Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Some of you may be confused about what the " ego " is. The ego is simply the illusionary conflict with this moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Some of you may be confused about what the " ego " is. The ego is simply > the illusionary conflict with this moment. maybe the ego cause this " illusionary conflict " ..... or if you want.....both happen at same time.....and both cause each other.... there is " nothing else " which could cause any conflict....except ego- mind Regards Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > >Some of you may be confused about what the " ego " is. The ego is simply >the illusionary conflict with this moment. It is a term for something Which you cannot imagine Because then it would bite Its own tale (Outch! And it did not even exist in the first place) Lolila Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Some of you may be confused about what the " ego " is. The ego is simply > > the illusionary conflict with this moment. > > maybe the ego cause this " illusionary conflict " ..... > or if you want.....both happen at same time.....and both cause each > other.... > > there is " nothing else " which could cause any conflict....except ego- > mind > > Regards > > Marc > > > Hi Marc, I think it would be more correct to say that the ego IS this conflict. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Some of you may be confused about what the " ego " is. The ego is simply > > > the illusionary conflict with this moment. > > > > maybe the ego cause this " illusionary conflict " ..... > > or if you want.....both happen at same time.....and both cause each > > other.... > > > > there is " nothing else " which could cause any conflict....except ego- > > mind > > > > Regards > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Hi Marc, > > I think it would be more correct to say that the ego IS this conflict. > > al. Hi Al., (exactly) .....but don't tell to " anybody " .... because some ego-minds don't " see " even the conflict.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > >Some of you may be confused about what the " ego " is. The ego is simply > >the illusionary conflict with this moment. > > It is a term for something > Which you cannot imagine > Because then it would bite > Its own tale > > (Outch! > And it did not even > exist in the first place) > > > Lolila > Stefan > Not imagine, but we can directly see that something in us is AWARE of our thoughts, is aware of the ego, so to speak. Only the mature seeker can see this. A person who is totally identified with his or her thinking cannot see this very clearly. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some of you may be confused about what the " ego " is. The ego is > simply > > > > the illusionary conflict with this moment. > > > > > > maybe the ego cause this " illusionary conflict " ..... > > > or if you want.....both happen at same time.....and both cause > each > > > other.... > > > > > > there is " nothing else " which could cause any conflict....except > ego- > > > mind > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marc, > > > > I think it would be more correct to say that the ego IS this > conflict. > > > > al. > > Hi Al., > > (exactly) > ....but don't tell to " anybody " .... > > because some ego-minds don't " see " even the conflict.... > > > > Yepp. One has to see the total movement of thought (and emotions and sense perceptions) in oneself. This SEEING is unconditioned at its root and becomes conditioned as it moves into the world of form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: >Not imagine, but we can directly see that something in us is AWARE of >our thoughts, is aware of the ego, so to speak. Only the mature >seeker can see this. A person who is totally identified with his or >her thinking cannot see this very clearly. Beloved Anders Are you a mature seeker? How mature? What do you seek? And why? Can you resist now the itch to post an instant answer? And act like a real seeker? Or are you still a real knower? A know it all? With whom are you identified, Anders? Or (which is the same): NOT identified? Who is Anders? Which road does he walk down? Where will it end? Easy like a sunday morning... Lovely Anders Wonderful perfect being Wants all But has it all So easy... lolila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > >Not imagine, but we can directly see that something in us is AWARE of > >our thoughts, is aware of the ego, so to speak. Only the mature > >seeker can see this. A person who is totally identified with his or > >her thinking cannot see this very clearly. > > Beloved Anders > Are you a mature seeker? > How mature? > What do you seek? > And why? > > Can you resist now the itch to post an instant answer? > And act like a real seeker? > Or are you still a real knower? > A know it all? > > With whom are you identified, Anders? > Or (which is the same): > NOT identified? > > Who is Anders? > Which road does he walk down? > Where will it end? > > Easy like a sunday morning... > Lovely Anders > Wonderful perfect being > Wants all > But has it all > So easy... > > lolila > The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a contradiction in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a group here in the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I have joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my application form. The owner of the group welcomed me with the words " couriosity killed the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I think I stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how boring maturity must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you know... Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. > > There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a contradiction > in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a group here in > the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I have > joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my application form. > The owner of the group welcomed me with the words " couriosity killed > the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I think I > stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how boring maturity > must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you know... > > Stefan read in a recent message that this kind of " mature seekers " feel " hate " sometimes......... maybe there is one " mature hate " existing.....?.... lol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. > > There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a contradiction > in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a group here in > the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I have > joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my application form. > The owner of the group welcomed me with the words " couriosity killed > the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I think I > stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how boring maturity > must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you know... > > Stefan > I don't remember in what context I used the word " mature seeker " , but the less ego identification there is, the more mature the seeker is. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. > > > > There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a contradiction > > in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a group here in > > the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I have > > joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my application form. > > The owner of the group welcomed me with the words " couriosity killed > > the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I think I > > stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how boring maturity > > must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you know... > > > > Stefan > > read in a recent message that this kind of " mature seekers " feel " hate " > sometimes......... > maybe there is one " mature hate " existing.....?.... > > lol > > > When there is no (serious) hate, there is no seeker. )) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. > > > > > > There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a contradiction > > > in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a group here in > > > the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I have > > > joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my application form. > > > The owner of the group welcomed me with the words " couriosity killed > > > the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I think I > > > stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how boring maturity > > > must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you know... > > > > > > Stefan > > > > read in a recent message that this kind of " mature seekers " feel " hate " > > sometimes......... > > maybe there is one " mature hate " existing.....?.... > > > > lol > > > > > > > > When there is no (serious) hate, there is no seeker. )) Lol or there has never been any seeker feeling (serious) hate.....except.... (you know) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. > > > > > > > > There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a > contradiction > > > > in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a group > here in > > > > the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I have > > > > joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my application > form. > > > > The owner of the group welcomed me with the words " couriosity > killed > > > > the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I > think I > > > > stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how boring > maturity > > > > must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you know... > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > read in a recent message that this kind of " mature seekers " > feel " hate " > > > sometimes......... > > > maybe there is one " mature hate " existing.....?.... > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > When there is no (serious) hate, there is no seeker. )) > > > > Lol > > or > > there has never been any seeker feeling (serious) hate.....except.... > (you know) > > > That is only true when there is no seeker. When there is a seeker, then what you say is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@o...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. > > > > > > > > > > There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a > > contradiction > > > > > in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a group > > here in > > > > > the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I have > > > > > joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my application > > form. > > > > > The owner of the group welcomed me with the words " couriosity > > killed > > > > > the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I > > think I > > > > > stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how boring > > maturity > > > > > must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you know... > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > read in a recent message that this kind of " mature seekers " > > feel " hate " > > > > sometimes......... > > > > maybe there is one " mature hate " existing.....?.... > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When there is no (serious) hate, there is no seeker. )) > > > > > > > > Lol > > > > or > > > > there has never been any seeker feeling (serious) hate.....except.... > > (you know) > > > > > > > > That is only true when there is no seeker. When there is a seeker, > then what you say is not true. There will never be any " other " seeker than yourself..... " who " is lost in Maya please wake up..... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " > <s.petersilge@o...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a > > > contradiction > > > > > > in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a > group > > > here in > > > > > > the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I > have > > > > > > joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my > application > > > form. > > > > > > The owner of the group welcomed me with the > words " couriosity > > > killed > > > > > > the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I > > > think I > > > > > > stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how > boring > > > maturity > > > > > > must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you > know... > > > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > read in a recent message that this kind of " mature seekers " > > > feel " hate " > > > > > sometimes......... > > > > > maybe there is one " mature hate " existing.....?.... > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When there is no (serious) hate, there is no seeker. )) > > > > > > > > > > > > Lol > > > > > > or > > > > > > there has never been any seeker feeling (serious) > hate.....except.... > > > (you know) > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is only true when there is no seeker. When there is a seeker, > > then what you say is not true. > > > There will never be any " other " seeker than yourself..... " who " is > lost in Maya > > please wake up..... > > For you it may be true that there is no seeker, but for me there is a seeker because I am still identified with my ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " > > <s.petersilge@o...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > > > > > > > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The mature seeker sees what that which is prior to form. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is just the question if " mature seeker " is not a > > > > contradiction > > > > > > > in itself. But, as we speak about maturity... there is a > > group > > > > here in > > > > > > > the neighbourhood where only mature people are admitted. I > > have > > > > > > > joined, out of couriosity, which I also said in my > > application > > > > form. > > > > > > > The owner of the group welcomed me with the > > words " couriosity > > > > killed > > > > > > > the cat " , followed by a twinkling smiley. Funny, isnt it. I > > > > think I > > > > > > > stayed there for one or two weeks just to discover how > > boring > > > > maturity > > > > > > > must be and how... retarded. I am more for lolila, you > > know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > read in a recent message that this kind of " mature seekers " > > > > feel " hate " > > > > > > sometimes......... > > > > > > maybe there is one " mature hate " existing.....?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When there is no (serious) hate, there is no seeker. )) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lol > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > there has never been any seeker feeling (serious) > > hate.....except.... > > > > (you know) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is only true when there is no seeker. When there is a seeker, > > > then what you say is not true. > > > > > > There will never be any " other " seeker than yourself..... " who " is > > lost in Maya > > > > please wake up..... > > > > > > For you it may be true that there is no seeker, but for me there is a > seeker because I am still identified with my ego. no (free) choice to be seeker....or not.... it depends on the attitudes ....to oneSelf.... ....a path that " we " share here....for some moments of time Regards Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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