as these are the places of Danda and Hara, and no grahas have the desire to take on those jobs. Saturn is a very misunderstood chap. The 3rd and 11th have todo with GROWTH and this being until there can be no more growth - i.e. perfectly strong. The only way to become strong is through strengthening our immune system and they do not get strong unless tested. Thats why children get so many diseases whilst growing up and later keep perfect health (atleast most do). Hence the reason for Saturns aspects. This is what Sanjay taught me, i usually don't open my mouthe too wide unless he's given me the knowledge to. Sanjay and I will be in the US until mid-november. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:55 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Visti, One could say that. However neither the 3rd nor the 10th house is connected with deceases or Longevity.Saturn also does not aspect all Upachaya sthanas. May be we await sanjayji's comments when he is free form the conference. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:27 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Om Namo Narayanaaya|Dear Chandrashekhar, The 7th house is the source of all desires, hence all grahas (except Ketu) have Graha dristi on the 7th house. Shani has graha dristi on 2 Upachaya sthanas - this shows the real role of Shani in making us grow and become strong to fight diseases, sorrow, etc. Its the prolonger of longevity. Mars isn't interested in the Upachayas - he's Rudra the destroyer and is the exact opposite of Shani. Rahu and Jupiter have the same Graha dristi - they both see the past (9th), and the present and through the same - judge your future punya (5th). Only difference between the two is that Jupiter sees all the good things you did and Rahu sees ALL the bad things you did. Hence one gives blessings and the other certainly does not! These are complimentary to your analogies. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Monday, August 11, 2003 9:41 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Dhira Prabhu, Also because the 3rd and the 8th represent life forces and thats the reason for the 2nd and 7th to be Maraka sthanas as they are the 12th to 3rd and 8th respectively representing loss of the life force.I remember reading that the 3rd represents sexual intercourse. Its not surprising that some animals like the bees and some other insects die after the act or the act kills them.So the 3rd has a definite connection to life force. Hare Krishna Sudharsan Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar,>One could say that. However neither the 3rd nor the 10th house is>connected with deceases or Longevity.How you mean? 3rd is 8th from the 8th and 10th house lord has to beconsidered like Saturn in matters of longevity, according to BPHS chapteron Effects of the 10th house.Yours,Dhira Krsna dasa,Jyotishahttp://www.radhadesh.com|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Dhirakrishna dasa, If you have any reference which give status of house of decease to 8th house kindly quote it. As far as I know 6th house relates to decease and its lord is called Rogesh (Lord of house of deceases). Again what is said in BPHS is about lord of 10th house acting similar to Saturn at shloka 3 Ch. 19 on effects of 8th bhava and not 10th bhava(Perhaps a typo there). This has to be read with the 2nd shloka indicating that he would shorten life. You will also find that this shloka itself is dimetrically opposite to what has been said in the Ch. 24 on effects of 10th bhava shloka 116. Of course if the learned astrologers prefer to think of 10th house as house of decease and longevity, I have not objection to it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Dhira Krsna BCS [Dhira.Krsna.BCS]Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:07 PMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha DrishtiDear Chandrashekhar,>One could say that. However neither the 3rd nor the 10th house is>connected with deceases or Longevity.How you mean? 3rd is 8th from the 8th and 10th house lord has to beconsidered like Saturn in matters of longevity, according to BPHS chapteron Effects of the 10th house.Yours,Dhira Krsna dasa,Jyotishahttp://www.radhadesh.com|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Visti, Kindly excuse me for being dense. But I have understood the word Upachaya to mean growth and as such, 3,6,10 and 11 house would be houses of growth and not just 3 and 11 as suggested. I was also not aware of Saturn's being karaka for children as is being suggested by you (you said"Thats why children get so many diseases whilst growing up and later keep perfect health (atleast most do). Hence the reason for Saturns aspects."). Again I do not understand how this gives decease and Longevity to 10th house about which you have not commented. Some quotes on this would be appreciated. Perhaps you will get this cleared from Sanjay when you meet him. