Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 it take only death of ego-mind to be free and to be the One....one has ever been....and ever will be many techniques to kill the ego bakhti, karma, jnana, raja, hatha - yoga....or whatever kind of philosophie....means, following/be aware of some personal tendencies .... the imaginary one who is ready to die....and leave this imaginary reality get real identity such identity has nothing in common with worldly stuff.....not in such a way that it should be necessary to " save whatever world " ....or running after other illusions....means, ego-minded stuff. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and performs techniques. All that is functioning is a belief, and no belief can kill itself, nor would it, even if it could. What CAN happen is that ego can convince itself it has killed itself which is entertaining fer sure. In a message dated 07/11/2008 2:28:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: it take only death of ego-mind to be free and to be the One....one has ever been....and ever will bemany techniques to kill the egobakhti, karma, jnana, raja, hatha - yoga....or whatever kind of philosophie....means, following/be aware of some personal tendencies...the imaginary one who is ready to die....and leave this imaginary realityget real identitysuch identity has nothing in common with worldly stuff.....not in such a way that it should be necessary to "save whatever world"....or running after other illusions....means, ego-minded stuff.Marc AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 In a message dated 07/11/2008 2:47:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, yohansky writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and performs > techniques. All that is functioning is a belief, and no belief can kill > itself, nor would it, even if it could. What CAN happen is that ego can convince > itself it has killed itself which is entertaining fer sure.> Have you tried asking ego to take a long vacation? ***What would it be that would be asking ego to do that?AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and performs > techniques. All that is functioning is a belief, and no belief can kill > itself, nor would it, even if it could. What CAN happen is that ego can convince > itself it has killed itself which is entertaining fer sure. > Have you tried asking ego to take a long vacation? > > > In a message dated 07/11/2008 2:28:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > it take only death of ego-mind to be free and to be the One....one has > ever been....and ever will be > > many techniques to kill the ego > > bakhti, karma, jnana, raja, hatha - yoga....or whatever kind of > philosophie....means, following/be aware of some personal tendencies > > ... > > the imaginary one who is ready to die....and leave this imaginary > reality > > get real identity > > such identity has nothing in common with worldly stuff.....not in such > a way that it should be necessary to " save whatever world " ....or > running after other illusions....means, ego-minded stuff. > > > Marc > > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol? redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and performs > techniques. All that is functioning is a belief, and no belief can kill > itself, nor would it, even if it could. What CAN happen is that ego can convince > itself it has killed itself which is entertaining fer sure. > > > > In a message dated 07/11/2008 2:28:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > it take only death of ego-mind to be free and to be the One....one has > ever been....and ever will be > > many techniques to kill the ego > > bakhti, karma, jnana, raja, hatha - yoga....or whatever kind of > philosophie....means, following/be aware of some personal tendencies > > ... > > the imaginary one who is ready to die....and leave this imaginary > reality > > get real identity > > such identity has nothing in common with worldly stuff.....not in such > a way that it should be necessary to " save whatever world " ....or > running after other illusions....means, ego-minded stuff. > > > Marc > Some say that those who call loudest to kill ego, have the biggest ego. Ever thought of shaking hands with your ego? Its a useful tool, for leaving 'important' posts on this group for instance... > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol? redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 In a message dated 07/11/2008 11:28:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, yohansky writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > In a message dated 07/11/2008 2:47:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, > yohansky writes:> > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> >> > > > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and > performs > > techniques. All that is functioning is a belief, and no belief can > kill > > itself, nor would it, even if it could. What CAN happen is that ego > can convince > > itself it has killed itself which is entertaining fer sure.> > > > Have you tried asking ego to take a long vacation?