Again vivarta and ajata.

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Vivarta, as per Monnier Williams Dictionary, means:

 

(in Veda7nta) error , illusion , an apparent or illusory form ,

unreality (caused by A-vidya1 " ' , ignorance " ' , and removed by

Vidya1 , ` " true knowledge ) Veda7ntas.

 

Other meanings for the word, as per the same source, are:

 

changing from one state to another , modification , alteration ,

transformation , altered form or condition Ka1v. Katha1s

 

{-vAda} m. a method of asserting the Vedanta doctrine (maintaining

the development of the Universe from Brahma as the sole real entity ,

the phenomenal world being held to be a mere illusion or Ma1ya1 ; cf.

%{pariNAma-vAdA})

 

Namaste,

 

In my way of thinking Vivarta is an illusion, that is only evident

in delusion.

 

There is no time so everything seemingly happens at once so nothing

is unfolding or being projected.

 

In deep sleep or sushupti the world disappears, except for a

thought of existence in the jiva.

 

The Sages say when one becomes realised the world becomes then an

appearance on the Self/Saguna.

 

However when the body drops there is no appearance, no reason for

Saguna only Nirguna. This is why I said that Sankara taught

Ajatavada in his ultimate teachings. Even though at some levels to

some audiences he also taught vivartavada, as valid to a certain

degree. Sankara also said it is real whilst one is in it, inferring

that it isn't real when one is not in it.

 

It is hard to accept the idea of Nirguna, for some it is disturbing

and frightening and to others it is just incomprehensible.

 

One will never be able to understand it, only rise above it

all.......ONS...Tony.