Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...> > wrote: > > > ************** > > ************* > > From another list... > > > > > The eastern traditions are primarily a form of psychosis, > a " split " > > > between consciousness and form, which it appears here Maria is > caught > > > up in, and unfortunatley keeps the seeker bound to a path of > > > experience, " up and out " , which is merely a form and > demonstration of > > > schitzofrenia, your typical yogi. Whereas understanding, is > > > the " direct path " you could say, bypasses all such neurosis and > > > psychotic demonstrations. > > > > > > Judi > > > > ******** > > And what's funny about it, is that you have all these people > trying to > > emulate psychotics. LOL > > > > Judi > > > > sam: what's the difference between the eastern yogi/guru traditions > and the western sect preacher traditions. It's all the same thing, > the same motive they just have different rituals and myths.>> Turned off by the hypocrisy and bullshit that I found within the Christian, esp. Catholic religion, I sought the " true spirituality " of the Eastern Way, esp. the Bhakti path. Duh!!! Same old bullshit and hypocrisy. Hypocrisy and bullshit seem to be more a part of the " human condition " itself, rather than simply an aspect of either East or West. It's still ultimately about power and control and heirarchies and social/spiritual stratification. Oh yes, and sex and money. Name and fame. Lust and gold. Baba Garyduh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Wonderfully said, Gary And the rest of it gets kicked by Judi. Werner Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " > <judirhodes@c...> > > wrote: > > > > ************** > > > ************* > > > From another list... > > > > > > > The eastern traditions are primarily a form of psychosis, > > a " split " > > > > between consciousness and form, which it appears here Maria is > > caught > > > > up in, and unfortunatley keeps the seeker bound to a path of > > > > experience, " up and out " , which is merely a form and > > demonstration of > > > > schitzofrenia, your typical yogi. Whereas understanding, is > > > > the " direct path " you could say, bypasses all such neurosis and > > > > psychotic demonstrations. > > > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > ******** > > > And what's funny about it, is that you have all these people > > trying to > > > emulate psychotics. LOL > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > sam: what's the difference between the eastern yogi/guru > traditions > > and the western sect preacher traditions. It's all the same thing, > > the same motive they just have different rituals and myths.>> > > Turned off by the hypocrisy and bullshit that I found within the > Christian, esp. Catholic religion, I sought the " true spirituality " > of the Eastern Way, esp. the Bhakti path. > > Duh!!! Same old bullshit and hypocrisy. Hypocrisy and bullshit seem > to be more a part of the " human condition " itself, rather than simply > an aspect of either East or West. > > It's still ultimately about power and control and heirarchies and > social/spiritual stratification. Oh yes, and sex and money. > > Name and fame. Lust and gold. > > > Baba Garyduh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 so, where are we now, boys? left to our own defenses, eh? hypocrisy and bullshit via east/west/religious/spiritual/teaching/learning is a mere reflection of Self in its hyprocrisy and bullshit. (Hi Judy!!!) Seeing that perhaps is something " new under the sun " . Self in ALL ITS GLORY. And as I have heard it sung: Love-is-a-many-splendid-thing. It allows All To Be As It Is, As It Was, As It Alway Will Be... Hey, would you rather have Boring? Sitting on the right hand of God, listening to angels sing, floating....not my idea...or some kind of no-thing samadhi...(what exactly could THAT Be) a. p.s. there is only one possible heirarchy and that 'happens' in the Self, all other 'heirarchies' arise from.... .. - Werner Woehr Nisargadatta Monday, May 09, 2005 7:00 AM Re: East vs. West Wonderfully said, Gary And the rest of it gets kicked by Judi. Werner Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " > <judirhodes@c...> > > wrote: > > > > ************** > > > ************* > > > From another list... > > > > > > > The eastern traditions are primarily a form of psychosis, > > a " split " > > > > between consciousness and form, which it appears here Maria is > > caught > > > > up in, and unfortunatley keeps the seeker bound to a path of > > > > experience, " up and out " , which is merely a form and > > demonstration of > > > > schitzofrenia, your typical yogi. Whereas understanding, is > > > > the " direct path " you could say, bypasses all such neurosis and > > > > psychotic demonstrations. > > > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > ******** > > > And what's funny about it, is that you have all these people > > trying to > > > emulate psychotics. LOL > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > sam: what's the difference between the eastern yogi/guru > traditions > > and the western sect preacher traditions. It's all the same thing, > > the same motive they just have different rituals and myths.>> > > Turned off by the hypocrisy and bullshit that I found within the > Christian, esp. Catholic religion, I sought the " true spirituality " > of the Eastern Way, esp. the Bhakti path. > > Duh!!! Same old bullshit and hypocrisy. Hypocrisy and bullshit seem > to be more a part of the " human condition " itself, rather than simply > an aspect of either East or West. > > It's still ultimately about power and control and heirarchies and > social/spiritual stratification. Oh yes, and sex and money. > > Name and fame. Lust and gold. > > > Baba Garyduh! ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Forgive me Anna, But the proper spelling is: Hierarchy. Werner Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > so, where are we now, boys? > left to our own defenses, eh? > > hypocrisy and bullshit via east/west/religious/spiritual/teaching/learning is a mere reflection of Self in its hyprocrisy and bullshit. (Hi Judy!!!) > > Seeing that perhaps is something " new under the sun " . > > Self in ALL ITS GLORY. > > And as I have heard it sung: Love-is-a-many-splendid-thing. It allows All To Be As It Is, As It Was, As It Alway Will Be... > > Hey, would you rather have Boring? > Sitting on the right hand of God, listening to angels sing, floating....not my idea...or some kind of no-thing samadhi...(what exactly could THAT Be) > > a. > > p.s. there is only one possible heirarchy and that 'happens' in the Self, all other 'heirarchies' arise from.... > > . > - > Werner Woehr > Nisargadatta > Monday, May 09, 2005 7:00 AM > Re: East vs. West > > > Wonderfully said, Gary > > And the rest of it gets kicked by Judi. > > Werner > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " > > <judirhodes@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > > ************** > > > > ************* > > > > From another list... > > > > > > > > > The eastern traditions are primarily a form of psychosis, > > > a " split " > > > > > between consciousness and form, which it appears here Maria > is > > > caught > > > > > up in, and unfortunatley keeps the seeker bound to a path of > > > > > experience, " up and out " , which is merely a form and > > > demonstration of > > > > > schitzofrenia, your typical yogi. Whereas understanding, is > > > > > the " direct path " you could say, bypasses all such neurosis > and > > > > > psychotic demonstrations. > > > > > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > ******** > > > > And what's funny about it, is that you have all these people > > > trying to > > > > emulate psychotics. LOL > > > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > > > > > sam: what's the difference between the eastern yogi/guru > > traditions > > > and the western sect preacher traditions. It's all the same > thing, > > > the same motive they just have different rituals and myths.>> > > > > Turned off by the hypocrisy and bullshit that I found within the > > Christian, esp. Catholic religion, I sought the " true spirituality " > > of the Eastern Way, esp. the Bhakti path. > > > > Duh!!! Same old bullshit and hypocrisy. Hypocrisy and bullshit > seem > > to be more a part of the " human condition " itself, rather than > simply > > an aspect of either East or West. > > > > It's still ultimately about power and control and heirarchies and > > social/spiritual stratification. Oh yes, and sex and money. > > > > Name and fame. Lust and gold. > > > > > > Baba Garyduh! > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > -- ---------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 hey i make mistakes you know, i once spelled divine wrong.twice... a. - Werner Woehr Nisargadatta Monday, May 09, 2005 7:47 AM Re: East vs. West Forgive me Anna, But the proper spelling is: Hierarchy. Werner Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > so, where are we now, boys? > left to our own defenses, eh? > > hypocrisy and bullshit via east/west/religious/spiritual/teaching/learning is a mere reflection of Self in its hyprocrisy and bullshit. (Hi Judy!!!) > > Seeing that perhaps is something " new under the sun " . > > Self in ALL ITS GLORY. > > And as I have heard it sung: Love-is-a-many-splendid-thing. It allows All To Be As It Is, As It Was, As It Alway Will Be... > > Hey, would you rather have Boring? > Sitting on the right hand of God, listening to angels sing, floating....not my idea...or some kind of no-thing samadhi...(what exactly could THAT Be) > > a. > > p.s. there is only one possible heirarchy and that 'happens' in the Self, all other 'heirarchies' arise from.... > > . > - > Werner Woehr > Nisargadatta > Monday, May 09, 2005 7:00 AM > Re: East vs. West > > > Wonderfully said, Gary > > And the rest of it gets kicked by Judi. > > Werner > > Nisargadatta , " garyfalk1943 " <falkgw@h...> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " sam_t_7 " <sam_t_7> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " > > <judirhodes@c...> > > > wrote: > > > > > ************** > > > > ************* > > > > From another list... > > > > > > > > > The eastern traditions are primarily a form of psychosis, > > > a " split " > > > > > between consciousness and form, which it appears here Maria > is > > > caught > > > > > up in, and unfortunatley keeps the seeker bound to a path of > > > > > experience, " up and out " , which is merely a form and > > > demonstration of > > > > > schitzofrenia, your typical yogi. Whereas understanding, is > > > > > the " direct path " you could say, bypasses all such neurosis > and > > > > > psychotic demonstrations. > > > > > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > ******** > > > > And what's funny about it, is that you have all these people > > > trying to > > > > emulate psychotics. LOL > > > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > > > > > sam: what's the difference between the eastern yogi/guru > > traditions > > > and the western sect preacher traditions. It's all the same > thing, > > > the same motive they just have different rituals and myths.>> > > > > Turned off by the hypocrisy and bullshit that I found within the > > Christian, esp. Catholic religion, I sought the " true spirituality " > > of the Eastern Way, esp. the Bhakti path. > > > > Duh!!! Same old bullshit and hypocrisy. Hypocrisy and bullshit > seem > > to be more a part of the " human condition " itself, rather than > simply > > an aspect of either East or West. > > > > It's still ultimately about power and control and heirarchies and > > social/spiritual stratification. Oh yes, and sex and money. > > > > Name and fame. Lust and gold. > > > > > > Baba Garyduh! > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > -- ---------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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