Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > All of the popular teachers speak to a certain level of understanding. > > That's what makes them popular. > > The closer one gets to the ultimate understanding.....the more the > silliness of their prattlings is seen. > > > > > toombaru There aren't any levels, Toom. There isn't a " one " who is moving away from somewhere, or getting closer to somewhere. Never has been, never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Yes, forgiveness is always only of oneself. > > Releasing the guilt one bears for the attempt at separate existence > and having an identity. That's right. That is the " source " of the guilt, isn't it? One is ashamed for trying to be apart. .... and Adam ate of the apple, and was cast out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Somewhere......out in vast ocean. > > > > > The vessel breaks apart. > > > > > And each of the passengers > > > > > are caught in their own current. > > > > > > > > > > They drift apart.... > > > > > and lose sight of each-other. > > > > > > > > > > They watch as their > > > > > life preservers dissolve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mia, welcome! > > > > > > > > You couldn't have come at a more opportune time. > > > > > > > > Toomie's right, no life perservers here. We all drown in the light. > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > P: I have news for you all. Mia left the bldg long ago, > > > yet her intro keeps rolling downhill. She wasn't > > > interested in philosophy. She was a Kunda girl > > > interested only in snake charming tricks. She said so, > > > herself, but you don't listen, you just want to say. > > > > > > Someone could have asked her what did she mean by seeing > > > energy in posts? But even Toomb, who promised to give > > > money to lurkers who posted, could not stop himself > > > from shooting first, and asking questions later. > > > > > > Funny, no? > > > > Yes. Funny! > > > > It will be even funnier once you forward her address to Toom so he can mail her check to her. > > > > - D - > > > > > > I made the offer to lurkers. > > As soon as she posted she lost that status. > > > > > > :-0 > > > > > toombaru > ROFL. You are EVIL! BTW....M I A ~ I A M hmmm. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > > > > I made the offer to lurkers. > > > > As soon as she posted she lost that status. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-0 > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > ROFL. You are EVIL! All " you's " are evil, without exception ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:23 PM Re: intro Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then would > > You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > Werner if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches about himself. - D - But you do....and claim not to be here... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:32 PM Re: intro Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then > > > would You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or > > of violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most > > virtuous life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if > > you have no love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do > > what you will. For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is > > an error, he corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, > > no remorse; for him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a > > moment in which a thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > > > Werner > > if he is not, there is no sin. > > but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to > know it. > > commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is > the self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he > is not there. > > so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes > were true of himself. > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > about himself. > > - D - > All of the popular teachers speak to a certain level of understanding. That's what makes them popular. The closer one gets to the ultimate understanding.....the more the silliness of their prattlings is seen. toombaru That is just because you where a follower/beleiver...now you see how silly you was. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:32 PM > Re: intro > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then > > > > would You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or > > > of violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most > > > virtuous life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if > > > you have no love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do > > > what you will. For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is > > > an error, he corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, > > > no remorse; for him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a > > > moment in which a thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > > > > > Werner > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. > > > > but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to > > know it. > > > > commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is > > the self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he > > is not there. > > > > so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes > > were true of himself. > > > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > > about himself. > > > > - D - > > > > All of the popular teachers speak to a certain level of understanding. > > That's what makes them popular. > > The closer one gets to the ultimate understanding.....the more the silliness > of their prattlings is seen. > > toombaru > > That is just because you where a follower/beleiver...now you see how silly > you was. > -geo- > Yes....silly....needy...gullible and naive. But just look at me now. (toombaru slowly walks to the center of the stage.......puts his head down.....one light expands and embraces him......his feet start to move......slowly at first.....and then a stacato rhythm fills the air.......his tail feathers begin to fan out and raise...they all quiver in unison.... As his radiant body spins......the thousand eyes shimmer.......mesmerizing the onlookers. Well......I guess you had to be there. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Yes....silly....needy...gullible and naive. > > But just look at me now. Look at me! I'm silly, needy, gullible and naive... .... and prrrouuuddd of it! (j/k ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:23 PM > Re: intro > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then would > > > You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > > > Werner > > if he is not, there is no sin. > > but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to > know it. > > commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the > self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not > there. > > so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were > true of himself. > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > about himself. > > - D - > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > -geo- No one is here, Geo. Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:23 PM > > Re: intro > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then would > > > > You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > > > > > Werner > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. > > > > but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to > > know it. > > > > commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the > > self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not > > there. > > > > so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were > > true of himself. > > > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > > about himself. > > > > - D - > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > -geo- > > No one is here, Geo. > > Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. > > You sure don't listen well to me. He isn't there to listen to you (chuckling ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:23 PM > > > Re: intro > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then would > > > > > You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > > > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > > > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > > > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. > > > > > > but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to > > > know it. > > > > > > commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the > > > self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not > > > there. > > > > > > so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were > > > true of himself. > > > > > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > > > about himself. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > > -geo- > > > > No one is here, Geo. > > > > Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. > > > > You sure don't listen well to me. > > He isn't there to listen to you (chuckling ;-). Me, too. Funny! - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:23 PM > > > > Re: intro > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > > > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > > > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then would > > > > > > You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > > > > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > > > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > > > > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > > > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > > > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > > > > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > > > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. > > > > > > > > but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to > > > > know it. > > > > > > > > commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the > > > > self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not > > > > there. > > > > > > > > so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were > > > > true of himself. > > > > > > > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > > > > about himself. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > > > -geo- > > > > > > No one is here, Geo. > > > > > > Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. > > > > > > You sure don't listen well to me. > > > > He isn't there to listen to you (chuckling ;-). > > Me, too. > > Funny! > > > - D - Munication is a strange business ;-). What's actually the case is that you're not there for him to listen to, nor is he there for you to listen to. How anyone understands a thing ('cept mebbe 'get that cup on the desk for me, please') is a mystery :-p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:23 PM > > > > > Re: intro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > > > > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > > > > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then would > > > > > > > You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > > > > > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > > > > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > > > > > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > > > > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > > > > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > > > > > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > > > > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. > > > > > > > > > > but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to > > > > > know it. > > > > > > > > > > commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the > > > > > self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were > > > > > true of himself. > > > > > > > > > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > > > > > about himself. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > No one is here, Geo. > > > > > > > > Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. > > > > > > > > You sure don't listen well to me. > > > > > > He isn't there to listen to you (chuckling ;-). > > > > Me, too. > > > > Funny! > > > > > > - D - > > Munication is a strange business ;-). What's actually the case is that you're not there for him to listen to, nor is he there for you to listen to. > > How anyone understands a thing ('cept mebbe 'get that cup on the desk for me, please') is a mystery :-p. Mystery upon mysteries. Pile 'em high - on a platter. I've been shattered. Smiles, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:23 PM > > > > > > Re: intro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus: " Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father, forgive them, for they know not what is being done through > > > > > > > > > them........nor can they. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .........oh yeah.......and while You're at it......forgive Yourself > > > > > > > > > for creating all this confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is if You knew better, would You do better? Only then would > > > > > > > > You have have to forgive Yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > > > > > > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > > > > > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > > > > > > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > > > > > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > > > > > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > > > > > > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > > > > > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. J.Krishnamurti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. > > > > > > > > > > > > but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to > > > > > > know it. > > > > > > > > > > > > commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the > > > > > > self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were > > > > > > true of himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > > > > > > about himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > No one is here, Geo. > > > > > > > > > > Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. > > > > > > > > > > You sure don't listen well to me. > > > > > > > > He isn't there to listen to you (chuckling ;-). > > > > > > Me, too. > > > > > > Funny! > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > Munication is a strange business ;-). What's actually the case is that you're not there for him to listen to, nor is he there for you to listen to. > > > > How anyone understands a thing ('cept mebbe 'get that cup on the desk for me, please') is a mystery :-p. > > Mystery upon mysteries. > > Pile 'em high - on a platter. > > I've been shattered. > > Smiles, > > Dan Mebbe the answer is -- nobody understands a thing. Yep, that's pretty much it ;-). Shhhhh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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