Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Mats " <hyl894t wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Mats " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > > > <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > > > > " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who > > > > > > > > expressed > > > > > > > > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > group. - Bill > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a > > > > > > > > reminder > > > > > > > > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > > > > > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > > > > > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > > > > > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your > > > > > > > > mind! > > > > > > > > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > > > > > > > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called > > > > > > > > problems... > > > > > > > > > not only " stress " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > > > > > > > > staying in heartland - > > > > > > > > > whatever the mind is offering...not going > > > > > > > > there...not playing that > > > > > > > > > game... > > > > > > > > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > > > > > > > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into > > > > > > > > mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attempt to 'stay in the heartland' is merely one > > > > > > > > more futile > > > > > > > > attempt to avoid the stress of identification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a bromide for a condition that does not exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How's it workin out for you so far? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somehow, throught direct experience, staying in the > > > > > > > heartland is working magic in so many levels, it would > > > > > > > blow your mind. > > > > > > > Want to talk about it? > > > > > > > Want to try? > > > > > > > Want to prove that it is all illusion? > > > > > > > Go ahead, have a field day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is thought that invents the idea that 'heart' is > somehow > > > better > > > > > > then what it calls 'mind'. > > > > > > > > > > > > In actuality...these terms are meaningless and set up one > more > > > > > > delusional quest in which one is sought....the other is > > > avoided. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just more delusional floundering within the dream > of > > > duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh here you are toombaru, > > > > > once again to be our safety net! > > > > > > > > > > I bet you wonder what lost sheep we would > > > > > be without you... > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So..........what do you think about heart vs mind? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Are there actually two? > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the conceptual context......the terms are meanigless. > > The conceptual-mind attempts to explain its imaginary mental- > overlay > > by diving into its bucket of words....which is alone the cause of > its > > dilemma. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Shot like a magnetic oil-pump into the aorta of cerebral delusion, > drowning in it's own finding, > while attempting to claim it's discovery of inner fullness. > > And still, the moon shines it's pale reflection into the pond of > imagination..... > > What is now? > And what should we do about the moon? 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