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:41 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Chandrashekhar, No planets aspect the 6th or 11th as these are the places of Danda and Hara, and no grahas have the desire to take on those jobs. Saturn is a very misunderstood chap. The 3rd and 11th have todo with GROWTH and this being until there can be no more growth - i.e. perfectly strong. The only way to become strong is through strengthening our immune system and they do not get strong unless tested. Thats why children get so many diseases whilst growing up and later keep perfect health (atleast most do). Hence the reason for Saturns aspects. This is what Sanjay taught me, i usually don't open my mouthe too wide unless he's given me the knowledge to. Sanjay and I will be in the US until mid-november. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:55 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Visti, One could say that. However neither the 3rd nor the 10th house is connected with deceases or Longevity.Saturn also does not aspect all Upachaya sthanas. May be we await sanjayji's comments when he is free form the conference. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:27 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Om Namo Narayanaaya|Dear Chandrashekhar, The 7th house is the source of all desires, hence all grahas (except Ketu) have Graha dristi on the 7th house. Shani has graha dristi on 2 Upachaya sthanas - this shows the real role of Shani in making us grow and become strong to fight diseases, sorrow, etc. Its the prolonger of longevity. Mars isn't interested in the Upachayas - he's Rudra the destroyer and is the exact opposite of Shani. Rahu and Jupiter have the same Graha dristi - they both see the past (9th), and the present and through the same - judge your future punya (5th). Only difference between the two is that Jupiter sees all the good things you did and Rahu sees ALL the bad things you did. Hence one gives blessings and the other certainly does not! These are complimentary to your analogies. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Monday, August 11, 2003 9:41 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Chandrashekhar, I didn't mean that Sani is karaka for children. Just that growth implies developing strength/immunity. And children are those who are most susceptible to this as they are in the growing age. You seem to have heavily misunderstood what i'm writing. Growth implies overcoming struggle - Thats why Shani aspects the 2 Upachayas.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Visti, Kindly excuse me for being dense. But I have understood the word Upachaya to mean growth and as such, 3,6,10 and 11 house would be houses of growth and not just 3 and 11 as suggested. I was also not aware of Saturn's being karaka for children as is being suggested by you (you said"Thats why children get so many diseases whilst growing up and later keep perfect health (atleast most do). Hence the reason for Saturns aspects."). Again I do not understand how this gives decease and Longevity to 10th house about which you have not commented. Some quotes on this would be appreciated. Perhaps you will get this cleared from Sanjay when you meet him. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:41 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Chandrashekhar, No planets aspect the 6th or 11th as these are the places of Danda and Hara, and no grahas have the desire to take on those jobs. Saturn is a very misunderstood chap. The 3rd and 11th have todo with GROWTH and this being until there can be no more growth - i.e. perfectly strong. The only way to become strong is through strengthening our immune system and they do not get strong unless tested. Thats why children get so many diseases whilst growing up and later keep perfect health (atleast most do). Hence the reason for Saturns aspects. This is what Sanjay taught me, i usually don't open my mouthe too wide unless he's given me the knowledge to. Sanjay and I will be in the US until mid-november. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:55 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Visti, One could say that. However neither the 3rd nor the 10th house is connected with deceases or Longevity.Saturn also does not aspect all Upachaya sthanas. May be we await sanjayji's comments when he is free form the conference. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:27 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Om Namo Narayanaaya|Dear Chandrashekhar, The 7th house is the source of all desires, hence all grahas (except Ketu) have Graha dristi on the 7th house. Shani has graha dristi on 2 Upachaya sthanas - this shows the real role of Shani in making us grow and become strong to fight diseases, sorrow, etc. Its the prolonger of longevity. Mars isn't interested in the Upachayas - he's Rudra the destroyer and is the exact opposite of Shani. Rahu and Jupiter have the same Graha dristi - they both see the past (9th), and the present and through the same - judge your future punya (5th). Only difference between the two is that Jupiter sees all the good things you did and Rahu sees ALL the bad things you did. Hence one gives blessings and the other certainly does not! These are complimentary to your analogies. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Monday, August 11, 2003 9:41 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Visti, But you have not explained why not the other two. Again per your earlier suggestion of distant planets having more number drishties,Saturn should have had more drishties than Jupiter being even further than Jupiter. Am I wrong in my understanding of the word Upachaya? Kindly guide. Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Friday, August 15, 2003 1:59 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Chandrashekhar, I didn't mean that Sani is karaka for children. Just that growth implies developing strength/immunity. And children are those who are most susceptible to this as they are in the growing age. You seem to have heavily misunderstood what i'm writing. Growth implies overcoming struggle - Thats why Shani aspects the 2 Upachayas.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Visti, Kindly excuse me for being dense. But I have understood the word Upachaya to mean growth and as such, 3,6,10 and 11 house would be houses of growth and not just 3 and 11 as suggested. I was also not aware of Saturn's being karaka for children as is being suggested by you (you said"Thats why children get so many diseases whilst growing up and later keep perfect health (atleast most do). Hence the reason for Saturns aspects."). Again I do not understand how this gives decease and Longevity to 10th house about which you have not commented. Some quotes on this would be appreciated. Perhaps you will get this cleared from Sanjay when you meet him. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:41 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Chandrashekhar, No planets aspect the 6th or 11th as these are the places of Danda and Hara, and no grahas have the desire to take on those jobs. Saturn is a very misunderstood chap. The 3rd and 11th have todo with GROWTH and this being until there can be no more growth - i.e. perfectly strong. The only way to become strong is through strengthening our immune system and they do not get strong unless tested. Thats why children get so many diseases whilst growing up and later keep perfect health (atleast most do). Hence the reason for Saturns aspects. This is what Sanjay taught me, i usually don't open my mouthe too wide unless he's given me the knowledge to. Sanjay and I will be in the US until mid-november. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:55 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Visti, One could say that. However neither the 3rd nor the 10th house is connected with deceases or Longevity.Saturn also does not aspect all Upachaya sthanas. May be we await sanjayji's comments when he is free form the conference. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen [balabhadra]Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:27 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti |Om Namo Narayanaaya|Dear Chandrashekhar, The 7th house is the source of all desires, hence all grahas (except Ketu) have Graha dristi on the 7th house. Shani has graha dristi on 2 Upachaya sthanas - this shows the real role of Shani in making us grow and become strong to fight diseases, sorrow, etc. Its the prolonger of longevity. Mars isn't interested in the Upachayas - he's Rudra the destroyer and is the exact opposite of Shani. Rahu and Jupiter have the same Graha dristi - they both see the past (9th), and the present and through the same - judge your future punya (5th). Only difference between the two is that Jupiter sees all the good things you did and Rahu sees ALL the bad things you did. Hence one gives blessings and the other certainly does not! These are complimentary to your analogies. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Chandrashekhar Sharma varahamihira Monday, August 11, 2003 9:41 PM RE: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti Dear Ajit, I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to what Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts of Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious. Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over good education being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma of the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and 9th house denoting Dharma. Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom by his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house. Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the welfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and Happiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them. Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu sthana(that result is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so) but remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh. All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is everybody's prime duty. I trust this will help. Chandrashekhar. ajitd [dewavrat2000]Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:20 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Graha Drishti OM NAMO BAHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA Dear shri Visti Ji, Kindly help me. In recent post on the Sanjayaji's site he had mentioned about the graha drishti. Kindly enlighten me why the Vishesh Graha drishtis of the planet mars, saturn and jupitor have been assigned. Or kindly quote where the reference I can search for it. Or the reasons for the vishesh drishtis of the planets. Kindly reply. Yours