Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > What is true in nature? > > toombaru > > Everything is true to its own nature. > -geo- > You could say that is true.......it anything had a true nature. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 12:53:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > fewtch@ writes: > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > ***Thankfully, I've deleted all Booboo's posts since i know from > > > experience they're utterly useless, but I did get the giggles a while > > ago reading > > > Toomy's posts......I think I'm over that now. ~ > > > > Lots & lots of drama :-p. I'm about done reading Toomie's posts again... > > until I'm not, I s'pose ;-). I'm always 'forgetting' I decided to do this > > and that, and decisions aren't serious here in the first place. Why should > > they be? Life is all in fun :-). > > > > > > ****Yeah, I thought I'd see what Dan had to say, and you and i don't have > > a place to chat anymore, but the rest of the group basically just recycles > > the same nonsense over and over. > > Every word of every sentence is a recycling. > I've always been a little psychic. Dan................are you coming out with a book? :-0 toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:21 PM Re: Re: no pattern (Phil) What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. What is true in nature? toombaru Everything is true to its own nature. Better then that: Everything is true as its own nature -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 In a message dated 5/27/2009 12:45:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: > In a message dated 5/27/2009 10:16:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes:> > > I'm not interested.> > > > -- D.> >> > > > One who says that they are not interested.............is.> > > > > > toombaru> > > ***One cause of not being able to form a dialog of mutually shared > context, is a reading comprehension problem. Hehe. > > whhaaaaaaaaaaaaa?:-0toombaru ****StOOOoOooOOOop. How stupid do you think I am? (Don't answer that question) We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 12:53:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > fewtch@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***Thankfully, I've deleted all Booboo's posts since i know from > > > > > > > experience they're utterly useless, but I did get the giggles a while > > > > > > ago reading > > > > > > > Toomy's posts......I think I'm over that now. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots & lots of drama :-p. I'm about done reading Toomie's posts again... > > > > > > until I'm not, I s'pose ;-). I'm always 'forgetting' I decided to do this > > > > > > and that, and decisions aren't serious here in the first place. Why should > > > > > > they be? Life is all in fun :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yeah, I thought I'd see what Dan had to say, and you and i don't have > > > > > > a place to chat anymore, but the rest of the group basically just recycles > > > > > > the same nonsense over and over. > > > > > > > > > > If/when Dan takes off, I'm out of here. Nothing else worthwhile here but you two, and one isn't enough to keep my interest. > > > > > > > > I'm not interesting. > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One who says that they are not interested.............is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > this is true. > > > > but.. > > > > one who says they are not interesting..isn't. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > :-) > > > > > toombaru > It just dawned on me.........you and I are song birds trying to sing the crow dialect. They're just just can't hear the melody. It's kinda sad.......in a way. :-( toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > What is true in nature? > > toombaru > > Everything is true to its own nature. > -geo- > You could say that is true.......it anything had a true nature. toombaru Any and everything has a nature for it is capable of being nature-fied...or pointed...or referred to. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:25 PM > Re: no pattern (Phil) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > > > What is true in nature? > > > > toombaru > > > > Everything is true to its own nature. > > -geo- > > what's an " everything " ? > > .b b.b. > > Any thing pointed out is a thing as is capable of being pointed to. ok point to an everything. > If the ability is only subjective then that is its nature - subjective. > How else? > -geo- subjective has subjective meaning only. i don't know what you're talking about. i'm not subjective nor objective. and i don't give a damn. there is no 'else " ...that's how. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 1:05:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > fewtch writes: > > > > ***Thankfully, I've deleted all Booboo's posts since i know from > > > experience they're utterly useless, but I did get the giggles a > while > > ago reading > > > Toomy's posts......I think I'm over that now. ~ > > > > Lots & lots of drama :-p. I'm about done reading Toomie's posts > again... > > until I'm not, I s'pose ;-). I'm always 'forgetting' I decided to do > this > > and that, and decisions aren't serious here in the first place. Why > should > > they be? Life is all in fun :-). > > > > > > ****Yeah, I thought I'd see what Dan had to say, and you and i don't > have > > a place to chat anymore, but the rest of the group basically just > recycles > > the same nonsense over and over. > > If/when Dan takes off, I'm out of here. Nothing else worthwhile here but > you two, and one isn't enough to keep my interest. > > > > ****I figure most folks on these forums eventually get eaten by the > Neti-Neti monster and turn into zombies. yes the walking dead. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > > > What is true in nature? > > > > toombaru > > > > Everything is true to its own nature. > > -geo- > > > > You could say that is true.......it anything had a true nature. > > toombaru > > Any and everything has a nature for it is capable of being nature-fied...or > pointed...or referred to. > -geo- what's the nature of the wind? point to it..not it's effects. what is it's nature..in nature? tell us true. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:40 PM Re: no pattern (Phil) Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:25 PM > Re: no pattern (Phil) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > > > What is true in nature? > > > > toombaru > > > > Everything is true to its own nature. > > -geo- > > what's an " everything " ? > > .b b.b. > > Any thing pointed out is a thing as is capable of being pointed to. ok point to an everything. > If the ability is only subjective then that is its nature - subjective. > How else? > -geo- subjective has subjective meaning only. i don't know what you're talking about. i'm not subjective nor objective. and i don't give a damn. there is no 'else " ...that's how. ..b b.b. You should be concerned though... as you may be loosing a good chance to be before you where born -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > > > What is true in nature? > > > > toombaru > > > > Everything is true to its own nature. > > -geo- > > > > You could say that is true.......it anything had a true nature. > > toombaru > > Any and everything has a nature for it is capable of being nature-fied...or > pointed...or referred to. > -geo- > What is the true nature of an egg? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 12:53:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > fewtch@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***Thankfully, I've deleted all Booboo's posts since i know from > > > > > > > > experience they're utterly useless, but I did get the giggles a while > > > > > > > ago reading > > > > > > > > Toomy's posts......I think I'm over that now. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots & lots of drama :-p. I'm about done reading Toomie's posts again... > > > > > > > until I'm not, I s'pose ;-). I'm always 'forgetting' I decided to do this > > > > > > > and that, and decisions aren't serious here in the first place. Why should > > > > > > > they be? Life is all in fun :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yeah, I thought I'd see what Dan had to say, and you and i don't have > > > > > > > a place to chat anymore, but the rest of the group basically just recycles > > > > > > > the same nonsense over and over. > > > > > > > > > > > > If/when Dan takes off, I'm out of here. Nothing else worthwhile here but you two, and one isn't enough to keep my interest. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not interesting. > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One who says that they are not interested.............is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > this is true. > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > one who says they are not interesting..isn't. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > It just dawned on me.........you and I are song birds trying to sing the crow dialect. > > They're just just can't hear the melody. > > > It's kinda sad.......in a way. > > > :-( > > > > > toombaru they can't see that it's a love song. they only hear bits and pieces.. a heartbreak melody. it upsets them. natives! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 1:05:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > fewtch@ writes: > > > > > > ***Thankfully, I've deleted all Booboo's posts since i know from > > > > experience they're utterly useless, but I did get the giggles a > > while > > > ago reading > > > > Toomy's posts......I think I'm over that now. ~ > > > > > > Lots & lots of drama :-p. I'm about done reading Toomie's posts > > again... > > > until I'm not, I s'pose ;-). I'm always 'forgetting' I decided to do > > this > > > and that, and decisions aren't serious here in the first place. Why > > should > > > they be? Life is all in fun :-). > > > > > > > > > ****Yeah, I thought I'd see what Dan had to say, and you and i don't > > have > > > a place to chat anymore, but the rest of the group basically just > > recycles > > > the same nonsense over and over. > > > > If/when Dan takes off, I'm out of here. Nothing else worthwhile here but > > you two, and one isn't enough to keep my interest. > > > > > > > > ****I figure most folks on these forums eventually get eaten by the > > Neti-Neti monster and turn into zombies. > > > yes the walking dead. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > Dead man walking...............or doin the crazy hand jive. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:40 PM > Re: no pattern (Phil) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:25 PM > > Re: no pattern (Phil) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > > > > > What is true in nature? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Everything is true to its own nature. > > > -geo- > > > > what's an " everything " ? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Any thing pointed out is a thing as is capable of being pointed to. > > ok point to an everything. > > > If the ability is only subjective then that is its nature - subjective. > > How else? > > -geo- > > subjective has subjective meaning only. > > i don't know what you're talking about. > > i'm not subjective nor objective. > > and i don't give a damn. > > there is no 'else " ...that's how. > > .b b.b. > > You should be concerned though... as you may be loosing a good chance to be > before you where born > -geo- come again? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:43 PM > Re: no pattern (Phil) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > > > > > What is true in nature? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Everything is true to its own nature. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > You could say that is true.......it anything had a true nature. > > > > toombaru > > > > Any and everything has a nature for it is capable of being > > nature-fied...or > > pointed...or referred to. > > -geo- > > what's the nature of the wind? > > point to it..not it's effects. > > what is it's nature..in nature? > > tell us true. > > .b b.b. > > Very simple. Its windiness. Or should it be its doublexisburguerness > -geo- you talk. now point to it. show me. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:57 PM Re: no pattern (Phil) Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:43 PM > Re: no pattern (Phil) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > What is truth again....and what is it relative too........I forgot. > > > > > > What is true in nature? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Everything is true to its own nature. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > You could say that is true.......it anything had a true nature. > > > > toombaru > > > > Any and everything has a nature for it is capable of being > > nature-fied...or > > pointed...or referred to. > > -geo- > > what's the nature of the wind? > > point to it..not it's effects. > > what is it's nature..in nature? > > tell us true. > > .b b.b. > > Very simple. Its windiness. Or should it be its doublexisburguerness > -geo- you talk. now point to it. show me. ..b b.b. //O\O// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 12:53:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > > > > fewtch@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***Thankfully, I've deleted all Booboo's posts since i know from > > > > > > > > > experience they're utterly useless, but I did get the giggles a while > > > > > > > > ago reading > > > > > > > > > Toomy's posts......I think I'm over that now. ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots & lots of drama :-p. I'm about done reading Toomie's posts again... > > > > > > > > until I'm not, I s'pose ;-). I'm always 'forgetting' I decided to do this > > > > > > > > and that, and decisions aren't serious here in the first place. Why should > > > > > > > > they be? Life is all in fun :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Yeah, I thought I'd see what Dan had to say, and you and i don't have > > > > > > > > a place to chat anymore, but the rest of the group basically just recycles > > > > > > > > the same nonsense over and over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If/when Dan takes off, I'm out of here. Nothing else worthwhile here but you two, and one isn't enough to keep my interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One who says that they are not interested.............is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > this is true. > > > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > > > one who says they are not interesting..isn't. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > It just dawned on me.........you and I are song birds trying to sing the crow dialect. > > > > They're just just can't hear the melody. > > > > > > It's kinda sad.......in a way. > > > > > > :-( > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > they can't see that it's a love song. > > they only hear bits and pieces.. > > a heartbreak melody. > > it upsets them. > > natives! > > .b b.b. > Ya know b.b.b...... They trash around in their fevered delirium.......sometimes I just want to put my arms around them and place a cool cloth on their steaming forehead. But they twist and turn......their little salamander arms reach out into the darkness to clutch and hold......but when the light is touched......they recoil back into the familiar. I watch them.....all spippery-slidy in their personal shadownland........eyes clinched shut..... They open their little mouths..... groaking out their misery...... ......and I gotta tell you......It just breaks old toombaru's ever-expanding heart. (I tried to make one of those little sad faces......but it's just not sad enough.) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 In a message dated 5/27/2009 2:19:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: > ***The above is written by a program called Toom (at least according to > the program) which is advising me of something it believes it knows that it > further believes I do not know, and it warns me that the experience is > unpleasant. This program also apparently believes that it evolved, in spite of > the illusory nature of time. (Some programs wonder why I find humor in such > things > > The truth of the matter is that I had that 'unpleasant experience' long > ago and I now see the matter much more clearly than you do (excuse me, than > the Toom program does), but there is no way to communicate that clarity to > you, mostly because you insist on seeing yourself as a program.> > > So........you don't believe in evolution?toombaru **** It's okay, I'll hipity hop from one diversion to another with ya. It's not about belief. I believe I had a dream about a fire breathing dragon last night, but i don't take it so seriously that I talk to folks about how to protect themselves from dragons. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 9:32:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > ****My grandmother was never 'here', and neither are you or me. This is > > what you refuse to get. Year after year you go on insisting that you > exist as > > swirling neumonic debris or memory or some such nonsense. No you don't. > > None of that has any existence. > > The two of you are using the word " you " differently. > > It's a matter of semantics and context. > > Such a dialogue can't produce a coherent mutually shared context. > > Which is typical of so many dialogues. > > And that is fine. > > Truth isn't a product of a mutually shared context, nor is truth a > mutually shared context. > > > -- D. > > > > ****In this case, I don't think it's just a matter of semantics and > context. It's not like we both agree there is a 'vehicle' of perception, and then > that which is aware of this vehicle and more fundamental. It's not like I > happen to be talking about one and Toom happens to be talking about the > other. He doesn't accept the existence of a perceiver (what he sarcastically > calls " Big Self " ), and so to him 'you', 'I', 'me', always point to the same > swirling cloud of neumonic debris that doesn't exist. > > Toom is playing the neti-neti game of 'I don't exist', and the better he > gets at the game, the more he prooves himself a liar. The only way out for > some players is to construct a mental void into which they can banish > themselves. Been there, done that, and it's not the least bit pleasant. > > > > > You are nothing but a program that evolved to seek that which it finds pleasant and avoid that which it finds unpleasant. See that and watch what happens. (warning........it isn't a pleasant experience) :-0 toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 10:13:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > > > It's a matter of semantics and context. > > > > Such a dialogue can't produce a coherent mutually shared context. > > > > > > No dialog can. > > > > ****There can't be a dialog that produces a coherent, mutually shared > context? Puleeeze.....Sheesh!.....Double sheesh!.....Okay, in your case that > may be true. Hehe. > > Can there be a dialog that produces a coherent mutually shared context concerning the true color of Cinderella's dress? toombaru > > > **************We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ > diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. > (http://www.whereitsat.com/?ncid=emlwenew00000004) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 10:16:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > I'm not interested. > > > > -- D. > > > > > > One who says that they are not interested.............is. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ***One cause of not being able to form a dialog of mutually shared > context, is a reading comprehension problem. Hehe. > > whhaaaaaaaaaaaaa? :-0 toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 10:36:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > > this is true. > > > > > > but.. > > > > > > one who says they are not interesting..isn't. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > It just dawned on me.........you and I are song birds trying to sing the > crow dialect. > > They're just just can't hear the melody. > > > It's kinda sad.......in a way. > > > :-( > > > > > toombaru > > > > ****A good example of how we can create our own sadness out of pure mental > fantasy, while at the same time using even this to reinforce the ego > fantasy. > > > > So we create the ego fantasy? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 In a message dated 5/27/2009 3:38:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: > So........you don't believe in evolution?> > > > toombaru> > > > **** It's okay, I'll hipity hop from one diversion to another with ya. > It's not about belief. I believe I had a dream about a fire breathing dragon > last night, but i don't take it so seriously that I talk to folks about how > to protect themselves from dragons.> > >Do you believe that living organisms adapt to their changing environment over time?toombaru ****Yup, that's how the story plays out, but if you're going to hang your hat on a story, why not embrace the whole story; You are a person who was born and will die and experience suffering and joy. Is there more to the story than that? We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 9:32:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > ****My grandmother was never 'here', and neither are you or me. This is > > what you refuse to get. Year after year you go on insisting that you > exist as > > swirling neumonic debris or memory or some such nonsense. No you don't. > > None of that has any existence. > > The two of you are using the word " you " differently. > > It's a matter of semantics and context. > > Such a dialogue can't produce a coherent mutually shared context. > > Which is typical of so many dialogues. > > And that is fine. > > Truth isn't a product of a mutually shared context, nor is truth a > mutually shared context. > > > -- D. > > > > ****In this case, I don't think it's just a matter of semantics and > context. It's not like we both agree there is a 'vehicle' of perception, and then > that which is aware of this vehicle and more fundamental. It's not like I > happen to be talking about one and Toom happens to be talking about the > other. He doesn't accept the existence of a perceiver (what he sarcastically > calls " Big Self " ), and so to him 'you', 'I', 'me', always point to the same > swirling cloud of neumonic debris that doesn't exist. > > Toom is playing the neti-neti game of 'I don't exist', and the better he > gets at the game, the more he prooves himself a liar. The only way out for > some players is to construct a mental void into which they can banish > themselves. Been there, done that, and it's not the least bit pleasant. > you may have tried.. but you didn't make it. if you had.. there would be none of this not pleasant crap. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 10:16:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > I'm not interesting. > > > > -- D. > > > > > > One who says that they are not interested.............is. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ***One cause of not being able to form a dialog of mutually shared > context, is a reading comprehension problem. Hehe. there may be for you a comprehension problem period. evidently from your " take " on what was said..there is. hehe! hoho! haha! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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