> > > ***What would it be that would be asking ego to do that?Lets open a bottle of scotch and start guessing about that. ***Why bother, it's obviously ego? Well, maybe the Scotch can be opened anyhoo. AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > In a message dated 07/11/2008 2:47:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, > yohansky writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and > performs > > techniques. All that is functioning is a belief, and no belief can > kill > > itself, nor would it, even if it could. What CAN happen is that ego > can convince > > itself it has killed itself which is entertaining fer sure. > > > > Have you tried asking ego to take a long vacation? > > > ***What would it be that would be asking ego to do that? Lets open a bottle of scotch and start guessing about that. > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol? redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 In a message dated 11/10/2008 12:23:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and performs > techniques. yes, truebut still there is the necessity to kill the ego....however....So, kill it by him/herself...if you want ****There's no need to kill the ego, firstly, because there's really nothing there to begin with. Just a set of thoughts, assumptions. Secondly, there's a level of individual identity that must remain in order to remain functional in the illusion. There's no problem with role playing. It just needs to be seen that there is no real person there. It's a matter of noticing what's so rather than the performing of some technique, which can just reinforce the notion of a 'performer'. AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:28:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > ****There's no need to kill the ego, firstly, because there's really nothing > there to begin with. Just a set of thoughts, assumptions. no no ......this your "set of thoughts and assumptions" are exactly the reason for your imaginary self....and so, for a whole world....filled up with imaginary others....etcsuch "thoughts and assumptions" are due to ignorance about real Self. ****Huh? That's what I said. That's ego......imaginary self. Secondly, there's > a level of individual identity that must remain in order to remain functional > in the illusion.that's up to imaginary "you" of course.....on how is the level of individual identity (illusion)...but the higher such level......the more difficult is it to get any awareness of such non-sense ****This level to which I referred is what remains after Awakening. Prior to that, ego is fully intact as the default identity. it need periods of very low level.....to get in touch with Reality.As long there aren't such periods happening...there is darkness.Even hundreds of books can't help out of such situation then.Fact is....people who live in complete darkness & non-sense can't "see" any Guru and teacher....because they simply aren't open to "see" and meet with such beingsThey are blinded by themself.There's no problem with role playing.Oh , yes, true....one can behave & play as stupid and ignorant as one wish to.There is no God or "external power" which care about. ****Again, referring to the role played by the mind/body through whom the Awakening event has occurred. It just needs to be > seen that there is no real person there. It's a matter of noticing what's so > rather than the performing of some technique, which can just reinforce the > notion of a 'performer'.Ok, if you see that there is all illusion....included this your imaginary identity.....then you are detached from illusions and "techniques" etc....But then....there is nobody anymore who need any advises.....and many words of explanations ...and...and.....except you are addicted to some pseudo Guru role or something like that.....lolMarc ****Did somebody beat you senseless as a child or what? Hehe. AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and performs > techniques. yes, true but still there is the necessity to kill the ego....however.... So, kill it by him/herself...if you want All that is functioning is a belief, and no belief can kill > itself, nor would it, even if it could. What CAN happen is that ego can convince > itself it has killed itself which is entertaining fer sure. is it a belief when people feel misery and pain? is it due to belief only, that people are running constantly after satisfaction and happiness? all this misery and pain (illusions) are due to the attachment to a whole world....means, to a whole body system, who is acting like a prisoner of/to the sense organs....etc.... The same System (mind) can " understand " the reason of all this misery and pain or this little happiness here & there....and so choose some more deep path and " understandings " ..... the result is light, peace and love.... as we all know...no?... Marc > > > > In a message dated 07/11/2008 2:28:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > it take only death of ego-mind to be free and to be the One....one has > ever been....and ever will be > > many techniques to kill the ego > > bakhti, karma, jnana, raja, hatha - yoga....or whatever kind of > philosophie....means, following/be aware of some personal tendencies > > ... > > the imaginary one who is ready to die....and leave this imaginary > reality > > get real identity > > such identity has nothing in common with worldly stuff.....not in such > a way that it should be necessary to " save whatever world " ....or > running after other illusions....means, ego-minded stuff. > > > Marc > > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol? redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , " johanhb " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and > performs > > techniques. All that is functioning is a belief, and no belief can > kill > > itself, nor would it, even if it could. What CAN happen is that ego > can convince > > itself it has killed itself which is entertaining fer sure. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 07/11/2008 2:28:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > dennis_travis33@ writes: > > > > > > it take only death of ego-mind to be free and to be the One....one > has > > ever been....and ever will be > > > > many techniques to kill the ego > > > > bakhti, karma, jnana, raja, hatha - yoga....or whatever kind of > > philosophie....means, following/be aware of some personal > tendencies > > > > ... > > > > the imaginary one who is ready to die....and leave this imaginary > > reality > > > > get real identity > > > > such identity has nothing in common with worldly stuff.....not in > such > > a way that it should be necessary to " save whatever world " ....or > > running after other illusions....means, ego-minded stuff. > > > > > > Marc > > > > Some say that those who call loudest to kill ego, have the biggest > ego. so do you believe what they say?.... > > Ever thought of shaking hands with your ego? Its a useful tool, for > leaving 'important' posts on this group for instance... shaking hands? ok, let's shaking hands if you like... my post aren't of any importance nothing in the imaginary world is of real importance except Silence of/from/for/about ...being Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and > all other > > Holiday needs. Search Now. > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol? > redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/10/2008 12:23:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > No technique will kill the ego since it is ego that conceives and > performs > > techniques. > > > yes, true > but still there is the necessity to kill the ego....however.... > So, kill it by him/herself...if you want > > > > ****There's no need to kill the ego, firstly, because there's really nothing > there to begin with. Just a set of thoughts, assumptions. no no ......this your " set of thoughts and assumptions " are exactly the reason for your imaginary self....and so, for a whole world....filled up with imaginary others....etc such " thoughts and assumptions " are due to ignorance about real Self. Secondly, there's > a level of individual identity that must remain in order to remain functional > in the illusion. that's up to imaginary " you " of course.....on how is the level of individual identity (illusion)... but the higher such level......the more difficult is it to get any awareness of such non-sense it need periods of very low level.....to get in touch with Reality. As long there aren't such periods happening...there is darkness. Even hundreds of books can't help out of such situation then. Fact is....people who live in complete darkness & non-sense can't " see " any Guru and teacher....because they simply aren't open to " see " and meet with such beings They are blinded by themself. There's no problem with role playing. Oh , yes, true....one can behave & play as stupid and ignorant as one wish to. There is no God or " external power " which care about. It just needs to be > seen that there is no real person there. It's a matter of noticing what's so > rather than the performing of some technique, which can just reinforce the > notion of a 'performer'. Ok, if you see that there is all illusion....included this your imaginary identity.....then you are detached from illusions and " techniques " etc.... But then....there is nobody anymore who need any advises.....and many words of explanations ...and...and..... except you are addicted to some pseudo Guru role or something like that..... lol Marc > > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol? redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:28:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > ****There's no need to kill the ego, firstly, because there's > really nothing > > there to begin with. Just a set of thoughts, assumptions. > > > no no ......this your " set of thoughts and assumptions " are exactly > the reason for your imaginary self....and so, for a whole > world....filled up with imaginary others....etc > > such " thoughts and assumptions " are due to ignorance about real Self. > > > > ****Huh? That's what I said. That's ego......imaginary self. > > > > > > Secondly, there's > > a level of individual identity that must remain in order to remain > functional > > in the illusion. > > > that's up to imaginary " you " of course.....on how is the level of > individual identity (illusion)... > > but the higher such level......the more difficult is it to get any > awareness of such non-sense > > > > > > ****This level to which I referred is what remains after Awakening. Prior to > that, ego is fully intact as the default identity. -How do you know.....you told everybody in here recently that you aren't awakened....lol are you playing few roles?....and why playing few roles?... do you like little funny games?.... > > > it need periods of very low level.....to get in touch with Reality. > > As long there aren't such periods happening...there is darkness. > > Even hundreds of books can't help out of such situation then. > > Fact is....people who live in complete darkness & non-sense can't " see " > any Guru and teacher....because they simply aren't open to " see " and > meet with such beings > > They are blinded by themself. > > > > There's no problem with role playing. > > Oh , yes, true....one can behave & play as stupid and ignorant as one > wish to. > > There is no God or " external power " which care about. > > > > ****Again, referring to the role played by the mind/body through whom the > Awakening event has occurred. - Ok, today you are awakened so let's see what will happen tomorrow... Marc - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 g o o d--- On Mon, 11/10/08, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote: dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 Re: one path for ego-minds...onlyNisargadatta Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 3:59 PM Nisargadatta, souldreamone@ ... wrote:>> > > > In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:28:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33@ ... writes:> > > ****There's no need to kill the ego, firstly, because there's > really nothing > > there to begin with. Just a set of thoughts, assumptions. > > > no no ......this your "set of thoughts and assumptions" are exactly > the reason for your imaginary self....and so, for a whole > world....filled up with imaginary others....etc> > such "thoughts and assumptions" are due to ignorance about real Self.