Email received at Nisargadatta.net from John 89

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Dear Whoever,

 

In the book (Consciousness and the

Absolute) Nisargadatta seems to be saying that having awareness of

the self is temporary by saying that beingness is related to the

body. I don't think this makes much sense because Nisargadatta says

to not identify ourselves with the body. If we don't identify

ourselves with the body,As Nisargadatta said we should not do, and

yet say that beingness or awareness comes from the body then how is

that useful? Nisargadatta seems to be implying that we die when the

body dies or we still exsist after the body is gone. He gives double

meanings by using the same wprds in different ways. So...which is it?

According to Nisargadatta we are either of the body and will die with

the body or we will still exsist after the form of the body passes

away. Ho does it help in any way for a person not to identify with

the body if they're very awareness of themselves,as awareness, is to

be snuffed out when the body dies? This almost sounds like one should

not meditate,should not go into the absolute, because if

beingness,consciousness, or self awareness is time bound and dies

then what is the point in attempting to merge with what some call the

absolute if that experience is not an eternal one? If there is such a

thing called " The absolute " and it is us because he says " You are

that " then that can only mean that you and me as the experiencer will

never die because you are that and I am that. If I had no awareness

after my body passed away then there is no such thing as " The

absolute " because there would be no being of awareness to

experience " The absolute " and you know this to be true that we can

experience " THE ABSOLUTE " because we have been in that silent state of

presence of " I AM " . So...if we are " That " and the nature of

the " Absolute " is eternal then self awareness and beingness are

eternal and not of the body. To say that my beingness or anybody

elses beingness is of the body is to equate the " Absolute " with the

body because " YOU " who are the " I AM " are indeed the " Eternal " . You

cannot " Merge " with what you already are.... " The Absolute " , but you

can make yourself think that you are not the " Absolute " ...you can

make yourself think that you are not the " I AM " . The real truth is

that you have more power than you think because you are the " I AM " .

You decide whether you as an individual will remain exsisting even

after the body has passed into dust. If you decide that you are an

illusion and that you are not permanent then you are not " I AM " and

you have no connection with " The Absolute " nor can you merge with it,

but to say that you as an individual,and everyone else and their

beingness, are of the body and an illusion is to say that you and

every other experiencer are not eternal or of the " Absolute " . You are

either the one or the other and you cannot be both. You are either a

single individualized _expression of the absolute eternal " ONE "

exsisting forever as you please or you are a being that will loose

self beingness " Self Awareness/Consciousness " and be no more because

without an experiencer there is no experience and with no experience

of being conscious there is no witness to be aware of self awareness

of which the " I AM " or " Absolute is " . Yes, we are not urine, but each

one of us as an individual consciouness are not an illusion either.

Who would make a pious claim that the witness who experiences the

inner silence to know " I AM " or the absolute is an illusion

himself?!!!! To say that is all together an illusion is to say that

there is no reason to even begin meditation or knowing the " I AM "

or " The Absolute " . Listen...really try and trust your own knowing

within!!! Does it make sense to meditate or know what Nisargadatta

calls the " I AM " or to do what he calls merging with " The Absolute "

if the very beingness and self aware idividual that you know yourself

to be is going to not be aware of it'self or yourself ever again?

Think about that. My experience in my years of meditation says that

we are each a an eternal single individualized _expression of " The

Absolute " and that just as in many scripyures around the world say " We

are in the Image of the Absolute!!!! If we are born from the absolute

and are in it's image then we have all it's qualities by infinite

metaphysical sympathetic,interdimensional powers and energies. I

experience the Absolute as a void of infinite potentiality that

births us and everything else and to experince it within is to be of

it's vibrational rate which is.... that which comes from being in

the now and " I AM " of inner silence.

 

My name is John and I am now 89 years of age about to permanently

leave my body conciously. I have been able to leave my body at will

since I was 7 years of age and I know that we shall always be unless

we decide not to be. You are free do be forever and to develope all

your powers and overcome the chaos laws of nature or free to not do

this We can either remain a seperate individualized _expression of

the absolute being connected to the all or we can permanently merge

with the absolute to become apart of the natural forces and energies

of chaos and structure/order. Just as Neo said in that futuristic

movie called the Matrix " What you do next is up to you " . What

Nisargadatta said and what his guru said had some great lessons

within, but we should never halt to the words of anyone else not even

to mine, but instead we should experiment with various modes of

meditation to see what is and what is not until the day of our bodies

pass into dust. For anyone to teach that there is only one truth is

fallacy because that person from the start takes the position of

authority over the student and keeps the student from ever knowing

whatever else could be known. Any person who says that their words

are more true than anothers are stunting the growth of the one

seeking even my own words to you. It should be enough to reveal to a

student the various ways and modes of mediation so that they can

discover for themselves what is true becuase whatever else we here

from outside of ourselves is subjective conjecture....even what I

have said in the lines further above.

 

John,

Age:89

By shifting my attention within and around my body I have attained

control of my energy body and can stir my way to where I wish to be

out of the body.

 

Wish me a good trip to wherever I may go.