Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ok, you don't have any answer to the question.... > > > > > > > > > > how could " Dan " have an answer to the question... > > > > > > > > > > " Dan " constrcution just has dissolved.... > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > to use your past construction: > > > > > > > > > > dissolved from nothing to nothing... > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > The self is like a nervous tic. > > > > > > > > The more you try to stop it or deny it, the more obvious it gets: > > > > > > > > > There is no 'you' who tries to stop or deny the self. It is the self itself which does that. > > > > D: The self doesn't do anything. The self is a byproduct of an > > attempt. The attempt isn't being done by something. > > > > > > > > > > > > The compulsive reiteration of the past in the present. > > > > > > > > > > > > Suddenly, effortlessly, clarity is. > > > > > > > > > Wonderful ! And who or what is realizing effortless to be clear ? > > > > > > D: Who cares? Who is asking your question? > > > > > > > > No going back is possible. > > > > > > > > > Who will stay or go back ? > > > > D: There never was a " who " doing anything. Rather, a compulsive > > self-contradictory movement stopped. > > > > > > The stream flows on, never can reverse itself. > > > > > > > > > What stream ? > > > > D: What is. > > > > > > Its flow involves no hold on itself, or anything. > > > > > > > > > Similar like a fart which escaped the anus > > > > D: Passing wind is just one of numerous bodily functions > > that involve movement. > > > > > > In this case, the stream flows everywhere at once, and nowhere. > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > D: I guess that smiley face reflects your sense of personal > > accomplishment with your fart joke. A funny way to establish > > a sense of self. But then, life is funny! > > > > > > Yes, if you see the irony. > > And when one meets a person so full of self-importance trying to babble spiritual it is worth some mocking and having fun. > > Werner It is a mirror. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Yes, if you see the irony. > > And when one meets a person so full of self-importance trying to babble spiritual it is worth some mocking and having fun. > > Werner A mirror of which you are in denial. So you see " everybody else. " - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > if Werner weren't full of " self-importance " .....he wouldn't feel too much important to answer this post.... > > lol > > > Marc Werner intends to remain oblivious. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > if Werner weren't full of " self-importance " .....he wouldn't feel too much important to answer this post.... > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > Werner intends to remain oblivious. > > > - D - > Good nite boys, I ask you where else could a lady be entertained in such a grand manner? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > if Werner weren't full of " self-importance " .....he wouldn't feel too much important to answer this post.... > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > Werner intends to remain oblivious. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Good nite boys, I ask you where else could a lady be entertained > in such a grand manner? > > ;-) Uhhmmmm.... :-p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > Yes, if you see the irony. > > > > And when one meets a person so full of self-importance trying to babble spiritual it is worth some mocking and having fun. > > > > Werner > > A mirror of which you are in denial. > > So you see " everybody else. " > > > - D - > Dan, Better face your self-importance instead of escaping into mirrors Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, if you see the irony. > > > > > > And when one meets a person so full of self-importance trying to babble spiritual it is worth some mocking and having fun. > > > > > > Werner > > > > A mirror of which you are in denial. > > > > So you see " everybody else. " > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Dan, > > Better face your self-importance instead of escaping into mirrors > > Werner How can I laugh.... when I know you're dowwwwnnnn... How can I laugh... when I know you're downnnn, hey! ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, if you see the irony. > > > > > > And when one meets a person so full of self-importance trying to babble spiritual it is worth some mocking and having fun. > > > > > > Werner > > > > A mirror of which you are in denial. > > > > So you see " everybody else. " > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Dan, > > Better face your self-importance instead of escaping into mirrors > > Werner Werner - Why not just look at what you are projecting onto the others that you criticize? That will give an important clue. About self-importance, and other stuff that is difficult for you to face up to. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, if you see the irony. > > > > > > > > And when one meets a person so full of self-importance trying to babble spiritual it is worth some mocking and having fun. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > A mirror of which you are in denial. > > > > > > So you see " everybody else. " > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > Better face your self-importance instead of escaping into mirrors > > > > Werner > > > Werner - > > Why not just look at what you are projecting onto the others that you criticize? > > That will give an important clue. > > About self-importance, and other stuff that is difficult for you to face up to. > > - D - > Hey, Dan, Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. ) Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, if you see the irony. > > > > > > > > > > And when one meets a person so full of self-importance trying to babble spiritual it is worth some mocking and having fun. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > A mirror of which you are in denial. > > > > > > > > So you see " everybody else. " > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > Better face your self-importance instead of escaping into mirrors > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > Why not just look at what you are projecting onto the others that you criticize? > > > > That will give an important clue. > > > > About self-importance, and other stuff that is difficult for you to face up to. > > > > - D - > > > > > Hey, Dan, > > Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? > > The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. > > ) > > Werner > Says who? The conclusion of your projection? ;-) Anticipating..... ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > Hey, Dan, > > Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? > > The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. > > ) > > Werner Werner - Here is an invitation. It's not a conclusion, and involves relinquishing projections. This invitation is heard at the heart of one's being. No other is involved. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > Hey, Dan, > > > > Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? > > > > The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. > > > > ) > > > > Werner > > > Werner - > > Here is an invitation. > > It's not a conclusion, and involves relinquishing projections. > > This invitation is heard at the heart of one's being. > > No other is involved. > > > - D - > Dan, Why do you escape in such a silly suggestion ? Incriminating another of projecting and then calling this incrimination to be nondual thinking already is silly enough, isn't it ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > Hey, Dan, > > > > > > Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? > > > > > > The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. > > > > > > ) > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > Here is an invitation. > > > > It's not a conclusion, and involves relinquishing projections. > > > > This invitation is heard at the heart of one's being. > > > > No other is involved. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Dan, > > Why do you escape in such a silly suggestion ? > > Incriminating another of projecting and then calling this incrimination to be nondual thinking already is silly enough, isn't it ? > > Werner > Well that's the problem with nondual *THINKING*... it's the same delusion that is thinking itself non-delusional. There's no end to delusion. Actually, there is it's called reality. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, Dan, > > > > > > > > Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? > > > > > > > > The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > Here is an invitation. > > > > > > It's not a conclusion, and involves relinquishing projections. > > > > > > This invitation is heard at the heart of one's being. > > > > > > No other is involved. > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > Why do you escape in such a silly suggestion ? > > > > Incriminating another of projecting and then calling this incrimination to be nondual thinking already is silly enough, isn't it ? > > > > Werner > > > > > Well that's the problem with nondual *THINKING*... it's the same delusion that is thinking itself non-delusional. There's no end to delusion. Actually, there is it's called reality. > > ~A > Reality is delusional. Urrrrrrmove. :-) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, Dan, > > > > > > > > Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? > > > > > > > > The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > Here is an invitation. > > > > > > It's not a conclusion, and involves relinquishing projections. > > > > > > This invitation is heard at the heart of one's being. > > > > > > No other is involved. > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > Why do you escape in such a silly suggestion ? > > > > Incriminating another of projecting and then calling this incrimination to be nondual thinking already is silly enough, isn't it ? > > > > Werner > > > > > Well that's the problem with nondual *THINKING*... it's the same delusion that is thinking itself non-delusional. There's no end to delusion. Actually, there is it's called reality. > > ~A P: Rats are non-delusional. They don't believe in anything that doesn't tickle their whiskers. Hindus believe rats are gods. Rats on the other hand, could care less about their true nature, genus, provenance, or divinity. So let's imitate rats, and be rat-ional. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey, Dan, > > > > > > > > > > Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? > > > > > > > > > > The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > Here is an invitation. > > > > > > > > It's not a conclusion, and involves relinquishing projections. > > > > > > > > This invitation is heard at the heart of one's being. > > > > > > > > No other is involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan, > > > > > > Why do you escape in such a silly suggestion ? > > > > > > Incriminating another of projecting and then calling this incrimination to be nondual thinking already is silly enough, isn't it ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Well that's the problem with nondual *THINKING*... it's the same delusion that is thinking itself non-delusional. There's no end to delusion. Actually, there is it's called reality. > > > > ~A > > P: Rats are non-delusional. They don't believe in anything > that doesn't tickle their whiskers. Hindus believe rats > are gods. Rats on the other hand, could care less about > their true nature, genus, provenance, or divinity. So let's > imitate rats, and be rat-ional. > > > > > If rats were to develop the ability to name things and share their accumulated knowledge they would probably develop rat gods and rat cars..........and start smoking marijuana. .....and their rat gods would probably make them feel awkward in their nakedness.....and they would probably try to cover up their genitals. The different tribes of rats would probably go to war and fight about rat stuff....... and.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > Hey, Dan, > > > > > > Do you know the difference between a projection and a conclusion ? > > > > > > The difference is what someones says about you is a projection and what you say about another is a conclusion. > > > > > > ) > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > Here is an invitation. > > > > It's not a conclusion, and involves relinquishing projections. > > > > This invitation is heard at the heart of one's being. > > > > No other is involved. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > Dan, > > Why do you escape in such a silly suggestion ? > > Incriminating another of projecting and then calling this incrimination to be nondual thinking already is silly enough, isn't it ? > > Werner Nondual thinking? What are you thinking?! Oh, silliness. I see. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > if Werner weren't full of " self-importance " .....he wouldn't feel too much important to answer this post.... > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > Werner intends to remain oblivious. > > > - D - > Werner has no choice, anyway.... as long he is such " self-important " ... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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