> > > > ****Huh? That's what I said. That's ego......imaginary self.> > > > > > Secondly, there's > > a level of individual identity that must remain in order to remain > functional > > in the illusion.> > > that's up to imaginary "you" of course.....on how is the level of > individual identity (illusion).. .> > but the higher such level......the more difficult is it to get any > awareness of such non-sense> > > > > > ****This level to which I referred is what remains after Awakening. Prior to > that, ego is fully intact as the default identity.-How do you know.....you told everybody in here recently that you aren't awakened.... lolare you playing few roles?....and why playing few roles?...do you like little funny games?....> > > it need periods of very low level.....to get in touch with Reality.> > As long there aren't such periods happening... there is darkness.> > Even hundreds of books can't help out of such situation then.> > Fact is....people who live in complete darkness & non- sense can't "see" > any Guru and teacher....because they simply aren't open to "see" and > meet with such beings> > They are blinded by themself.> > > > There's no problem with role playing.> > Oh , yes, true....one can behave & play as stupid and ignorant as one > wish to.> > There is no God or "external power" which care about.> > > > ****Again, referring to the role played by the mind/body through whom the > Awakening event has occurred. - Ok, today you are awakened solet's see what will happen tomorrow...Marc- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 In a message dated 10/11/2008 2:30:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > ****This level to which I referred is what remains after Awakening. Prior to > that, ego is fully intact as the default identity.-How do you know.....you told everybody in here recently that you aren't awakened....lolare you playing few roles?....and why playing few roles?...do you like little funny games?.... ***Because I'm neither blind nor stupid. Call any old guru by his name, and he'll say "What?".AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 In a message dated 11/10/2008 10:32:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, htiek0 writes: UNDERSTANDING can kill an ego. Even the ego that understands is not an issue since'True nature'....is 'beyond' this illusionary space where there is seemingbirth and death of ego experiences and worlds. I would suggest to stay away from the belief that you are not able to handle any ego. ***Clarity can dissolve the illusion of ego. It may be just semantics, but I start to wonder when folks talk about killing the ego or handling the ego. It's ego that thinks of killing and handling. What stands proudly over the corpse and declares it has killed ego? Illusions are never defeated or controlled because there's nothing there. The realization that there's nothing there simply results in losing interest in the thing that was imagined to be there. AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 UNDERSTANDING can kill an ego. Even the ego that understands is not an issue since 'True nature'....is 'beyond' this illusionary space where there is seeming birth and death of ego experiences and worlds. I would suggest to stay away from the belief that you are not able to handle any ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 In a message dated 11/11/2008 12:06:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > ***Clarity can dissolve the illusion of ego. It may be just semantics, but I > start to wonder when folks talk about killing the ego or handling the ego. > It's ego that thinks of killing and handling. What stands proudly over the > corpse and declares it has killed ego?> > Illusions are never defeated or controlled because there's nothing there. > The realization that there's nothing there simply results in losing interest in > the thing that was imagined to be there. ego is killing him/herself....already continiously since birth....even if ego isn't aware aboutat least...ego will maybe start to awake at the end....before "death"So...the discussion about "killing the ego" is about a faster process to such ego kill.Marc ***As I see it, ego is continually reinforcing itself and adding rooms, which is why the older we are when we start, the more clutter has to be disposed of. Ego will never, ever awake. AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 In a message dated 11/11/2008 1:46:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: continious harmony between such entity, constantly in move (ego-system)...and the essense of being.....is like death of egodeath of ego means, no more attachment to any worldly things....because of unity, peace and lovebecause of non-dualityMarc ****What entity? You mean ego? Ego is not an entity. AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 In a message dated 11/11/2008 2:56:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > > > In a message dated 11/11/2008 1:46:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes:> > continious harmony between such entity, constantly in move (ego-> system)...and the essense of being.....is like death of ego> > death of ego means, no more attachment to any worldly things....