Dewavrat Buit Nagpur, India|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Respected Sirs, Shani in my horoscope is in the third house (in vrishabh rashi). While the jupiter is in the ninth house in yuti along with NEPTUNE (in Vrischik rashi). Both, shani and jupiter are casting drishti on each other. My queries pertaining to the above are: * What effects/affects is it precipitating? * What trouble/problems can I have because of that? * What/how is the role played by neptune in the ninth house in yuti with jupiter? Please elaborate. Thank you, Humbly, Shubhastro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Dear Shubastro, Firstly let me tell You that I am serving in at least 24 Astrological Forums , and have seen your enquiries in almost all, from time to time , and quite regularly only with queries changing. See you will end up getting quite confused after a months time if you do this, because in India You know even Father -Son or 2 brothers to match in their views is difficult so forget about astrologers who are mostly out to out do the other even in serving people forget business-dealing with their clients. I have already heard of few so called astrologers casting evil spells (Black magic) on others of their clan to put them down, God knows what is the world coming to, I wish I had born 100 years before or 100 years later. Secondly I wish to give my reply which was given to you long back on one Forum but was returned (Not posted by the over jealous moderator). First your question and then my reply follows. Also please note that your latest enquiry too i will answer but in few days time, because I have others to answer in line. (Unless if You buy my time then its a seperate matter). And that wouldhave been better for You because one good astrologer paid well would have honestly checked your whole horoscope and given You readings from the heart. Here You are taking water from different ponds and that will only create indigestion, nothing else. Do You think that astrologers who are working in 20 Forums at a time have that much time to devote to a single query if any one puts up , honestly ? I dont think that 99% would spend time. If You ask for free once or twice to a chana sing dana wala its okay, but continously doing this is not gentlemanly. Whatever comes for free does not necessarily have a quality tag or warranty or guarantee certificate. I for one even if I take a cup of tea at a persons place , I am always thinking of ways to return that in some other way. And if i have salt at ones place in food or breakfast, then its a life long debt for me to those families. Tell me dont You feel any pain, concern, sympathy ,feelings of any sort, for these poor astrologers working incessantly answering your incessant queries too ? Anyway please take this suggestion as a elder brothers and not otherwise. As said I will answer Your latest query too in 3-4 days time. regards, Bhaskar. <shubhastro@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Madam/Sirs, > > > Can somebody please interpret the effects Mangal-Rahu yuti in > > Makara > > > rashi in the 11th house? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Shubhastro > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shubastro, > > > > Money wise - huge gains > > will suffer from Thefts too. > > Loss of wife. > > some addictions - Liquor? > > > > the above were general for Pisces Lagna. > > What are degrees of Rahu and Mangal and which ayanamsha used ? > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > <shubhastro wrote: > Following are the details of the degrees of the planets: > Birth Time:1859 hrs. > Date of Birth: 20/9/1971, Pune, Maharashtra. > > > PLANET SIGN LONGITUDE MOTION NAKSHATRA > Asc Pisces 12° 46' --- U Bhadra > Sun Virgo 3° 28' Dir U Phalguni > Mer Leo 18° 57' Dir P Phalguni > Ven Virgo 9° 55' Dir U Phalguni > Mar Capricorn 19° 13' Dir Shravana > Jup Scorpio 7° 49' Dir Anuradha > Sat Taurus 13° 7' Ret Rohini > Mon Virgo 13° 47' Dir Hasta > Rah Capricorn 18° 35' Ret Shravana > Ket Cancer 18° 35' Ret Ashlesha > Dear shubastro, The yuti should give following results, in your case. Love marriage, money too, gains, and change of job too for betterment.Mars will give change of job contrary to what one was doing before,in opposition to family busines. Mars will give both wealth and gains.Rahu will give gains. Also both will give new contacts,partnerships, associations and joint ventures. Since you have already passed the stage of Mars and Rahu Mahadasha both please let us have your experiences. regards, Bhaskar. , " shubhastro " <shubhastro wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > Shani in my horoscope is in the third house (in vrishabh rashi). > While the jupiter is in the ninth house in yuti along with NEPTUNE > (in Vrischik rashi). Both, shani and jupiter are casting drishti on > each other. > > My queries pertaining to the above are: > > * What effects/affects is it precipitating? > * What trouble/problems can I have because of that? > * What/how is the role played by neptune in the ninth house in yuti > with jupiter? > > Please elaborate. > > Thank you, > Humbly, > Shubhastro > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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