Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " fmraerdy " <mybox234@b...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > Moller, > > > > > > > > And the point of your book I believe > > > > <snipped> > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > > Hi, Judi: > > > > > > Are you like a realized master or something? You speak with such > > > authority. Are you " enlightened " ? > > > > > > > Hi, fuzzball: > > Are you really daft or something? You write with such imbecility. Are > > you " ignorant " ? > > > > (just funnin' witcha, fuzz...) > > > > But, to continue the funnin'... > > > > No one can BE enlightened, surrounded by quotation marks or > > otherwise, anymore than someone can BE non-enlightened, similarly > > surrounded or not. > > > > People discuss these " favorite " terms, in the same exact way and for > > the same exact reason, other people discuss their " favorite " sports > > team players - because it's fun to talk about stuff, especially out > > loud (and on paper, or email qualifies as being " out loud " ). It - the > > mechanical act of - releases pleasurable chemicals and neuropeptides > > that circulate in the brain, that we educated humans can call, " fun " > > and others know what we mean. > > > > (Everybody knows what " fun " means and can communicate an episode of > > fun to another human, with ease. Conversely, NO ONE knows what > > " enlightenment " means nor can communicate an episode to another > > human... though many still (unbelievably) believe otherwise, which is > > why so many still waste oodles of time on these email lists, wasting > > more time trying to do it...) > > > > Caustic-to-a-fault (JR) may be having fun talking through her hat > > about " you name it " , in the same way Thin-Veneer (SVP) does, and > > countless others do, but to suggest she/he/anybody IS what > > she/he/anybody might claim to be, is just silly. > > She isn't, you isn't, it isn't. > > > > No one can BE a word, and words are all there is going on here, in > > print, in email. Words in print, black dots stimulating transient > > neural episodes in your own head as you hear/read them, that you can > > neither control, predict, or comprehend, are more like mist, vapor, > > clouds, than anything substantial, like people. They just happen, and > > when they do - on their own schedule - you have fun... or you don't > > (like when somebody, say, screams curse words at you and calls you > > stupid, ugly, and worthless). > > > > A better question to ask somebody - and then listen carefully to what > > they reply, if at all - is, WHY do you talk about these words, as if > > they are real, as if anybody who has at least half a functioning > > cortical intellect gives a goddamn about it? > > > > Ask JR, or SVP, and then watch 'em squirm, shuffle their feet, hum > > and haw, and >>change the subject<<. > > > I'm dumber'n a rock, Kid. I aint got sense enough to come in outta the > rain. I just thought Big Mama Judi was fully enlightened, like me. I > am totally enlightened. Have been goin' on a couple a months, now. > Aint nothin' to it. It's totally awesome. > > > > fuzzie > > P.S. I know, I know... everybody's rappin' aint nobody enlightened, > and, that's true, to an extent. But, you gotta be enlightened to be > able to tell there aint nobody enlightened, otherwise, you wouldn't > know that, you dig what I'm sayin'? >================ I agree fuzzie I have always been enlightened only my mind was telling me otherwise. Enlightenment is a thought, the mind. Now that my mind does not tell me I'm not enoightened I AM just a JOY of being the Nothing, Silence, that my mind will never understand because it, this Silence, is not a thought. -- thoughts from nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Nisargadatta , " Gene Polotas " <semmin@e...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fmraerdy " <mybox234@b...> > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " > <fuzzie_wuz> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " > <judirhodes@c...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Moller, > > > > > > > > > > And the point of your book I believe > > > > > <snipped> > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Judi: > > > > > > > > Are you like a realized master or something? You speak with such > > > > authority. Are you " enlightened " ? > > > > > > > > > > Hi, fuzzball: > > > Are you really daft or something? You write with such imbecility. > Are > > > you " ignorant " ? > > > > > > (just funnin' witcha, fuzz...) > > > > > > But, to continue the funnin'... > > > > > > No one can BE enlightened, surrounded by quotation marks or > > > otherwise, anymore than someone can BE non-enlightened, similarly > > > surrounded or not. > > > > > > People discuss these " favorite " terms, in the same exact way and > for > > > the same exact reason, other people discuss their " favorite " > sports > > > team players - because it's fun to talk about stuff, especially > out > > > loud (and on paper, or email qualifies as being " out loud " ). It - > the > > > mechanical act of - releases pleasurable chemicals and > neuropeptides > > > that circulate in the brain, that we educated humans can > call, " fun " > > > and others know what we mean. > > > > > > (Everybody knows what " fun " means and can communicate an episode > of > > > fun to another human, with ease. Conversely, NO ONE knows what > > > " enlightenment " means nor can communicate an episode to another > > > human... though many still (unbelievably) believe otherwise, > which is > > > why so many still waste oodles of time on these email lists, > wasting > > > more time trying to do it...) > > > > > > Caustic-to-a-fault (JR) may be having fun talking through her hat > > > about " you name it " , in the same way Thin-Veneer (SVP) does, and > > > countless others do, but to suggest she/he/anybody IS what > > > she/he/anybody might claim to be, is just silly. > > > She isn't, you isn't, it isn't. > > > > > > No one can BE a word, and words are all there is going on here, in > > > print, in email. Words in print, black dots stimulating transient > > > neural episodes in your own head as you hear/read them, that you > can > > > neither control, predict, or comprehend, are more like mist, > vapor, > > > clouds, than anything substantial, like people. They just happen, > and > > > when they do - on their own schedule - you have fun... or you > don't > > > (like when somebody, say, screams curse words at you and calls you > > > stupid, ugly, and worthless). > > > > > > A better question to ask somebody - and then listen carefully to > what > > > they reply, if at all - is, WHY do you talk about these words, as > if > > > they are real, as if anybody who has at least half a functioning > > > cortical intellect gives a goddamn about it? > > > > > > Ask JR, or SVP, and then watch 'em squirm, shuffle their feet, hum > > > and haw, and >>change the subject<<. > > > > > > I'm dumber'n a rock, Kid. I aint got sense enough to come in outta > the > > rain. I just thought Big Mama Judi was fully enlightened, like me. I > > am totally enlightened. Have been goin' on a couple a months, now. > > Aint nothin' to it. It's totally awesome. > > > > > > > > fuzzie > > > > P.S. I know, I know... everybody's rappin' aint nobody enlightened, > > and, that's true, to an extent. But, you gotta be enlightened to be > > able to tell there aint nobody enlightened, otherwise, you wouldn't > > know that, you dig what I'm sayin'? > >================ > I agree fuzzie > > I have always been enlightened only my mind was telling me otherwise. > Enlightenment is a thought, the mind. > > Now that my mind does not tell me I'm not enoightened I AM just a > JOY of being the Nothing, Silence, that my mind will never > understand because it, this Silence, is not a thought. > > -- thoughts from nothing You're lucky. At least, you still got a mind. I lost mine. It got lost when I went into samadhi and merged with pure awareness, undifferentiated. The mind split and all it left me was alone. But, I'm none the worser for it. Who needs it? That's what I say... fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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