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Perceiving a threat, an attack,

immediately makes you aware of your boundaries,

of your limitation.

 

It contracts you,

it limits you,

it confines you.

 

 

It immediately gives you a sense of separateness,

....a sense of separate self,

a sense of separate " me " !

 

[....]

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

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> Perceiving a threat, an attack,

> immediately makes you aware of your boundaries,

> of your limitation.

>

> It contracts you,

> it limits you,

> it confines you.

 

It makes you aware of that which

needs protection.

 

It makes you aware of the which has

limits in space ...

 

that which has limits in existence.

 

It makes you aware of the Body !

 

..

....

......

 

And, Body Awareness is Pain !

 

Pain is Body Awareness !

 

And, as Buddha said, even what you call " pleasure " ... is a Pain !

 

 

Without it, the bodiless ...

the consciousness, the awareness has No sense of body.

 

......

 

A medium if felt only if BLOCKS !

 

A clear perfectly clear medium is NOT felt !

 

A body is felt only when something that it conducts,

passes, " acts as passage to " ...is Blocked !

 

>

>

> It immediately gives you a sense of separateness,

> ...a sense of separate self,

> a sense of separate " me " !

>

> [....]

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > Perceiving a threat, an attack,

> > immediately makes you aware of your boundaries,

> > of your limitation.

> >

> > It contracts you,

> > it limits you,

> > it confines you.

>

> It makes you aware of that which

> needs protection.

>

> It makes you aware of the which has

> limits in space ...

>

> that which has limits in existence.

>

> It makes you aware of the Body !

>

> .

> ...

> .....

>

> And, Body Awareness is Pain !

>

> Pain is Body Awareness !

>

> And, as Buddha said, even what you call " pleasure " ... is a Pain !

>

>

> Without it, the bodiless ...

> the consciousness, the awareness has No sense of body.

>

> .....

>

> A medium if felt only if BLOCKS !

>

> A clear perfectly clear medium is NOT felt !

>

> A body is felt only when something that it conducts,

> passes, " acts as passage to " ...is Blocked !

>

> >

> >

> > It immediately gives you a sense of separateness,

> > ...a sense of separate self,

> > a sense of separate " me " !

> >

> > [....]

 

 

I believe the pain in body and mind can be dissolved. Eckhart Tolle

calls it the " pain body " .

 

The pain body is a contraction, a sense of separation, a something the

mind believs needs protection, and the fear this creates sustains and

feeds the pain body, thereby reinforcing it.

 

When the pain body has been dissolved, then there is nothing left to

protect. Then there remains a lightness, peace and nice feeling in

body and mind, and the sense of a totally separate " me " is no longer

there. I guess. :)

 

al.

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming> wrote:

> Perceiving a threat, an attack,

> immediately makes you aware of your boundaries,

> of your limitation.

>

> It contracts you,

> it limits you,

> it confines you.

>

>

> It immediately gives you a sense of separateness,

> ...a sense of separate self,

> a sense of separate " me " !

>

> [....]

 

 

..

....

......

 

All of spirituality

can be essentially termed as the

process

of 'returning' to the state which NO

Other !

 

 

The state which is Prior to the rise

of " other " ,

 

....the state of ONENESS,

the state of Infinity,

the State of ... No Boundaries !

 

 

no " other " = no " me " !

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > Perceiving a threat, an attack,

> > immediately makes you aware of your boundaries,

> > of your limitation.

> >

> > It contracts you,

> > it limits you,

> > it confines you.

> >

> >

> > It immediately gives you a sense of separateness,

> > ...a sense of separate self,

> > a sense of separate " me " !

> >

> > [....]

>

>

> .

> ...

> .....

>

> All of spirituality

> can be essentially termed as the

> process

> of 'returning' to the state which NO

> Other !

>

>

> The state which is Prior to the rise

> of " other " ,

>

> ...the state of ONENESS,

> the state of Infinity,

> the State of ... No Boundaries !

>

>

> no " other " = no " me " !

 

......

....

..

 

In Meditation,

in samadhi,

In Deep Sleep,

 

....there is NO Other !

 

 

No other, no me ...

 

 

In enlightened state,

there is NO `other' -----

 

There is perception, there is Sight ...

there is diversity and colors,

 

the play, the leela, the game, the dream ...

the changing configuration,

the flowing river,

 

the wavy ocean ...

 

....but, there is NO Other !

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> > All of spirituality

> > can be essentially termed as the process

> > of `returning' to the state which NO Other !

> >

> >

> > The state which is Prior to the rise of " other " ,

> >

> > ...the state of ONENESS,

> > the state of Infinity,

> > the State of ... No Boundaries !

> >

> >

> > no " other " = no " me " !

>

> .....

> ...

> .

>

> In Meditation,

> in samadhi,

> In Deep Sleep,

>

> ...there is NO Other !

>

>

> No other, no me ...

>

>

> In enlightened state,

> there is NO `other' -----

>

> There is perception, there is Sight ...

> there is diversity and colors,

>

> the play, the leela, the game, the dream ...

> the changing configuration,

> the flowing river,

>

> the wavy ocean ...

>

> ...but, there is NO Other !

 

......

 

In Deep Sleep,

 

....there is NO Other ...

 

 

When you wake up,

....then, too there is No Other !

 

You might see a body ...

 

might sense...

 

might feel...

 

 

Senses are,

feelings are,

seeing is ...

 

But, " me " and " other " is NOT ...

 

 

Call it Oneness,

call it Wholeness,

 

( None of them really describe it. )

 

 

 

But, then, as soon as a threat is perceived,

the " other " is felt and so is ...the " Me " !

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