Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 ..... > Call it Oneness, > call it Wholeness, > > ( None of them really describe it. ) > > > > But, then, as soon as a threat is perceived, > the " other " is felt and so is ...the " Me " ! ..... ( I guess) That this process is SAME in animals too ! There is peace, there is Silence, Oneness, Wholeness, Unity ... But, as soon as a threat in sight, As in " dog for a cat " , " lion for a lamb " , This Unity is somewhat temporarily Broken ! The " leela " is No longer just a " leela " ... The `impersonal' " All One Play " becomes somewhat ... `Personal', Now ! Difference in human is that, we have made this THREAT, this " other " somewhat `automatic' and EVER PRESENT ! Every Morning, as soon as you get up, ....it might HIT you as an `ALARM' saying ... " get up or " YOU " might lose your job ! " ( Threat, Survival ) Or, as an Email, a News, the Media, the Newspaper ... and, throughout out the day this OTHER gets repeated, strengthened, cultivated, reinforced and maintained in `N' ways in various interactions ! ( " You " do this or this might happen ... " You " do this else " I " will " do " ... " this to YOU ! " " you " DO this by The, else ... ) This threat becomes an Ever Present, `All Encompassing' Reality ... Many even go to bed with the thoughts of this Other and threat and ... 'get' it even in Dreams ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > .... > > > Call it Oneness, > > call it Wholeness, > > > > ( None of them really describe it. ) > > > > > > > > But, then, as soon as a threat is perceived, > > the " other " is felt and so is ...the " Me " ! > > .... > > ( I guess) > > That this process is SAME in animals too ! > > There is peace, > there is Silence, Oneness, Wholeness, Unity ... > > But, as soon as a threat in sight, > > As in " dog for a cat " , > " lion for a lamb " , > > This Unity is somewhat temporarily Broken ! > > > The " leela " is No longer just a " leela " ... > > The `impersonal' " All One Play " becomes somewhat ... `Personal', Now ! > > > Difference in human is that, > we have made this THREAT, this " other " somewhat `automatic' > and EVER PRESENT ! > > > Every Morning, > as soon as you get up, > ...it might HIT you as an `ALARM' saying > ... " get up or " YOU " might lose your job ! " > > ( Threat, Survival ) > > > Or, as an Email, > a News, the Media, the Newspaper ... > > and, throughout out the day this OTHER > gets repeated, strengthened, cultivated, reinforced > and maintained in `N' ways in various interactions ! > > ( " You " do this or this might happen ... > > " You " do this else " I " will " do " ... " this to YOU ! " > > " you " DO this by The, else ... ) > > > This threat becomes an Ever Present, > `All Encompassing' Reality ... > > > Many even go to bed with the thoughts > of this Other and threat and ... > > 'get' it even in Dreams ! In Oneness there can be no real threat, only Oneness playing a game of hide and seek. So my idea is that if we connect to Oneness, then we are everything and totally indestructible. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > .... > > > > > Call it Oneness, > > > call it Wholeness, > > > > > > ( None of them really describe it. ) > > > > > > > > > > > > But, then, as soon as a threat is perceived, > > > the " other " is felt and so is ...the " Me " ! > > > > .... > > > > ( I guess) > > > > That this process is SAME in animals too ! > > > > There is peace, > > there is Silence, Oneness, Wholeness, Unity ... > > > > But, as soon as a threat in sight, > > > > As in " dog for a cat " , > > " lion for a lamb " , > > > > This Unity is somewhat temporarily Broken ! > > > > > > The " leela " is No longer just a " leela " ... > > > > The `impersonal' " All One Play " becomes somewhat ... `Personal', > Now ! > > > > > > Difference in human is that, > > we have made this THREAT, this " other " somewhat `automatic' > > and EVER PRESENT ! > > > > > > Every Morning, > > as soon as you get up, > > ...it might HIT you as an `ALARM' saying > > ... " get up or " YOU " might lose your job ! " > > > > ( Threat, Survival ) > > > > > > Or, as an Email, > > a News, the Media, the Newspaper ... > > > > and, throughout out the day this OTHER > > gets repeated, strengthened, cultivated, reinforced > > and maintained in `N' ways in various interactions ! > > > > ( " You " do this or this might happen ... > > > > " You " do this else " I " will " do " ... " this to YOU ! " > > > > " you " DO this by The, else ... ) > > > > > > This threat becomes an Ever Present, > > `All Encompassing' Reality ... > > > > > > Many even go to bed with the thoughts > > of this Other and threat and ... > > > > 'get' it even in Dreams ! > > > In Oneness there can be no real threat, only Oneness playing a game > of hide and seek. So my idea is that if we connect to Oneness, then > we are everything and totally indestructible. Where is " we " in ONENESS ? > > al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 - adithya_comming Nisargadatta Monday, June 13, 2005 6:57 PM Re: " me " - the 'rebirth' ! Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > .... > > > > > Call it Oneness, > > > call it Wholeness, > > > > > > ( None of them really describe it. ) > > > > > > > > > > > > But, then, as soon as a threat is perceived, > > > the " other " is felt and so is ...the " Me " ! > > > > .... > > > > ( I guess) > > > > That this process is SAME in animals too ! > > > > There is peace, > > there is Silence, Oneness, Wholeness, Unity ... > > > > But, as soon as a threat in sight, > > > > As in " dog for a cat " , > > " lion for a lamb " , > > > > This Unity is somewhat temporarily Broken ! > > > > > > The " leela " is No longer just a " leela " ... > > > > The `impersonal' " All One Play " becomes somewhat ... `Personal', > Now ! > > > > > > Difference in human is that, > > we have made this THREAT, this " other " somewhat `automatic' > > and EVER PRESENT ! > > > > > > Every Morning, > > as soon as you get up, > > ...it might HIT you as an `ALARM' saying > > ... " get up or " YOU " might lose your job ! " > > > > ( Threat, Survival ) > > > > > > Or, as an Email, > > a News, the Media, the Newspaper ... > > > > and, throughout out the day this OTHER > > gets repeated, strengthened, cultivated, reinforced > > and maintained in `N' ways in various interactions ! > > > > ( " You " do this or this might happen ... > > > > " You " do this else " I " will " do " ... " this to YOU ! " > > > > " you " DO this by The, else ... ) > > > > > > This threat becomes an Ever Present, > > `All Encompassing' Reality ... > > > > > > Many even go to bed with the thoughts > > of this Other and threat and ... > > > > 'get' it even in Dreams ! > > > In Oneness there can be no real threat, only Oneness playing a game > of hide and seek. So my idea is that if we connect to Oneness, then > we are everything and totally indestructible. Where is " we " in ONENESS ? Simple babycakes, in order to say One, one would have had to be known as two? Right? I and Thou of One, ahh, the you and the me of This.... let's dance.... a. > > al. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > .... > > > > > > > Call it Oneness, > > > > call it Wholeness, > > > > > > > > ( None of them really describe it. ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, then, as soon as a threat is perceived, > > > > the " other " is felt and so is ...the " Me " ! > > > > > > .... > > > > > > ( I guess) > > > > > > That this process is SAME in animals too ! > > > > > > There is peace, > > > there is Silence, Oneness, Wholeness, Unity ... > > > > > > But, as soon as a threat in sight, > > > > > > As in " dog for a cat " , > > > " lion for a lamb " , > > > > > > This Unity is somewhat temporarily Broken ! > > > > > > > > > The " leela " is No longer just a " leela " ... > > > > > > The `impersonal' " All One Play " becomes somewhat ... `Personal', > > Now ! > > > > > > > > > Difference in human is that, > > > we have made this THREAT, this " other " somewhat `automatic' > > > and EVER PRESENT ! > > > > > > > > > Every Morning, > > > as soon as you get up, > > > ...it might HIT you as an `ALARM' saying > > > ... " get up or " YOU " might lose your job ! " > > > > > > ( Threat, Survival ) > > > > > > > > > Or, as an Email, > > > a News, the Media, the Newspaper ... > > > > > > and, throughout out the day this OTHER > > > gets repeated, strengthened, cultivated, reinforced > > > and maintained in `N' ways in various interactions ! > > > > > > ( " You " do this or this might happen ... > > > > > > " You " do this else " I " will " do " ... " this to YOU ! " > > > > > > " you " DO this by The, else ... ) > > > > > > > > > This threat becomes an Ever Present, > > > `All Encompassing' Reality ... > > > > > > > > > Many even go to bed with the thoughts > > > of this Other and threat and ... > > > > > > 'get' it even in Dreams ! > > > > > > In Oneness there can be no real threat, only Oneness playing a game > > of hide and seek. So my idea is that if we connect to Oneness, then > > we are everything and totally indestructible. > > Where is " we " in ONENESS ? > > > > > > al. The " we " is a part of the game Oneness plays with itself. There cannot be an _actual_ other, only the phenomenal chimera called duality can produce a seemingly separately existing other. There is no true duality in that things exist as separate 'this' and 'that'. There is always the Trinity of existence; something is always there to connect it all. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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