> > because of unity, peace and love> > because of non-duality> > > Marc> > > ****What entity? You mean ego? Ego is not an entity. so what else is ego in your opinion?are you one of this believers who stay hard for "there is no ego!"....?Marc ***Ego is a collection of thoughts referring to an imaginary person. A misconception. A false assumption. AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/11/2008 2:30:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > ****This level to which I referred is what remains after > Awakening. Prior to > > that, ego is fully intact as the default identity. > > > > > -How do you know.....you told everybody in here recently that you > aren't awakened....lol > are you playing few roles?....and why playing few roles?... > do you like little funny games?.... > > > > ***Because I'm neither blind nor stupid. Call any old guru by his name, and > he'll say " What? " . great Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/10/2008 10:32:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > htiek0 writes: > > UNDERSTANDING can kill an ego. > > > Even the ego that understands is not an issue since > > 'True nature'....is 'beyond' this illusionary space where there is seeming > > birth and death of ego experiences and worlds. > > I would suggest to stay away from the belief that you are not able to handle > any ego. > > > > ***Clarity can dissolve the illusion of ego. It may be just semantics, but I > start to wonder when folks talk about killing the ego or handling the ego. > It's ego that thinks of killing and handling. What stands proudly over the > corpse and declares it has killed ego? > > Illusions are never defeated or controlled because there's nothing there. > The realization that there's nothing there simply results in losing interest in > the thing that was imagined to be there. ego is killing him/herself....already continiously since birth.... even if ego isn't aware about at least...ego will maybe start to awake at the end....before " death " So...the discussion about " killing the ego " is about a faster process to such ego kill. Marc > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol? redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/11/2008 12:06:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > ***Clarity can dissolve the illusion of ego. It may be just > semantics, but I > > start to wonder when folks talk about killing the ego or handling > the ego. > > It's ego that thinks of killing and handling. What stands proudly > over the > > corpse and declares it has killed ego? > > > > Illusions are never defeated or controlled because there's nothing > there. > > The realization that there's nothing there simply results in > losing interest in > > the thing that was imagined to be there. > > > ego is killing him/herself....already continiously since birth.... > > even if ego isn't aware about > > at least...ego will maybe start to awake at the end....before " death " > > So...the discussion about " killing the ego " is about a faster process > to such ego kill. > > > Marc > > > > ***As I see it, ego is continually reinforcing itself and adding rooms, > which is why the older we are when we start, the more clutter has to be disposed > of. > > Ego will never, ever awake. > would say....ego would never, ever like to die such attitude is in constant inner fight/tension with the " heart & soul " or " essence " ....which Is....free....and will never die ego is related to the body system...and so, to the world (system) striving to survive....even it's of complete non-sense to strive for anything....because there Is already liberation of heart & soul... .... continious harmony between such entity, constantly in move (ego- system)...and the essense of being.....is like death of ego death of ego means, no more attachment to any worldly things.... because of unity, peace and love because of non-duality Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/11/2008 1:46:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > continious harmony between such entity, constantly in move (ego- > system)...and the essense of being.....is like death of ego > > death of ego means, no more attachment to any worldly things.... > > because of unity, peace and love > > because of non-duality > > > Marc > > > ****What entity? You mean ego? Ego is not an entity. so what else is ego in your opinion? are you one of this believers who stay hard for " there is no ego! " ....? Marc > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol? redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/11/2008 2:56:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/11/2008 1:46:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > dennis_travis33@ writes: > > > > continious harmony between such entity, constantly in move (ego- > > system)...and the essense of being.....is like death of ego > > > > death of ego means, no more attachment to any worldly things.... > > > > because of unity, peace and love > > > > because of non-duality > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > ****What entity? You mean ego? Ego is not an entity. > > > so what else is ego in your opinion? > > are you one of this believers who stay hard for " there is no > ego! " ....? > > > > Marc > > > > ***Ego is a collection of thoughts referring to an imaginary person. A > misconception. A false assumption. > > would say that the collection of thoughts, and the related imaginary person are such entity doesn't matter if one see it as misconception or assumption.....it's something working/happening through the limitations of time and space. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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